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Sounds like western MSM propaganda.

PerfectlyFlawed says

Sounds like western MSM propaganda.

So the guy is still alive and his friend, who announced his funeral on social media, is lying? Even though it's punisheable by 15 years in prison to spread "false information about military operstions".

This childish contrarianism is reaching comical levels.

Propaganda. Alexander Mercouris points out the ways Russian military strategy differs from the West. The propaganda makes it seems the Russians are failing because they don't use the 'shock and awe, absolute surrender and destruction of fucking everything and everybody' tactics of the US.

The Russians surround in what they call a 'cauldron' and turn up the heat on the surrounded areas, while continuing to negotiate. Western observers think that negotiation means they are failing and weak, whereas it is simply their method of waging war. They offer the 'humanitarian corridors' because these also allow soldiers to drop their arms and leave, Eventually, the areas are occupied mostly by combatants and not human shields, and of course they gain intelligence from the surrendered soldiers for whatever incursion they make later.

Russians are also pointedly vindictive. They will identify and hunt down opposition parties, terrorists, and murderers relentlessly until they have gotten revenge.

I don’t know what is propaganda but the satellite images of the 30 mile line of Russian vehicles and tanks sitting still tell me that they are not succeeding.

So the Russian “deadskis” families get paid worthless rubles to use to buy gasoline since everything else is imported, pretty good deal for the soldiers’ families.

Russia is not a good place to live; if you doubt it, go there and report your experience.

Nobody wants to be ruled by Moscow, the invaders are not viewed as “liberators from Nazis”.

RWSGFY says

western officials believe.

Western Officials believed that a cloth mask, well actually any old thing draped over your face in a show of compliance, is adequate defense against deadly viral pathogens.

RWSGFY says

In response to mass protests against the war, it has been reported that President Putin has announced that families of soldiers killed will receive payments of 12 million roubles (£87,000) and 2.8 million roubles (£20,000) plus monthly welfare if they are disabled.

It's now £73,000 and £17,000, respectively. What was it, 2 days?
Making promises in rubles is such a risk-free proposition.

The thing is that Russia has a long history of invading it's neighbors, but never any this big. Last time Russia invaded Poland was only after Germany had already beaten Poland, because the Russians were that afraid that they would lose, again, if they invaded Poland by themselves.

RWSGFY says

PerfectlyFlawed says

Sounds like western MSM propaganda.

So the guy is still alive and his friend, who announced his funeral on social media, is lying? Even though it's punisheable by 15 years in prison to spread "false information about military operstions".

This childish contrarianism is reaching comical levels.

Yes, this is EXACTLY what I'm saying

RWSGFY says

So the guy is still alive and his friend, who announced his funeral on social media, is lying?

Would you put it past our social media to falsify posts?

This is why all data that is put out there, should be signed with a digital signature. For example:

64f555ae7a93faae295b93e61426a8d1a078417ffaa057b6502de6de7b1ad3bd

Only I can produce that. That's just a simple digital signature. That cannot be faked.

Again - just wondering what the correlation is to people who actually believe Ukraine is the just/victim party (and/or even 'winning' the battle) in this conflict to those who actually believed the covid/forced vax hysteria as presented by the MSM over the last 2 years.

I'd venture to guess that those who believed in the covaid cooties and the need for forced vaxxing as presented by the MSM also believe that Russia is some sort of unwarranted aggressor (and/or losing the battle) in this situation, again - as our MSM et.al. is presenting.

If you did NOT believe in the MSM narrative about covid & need for forced vaxxing then you probably don't accept the idea that Ukraine is some sort of innocent victim in this conflict, or is succeeding, and there is likely much more to the story than what the MSM et.al. has been presenting 24/7 since the start of this thing.

It all boils down to skepticism of our MSM & affiliated corporate/gubmint spin-masters and the realization that anything they report on that is WORTH knowing is a lie or misrepresentation of some sort. At this point its very difficult to be gullible enough to believe anything they present as the truth..

PerfectlyFlawed says

Again - just wondering what the correlation is to people who actually believe Ukraine is the just/victim party (and/or even 'winning' the battle) in this conflict to those who actually believed the covid/forced vax hysteria as presented by the MSM over the last 2 years.

On this board the correlation should be about 0. I say that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone on this board who's vocally pro-Ukraine AND fell for the hysteria.

You are welcome.

I seemed to have found at least one!

who?

PerfectlyFlawed says

Again - just wondering what the correlation is to people who actually believe Ukraine is the just/victim party (and/or even 'winning' the battle) in this conflict to those who actually believed the covid/forced vax hysteria as presented by the MSM over the last 2 years.

I'd venture to guess that those who believed in the covaid cooties and the need for forced vaxxing as presented by the MSM also believe that Russia is some sort of unwarranted aggressor (and/or losing the battle) in this situation, again - as our MSM et.al. is presenting.

All the data is at your fingertips. There aren't that many users and the site is elegantly simple. So instead of wondering aloud you could do little digging and find out. Even automate your research if you have the skillz. Then enlighten the rest of us about the correlation or lack of thereof.

Ahh The Times! Same news agency who on March 1st posted a picture of a Ukraine armored vehicle burning, and claimed it was Russian(see their corrections). The times owned by News UK, a subsidiary of News Corp, and who might their primary owner be but one Rupert Murdoch. I wonder what old Rupert's publications thought about Covid? Ohh, but I'm sure they got it right this time in Eastern Europe, and Murdoch is definitely NOT a globalist, heading a barrage of propaganda networks he tricks people into believing unbiased news publications.

Have we learned nothing from the past two years..?

richwicks says

This is why all data that is put out there, should be signed with a digital signature. For example:

64f555ae7a93faae295b93e61426a8d1a078417ffaa057b6502de6de7b1ad3bd

Only I can produce that. That's just a simple digital signature. That cannot be faked.

Can it be copied?

Alexander Khrebet/Олександр Хребет@AlexKhrebet·13m

⚡⚡⚡ Russian major-general killed in action near Kharkiv. Vitaly Gerasimov, a chief of staff and first deputy commander of the 41st Army of Russia's Central Military District, Ukraine's intelligence intercepted talks.

WineHorror1 says

richwicks says

This is why all data that is put out there, should be signed with a digital signature. For example:

64f555ae7a93faae295b93e61426a8d1a078417ffaa057b6502de6de7b1ad3bd

Only I can produce that. That's just a simple digital signature. That cannot be faked.

Can it be copied?

Sure, it can be copied.

The point of a digital signature is that

1) it can be verified
2) it can ONLY be produced by the signer.

You can copy the message, but if you modified it in any way, the digital signature won't match when it's verified.

Hmm. I think I just had a bidness idea..

Another one bites the dust:

Commander of the 29th Army of the Eastern Military District (VVO), Major General Andrey Kolesnikov

Another one bites the dust:

Commander of the 29th Army of the Eastern Military District (VVO), Major General Andrey Kolesnikov

Some are dying in Ukraine, and soon others will be executed, jailed, or exiled back in mother Russia as Putin becomes further enraged by the clusterfuck of failure.

It’s a tragedy but almost comical to observe the complete stupidity of Putin.

To immobilize trucks and tanks requires just fucking them up, tires burn from Molotov cocktails, tank treads can be shot at, missiles of course are a “final solution.”

Some guys shooting.50 cal Barrett rifles from afar can immobilize vehicles from anywhere.
(In Florida you can buy one!)

Hundreds of tanks were destroyed and it’s still early in the war.

It’s ironic that Putin said the invasion was to protect Russia from a second invasion by “Nazis”, yet he is making the same mistake Hitler did trying to conquer Stalingrad.

clambo says

Hundreds of tanks were destroyed and it’s still early in the war.

Allegedly, by the same Media that said wearing a Mask was absolute science and essential to stopping COVID. And that CRT was only taught in law school, not taught in K12, before finally insisting it was vital to teach to K-12.

We know for a FACT that Fauci funded the Wuhan Labs. We now know FOR A FACT that Obama and Lugar funded Biolabs in Ukraine, and apparently (this needs verification) those Ukrainian labs got US Dept of Defense money.

Exactly. Any report that comes out of the corporate media is good evidence that it is not true.

The corporate media has become a negative indicator of truth.

The Russians used to say "There is no truth in Pravda." The joke being that the word "pravda" means "truth".

They were fragged by the conscripts.

I’m willing to believe that many tanks and other vehicles were destroyed.

I’m not watching the alphabet news.

Guys here who want to call me a fool, go ahead, flame away.

I have seen a little bit of the Soviet Union and the place would make a good three stooges episode.

They are “invincible” fighting civilians, except today evidently not even that.

Patrick says

The Russians used to say "There is no truth in Pravda." The joke being that the word "pravda" means "truth".

There is no news in Izvestia either.

Izvestia is Russian for news.

You know, I have to admit I'm a bit happy that our news media is finally recognized for what it really is - propaganda. I've been wishing for this day for decades when the AVERAGE person can say "I don't trust the mainstream media" and not be called a nutcase for saying it.

Using geolocation to find a Russian General:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBFdPNZzpwg&source=patrick.net

In the midst of all this glorious Ukrainian Nazi resistance and killing of the faltering Russians, the Russians have essentially circled 40,000 Ukrainian troops in Eastern Ukraine in one of their 'cauldron' movements. Once these troops are boiled in the 'causdron' and secured either through destruction or surrender, the faltering, failing, defeated Russians will have less resistance all the way to Kiev. They will falter and stagger until the Globalist pawns meet their conditions.

Someone is eating pot laced gummy bears

Somehow, we get all these reports of fallen Russian commanders, but nothing about fallen Ukrainian commanders.

Which side has people fleeing again?

Putin doesn't want to enter Kiev in force if he can avoid it.

Zelensky wants him to enter Kiev so the US media has lots of pictures of war, dead civilians, and glorious (but ultimately futile) resistance fighters.

But it's pretty much over.

China, India, and Brazil have no intention of sanctioning Putin. Nor will they no matter how much the Western Media waves the bloody shirt (We can't control every flying brick or rubble and deflect it away from civilians and neither can the Russians; the difference is the 2003 Media didn't run civilian collateral damage video much at all).

AmericanKulak says

Putin doesn't want to enter Kiev in force if he can avoid it.

Why should he have to? If his goal is (as stated) to demilitarize Ukraine, kill off the Nazi brigades (not in Kiev), secure/destroy the biological warfare labs, and secure independence for the breakaway republics of Donbas and the other one, this is a good strategy. He’s keeping the Ukraine resistance penned up in Kiev while he has unfettered access to the rest of the country. He only has to take Kiev if he wants regime change. In the meantime he can keep their airport in rubble and just besiege the city until they cry uncle.

I also suspect it's pretty much over, and that Russia will keep the breakaway republics, maybe letting them be nominally independent.

I noticed that the price of gold ticked down.



Of course I could be wrong. I didn't think he'd really invade to begin with.

Gold bugs can't catch a break.

Shaman says

Why should he have to? If his goal is (as stated) to demilitarize Ukraine, kill off the Nazi brigades (not in Kiev), secure/destroy the biological warfare labs, and secure independence for the breakaway republics of Donbas and the other one, this is a good strategy. He’s keeping the Ukraine resistance penned up in Kiev while he has unfettered access to the rest of the country. He only has to take Kiev if he wants regime change. In the meantime he can keep their airport in rubble and just besiege the city until they cry uncle.

Yep, I think he's got the regime bottled up in Kiev, the Donetsk/Luhansk Siege + (Maybe an extra chunk of the real UA transferred East expecting the attack from there), it's a waiting game.

Have to catch up on the news and maps today though.

Another colonel goes to hell:

Deputy Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Captain First Rank Andrey Paliy has joined his friends in hell.

Colonel Sukharev. A used-to-be commander of 331 VDV regiment from Kostroma.

This is an honorable mention. Highlighting a colonel in a thread which mostly mentions generals. He is the cocksucker who in 2014 guaranteed the safe passage of unarmed Ukrainian troops surrounded by Illovaisk, and then used artillery to kill them off during the passage.

Welcome to hell, comrade.