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That also erases newscums EO, kidz until age 16 are safe for now

Good. Glad to see non-Democrat Californians fighting back.

Unfortunately, the college one is still in effect. All mandates need to go away.

Details of what happened with the bill and why here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-democrat-drops-bill-preventing-student-personal-belief-exemptions-for-covid-shots/ar-AAWeV5m?source=patrick.net

My commentary: The main thrust of the bill was to remove religious or personal belief exemptions for all vaccines that the health department might require for school. Adding COVID-19 to the list was meaningless because in the current legislation there is already a clause that allows the state health department to require immunization in school for any disease they want.

But yes the goal was to force every schoolchild to get a COVID-19 vaccination.

I think they realized that there was no way they were going to be able to do this because the the vaccinations would not be FDA-approved by the time the law would go into effect, and it would be a very embarrassing moment to have to bring this fact to the forefront.

I believe in the unconditional right to refuse any medication but everyone should agree that if there is to be a mandatory vaccine it needs to be approved by the relevant regulatory agency first for its intended recipients.

Please know that while the FDA did approve the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines for adults they never did so for children under 16. And the way things are going they never will.

Turns out those who want the vaccine are not in the least deterred by the fact it is only authorized for “emergency use” while those who don’t want it will continue to refuse it even if it is approved by the FDA.

Was this 'Kill the Children for Moloch' bill? The Globalists usually smile. However, now they frown.

mell says

That also erases newscums EO, kidz until age 16 are safe for now

Was it an executive order? Or just a tweet about plans for the future?

https://californiaglobe.com/articles/breaking-california-gov-newsom-mandates-covid-vaccine-for-children-to-attend-school/?source=patrick.net

The death of this bill does not change the existing power of Newsom’s appointees in the health department to mandate any FDA-approved vaccine they want for school. If passed, the bill only would have made it impossible to opt out of on grounds of belief.

Undoctored says

mell says

That also erases newscums EO, kidz until age 16 are safe for now

Was it an executive order? Or just a tweet about plans for the future?

https://californiaglobe.com/articles/breaking-california-gov-newsom-mandates-covid-vaccine-for-children-to-attend-school/?source=patrick.net

The death of this bill does not change the existing power of Newsom’s appointees in the health department to mandate any FDA-approved vaccine they want for school. If passed, the bill only would have made it impossible to opt out of on grounds of belief.

It was an EO but with this bill stalling and no full authorization for the jabs newscum has sort of rescinded it, or is reconsidering it again after full authorization. The jabs are highly unpopular and newscum is in in the dumpster but somehow wants to run for prez so I don't expect him to enact another controversial EO anytime soom, being the opportunist newscum is. There currently is NO mandate for kids below 16. Schools may enact their own mandates of course. And yes, plenty of assholes left in the state govt and health departments to mess things up, but we will keep fighting. As more data comes out, the tide will keep turning.

It was not an executive order, but who’s counting? He did “direct” the health department to require the vaccine for schoolchildren.

Here’s the official page for that.

Announcement:

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2021/10/01/california-becomes-first-state-in-nation-to-announce-covid-19-vaccine-requirements-for-schools/?source=patrick.net

In order to further protect students and staff and continue supporting a safe return to in-person instruction for all students, the Governor directed the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) to follow the procedures established by the Legislature to add the COVID-19 vaccine to other vaccinations required for in-person school attendance—such as measles, mumps, and rubella—pursuant to the Health and Safety Code.

Also, from the beginning the requirement was going to be contingent on FDA approval.

Upon full FDA approval of age groups within a grade span, CDPH will consider the recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the United States Department of Health and Human Services, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and the American Academy of Family Physicians prior to implementing a requirement.

Again, this did not require new legislation. The plan was to add the requirement under existing legislation. Details here:

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/California-Becomes-First-State-in-Nation-to-Announce-COVID-19-Vaccine-to-List-of-Required-School-Vaccinations.pdf?source=patrick.net

This will be accomplished by regulations promulgated pursuant to section 120335(b)(11), which authorizes vaccine requirements for “any other disease deemed appropriate” by CDPH.

The killed bill SB 871 was about removing the possibility of opting out of not just this vaccine but any vaccine with personal beliefs. Don’t get me wrong it was a bad bill and we should celebrate its demise! Just it had no bearing on whether or not California schools were going to have to require COVID-19 vaccination.

Here’s the full text of the bill:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB871&source=patrick.net

The official word is that the recommendation is still in place, but FDA approval is further away than they had thought:

https://apnews.com/article/covid-health-gavin-newsom-california-sacramento-7e58e25b2d5194979995c864533772ab?source=patrick.net

Undoctored says

It was not an executive order, but who’s counting? He did “direct” the health department to require the vaccine for schoolchildren.

Here’s the official page for that.

Announcement:

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2021/10/01/california-becomes-first-state-in-nation-to-announce-covid-19-vaccine-requirements-for-schools/?source=patrick.net

In order to further protect students and staff and continue supporting a safe return to in-person instruction for all students, the Governor directed the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) to follow the procedures established by the Legislature to add the COVID-19 vaccine to other vaccinations required for in-person school attendance—such as measles, mumps, and rubella—pursuant to the Health and Safety Code.

Cali is an autocracy, they cheat in elections etc. Either way it's the emerging bad data and the continued strong opposition from many families that makes these opportunists squirm. Plus fear of jail time should their be a sweeping change n the political landscape. I think the continuing emerging data will make it harder and harder to justify the jab for any adolescent, doesn't mean they won't try. But newscum wants to become prez so he doesn't give a shit about anything ca atm

mell says

I think the continuing emerging data will make it harder and harder to justify the jab for any adolescent, doesn't mean they won't try.

mell, I know you're in the thick of it. There's a heroic ID doc in the PNW at Kaiser who beat the bushes for myocarditis data for both the original shot regime and for boosters. Links to papers in the Youtube description. Dr. Vinay Prasad at UCSF interviewed her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72sGObYYTuM&source=patrick.net

I’d be surprised if they can pass the k-12 mandate. I read somewhere that k-12 enrollment hit a 20 year low in Cali. Don’t these woke teachers get paid on FTES? Yikes.

Goran_K says

I’d be surprised if they can pass the k-12 mandate. I read somewhere that k-12 enrollment hit a 20 year low in Cali. Don’t these woke teachers get paid on FTES? Yikes.

Yep they do. And there are enough rich assholes that don't trust the govt either so they have been taking them to private schools, and, since the mandate initially also covered private schools, home schooling. The amount of home schooling networks that have popped up here within a short time is astonishing. Needless to say al.ist everybody in SF was accepted by their school of choice due to the low enrollment rates, and the principal of Lowell (used to be best public school) quit to protest the leftards at sfusd. 3 board members were recalled. Most school districts are in deep trouble

stopped “for now”, evil never gives up that easy

mell says

Goran_K says

I’d be surprised if they can pass the k-12 mandate. I read somewhere that k-12 enrollment hit a 20 year low in Cali. Don’t these woke teachers get paid on FTES? Yikes.

Yep they do. And there are enough rich assholes that don't trust the govt either so they have been taking them to private schools, and, since the mandate initially also covered private schools, home schooling. The amount of home schooling networks that have popped up here within a short time is astonishing. Needless to say al.ist everybody in SF was accepted by their school of choice due to the low enrollment rates, and the principal of Lowell (used to be best public school) quit to protest the leftards at sfusd. 3 board members were recalled. Most school districts are in deep trouble

Ah Cali. So well managed. 😂

The absolute best thing this country can do is fund the Students, not the Systems.

Homeschool, Private School, Charter Schools, but choice should be as routine for K12 as it is for Colleges, Supermarkets, and even Churches.

California K-12 enrollment plunges again, falls below 6 million
Dashing hopes for a rebound, K-12 enrollment has fallen sharply again this year, by an additional 110,300 students, pushing total public school enrollment in California below 6 million for the first time since 1999-2000.

AmericanKulak says

The absolute best thing this country can do is fund the Students, not the Systems.

Homeschool, Private School, Charter Schools, but choice should be as routine for K12 as it is for Colleges, Supermarkets, and even Churches.

I had a bunch of teachers in my family when I was a kid.

I was born in 1971, and the curriculum is a joke compared to what it was in 1920.

Public schools are fine, but the problem is that parents don't do shit about oversight, so this is what they get.

AmericanKulak says

The absolute best thing this country can do is fund the Students, not the Systems.

Homeschool, Private School, Charter Schools, but choice should be as routine for K12 as it is for Colleges, Supermarkets, and even Churches.

Reposted for facts.

You know what’s funny.

When I was in Cali, I lived in one of the most expensive counties in the state. I think the school district was so rich, they were a basic aid district, meaning they didn’t take any state funds and they were funded simply by the local property taxes.

The schools looked like crap. Built in the 1970s, dozens of portable classrooms, rat infested. Just run down. On top of that you had a 28:1 student/teacher ratio, probably more now.

The schools in Texas? They look like junior colleges. Huge campuses, well funded facilities, zero portables. On top of that there are so many STEM charter schools, and magnet schools, so many choices. Average 15:1 student ratio.

Where is all the money going in Cali that such a rich district looks almost third world. Teacher pensions and benefits, that would be my bet. What a racket, it seems almost criminal.

Goran_K says

Where is all the money going in Cali that such a rich district looks almost third world. Teacher pensions and benefits, that would be my bet. What a racket, it seems almost criminal.

It is.

Goran_K says

the school district was so rich,

Not so rich because of Proposition 13, mostly old assessments based on 1975 property values. The overpriced homes that recently sold get the headlines, but most of the homes haven't changed hands (and been reassessed) in a very long time.

Many residents won't vote for Junk Fee additional assessments, so there you go.

As enrollment declines, the faulty numbers decline by attrition (retirements) and some school closures. Because of Union Contracts governing who gets laid off when schools close, the faculty is becoming older, with more years of service, and so higher pay and higher pension burden for local districts to meet. Parents of means just op out for private schools, accelerating the enrollment declines.

The public K-12 in these places are in the positive feedback loop of a Death Spiral of declining enrollments, reduced funding, increased cost.

Goran_K says

What a racket, it seems almost criminal.

IMO, until America can get over it's worship of $$ nothing will change. Of course it is criminal. G.R.E.E.D is going to kill this country and turn it into a 3rd world shithole. Government employees still say they could make more in the private sector but the retirement is the reason the choose the be a government employee. Bullshit, they cannot make more in the private sector. In fact, most of them would make less and work more. My mother in law lives on a golf course in SC and most of the retirees there are government pensioners.

WineHorror1 says

Bullshit, they cannot make more in the private sector.

+1,000

Goran_K says

The schools in Texas? They look like junior colleges. Huge campuses, well funded facilities, zero portables. On top of that there are so many STEM charter schools, and magnet schools, so many choices. Average 15:1 student ratio.

Where is all the money going in Cali that such a rich district looks almost third world. Teacher pensions and benefits, that would be my bet. What a racket, it seems almost criminal.

I wouldn't take the other side of that bet. You'd be right.

EBGuy says

California K-12 enrollment plunges again, falls below 6 million
Dashing hopes for a rebound, K-12 enrollment has fallen sharply again this year, by an additional 110,300 students, pushing total public school enrollment in California below 6 million for the first time since 1999-2000.

Community college enrollment is WAY down in California as well, dropping by 1.9 million in two years. But the idiots in charge STILL have a vax mandate for in person instruction and they are now requiring boosters! I think they might get their chains yanked soon just like what happened in the California Legislature over these ten bad bills. The DNC doesn’t want California giving it a black eye going into elections and California lawmakers are even kinda worried about their re-election chances given the hostile mood of the public.

Shaman says

EBGuy says

Community college enrollment is WAY down in California as well, dropping by 1.9 million in two years. But the idiots in charge STILL have a vax mandate for in person instruction and they are now requiring boosters!

Crazy, isn’t it? And boosters are not FDA-approved for any age, by the way! Only Emergency Use Authorized. The only thing that was ever “approved” was the adult (16 and up for Pfizer, 18 and up for Moderna) primary dose series.

Undoctored says

Shaman says

EBGuy says

Community college enrollment is WAY down in California as well, dropping by 1.9 million in two years. But the idiots in charge STILL have a vax mandate for in person instruction and they are now requiring boosters!

Crazy, isn’t it? And boosters are not FDA-approved for any age, by the way! Only Emergency Use Authorized. The only thing that was ever “approved” was the adult (16 and up for Pfizer, 18 and up for Moderna) primary dose series.

Comirnaty was never approved in the United States. Pfizer sells a "vaccine" they claim is the same as Comirnaty but it's not sold as Comirnaty. If it was, it would end the Emergency Use Authorization for all other "vaccine" products and would become the only "vaccine" available.

There's so much fishy shit with this crap, I'm never going to take a vaccine again - unless I end up doing wildlife rescue - I MIGHT take a rabies vaccine then, and those are known to be dangerous.

The evil bit of me kind of hopes these vaccines are going to kill everybody that took it, I'm tired of living among non skeptics. They sheep are going to force us to be taking crystal meth every day, not to improve work output, but because it prevents the common cold or some other nonsense excuse.

richwicks says

Comirnaty was never approved in the United States. Pfizer sells a "vaccine" they claim is the same as Comirnaty but it's not sold as Comirnaty.

That’s something I heard Peter McCullough say on the Joe Rogan show and I had to verify it. I concluded that the thing about Comirnaty not being approved in the United States is just plain wrong. FDA did grant approval to Pfizer-BioNTech to distribute the vaccine in the U.S. “under license” as Comirnaty on August 23, 2021. The other part may be true: if they went ahead with that then maybe the other vaccines that don’t have a license, EUA only, would have to be discontinued because the EUA can only be used when “alternatives” are not available. But there’s another reason for Pfizer-BioNTech to stick to EUA bottles: that “Comirnaty” license only applies to the first two doses for ages 16 and up. So it would still have to be distributed under EUA for children and for boosters. So it may not be so sinister what they decided to do by not using the license, they just wanted to make things simpler and keep all bottles labeled “emergency use authorized.” There may be other favorable legal implications we don’t know about, but I understand that distributing it under license would not revoke manufacturer immunity; that would still hold up under the PREP act. Either way the stuff inside the bottles is the same whether or not it’s called Comirnaty.

mell says

SB-871 stopped!

Postponed until 2023 is what I heard. Won't be a concern for the next school year at least.

I approve this message....we need to stamp out these lefty loonie cockroaches as fast as we can