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PerfectlyFlawed says

Again - just wondering what the correlation is to people who actually believe Ukraine is the just/victim party (and/or even 'winning' the battle) in this conflict to those who actually believed the covid/forced vax hysteria as presented by the MSM over the last 2 years.

On this board the correlation should be about 0. I say that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone on this board who's vocally pro-Ukraine AND fell for the hysteria.

You are welcome.

I seemed to have found at least one!

who?

PerfectlyFlawed says

Again - just wondering what the correlation is to people who actually believe Ukraine is the just/victim party (and/or even 'winning' the battle) in this conflict to those who actually believed the covid/forced vax hysteria as presented by the MSM over the last 2 years.

I'd venture to guess that those who believed in the covaid cooties and the need for forced vaxxing as presented by the MSM also believe that Russia is some sort of unwarranted aggressor (and/or losing the battle) in this situation, again - as our MSM et.al. is presenting.

All the data is at your fingertips. There aren't that many users and the site is elegantly simple. So instead of wondering aloud you could do little digging and find out. Even automate your research if you have the skillz. Then enlighten the rest of us about the correlation or lack of thereof.

Ahh The Times! Same news agency who on March 1st posted a picture of a Ukraine armored vehicle burning, and claimed it was Russian(see their corrections). The times owned by News UK, a subsidiary of News Corp, and who might their primary owner be but one Rupert Murdoch. I wonder what old Rupert's publications thought about Covid? Ohh, but I'm sure they got it right this time in Eastern Europe, and Murdoch is definitely NOT a globalist, heading a barrage of propaganda networks he tricks people into believing unbiased news publications.

Have we learned nothing from the past two years..?

richwicks says

This is why all data that is put out there, should be signed with a digital signature. For example:

64f555ae7a93faae295b93e61426a8d1a078417ffaa057b6502de6de7b1ad3bd

Only I can produce that. That's just a simple digital signature. That cannot be faked.

Can it be copied?

Alexander Khrebet/Олександр Хребет@AlexKhrebet·13m

⚡⚡⚡ Russian major-general killed in action near Kharkiv. Vitaly Gerasimov, a chief of staff and first deputy commander of the 41st Army of Russia's Central Military District, Ukraine's intelligence intercepted talks.

WineHorror1 says

richwicks says

This is why all data that is put out there, should be signed with a digital signature. For example:

64f555ae7a93faae295b93e61426a8d1a078417ffaa057b6502de6de7b1ad3bd

Only I can produce that. That's just a simple digital signature. That cannot be faked.

Can it be copied?

Sure, it can be copied.

The point of a digital signature is that

1) it can be verified
2) it can ONLY be produced by the signer.

You can copy the message, but if you modified it in any way, the digital signature won't match when it's verified.

Hmm. I think I just had a bidness idea..

Another one bites the dust:

Commander of the 29th Army of the Eastern Military District (VVO), Major General Andrey Kolesnikov

Another one bites the dust:

Commander of the 29th Army of the Eastern Military District (VVO), Major General Andrey Kolesnikov

Some are dying in Ukraine, and soon others will be executed, jailed, or exiled back in mother Russia as Putin becomes further enraged by the clusterfuck of failure.

It’s a tragedy but almost comical to observe the complete stupidity of Putin.

To immobilize trucks and tanks requires just fucking them up, tires burn from Molotov cocktails, tank treads can be shot at, missiles of course are a “final solution.”

Some guys shooting.50 cal Barrett rifles from afar can immobilize vehicles from anywhere.
(In Florida you can buy one!)

Hundreds of tanks were destroyed and it’s still early in the war.

It’s ironic that Putin said the invasion was to protect Russia from a second invasion by “Nazis”, yet he is making the same mistake Hitler did trying to conquer Stalingrad.

clambo says

Hundreds of tanks were destroyed and it’s still early in the war.

Allegedly, by the same Media that said wearing a Mask was absolute science and essential to stopping COVID. And that CRT was only taught in law school, not taught in K12, before finally insisting it was vital to teach to K-12.

We know for a FACT that Fauci funded the Wuhan Labs. We now know FOR A FACT that Obama and Lugar funded Biolabs in Ukraine, and apparently (this needs verification) those Ukrainian labs got US Dept of Defense money.

Exactly. Any report that comes out of the corporate media is good evidence that it is not true.

The corporate media has become a negative indicator of truth.

The Russians used to say "There is no truth in Pravda." The joke being that the word "pravda" means "truth".

They were fragged by the conscripts.

I’m willing to believe that many tanks and other vehicles were destroyed.

I’m not watching the alphabet news.

Guys here who want to call me a fool, go ahead, flame away.

I have seen a little bit of the Soviet Union and the place would make a good three stooges episode.

They are “invincible” fighting civilians, except today evidently not even that.

Patrick says

The Russians used to say "There is no truth in Pravda." The joke being that the word "pravda" means "truth".

There is no news in Izvestia either.

Izvestia is Russian for news.

You know, I have to admit I'm a bit happy that our news media is finally recognized for what it really is - propaganda. I've been wishing for this day for decades when the AVERAGE person can say "I don't trust the mainstream media" and not be called a nutcase for saying it.

Using geolocation to find a Russian General:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBFdPNZzpwg&source=patrick.net

In the midst of all this glorious Ukrainian Nazi resistance and killing of the faltering Russians, the Russians have essentially circled 40,000 Ukrainian troops in Eastern Ukraine in one of their 'cauldron' movements. Once these troops are boiled in the 'causdron' and secured either through destruction or surrender, the faltering, failing, defeated Russians will have less resistance all the way to Kiev. They will falter and stagger until the Globalist pawns meet their conditions.

Someone is eating pot laced gummy bears

Somehow, we get all these reports of fallen Russian commanders, but nothing about fallen Ukrainian commanders.

Which side has people fleeing again?

Putin doesn't want to enter Kiev in force if he can avoid it.

Zelensky wants him to enter Kiev so the US media has lots of pictures of war, dead civilians, and glorious (but ultimately futile) resistance fighters.

But it's pretty much over.

China, India, and Brazil have no intention of sanctioning Putin. Nor will they no matter how much the Western Media waves the bloody shirt (We can't control every flying brick or rubble and deflect it away from civilians and neither can the Russians; the difference is the 2003 Media didn't run civilian collateral damage video much at all).

AmericanKulak says

Putin doesn't want to enter Kiev in force if he can avoid it.

Why should he have to? If his goal is (as stated) to demilitarize Ukraine, kill off the Nazi brigades (not in Kiev), secure/destroy the biological warfare labs, and secure independence for the breakaway republics of Donbas and the other one, this is a good strategy. He’s keeping the Ukraine resistance penned up in Kiev while he has unfettered access to the rest of the country. He only has to take Kiev if he wants regime change. In the meantime he can keep their airport in rubble and just besiege the city until they cry uncle.

I also suspect it's pretty much over, and that Russia will keep the breakaway republics, maybe letting them be nominally independent.

I noticed that the price of gold ticked down.



Of course I could be wrong. I didn't think he'd really invade to begin with.

Gold bugs can't catch a break.

Shaman says

Why should he have to? If his goal is (as stated) to demilitarize Ukraine, kill off the Nazi brigades (not in Kiev), secure/destroy the biological warfare labs, and secure independence for the breakaway republics of Donbas and the other one, this is a good strategy. He’s keeping the Ukraine resistance penned up in Kiev while he has unfettered access to the rest of the country. He only has to take Kiev if he wants regime change. In the meantime he can keep their airport in rubble and just besiege the city until they cry uncle.

Yep, I think he's got the regime bottled up in Kiev, the Donetsk/Luhansk Siege + (Maybe an extra chunk of the real UA transferred East expecting the attack from there), it's a waiting game.

Have to catch up on the news and maps today though.

Another colonel goes to hell:

Deputy Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Captain First Rank Andrey Paliy has joined his friends in hell.

Colonel Sukharev. A used-to-be commander of 331 VDV regiment from Kostroma.

This is an honorable mention. Highlighting a colonel in a thread which mostly mentions generals. He is the cocksucker who in 2014 guaranteed the safe passage of unarmed Ukrainian troops surrounded by Illovaisk, and then used artillery to kill them off during the passage.

Welcome to hell, comrade.

mostly reader says

Colonel Sukharev. A used-to-be commander of 331 VDV regiment from Kostroma.

This is an honorable mention. Highlighting a colonel in a thread which mostly mentions generals. He is the cocksucker who in 2014 guaranteed the safe passage of unarmed Ukrainian troops surrounded by Illovaisk, and then used artillery to kill them off during the passage.

Welcome to hell, comrade.

Rest in pieces!

Commander of the Airborne Assault Brigade #171 (Feodosia), Lieutenant Colonel Sharshavov Aleksey Vasilyevich has joined his comrades in the boiling tar pits of hell:






https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1505993173621002244?source=patrick.net

Some Putin fanboys are disappointed. Boo hoo.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EerikNKross/status/1508890508046835721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&source=patrick.net


PS. Ilovaysk is the infamous episode of the early stages of this war (Aug 2014) when regular Russian troops (which, of course, were "not there") promised a "green corridor" to the encircled Ukrainians and then shot them up once they started moving out through the agreed route. The fuck in the pucture us the guy who gave them "the word if a Russian officer" they won't be shot at.

(google translate)

In St. Petersburg on April 16, they said goodbye to the deputy commander of the 8th Army, Major General Vladimir Petrovich Frolov. His funeral was held at the Serafimovsky cemetery with military honors, the ceremony was attended by Governor Alexander Beglov. This was reported by the press service of the administration of St. Petersburg.

According to the governor, Vladimir Frolov "fell the death of the brave" in battles with the Ukrainian enemy.

https://www.fontanka.ru/2022/04/16/71262053/?source=patrick.net

richwicks says

WineHorror1 says

richwicks says

This is why all data that is put out there, should be signed with a digital signature. For example:

64f555ae7a93faae295b93e61426a8d1a078417ffaa057b6502de6de7b1ad3bd

Only I can produce that. That's just a simple digital signature. That cannot be faked.

Can it be copied?

Sure, it can be copied.

The point of a digital signature is that

1) it can be verified
2) it can ONLY be produced by the signer.

You can copy the message, but if you modified it in any way, the digital signature won't match when it's verified.

Hmm. I think I just had a bidness idea..

@richwicks. Anything digital can be manipulated. There's a reason for witnesses, wet ink signatures and Notaries.

WineHorror1 says

@richwicks. Anything digital can be manipulated. There's a reason for witnesses, wet ink signatures and Notaries.

You have it backwards. Anything physical can be faked, but a digital signature can't be.

The dead sea scrolls, ALL OF THEM, are likely to be forgeries. Now if sha2 has a weakness and is actually cracked, only then can you forge a digital signature.

richwicks says

WineHorror1 says

@richwicks. Anything digital can be manipulated. There's a reason for witnesses, wet ink signatures and Notaries.

You have it backwards. Anything physical can be faked, but a digital signature can't be.

The dead sea scrolls, ALL OF THEM, are likely to be forgeries. Now if sha2 has a weakness and is actually cracked, only then can you forge a digital signature.

Riddle me this...if I am not the one who signs the digital signature, how can I be held liable? If no one witnesses me signing it, did I sign it? Every time I sign digitally, I make an illegible scribble. Is that mine?

WineHorror1 says

Riddle me this...if I am not the one who signs the digital signature, how can I be held liable? If no one witnesses me signing it, did I sign it? Every time I sign digitally, I make an illegible scribble. Is that mine?

They key of the digital signature is yours alone. If it's compromised, i.e. duplicated by somebody, the key can be copied repeatedly. It's a key, and I've had to deal with keys with HIGH SECURITY, where getting access to it is a complete hassle - meaning I never got access to it - I would send a program to a 3rd party, that would send it one to another person who would copy the program, go into a VAULT, and then sign the program with a digital signature then return the signed program to me.

Using a digital signature requires HIGH VIGILANCE in protecting the key.

Witnesses can lie.

Digital signatures work in that you can make the signature, and other people can verify it without the key. They can see you signed it, and the only way to sign it, is with your key. If your key is compromised all bets are off. You need to protect a digital key. I have tons of them. Here's my public key for my computer:

ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAAHwQGQdgE5/gPJx2/TmD+4lVrBi3oD3B9Tr5dPrgHyRlEG2uOi+tDXYkrrYKvpi6VEmCWL0aSISQ9iH9x98VzVCk/ztaFO6eBrnhyqIY2RmA0BJxQ4XoI5XJ1vhai5LjK2m0LFqQnPs3Y8i1Kn/gVj2QD7a7wFsRmqHoZ9yul7cz2khgOJ0zCvC4iRUwKNgtiOllFLS4OPnQ3V5jgM6EJLLOb4clUO6m6MKWXGZJtGeOUughUgIUoaLPWzJxa1iglojB9wZo+c8Hk16SxoxDlluuwFPrkzESDFVIfRVr8V07QLKQ3Y+FCTL9NxswwGozM0A0tk43ZBAFwgAZ5LZyZrlMdZxZHBCGvuDIbAf79NRblf2irwm5OU3ynyccICi3tlptUS4cF8MrOeBT+2pLyWkfZyaKTwIjmnyk8eWmqspeTzFjJp7p4fmE5jOB2sxfJ701Ld0sSoN8b3e0tFzjtADhbTy0VfKhTnN7yMViAJtx+bLNvQPUEV1BCi02gBqZPWAYNf+ywJr6j2UfGhHGMAqUsilamOv06D2bt7/MbnjMYK23v7nitw7rAmpJ2ujEuSiJCaHxr8W5uAyv0uLGF80xW9Q1Qo6vVeUs4EjVnoETWO9tbf/6jjFp2ef+WV0mm14M3NHTrN5/6HzpN/wjgEkAmOsskMax8BbsAhctnOqD7VqBdk4W4AIGu+BUWT84a0199a92fdZU2UDfB8t22QuryQeW1Fen/MBgenBGQZK/ra51eHNlmcOnvck19UDxjmGB1vdCA/gqYbM6ogglHNySrB17hIAQaJOJ1JF1x7RJKkJr1mnbQzizdPxafME7Ptvf8tmw0UxQA7dIYvk6zmNjaSmwT6E6e3pscpnGz1gMmI5IwQkXDyvYREs1davw1nwzml/xT+QqwHPvwyok33cAilfwk2Y/VkNJ9FTN2GogdeAzPF+MvtslWgXjhx2qcL7zHax+Q97y4qQd+WGweWm7PldYd+9GJcxUbLGk2ZqsRf33jlX+m3qUoFwUzEeR4m99stkEvk5tXopT7jsvkmLA9+VVEI+7IYjHKWjy01nsjrdB6Obtg7tvncNcHbgRZimuaNDxOgaCS/Qn0WZevVl/06IpoGYUuptjq+u0tZCUgrilXwrp9tPObKH20hDIZ7IUzNHbGcc5H6dAmRzAg0U9YUW7irixZReGRMCsNWQYCmfEoYFXRRLdPAIjjvKyfu3D+DWh3ZeSiPt63tjuqxrj/SO1hku3wjR5/1sGCBJS7OcTsemK8d1sJQ11miVO3J30Z6Sq6MdAV34v/RO4pHwAP75HA6xmjdx6nAK9BYveeFKY3RZ2t+NjkjVtO2jwmk211VYhwgsc8DAPNa2hmfuFBnQdRwmXRExX+BcuvspSiD3KoC+4HdcQ0lqHdEezGQvAeZQBi52gaeUppcMgQI2liYLBI3YzoMWaL/zz634Mg61epQn4R4CnwgOj4LO+aolpAYqjvbX2mGRRVLs8NiXfdDmG6Nyb095FnJNDYzBlBUcdNYbauW1vy+rEd3DC8TtAgFR5JUk9IEfnXAn4s7lCr7aUfW16U/ggdcH6/Lhzk9FDHZFEXwuehbbi8M8+bvZk+VB/cqhCLw8mUI1UFnbETIwLgQAcouKSPh7X2vy1YAs4Aaxv8X+/o1XTaZA++rbx00rpkyXJ5jv3Cs4u1Rc2Q09tv9fKwovyQEcWRR1kyAFeBHwDATwEvVz5gURWJ9zptay0fFvQOF6/yP/sgyN1Cy+kyEVnHKA7mjXUu4h2/tnH0A8JlAPHoTXuVsMjuvllJ95CLVGsd5tdO/v/+7e10bwzxPUtT5I6vjgQFzJ/7EaHCpgEwPZ7zAXMqOIPsslagvkkSci6hHKBf6BOy7K4HxtaYbGC0B3EZ6sKsFKJofN97stQ/zTHLyPi5zoGaIpdsLlyZw5c2J9xYu/jYSqYBzkKbj/oJ8TONs6L5fyrNSFTPK7D60uN9vcNoRJ1PRv5OvoEmkmPHEjIoJuuWFESlQqjJh9MkWOGeXuLpCtgH+EhBmvcjq2UsDCtkgmrqR466qQ73gWN6uxIYxQFYltGLcoJ0xHV1WCJSbk2QCuv8owkj5twDeZS26ZVfJ3d7gQHsUYoVWi8qNtQwvTcskS30aYblJjWp5cn3pYEf7RWErDQXeTnDS9voQtd9KV8tueMKNsEOeOs1ZnHTEQ3SD11UV28oKgcggMZpMl2f4GCJAuIV2ptNjZiX4E7OYkJwH0Kun7J1aOMgXOIpXYfidu8qjZaVnXfxzpSvcMMVqOR8AP3IiEheAtWk7PfVIBPb+qPZ7XpB0x9oKAWBrTPGGS7da72LJC1FOp0B7JT+jYGRL/Yoq+ztO78ZSUTFL3YZtfW/lW3ve1P6mowB6oNhLfGkGMu7WivxNq0StJIkJSG+i+1gBS8uNrasJ2LjZjh1QmRhaM6XXJOW5servwFe2fQrTJy0FtaDASNykYn80iWWei5K0TUNlxMfK/enqRapTXmbdMFVkWNtvfdHfFMQ1FMlfE9KsI/kjhbsg717o3tY4+9A0asnXF2qMchzluLZUFav1BapDEBqjW7L9WdOsKtMHYrLMVdRiA48GX3P7R6l7xKDfHrWjmDvpc/xnUPz8P8VgGG5zPaxVjXyaELo2BQAF username@my-machine

If you have a Unix machine, if you place that text in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys - I can log into your machine. If I make a digital signature with my PRIVATE key you can use the key above to VERIFY digital signatures that I create with my PRIVATE key (which isn't shown obviously), but you can't use the public key to forge a signature.

And let me rant a little bit. There's no reason that ALL PROGRAMS on a computer aren't digitally signed to allow you to identify who created the executable. By limiting which publishers can run programs on your machine, you can entirely eliminate viruses. There is literally no reason that viruses can even exist today.

But they still exist, because somebody wants to allow them to exist.

richwicks says

WineHorror1 says

Riddle me this...if I am not the one who signs the digital signature, how can I be held liable? If no one witnesses me signing it, did I sign it? Every time I sign digitally, I make an illegible scribble. Is that mine?

They key of the digital signature is yours alone. If it's compromised, i.e. duplicated by somebody, the key can be copied repeatedly. It's a key, and I've had to deal with keys with HIGH SECURITY, where getting access to it is a complete hassle - meaning I never got access to it - I would send a program to a 3rd party, that would send it one to another person who would copy the program, go into a VAULT, and then sign the program with a digital signature then return the signed program to me.

Using a digital signature requires HIGH VIGILANCE in protecting the key.

Witnesses can lie.

Digital signatures work in that you can make the signature, ...

I have no doubt you know more about this than I do. I do not even work in any IT field or close to it. However, I am more than sure that ANYTHING is hackable and in a court of law there could be NO proof beyond a doubt that it was YOU that signed that digital signature. This imo is where the wheels come off the clown car. Physical will always be superior to virtual. Those pushing us toward a virtual existence 1) profit from it and 2) think they are superior.