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gabbar says
I support it, even if I don't trust Elon Musk as far as I can shit.
The United States can't compete against cheap Russian energy,
The difference is timing. They did it then, US government is doing it now.
Elon has evidently a lot of time on his hands to become interested in Ukraine.
Since Putin has already acted in bad faith, why seek any deal with him?
Elon conveniently forgets that Putin signed an agreement not to invade Ukraine.
How much weed does Elon smoke anyway? Just curious.<
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Booger says
GNL says
You mean in the same way America does this through NATO?
Is the US trying to annex Europe?
We sort of annexed Ukraine in 2014 until Russia flipped out and demanded a cut of the deal.
No way would the US attempt to annex someplace full of white people!
damn it, i was hoping for Ukraine to join as 51st state.
We sort of annexed Ukraine in 2014 until Russia flipped out and demanded a cut of the deal.
What did this rant have to do with attacking Ukraine? Nothing at all.
Putin is deranged; lately he was ranting about the “satanic west”
Note that I'm not saying Putin is a good guy, but bad guys can make legitimate points.
i don’t see how funding this war benefits america. yet our elites who clearly don’t answer to us, fund war and tell us to shut up and obey. thats not representing me, probably only representing MIC. giant wtf
NONE of these wars benefit this country or its citizens.
It does benefit some citizens, for example, people who work in the military and espionage octopus. It gives an excuse to wash away crimes (printing of money which screws all citizens). War is a racket and war does benefit some people. I don't think the military and espionage octopus would keep quiet if Brandon were to pursue a no war policy. I don't think Trump was liked too much by this octopus.
There is no need for people support for wars. Once these fuckers are in power, they do whatever they like.
So, it's not a democratic republic is it? That's my point.
Princeton and Northwestern Universities concluded that the U.S. government represents not the interests of the majority of citizens but those of the rich and powerful. "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens" analyzed extensive data, comparing nearly 1,800 U.S. policies enacted between 1981 and 2002 with the expressed preferences of average and affluent Americans as well as special interest groups. The resulting data empirically verifies that U.S. policies are determined by the economic elite. "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence...
So, it's not a democratic republic is it? That's my point.
Not even remotely in the same universe what is happening in the US today
large pedophile operation inside this government
The same people are not really bothered by, say, Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Maybe the propaganda is much more efficient than we realize.
The lack of investigation of highly educated, "smart" people is extremely jarring to me.
But then there's the psychotic levels of hate for Russia
richwicks says
The lack of investigation of highly educated, "smart" people is extremely jarring to me.
Educated people might be smart in their subject of education. However, there is a downside to education. While they become smart in their subject, they are not smart and even mediocre or dumb in other subjects.
I realize my weaknesses in my intellect and work on them. I'm just surprised so few other people do.
I'd be on the side of Ukraine for certain, if I didn't know the US overthrew Ukraine in 2014
Patrick says
But then there's the psychotic levels of hate for Russia
If we look at the world numbers, one will find that the number of people supporting Russia outnumber people supporting Ukraine.
People suck. And they suck worse now than at any time in American history. Fuck em.
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I have a contrarian view. I call it "The Fear of Vladimir Putin stock market." The Ukraine war has "turned the world on its ear." Energy markets have been disrupted. Food markets have been disrupted. Commodity markets have been disrupted. The New York Times came out with an Op-Ed yesterday pointing out all the awful things that Vladimir Putin can still do as he becomes a cornered wild animal.
This man is simply a bully and a thug. If people stand up to him, they will stop him. This "superman" has failed miserably in Ukraine with 80,000 men and women killed including a massive number of senior officers in 7 months. All his armed forces have failed. His Air Force cannot carry out serious combat operations because they do not have proper communications systems to keep their planes from being shot down by "friendly fire." His Navy is in hiding and will not come out and fight. We see corruption ad incompetence on a grand scale. There are all sorts of reports on the deterioration of his feared nuclear arsenal. How well will it work? I think not well.
Let us go back to the Cuban missile crisis in 1962 and 1983. Mid-level Soviet officers (say Lt. Colonel) had their hands right on the keys to fire nuclear warheads. They both realized the enormity of such a move. They refused to fire. If history is any guide, the officers under Putin will not carry out the orders to fire nuclear weapons if Putin issues such orders.
If Putin does fire nuclear warheads, he will be hit by two US cyber-attacks lasting only nanoseconds. One will take his internet offline permanently. The other will take down his electricity grid for many months. (Imagine being with no electric power for 4-5 months!) Russia will break apart, as the old Soviet Union did.