Is my perception off or is California looking more sh*tty these days?
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2023 Nov 13, 6:32am 2,998 views 54 comments
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just_passing_through
2023 Nov 13, 8:11am
just_passing_through
2023 Nov 13, 8:11am
I have to fly in for work every so often although the past year I've lived in TX and San Diego for the 10 before that. Definitely looks more run down to me these days but perhaps I was used to it. I'm including the peninsula in this remark.
I had a co-worker who moved away from the bay area in the 90s for 5 years only to move back and claim he'd noticed way more Asians around than before he moved away. I didn't notice anything like that at all but I suspect he was correct.
I'm not correlating the two events.
I had a co-worker who moved away from the bay area in the 90s for 5 years only to move back and claim he'd noticed way more Asians around than before he moved away. I didn't notice anything like that at all but I suspect he was correct.
I'm not correlating the two events.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 13, 9:05am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 13, 9:05am
clambo says
It seems like San Francisco never recovered its "core" after COVID.
Where did you end up escaping to after California?
I departed California in December 2020, so there were still pandemic effects.
But, San Francisco has hollowed out; the bums, addicts, and shoplifters have provided the coup de grace after the place was shut down for a while during the pandemic.
I had a fun visit to San Francisco right after they ordered us all to "shelter in place" in March 2020. The place was deserted, so no traffic anywhere I went. It reminded me of those post-apocalyptic movies.
A few people have YouTube videos of the deserted areas of San Francisco; it's amazing to see.
Before the pandemic, in Santa Cruz the homeless population was huge and it was ruining the downtown.
People generally don't know that the homeless are largely drug addicts who don't want a real place to live. Of course, there are exceptions.
It seems like San Francisco never recovered its "core" after COVID.
Where did you end up escaping to after California?
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RWSGFY
2023 Nov 13, 9:19am
RWSGFY
2023 Nov 13, 9:19am
You should visit now: rumor has it they cleaned all the shit up for the Xi Pingpong's visit.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 13, 9:22am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 13, 9:22am
RedStar says
You're getting libbies in Placer County? If I remember correctly, that's "MAGA" country by California standards...
Yeah I was in Nevada for a while and enjoying it a lot quite frankly. I had a nice property, acreage, and a lot of outdoor toys (ATVs, etc). Great fishing! Very cold winters. Then we elected Steve Sisolak. This commie libtard came into office as a "moderate Democrat", the first (D) elected in like 20 years as governor. His "moderate" stances all went out the window as soon as COVID came around. He shut the state down Newsom style, declared an emergency order, and bankrupted lots of businesses as a result. It's part of the reason he lost re-election. I had enough myself. All the Demon-Rats escaping California's draconian taxes and lockdowns started flowing into Clark County, voting the same way, and I said "I'm outta here."
Now I'm in Texas in a solid red state, loving it here as well. As long as the Demon-Rats don't follow me to my very bright red, very safe, and gun friendly county, I'll probably stay here until I die.
SF is a shell of what it once was. Took the wife on a date night to the peninsula few weeks ago and she insisted on visiting Golden Gate Park. I was shocked that I could find ample free parking everywhere I went on a weekend. I was almost curious enough to drive thru the other tourist areas but fortunately she got tired and wanted to go home. But CA is a lost cause as all the libtards who moved out of the BA are turning their new areas blue, like Placer County where I am at. The entire Sacramento region has become the new BA. Homeless everywhere, violent crimes all over.
Where was it that you moved to? If I recall you were in Nevada for a bit? I'm still upset I didn't buy in Carson Valley when I had the chance.
You're getting libbies in Placer County? If I remember correctly, that's "MAGA" country by California standards...
Yeah I was in Nevada for a while and enjoying it a lot quite frankly. I had a nice property, acreage, and a lot of outdoor toys (ATVs, etc). Great fishing! Very cold winters. Then we elected Steve Sisolak. This commie libtard came into office as a "moderate Democrat", the first (D) elected in like 20 years as governor. His "moderate" stances all went out the window as soon as COVID came around. He shut the state down Newsom style, declared an emergency order, and bankrupted lots of businesses as a result. It's part of the reason he lost re-election. I had enough myself. All the Demon-Rats escaping California's draconian taxes and lockdowns started flowing into Clark County, voting the same way, and I said "I'm outta here."
Now I'm in Texas in a solid red state, loving it here as well. As long as the Demon-Rats don't follow me to my very bright red, very safe, and gun friendly county, I'll probably stay here until I die.
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Ceffer
2023 Nov 13, 9:32am
Ceffer
2023 Nov 13, 9:32am
Well, when you compare SF to actual shit, the shit often wins, so there's that.
Main thing is the uptick in deputized crime that is spreading into the leafy burbs rather quickly these days (less the real oligarch redoubts). Beverly Hills Rodeo Drive is closing down, apparently.
Tri Valley is seeing Obama's sons ramping things up as school is useless to educate them, but by word of mouth they know they are free to engage in Visigoth plunder. They also have the camouflaging effect of the Netflix propaganda assaults making them seem other than what they are as a foothold into the softie Dem idiots, who apparently will need a Darwinian culling to adapt.
Main thing is the uptick in deputized crime that is spreading into the leafy burbs rather quickly these days (less the real oligarch redoubts). Beverly Hills Rodeo Drive is closing down, apparently.
Tri Valley is seeing Obama's sons ramping things up as school is useless to educate them, but by word of mouth they know they are free to engage in Visigoth plunder. They also have the camouflaging effect of the Netflix propaganda assaults making them seem other than what they are as a foothold into the softie Dem idiots, who apparently will need a Darwinian culling to adapt.
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Patrick
2023 Nov 13, 9:52am
Patrick
2023 Nov 13, 9:52am
https://www.libsoftiktok.com/p/daily-briefing-nj-drag-shows-san?publication_id=824253&post_id=138820122&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz
That's my old workday turf.
SAN FRANCISCO STREETS MIRACULOUSLY CLEANED FOR APEC SUMMIT
The dirty streets of San Francisco, California were suddenly made spotless for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Summit, for which President Xi of China will be in attendance. The streets were also lined with gated fences.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1723516125487460811
That's my old workday turf.
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Ceffer
2023 Nov 13, 9:59am
Ceffer
2023 Nov 13, 9:59am
"Emperor Xi, our Lord and God, told us that SF looking worse than a destitute KommieKunt shithole gave KommieKunts a bad name."
https://t.me/WW3INFO/28271
https://t.me/WW3INFO/28271
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clambo
2023 Nov 13, 10:22am
GoranK,
I went to Florida where I established residence.
I'm actually spending more time in Baja California Sur, Mexico.
I'm basically a medical tourist to Florida; I'm not that confident in the doctors down here.
I might leave Florida to live in Baja Sur full time, except for the hottest months.
I went to Florida where I established residence.
I'm actually spending more time in Baja California Sur, Mexico.
I'm basically a medical tourist to Florida; I'm not that confident in the doctors down here.
I might leave Florida to live in Baja Sur full time, except for the hottest months.
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B.A.C.A.H.
2023 Nov 13, 10:59am
B.A.C.A.H.
2023 Nov 13, 10:59am
Goran_K says
More and more over the years, the western edge of Placer County, where most of the people live, has become a bedroom community for Sacramento based civil servants for the People's Republic of California. Some of them are my homies from East SJ.
You're getting libbies in Placer County? If I remember correctly, that's "MAGA" country by California standards...
More and more over the years, the western edge of Placer County, where most of the people live, has become a bedroom community for Sacramento based civil servants for the People's Republic of California. Some of them are my homies from East SJ.
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WookieMan
2023 Nov 13, 6:18pm
WookieMan
2023 Nov 13, 6:18pm
Goran_K says
Can't outrun them. You're already surrounded by them, you might just not feel it yet. Matter of time.
The problem is they're a vocal minority that gets out and votes, left leaning cunts. Conservatives don't and probably never will. That's why I've never been partisan because conservatives are generally pussies and get nothing done. Can't stand democrats. You're not safe in any state anymore. It's local at this point. Not statewide. There is no "red" state. It's town to town. City to city. Texas is turning blue faster than you realize because of the CA exodus. It will be a blue state in the next decade. Quote this and call me out in the future.
Democrats are parasites/virus. You cannot stop them. The only way is to kill them if I'm being honest. And I'm not promoting that, but I'm just calling them what they are. Texas is doomed, you just don't know it yet. Learn to live amongst the parasites and figure out how to find like minded people to get off their fucking ass and do something.
Now I'm in Texas in a solid red state, loving it here as well. As long as the Demon-Rats don't follow me to my very bright red, very safe, and gun friendly county, I'll probably stay here until I die.
Can't outrun them. You're already surrounded by them, you might just not feel it yet. Matter of time.
The problem is they're a vocal minority that gets out and votes, left leaning cunts. Conservatives don't and probably never will. That's why I've never been partisan because conservatives are generally pussies and get nothing done. Can't stand democrats. You're not safe in any state anymore. It's local at this point. Not statewide. There is no "red" state. It's town to town. City to city. Texas is turning blue faster than you realize because of the CA exodus. It will be a blue state in the next decade. Quote this and call me out in the future.
Democrats are parasites/virus. You cannot stop them. The only way is to kill them if I'm being honest. And I'm not promoting that, but I'm just calling them what they are. Texas is doomed, you just don't know it yet. Learn to live amongst the parasites and figure out how to find like minded people to get off their fucking ass and do something.
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AD
2023 Nov 13, 6:53pm
AD
2023 Nov 13, 6:53pm
Goran_K says
Your friend is way down the white liberal rabbit hole. Going to take more than one red pill to get him to realize the fallacy of accepting California dysfunction as the norm.
Maybe by him getting seriously assaulted and traumatized by one of the homeless hoard as a way to wake him up and start deprogramming him.
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He kinda laughs, and says it's "different" in SF, and then changes the subject.
Your friend is way down the white liberal rabbit hole. Going to take more than one red pill to get him to realize the fallacy of accepting California dysfunction as the norm.
Maybe by him getting seriously assaulted and traumatized by one of the homeless hoard as a way to wake him up and start deprogramming him.
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UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2023 Nov 13, 7:31pm
UkraineIsTotallyFucked
2023 Nov 13, 7:31pm
For the first time in years, I went to Downtown SJ to have dinner at Original Joe's.
I was immediately struck by how much it resembles Oakland. It's gone to shit that bad.
I remember it being like this in the 70s, before Mayor Tom McHenry pushed through massive renovation.
I was immediately struck by how much it resembles Oakland. It's gone to shit that bad.
I remember it being like this in the 70s, before Mayor Tom McHenry pushed through massive renovation.
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Ceffer
2023 Nov 13, 7:38pm
Ceffer
2023 Nov 13, 7:38pm
Everybody thinks we voted this shit in. It was APPOINTED in by election fraud and the usual and customary Soros Fecal Impaction drive. If there were no election fraud, Newsom would have been out with the last recall.
When you see scroungy hippies in Santa Cruz hailing people for recall drive signatures against the appointees, you know that it isn't just LibbyFuck voting that caused all of this. The standard LibbyFuck portrait seems to be the affluent and the largely economically immune who continue to dodder on with the liberal illusion i.e. the curse of the Victor David Hanson coastal elites. However, remember that Tech is generally CIA, NSA and surveillance state stuff under the guise of convenience. It is a major NWO franchise.
It does look like it will take military intervention and A LOT of arrests to set California upright again on the vote.
When you see scroungy hippies in Santa Cruz hailing people for recall drive signatures against the appointees, you know that it isn't just LibbyFuck voting that caused all of this. The standard LibbyFuck portrait seems to be the affluent and the largely economically immune who continue to dodder on with the liberal illusion i.e. the curse of the Victor David Hanson coastal elites. However, remember that Tech is generally CIA, NSA and surveillance state stuff under the guise of convenience. It is a major NWO franchise.
It does look like it will take military intervention and A LOT of arrests to set California upright again on the vote.
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komputodo
2023 Nov 13, 8:36pm
komputodo
2023 Nov 13, 8:36pm
PumpingRedheads says
Did you have the "Joe's Special"?
For the first time in years, I went to Downtown SJ to have dinner at Original Joe's.
Did you have the "Joe's Special"?
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komputodo
2023 Nov 13, 8:37pm
komputodo
2023 Nov 13, 8:37pm
RWSGFY says
How long do you figure it will stay clean?
You should visit now: rumor has it they cleaned all the shit up for the Xi Pingpong's visit.
How long do you figure it will stay clean?
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HeadSet
2023 Nov 14, 6:40am
HeadSet
2023 Nov 14, 6:40am
komputodo says
Until all those Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Summit attendees trash the area.
How long do you figure it will stay clean?
Until all those Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Summit attendees trash the area.
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RWSGFY
2023 Nov 14, 6:57am
RWSGFY
2023 Nov 14, 6:57am
HeadSet says
Rumor has it Xi Pingpong himself is planning to take a huge dump in the middle of Market Street to celebrate the ancient SF tradition of public defecation.
komputodo says
How long do you figure it will stay clean?
Until all those Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Summit attendees trash the area.
Rumor has it Xi Pingpong himself is planning to take a huge dump in the middle of Market Street to celebrate the ancient SF tradition of public defecation.
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HeadSet
2023 Nov 14, 7:04am
HeadSet
2023 Nov 14, 7:04am
RWSGFY says
If Xi does that, clumsy Biden is likely to step in it.
Rumor has it Xi Pingpong himself is planning to take a huge dump in the middle of Market Street to celebrate the ancient SF tradition of public defecation.
If Xi does that, clumsy Biden is likely to step in it.
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RWSGFY
2023 Nov 14, 7:08am
RWSGFY
2023 Nov 14, 7:08am
HeadSet says
Step? Ha! He'll slip and fall in it.
RWSGFY says
Rumor has it Xi Pingpong himself is planning to take a huge dump in the middle of Market Street to celebrate the ancient SF tradition of public defecation.
If Xi does that, clumsy Biden is likely to step in it.
Step? Ha! He'll slip and fall in it.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 14, 9:31am
NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 14, 9:31am
So I never heavily frequented downtown San Diego when I lived there. I do remember seeing homeless at the main trolley station when I used to work Jack Murphy(named the Q during this time, but always Jack Murphy to me). We ate at a Michelin recognized Thai restaurant before we left a few times, south side of downtown(forget what it's called). The tents literally have taken over entire blocks, it was never like that in the past. And as there is a dog park in the area, had to step around a lot of dog shit. Because obviously bringing a bag, or teaching your dog to defecate on dirt/grass is too much trouble for the area residents.
But I will say if this isn't in Houston, or Dallas, it will be eventually. All cities along with centralization are past their prime.
But I will say if this isn't in Houston, or Dallas, it will be eventually. All cities along with centralization are past their prime.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 14, 9:32am
NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 14, 9:32am
Also, where have you been hiding Goran? Or did you just take me off ignore?
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:40am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:40am
NuttBoxer says
lol, I don't think I have anyone on ignore. This is my first topic or post in over a year. I've just been busy enjoying life, and sometimes posting social media, though I admit it's not something I do very much anymore. I thought about Pat.net recently because of my SF trip, and was just shocked by how terrible the city looks.
Also, where have you been hiding Goran? Or did you just take me off ignore?
lol, I don't think I have anyone on ignore. This is my first topic or post in over a year. I've just been busy enjoying life, and sometimes posting social media, though I admit it's not something I do very much anymore. I thought about Pat.net recently because of my SF trip, and was just shocked by how terrible the city looks.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:41am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:41am
Patrick says
That's a slap in the face of every business that closed down over the past 3 years because of crime, homelessness, and general filth. How Californians can continue to vote for Newsom is beyond me.
https://www.libsoftiktok.com/p/daily-briefing-nj-drag-shows-san?publication_id=824253&post_id=138820122&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz
SAN FRANCISCO STREETS MIRACULOUSLY CLEANED FOR APEC SUMMIT
The dirty streets of San Francisco, California were suddenly made spotless for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Summit, for which President Xi of China will be in attendance. The streets were also lined with gated fences.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1723516125487460811
That's my old workday turf.
That's a slap in the face of every business that closed down over the past 3 years because of crime, homelessness, and general filth. How Californians can continue to vote for Newsom is beyond me.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 14, 9:49am
NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 14, 9:49am
I don't think they did. That recall was as scammy as the 2020 Presidential race results.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:49am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:49am
WookieMan says
You might be right about the killing part lol, but definitely not something I personally would engage in at the moment. I'm getting too old, and not too far from retirement. I'll leave Civil War part 2 to the younger, stronger men.
As for Texas, sure it may become blue in the future, but Abbot won by a million votes over Beto. Also, a lot of transplants coming from California actually turn out to be conservative. Exit polls showed that Ted Cruz only stayed in office because of conservative transplants, not "home grown" Texan votes.
Now, 10-20 years in the future? Who knows? California had a Republican governor 20 years ago. But by that time, I'll more than likely be retired overseas if it gets way too bad here in the states (I already own a vacation home in Portugal), and I don't care if the Demon-Rats take over and ruin the country. They'll deserve everything they vote for at that time.
Democrats are parasites/virus. You cannot stop them. The only way is to kill them if I'm being honest. And I'm not promoting that, but I'm just calling them what they are. Texas is doomed, you just don't know it yet. Learn to live amongst the parasites and figure out how to find like minded people to get off their fucking ass and do something.
You might be right about the killing part lol, but definitely not something I personally would engage in at the moment. I'm getting too old, and not too far from retirement. I'll leave Civil War part 2 to the younger, stronger men.
As for Texas, sure it may become blue in the future, but Abbot won by a million votes over Beto. Also, a lot of transplants coming from California actually turn out to be conservative. Exit polls showed that Ted Cruz only stayed in office because of conservative transplants, not "home grown" Texan votes.
Now, 10-20 years in the future? Who knows? California had a Republican governor 20 years ago. But by that time, I'll more than likely be retired overseas if it gets way too bad here in the states (I already own a vacation home in Portugal), and I don't care if the Demon-Rats take over and ruin the country. They'll deserve everything they vote for at that time.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:53am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 14, 9:53am
NuttBoxer says
Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not 100% in on the voter scamming because of the sheer amount of Demon-Rat morons who have infected all facets of life in CommieFornia. The K-12 system is basically 99% far left leaning liberals, and because of that, I do think that California public schools are producing tons of far left graduates. This slant also shows up at most of the public California colleges.
Now I do think that in closer races, say an election of 1-3 points in difference, Demon-Rats have an advantage because of ballot harvesting.
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
I don't think they did. That recall was as scammy as the 2020 Presidential race results.
Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not 100% in on the voter scamming because of the sheer amount of Demon-Rat morons who have infected all facets of life in CommieFornia. The K-12 system is basically 99% far left leaning liberals, and because of that, I do think that California public schools are producing tons of far left graduates. This slant also shows up at most of the public California colleges.
Now I do think that in closer races, say an election of 1-3 points in difference, Demon-Rats have an advantage because of ballot harvesting.
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
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Ceffer
2023 Nov 14, 10:16am
Ceffer
2023 Nov 14, 10:16am
Goran_K says
You haven't gone to the polling stations. Rotting old gomers and Chinese apparatchiks, no identification required, Dominion or their ilk voting machines. You just roll in and ask for a printed ballot to be counted on the 'convenient' machines. If you fill one out by hand, they put it in a hamper, they are never counted, and the 'results' are declared within hours by some statistical plurality manipulation. Also, you can smell the Kommie hall monitors a mile away, smiling their greasy, hypocritical smiles, as you climb onto the 'You Are Served' election UFO.
It is obvious the polling places and the voting are nothing but a hollow sham. As is the modern custom in the KommieKunt Soros Fecal Impaction appointments, they don't even try to hide the fraud any more.
At least a few years ago, they play acted at legitimacy and appearances. Now, it is all Potemkin.
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
You haven't gone to the polling stations. Rotting old gomers and Chinese apparatchiks, no identification required, Dominion or their ilk voting machines. You just roll in and ask for a printed ballot to be counted on the 'convenient' machines. If you fill one out by hand, they put it in a hamper, they are never counted, and the 'results' are declared within hours by some statistical plurality manipulation. Also, you can smell the Kommie hall monitors a mile away, smiling their greasy, hypocritical smiles, as you climb onto the 'You Are Served' election UFO.
It is obvious the polling places and the voting are nothing but a hollow sham. As is the modern custom in the KommieKunt Soros Fecal Impaction appointments, they don't even try to hide the fraud any more.
At least a few years ago, they play acted at legitimacy and appearances. Now, it is all Potemkin.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 14, 1:53pm
NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 14, 1:53pm
Goran_K says
So how did the recall happen in the first place? And that's what it was, not an election. If you can make Biden look like the most popular candidate in US history, no number is insurmountable. Change the algorithm to switch half the remove votes to keep, there's your two million.
If you don't understand how they'll keep winning every "election" post 2020, I don't know what you tell you. Wake the fuck up, they aren't tying your hands behind your back before you step into the ring, they're fucking loping them off.
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
So how did the recall happen in the first place? And that's what it was, not an election. If you can make Biden look like the most popular candidate in US history, no number is insurmountable. Change the algorithm to switch half the remove votes to keep, there's your two million.
If you don't understand how they'll keep winning every "election" post 2020, I don't know what you tell you. Wake the fuck up, they aren't tying your hands behind your back before you step into the ring, they're fucking loping them off.
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Ceffer
2023 Nov 14, 2:58pm
Ceffer
2023 Nov 14, 2:58pm
Peasants, Plebs, and useless eaters are being humiliated and shown their place under the boot. We'll piss on them on the way out.
https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/112404
https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/112404
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 6:36am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 6:36am
NuttBoxer says
I admit there are shenanigans of more effect in certain swing states. Pennsylvania and Arizona are the top potential fraud states for me because of voting machine "malfunctions" on election day (every damn time).
But I don't buy that California is one of them because of the sheer amount of libturds that live there. I do think Democrats are winning legitimately in many California districts because there are some where the registered Republican percentage is less than 15%, especially around LA and SF.
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
Goran_K says
But let's be honest, more than likely, that wasn't a factor for Newsom winning re-election in 2022. He literally won by 2 million votes.
So how did the recall happen in the first place? And that's what it was, not an election. If you can make Biden look like the most popular candidate in US history, no number is insurmountable. Change the algorithm to switch half the remove votes to keep, there's your two million.
If you don't understand how they'll keep winning every "election" post 2020, I don't know what you tell you. Wake the fuck up, they aren't tying your hands behind your back before you step into the ring, they're fucking loping them off.
I admit there are shenanigans of more effect in certain swing states. Pennsylvania and Arizona are the top potential fraud states for me because of voting machine "malfunctions" on election day (every damn time).
But I don't buy that California is one of them because of the sheer amount of libturds that live there. I do think Democrats are winning legitimately in many California districts because there are some where the registered Republican percentage is less than 15%, especially around LA and SF.
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
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HeadSet
2023 Nov 15, 6:43am
HeadSet
2023 Nov 15, 6:43am
Goran_K says
They save the fraud for the statewide (Governor and President, maybe Senate) positions. Statewide fraud allows one to pick the best precincts to manipulate. Not as much opportunity with smaller district elections.
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
They save the fraud for the statewide (Governor and President, maybe Senate) positions. Statewide fraud allows one to pick the best precincts to manipulate. Not as much opportunity with smaller district elections.
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RC2006
2023 Nov 15, 6:56am
RC2006
2023 Nov 15, 6:56am
California is full of parasites. They do vote for crazy left/commie shit. I cant even count how many Ive talked to and couldnt even comprehend how stupid and illogical thier thought process worked. They live in an alternate reality and any attempt to change that causes them to rage.
If you think CA voters dont vote for insanity you havent lived there long or roamed around in the cities and talked to enough people.
If you think CA voters dont vote for insanity you havent lived there long or roamed around in the cities and talked to enough people.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 7:39am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 7:39am
HeadSet says
Okay. Let's say MAYBE I buy your point, they're only frauding on state-wide offices.
How do you explain the anemic Republican registration across the state?
Let's take LA County (the largest county by population in California).
5,608,308 TOTAL registered voters.
Democrat Registered: 3,000,541
Republican Registered: 959,894
Other (Green, Independent, etc): 1,647,873
By the stats above, even if ALL of the GOP voters, and "Other" voters, all cast ballots to get rid of Gavin Newsom during the recall (100% turnout), they still would fall 400,000 votes short of succeeding in ousting Newsom.
Only 17% of LA County is registered Republican (it's even worse in the SF Metro area), that's just a math problem that conservatives cannot overcome in California.
Now, I do think ballot harvesting, and bad voter rolls do have "some" effect on these elections, but it's not 20-30% of the vote. Even if I give you 10%, it's not enough to overcome the sheer amount of Demon-Rats registered in the state.
Goran_K says
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
They save the fraud for the statewide (Governor and President, maybe Senate) positions. Statewide fraud allows one to pick the best precincts to manipulate. Not as much opportunity with smaller district elections.
Okay. Let's say MAYBE I buy your point, they're only frauding on state-wide offices.
How do you explain the anemic Republican registration across the state?
Let's take LA County (the largest county by population in California).
5,608,308 TOTAL registered voters.
Democrat Registered: 3,000,541
Republican Registered: 959,894
Other (Green, Independent, etc): 1,647,873
By the stats above, even if ALL of the GOP voters, and "Other" voters, all cast ballots to get rid of Gavin Newsom during the recall (100% turnout), they still would fall 400,000 votes short of succeeding in ousting Newsom.
Only 17% of LA County is registered Republican (it's even worse in the SF Metro area), that's just a math problem that conservatives cannot overcome in California.
Now, I do think ballot harvesting, and bad voter rolls do have "some" effect on these elections, but it's not 20-30% of the vote. Even if I give you 10%, it's not enough to overcome the sheer amount of Demon-Rats registered in the state.
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 7:41am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 7:41am
RC2006 says
Exactly my point.
I feel like some of the people here have only lived in California since Newsom took office. The entirety of the education system, all the big state unions, are 90% Democrat owned. They outspend Republican candidates literally 10 to 1 in the state. Just the fact that 4 Republicans were able to flip seats last election was a welcome minor miracle.
California is full of parasites. They do vote for crazy left/commie shit. I cant even count how many Ive talked to and couldnt even comprehend how stupid and illogical thier thought process worked. They live in an alternate reality and any attempt to change that causes them to rage.
If you think CA voters dont vote for insanity you havent lived there long or roamed around in the cities and talked to enough people.
Exactly my point.
I feel like some of the people here have only lived in California since Newsom took office. The entirety of the education system, all the big state unions, are 90% Democrat owned. They outspend Republican candidates literally 10 to 1 in the state. Just the fact that 4 Republicans were able to flip seats last election was a welcome minor miracle.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 15, 8:23am
NuttBoxer
2023 Nov 15, 8:23am
Goran_K says
I would refer you back to my time tested saying, there are no Republicans or Democrats, only scum.. err politicians. Did those four seats improve the situation in California for the average citizen in any meaningful way?
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
I would refer you back to my time tested saying, there are no Republicans or Democrats, only scum.. err politicians. Did those four seats improve the situation in California for the average citizen in any meaningful way?
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Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 9:11am
Goran_K
2023 Nov 15, 9:11am
NuttBoxer says
I don't think anyone here actually likes politicians or thinks that they do meaningful work for the people (though I did make a lot of money during the Trump days, like doubled my net worth).
But that's besides the point. If what you're saying is true, that BLUE somehow rigs the elections in California, then why would they let RED take 4 seats, especially with how razor thin house control was in 2022? Doesn't make sense.
Just admit that California conservatives are literally outnumbered 3 to 1, then it starts to make sense. California is the deepest blue state in the country.
Goran_K says
Also if California is just full of fraud, how did Republicans flip 4+ seats from blue to red last election which helped Republicans get the House? Why wouldn't Newsom just fraudulently prevent those flipped seats?
I would refer you back to my time tested saying, there are no Republicans or Democrats, only scum.. err politicians. Did those four seats improve the situation in California for the average citizen in any meaningful way?
I don't think anyone here actually likes politicians or thinks that they do meaningful work for the people (though I did make a lot of money during the Trump days, like doubled my net worth).
But that's besides the point. If what you're saying is true, that BLUE somehow rigs the elections in California, then why would they let RED take 4 seats, especially with how razor thin house control was in 2022? Doesn't make sense.
Just admit that California conservatives are literally outnumbered 3 to 1, then it starts to make sense. California is the deepest blue state in the country.
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I try to avoid going back to California for any reason but because I still have family in the state, I am sometimes forced to visit the Bay Area. But there will be gaps of like 2-3 years between visits.
So in October, I land in SFO to visit my sister. My sister and her kids are still in the Burlingame area. Before I take my rental car down south, I visit a friend for dinner in SF. As I'm driving into the city on 80 and about to exit into SOMA, I begin to notice things are looking a little shabbier than I remember. We meet at a place near Market Street, and I begin to notice something weird. There are literally no retail stores open on the block. Literally all "for lease signs" and most windows are boarded up. The streets are also extremely empty. it's eerie to see. Of course you see a few buses, the odd cracked out homeless person stumbling around, but general foot traffic seems very low compared to what I remembered of SF long ago. Especially during dinner time.
Now my friend is a bit "liberal", so I try not to get too deep into political discussions. Also, I don't keep up with California politics much anymore, except whenever Gavin Newsom tries to insert himself onto national TV with some ridiculous proclamation (like banning all gas powered cars by 2035). But I had to ask him, "Why does it seem every business is closed in downtown and where is everyone?"
He replies, "Well, in the middle of the week it's basically quiet, wait until the weekend it gets very crowded."
I kinda gave him a puzzled look, "It's quiet and empty in the middle of the WORK week in a major city?" I told him it's not like that in Houston, Dallas, or Austin (I currently reside in Texas). The middle of downtown SF just seems extremely sad. Empty, closed down businesses, and lots of cracked out homeless people just laying down in the cold streets. This looks worse than some third world countries I've visited in my life.
He kinda laughs, and says it's "different" in SF, and then changes the subject.
My question to y'all who still live near a major California city, or the Bay Area, have you guys noticed a change over the past 5+ years? I swear my mind must be playing tricks on me because SF wasn't this bad in my memory.