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Putin Is A Bully And A Thug


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2022 Sep 29, 9:28am   6,467 views  95 comments

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#vladimirputin We have seen our retirement funds and other investments drop in value. Even billionaires have seen big market losses. The conventional wisdom is that fear of inflation is depressing financial markets worldwide.
I have a contrarian view. I call it "The Fear of Vladimir Putin stock market." The Ukraine war has "turned the world on its ear." Energy markets have been disrupted. Food markets have been disrupted. Commodity markets have been disrupted. The New York Times came out with an Op-Ed yesterday pointing out all the awful things that Vladimir Putin can still do as he becomes a cornered wild animal.
This man is simply a bully and a thug. If people stand up to him, they will stop him. This "superman" has failed miserably in Ukraine with 80,000 men and women killed including a massive number of senior officers in 7 months. All his armed forces have failed. His Air Force cannot carry out serious combat operations because they do not have proper communications systems to keep their planes from being shot down by "friendly fire." His Navy is in hiding and will not come out and fight. We see corruption ad incompetence on a grand scale. There are all sorts of reports on the deterioration of his feared nuclear arsenal. How well will it work? I think not well.
Let us go back to the Cuban missile crisis in 1962 and 1983. Mid-level Soviet officers (say Lt. Colonel) had their hands right on the keys to fire nuclear warheads. They both realized the enormity of such a move. They refused to fire. If history is any guide, the officers under Putin will not carry out the orders to fire nuclear weapons if Putin issues such orders.
If Putin does fire nuclear warheads, he will be hit by two US cyber-attacks lasting only nanoseconds. One will take his internet offline permanently. The other will take down his electricity grid for many months. (Imagine being with no electric power for 4-5 months!) Russia will break apart, as the old Soviet Union did.

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57   richwicks   2022 Oct 4, 12:34am  

gabbar says




I support it, even if I don't trust Elon Musk as far as I can shit.
58   gabbar   2022 Oct 4, 12:50am  

richwicks says

gabbar says





I support it, even if I don't trust Elon Musk as far as I can shit.

I hear you. I am an old fool but I recall in the past, there used to be peace rallies, politicians using the word peace in their rhetoric but now we don't see anything of that sort.
59   GNL   2022 Oct 4, 4:22am  

richwicks says

The United States can't compete against cheap Russian energy,

I've been told Russian oil is cheap because it is much more expensive to refine because of it's high sulfur content.
60   Tenpoundbass   2022 Oct 4, 9:50am  

I sure with they would hurry up and and get shit going over there. So Putin can get rid of Mark A. Milley and Lloyd Austin's mentally and gender confused idiots, for us.

Sure would save us a lot of Commie Liberal legal lawfare, when we have to sort it out ourselves.
62   socal2   2022 Oct 4, 10:34am  

NuttBoxer says

The difference is timing. They did it then, US government is doing it now.


Not even remotely in the same universe what is happening in the US today

The Soviet Union executed over 100,000 clergymen between 1937-41. Religion was all but outlawed in the USSR with tens of millions of Christians persecuted, sent to Gulags or to death.

Communist regimes were the most satanic on the planet in terms of persecution of Christians, Jews and Muslims.
63   clambo   2022 Oct 4, 11:04am  

Elon has evidently a lot of time on his hands to become interested in Ukraine.

Since Putin has already acted in bad faith, why seek any deal with him?

Elon conveniently forgets that Putin signed an agreement not to invade Ukraine.

How much weed does Elon smoke anyway? Just curious.

Tesla's are ugly cars and the batteries are future electronic waste.
64   Eric Holder   2022 Oct 4, 11:11am  

clambo says

Elon has evidently a lot of time on his hands to become interested in Ukraine.

Since Putin has already acted in bad faith, why seek any deal with him?

Elon conveniently forgets that Putin signed an agreement not to invade Ukraine.

How much weed does Elon smoke anyway? Just curious.<


Yep, for a supposedly savvy ane ruthless businessman he's shown a remarkable level of naivete.
65   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Oct 4, 2:07pm  

zzyzzx says


FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says


Booger says


GNL says


You mean in the same way America does this through NATO?


Is the US trying to annex Europe?



We sort of annexed Ukraine in 2014 until Russia flipped out and demanded a cut of the deal.



No way would the US attempt to annex someplace full of white people!



damn it, i was hoping for Ukraine to join as 51st state. think those guys can start identifying as black? its not hard… just have to steal bikes, leave moms single and say nigga a lot…
66   Ceffer   2022 Oct 4, 2:08pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

damn it, i was hoping for Ukraine to join as 51st state.

They would have to triple our taxes. It would be SO worth it to thwart Putin.
67   RWSGFY   2022 Oct 4, 2:12pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says



We sort of annexed Ukraine in 2014 until Russia flipped out and demanded a cut of the deal.


Comedy gold!
68   Patrick   2022 Oct 4, 2:17pm  

clambo says


What did this rant have to do with attacking Ukraine? Nothing at all.


Putin is right that the legally enforced sexual degeneracy of the west is a threat to Russia and to the world. It is a threat to families and to children.

The US was trying to promote homosexuality in Afghanistan shortly before the Taliban took over Kabul.

Now the US is promoting this guy in Ukraine:

69   Patrick   2022 Oct 4, 2:20pm  

clambo says

Putin is deranged; lately he was ranting about the “satanic west”


He has a point there as well:



70   Patrick   2022 Oct 4, 2:20pm  

Note that I'm not saying Putin is a good guy, but bad guys can make legitimate points.
71   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Oct 4, 3:12pm  

Patrick says

Note that I'm not saying Putin is a good guy, but bad guys can make legitimate points.


exactly. im a taxpayer, i don’t see how funding this war benefits america. yet our elites who clearly don’t answer to us, fund war and tell us to shut up and obey. thats not representing me, probably only representing MIC. giant wtf
72   richwicks   2022 Oct 4, 3:48pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


i don’t see how funding this war benefits america. yet our elites who clearly don’t answer to us, fund war and tell us to shut up and obey. thats not representing me, probably only representing MIC. giant wtf


Are your serious?

How did funding the bombing of Libya benefit the US taxpayer? Syria? Iraq. Afghanistan. Yemen? Somalia?

NONE of these wars benefit this country or its citizens. Now many people who are against this fucking stupidity are against it for MORAL reasons, but there's a very real reason to be against it for FINANCIAL reasons. There's no reason to support any of these stupid fucking wars.

It doesn't benefit us, it doesn't benefit our nations, and it doesn't benefit the people that are being bombed. There's literally NOBODY walking ahead, other than the fuckers producing the weapons, and the assholes with bullshit reconstruction contracts.

After the US blows up a place, a bunch of money is sent for "reconstruction", but nothing is constructed, but the US taxpayer pays for that AGAIN. It's a scam, all the wars are scams now.
73   gabbar   2022 Oct 4, 3:54pm  

richwicks says

NONE of these wars benefit this country or its citizens.

It does benefit some citizens, for example, people who work in the military and espionage octopus. It gives an excuse to wash away crimes (printing of money which screws all citizens). War is a racket and war does benefit some people. I don't think the military and espionage octopus would keep quiet if Brandon were to pursue a no war policy. I don't think Trump was liked too much by this octopus.

There is no need for people support for wars. Once these fuckers are in power, they do whatever they like.
74   richwicks   2022 Oct 4, 4:01pm  

gabbar says

It does benefit some citizens, for example, people who work in the military and espionage octopus. It gives an excuse to wash away crimes (printing of money which screws all citizens). War is a racket and war does benefit some people. I don't think the military and espionage octopus would keep quiet if Brandon were to pursue a no war policy. I don't think Trump was liked too much by this octopus.


Fair enough, you got me there - it benefits some US citizens, US criminal citizens.

gabbar says

There is no need for people support for wars. Once these fuckers are in power, they do whatever they like.


So, it's not a democratic republic is it? That's my point.
75   Patrick   2022 Oct 4, 4:05pm  

richwicks says


So, it's not a democratic republic is it? That's my point.


Right, it's not at all democratic in reality. Only in theory.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/04/16/The-US-is-not-a-democracy-but-an-oligarchy-study-concludes/2761397680051/

Princeton and Northwestern Universities concluded that the U.S. government represents not the interests of the majority of citizens but those of the rich and powerful. "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens" analyzed extensive data, comparing nearly 1,800 U.S. policies enacted between 1981 and 2002 with the expressed preferences of average and affluent Americans as well as special interest groups. The resulting data empirically verifies that U.S. policies are determined by the economic elite. "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence...
76   gabbar   2022 Oct 4, 5:34pm  

richwicks says


So, it's not a democratic republic is it? That's my point.

It is a democracy, in theory, in rhetoric for the purposes of arguments in political theater. Democracy is a blackhole where bulk of the taxpayer money goes to the elites, corporations and the military apparatus, its not for the people by the people of the people BS
77   NuttBoxer   2022 Oct 4, 8:03pm  

socal2 says

Not even remotely in the same universe what is happening in the US today


Just because we aren't there yet, doesn't mean we won't get there. Recently read the auto-biography of a pastor in Germany right before WWII. The similarities in free speech suppression were quite alarming.

Also, you know they've exposed large pedophile operation inside this government and this country since the 80's. Recently saw a thread that said the Satanic Panic of the 80's was a cover for all the abused kids coming forward at the time. In sheer volume, we might be lacking, but given the US propensity for abusing children.. This is a fucking depressing conversation. Just know you've got no high horse by living here.
78   Patrick   2022 Oct 4, 8:17pm  

NuttBoxer says


large pedophile operation inside this government


Right, that's the leverage that can be used to keep government officials in line. They don't get their jobs to begin with unless there is good evidence that can be used against them when needed, like evidence of being a pedophile, literally the worst crime, and one for which you will likely be murdered in jail. Epstein's job was to collect that evidence.

This is standard mafia/gang procedure. If you want to join a street gang, it's a typical rite of initiation that you have to murder a random person on the street. The point of forcing you to do this is twofold:

1. To prove you aren't a cop of some kind.
2. To have leverage over you which means that you can be sent to prison by the other members of the gang at any time.

So maybe most of our government officials are being held hostage to their previous crimes. The most interesting question is who got all of Epstein's files and videos.

OK, there probably are non-compromised people in government, but maybe not that many.
79   komputodo   2022 Oct 4, 8:24pm  

ohomen171 says

Putin Is A Bully And A Thug

Did he steal your lunch money?
80   Patrick   2022 Oct 4, 11:19pm  

Right. How did it become personal?

The same people are not really bothered by, say, Bush's invasion of Iraq.
81   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Oct 5, 8:46am  

I kind of wonder if we will keep the war going for long, now that we blew up NS1 and NS2 leaving us the only supplier of gas to Europe. We basically got what we wanted out of the war... of course there can be other wants there, I don't know anything really, just speculating. But I think if we start scaling war down, it's probably because gas supply was the real goal. This is my personal conspiracy theory.
82   Patrick   2022 Oct 5, 11:09am  

Yes, I could see US LNG interests wanting to sell to Europe and so having our puppet government blow up their competition.

But then there's the psychotic levels of hate for Russia, AKA PDS. That's probably another factor.
83   Misc   2022 Oct 5, 10:36pm  

If our government (or Polish for that matter), blew up the pipeline, we should expect Russian saboteurs to do likewise to LNG terminals either in the US or on the European end of things. From what I understand LNG doesn't react well even to small explosions.
84   richwicks   2022 Oct 5, 11:18pm  

Patrick says


The same people are not really bothered by, say, Bush's invasion of Iraq.


This is the thing that gets me the most, the hypocrisy.

I'd be on the side of Ukraine for certain, if I didn't know the US overthrew Ukraine in 2014. I wonder if people lack knowledge or if they lack principles? I got very pissed off with "mostly reader" because despite being shown Victoria Nuland was picking out Arseniy Yatseniuk as the next leader, he still denies what I think is probably the most obvious coup in history. Is this an inability to put 1 and 1 together, or is it dishonesty? I can't imagine anybody being this oblivious.

YET, I have a business partner that went to MIT, and he can't seem to realize that the "news" media has lied to him. He thinks that Europe will spend a few trillion dollars to develop "green energy" and will therefore be independent of Russian energy. I've worked in the "green space" - "sustainable energy", "ESG" - Environmental Sustainable Governance - it is rife with fraud.

The lack of investigation of highly educated, "smart" people is extremely jarring to me.
85   Patrick   2022 Oct 5, 11:36pm  

Maybe this interview with Aldous Huxley is relevant:

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/the-future-is-now

Maybe the propaganda is much more efficient than we realize.
86   richwicks   2022 Oct 5, 11:39pm  

Patrick says

Maybe the propaganda is much more efficient than we realize.


There's no doubt of this. Just repeat the same thing over and over again, and people will mindlessly repeat it as well, and believe it.

Today it's "safe and ....?"

You'd say "effective"

Just 3 years ago, if it was a Wheel of Fortune question it would be "safe and sound".

Nobody is immune.
87   gabbar   2022 Oct 5, 11:41pm  

richwicks says

The lack of investigation of highly educated, "smart" people is extremely jarring to me.

Educated people might be smart in their subject of education. However, there is a downside to education. While they become smart in their subject, they are not smart and even mediocre or dumb in other subjects.
88   gabbar   2022 Oct 5, 11:43pm  

Patrick says

But then there's the psychotic levels of hate for Russia

If we look at the world numbers, one will find that the number of people supporting Russia outnumber people supporting Ukraine.
89   richwicks   2022 Oct 5, 11:50pm  

gabbar says


richwicks says


The lack of investigation of highly educated, "smart" people is extremely jarring to me.

Educated people might be smart in their subject of education. However, there is a downside to education. While they become smart in their subject, they are not smart and even mediocre or dumb in other subjects.


I realize my weaknesses in my intellect and work on them. I'm just surprised so few other people do.

Initially, I only concentrated on science, but politics and human psychology I later investigated.

But for this "pandemic", this is science. It's true and false, medical papers aren't trivial to read, but they are a lot easier to read than a technical paper. I need a medical dictionary to read them, I'm probably 1/4 as slow as a medical professional, but I can read them. It's just statistics and data.

With regard to psychology, it's natural to model everybody against ourselves, I'm not like other human beings. I wouldn't fall for the Asch Conformity test nor the Stanley Milgram Experiments, but I don't know if that's because I'm aware of them or if this is because I'm fundamentally different. I'm probably an outlier when I think about it. I've never conformed - and - I don't think I ever will.
90   Shaman   2022 Oct 6, 7:24am  

@richwicks said,
“ I wonder if people lack knowledge or if they lack principles?”

Both are true. They lack knowledge and that’s because they lack principles. Look at how quickly Americans were primed to report on their neighbors, fire them for not taking the Holy Vax, and discriminate against anyone who doesn’t believe everything the government says. It was the majority.
The majority.
That’s a democratic vote by the people to do Nazi fucking shit to their fellow Americans based on a quasi-religious belief in the danger of a flu virus and the safety and effectiveness of a vax.

People suck. And they suck worse now than at any time in American history. Fuck em.
91   gabbar   2022 Oct 6, 7:48am  

richwicks says

I realize my weaknesses in my intellect and work on them. I'm just surprised so few other people do.

I like the way you put it, I never thought about it in this way.
92   socal2   2022 Oct 6, 8:21am  

richwicks says

I'd be on the side of Ukraine for certain, if I didn't know the US overthrew Ukraine in 2014


You call that principled?

Have you not seen all the countless videos of joyous Ukrainians hugging Ukrainian troops after their cities and villages have been liberated from drunk Russian conscripts? Is it all fake? Are all these Ukrainians just a minority or secret Nazis deserving to have Putin destroy their world?

What business is it of Russia's what their sovereign neighbors are doing politically? Ukraine never attacked (or even threatened) to attack Russian soil. Ukraine wasn't opening their borders and sending millions of 3rd world migrants to Russia. Simply put, Russia has no grievance whatsoever for waging this murderous cock-up of a war.
93   komputodo   2022 Oct 6, 10:44pm  

gabbar says

Patrick says


But then there's the psychotic levels of hate for Russia

If we look at the world numbers, one will find that the number of people supporting Russia outnumber people supporting Ukraine.

and then there are people like me that don't give a shit either way.
94   komputodo   2022 Oct 6, 10:45pm  

Shaman says

People suck. And they suck worse now than at any time in American history. Fuck em.

true dat

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