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Shaman says

rags-to-riches two term mayor of LA

Politics is always a rags to riches story. When do they ever leave public office with a few years of savings extra from their salary? That's why the sociopaths flock to politics.

Fuck this BS. My 8th grader got cooking as an elective that will be online wtf is the point. They are keeping all these teachers on the payrolls that have jobs that don't work online.

Children should learn about real world cooking through Henry's Kitchen videos on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/GFjstQ30RI8

Teach them to cook rice with this:
www.youtube.com/embed/KCPjtDlThqE

RC2006 says

Fuck this BS. My 8th grader got cooking as an elective that will be online wtf is the point. They are keeping all these teachers on the payrolls that have jobs that don't work online.

Jesus... Cooking of all things. That's literally one area where I know the internet would be able to teach your kid better than a physical teacher or them doing it remotely by a teacher probably just grabbing the stuff from the internet anyway. Makes no sense.

My own mom cooked the same shit every week basically, so I was never taught anything with regards to cooking. Self taught myself through the internet and literally now get requests from people for me to cook stuff for weddings and other events. It's a top 5 hobby for me, so maybe that helps me to be into it, but paying a teacher a salary to do that is pure stupidity. There are 100+ really good cooking channels on youtube alone that a middle or high schooler would learn more from. Most the time it's probably the English teacher or drivers ed teacher that takes a culinary class on preparation and cleanliness. Usually has nothing to do with making good food.

WookieMan says

RC2006 says

Fuck this BS. My 8th grader got cooking as an elective that will be online wtf is the point. They are keeping all these teachers on the payrolls that have jobs that don't work online.

Jesus... Cooking of all things. That's literally one area where I know the internet would be able to teach your kid better than a physical teacher or them doing it remotely by a teacher probably just grabbing the stuff from the internet anyway. Makes no sense.

My own mom cooked the same shit every week basically, so I was never taught anything with regards to cooking. Self taught myself through the internet and literally now get requests from people for me to cook stuff for weddings and other events. It's a top 5 hobby for me, so maybe that helps me to be into it, but paying a teacher a salary to do that is pure stupidity. There are 100+ really good cooking channels on youtube alone that a m...

Whats funny is there was a good year and a half he loved watching cooking shows and he like to learn about cooking from us. I just cant get over some of the teachers still getting paid for this online shit.

Our elementary school sent us a schedule with only 3 days of online classes and two days of fucking nothing.

RC2006 says

I just cant get over some of the teachers still getting paid for this online shit.

Agreed. Though I start from the top, at least with my district which had zero preparation for this back in March. I don't know, I live in IL where a F-5 tornado could wipe out our school from March to October, yet they have no fucking plan in place for remote learning?? Yet the superintendent is getting paid $160k for a district with 670 students TOTAL? How was there not a plan for a natural disaster at minimum? I know most are from CA here, what about an earthquake? FL friends and hurricanes?

Most teachers are good, but as with anything they also need to take some of the blame. It's really obvious right now how technically and computer illiterate they are. I'd guess 9 out of 10 students that are say 10 years old right now are going into fields that will required medium to advanced computer knowledge. Maybe my district is small, but their computer education is substantially inadequate. From simple things like email and not including all the email addresses of the class roster for everyone to see. BCC is there for a reason. I really don't want certain people knowing my email address.

Whatever though. We're all union hating ass holes because we point out a flaw in the system....

FuckCCP89 says

Our elementary school sent us a schedule with only 3 days of online classes and two days of fucking nothing.

Fuck that with a capital F. So far we're at full week, but half days morning and afternoon sessions. I'm on a board with the wife of the high school VP and she hinted last night that shit may change still though. If it's anything less than half days we're going private. With half days and no PE, recess or lunch, they're still getting close to a full day theoretically. This 2 full day stuff and the rest of the week basically off is pure shit.

WookieMan says

. Maybe my district is small, but their computer education is substantially inadequate. From simple things like email and not including all the email addresses of the class roster for everyone to see. BCC is there for a reason. I really don't want certain people knowing my email address.

The district around is not small, still there one councilwoman doesn't use bcc.

NoCoupForYou says

If you are teaching my kids while being paid my tax dollars you better believe I'll want a say in what you are teaching them, you fucking cunt you.

Could see a parent logging into zoom anonymously and tilling this guy to STFU.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-public-school-teacher-worries-about-conservative-parents-listening-in-on-virtual-classes

On positive note, crazy shit won’t be said anymore with parents listening in.

Eric Holder says

NoCoupForYou says

If you are teaching my kids while being paid my tax dollars you better believe I'll want a say in what you are teaching them, you fucking cunt you.

With “concerns” like these, this fucktard shouldn’t be allowed to teach dogs, let alone anyone’s children.

FuckCCP89 says

Our elementary school sent us a schedule with only 3 days of online classes and two days of fucking nothing.

In Oakland unified 40% of kindergartners did not show up for their first zoom class.

Might as well homeschool if you have to be home and school your kids. Worthless school districts like OUSD should have all their employees cut to half pay until they can physically reopen. Classes would resume this Friday.

For the first two weeks my kid will have "virtual school" from 8 till 10 am. That's it.
I'm getting soooo much return for my fucking taxes....

FuckCCP89 says

Our elementary school sent us a schedule with only 3 days of online classes and two days of fucking nothing.

They said today that it was an error and the school week will consist of full 5 days... lasting 2 hours each.

NoCoupForYou says

that dude has got to be a pedo. Only 100% pedos are that invested in sexually talking to kids. Even average gays don't do that shit, they don't care. But pedos... that's their whole thing. I wish guys like that could be investigated for shit like that.

"I haveta work so many hours".

Think about a typical 3rd grade teacher. Say she gives two 10 multiple choice quizes a day to 25 students. How long does it take? 1 Minute if it's right or wrong per quiz, maybe 2 if abundant feedback or "Half Checks" are given. 5 hours of classroom intrux and maybe an hour of "other duties" at the school. At most, with abundant feedback, it takes an hour of grading, which can usually done while hall monitoring or in the breakroom. 7 hours of work a day, plus 3.5-4 months off combined holidays/breaks. On top of that, most teachers get at least 10-16 hours worth of "personal time" a month for sickness/additional time off. So a 35 hour week job only 66% of the year, which pays a minimum of $30k for the first year no experience just about any and everywhere, and can easily translate to $100k in 10-15 years.

Gym and Art teachers have no homework, and doing 1-1.5 hours afterschool in a club a 2-3 times a week nets teachers another few hundred bucks a month in pay, in some states it gives them another "step" in pay.

As for spending the entire summer redesigning the curriculum, that's so laughable all one has to do is look at their credit card for vacations across the country/continent and winery visits or a 2nd job as a camp councilor/teacher.

NoCoupForYou says

"I haveta work so many hours".

Think about a typical 3rd grade teacher. Say she gives two 10 multiple choice quizes a day to 25 students. How long does it take? 1 Minute if it's right or wrong per quiz, maybe 2 if abundant feedback or "Half Checks" are given. 5 hours of classroom intrux and maybe an hour of "other duties" at the school. At most, with abundant feedback, it takes an hour of grading, which can usually done while hall monitoring or in the breakroom. 7 hours of work a day, plus 3.5-4 months off combined holidays/breaks. On top of that, most teachers get at least 10-16 hours worth of "personal time" a month for sickness/additional time off. So a 35 hour week job only 66% of the year, which pays a minimum of $30k for the first year no experience just about any and everywhere, and can easily translate to $100k in 10-15 years.

They work about 3-4 hours a day during normal school day. And that's when they actually teach, sometimes it's even less.

Check this email I got from school.

"I will be your PE teacher for this school year! I am truly looking forward to a great school year despite the challenges and circumstances we are going through. I truly believe that we can still have a lot of fun in PE class even if it is done so virtually for the time being."

WTF is the point?

NYC Public Schools are full of teachers and admins with multi-year addictions to drugs, receiving near or above 6 figure salaries to sit at desks in Offices.

Their repeated unsuccessful rehab programs, often in-patient, are 100% taxypayer funded, too.

#DefundPublicSchools #Vouchers #CharterSchools

First week of sitting next to my 8yo. This is complete bullshit, these kids and the parents are getting fucked over.

Younger kids need to go back. Don't know what we are going to do on the days we have to both be at work. The is really hurting the middle class and probably destroying the poor.

RC2006 says

Younger kids need to go back. Don't onow what we are going to do on the days we have to both be at work. The is really hurting the middle class and probably destroying the poor.

That's the plan though. Make the poor and middle class angry. Who do you blame? Whoever can spin it the best wins. The left thinks blaming Trump for this will work. I think it's going to backfire epically. All they had to do was get even a decent candidate and they could have beat Trump handily. I like Trump, but he's an easy hurdle clear with an intelligent candidate. They're now in panic mode and hoping they can shift the mindset on the back of an extremely minor virus that kills people at deaths door. The logic is retarded and now our teacher unions are showing how they might need some "special" education of their own. They keep up this bull shit, they will lose their jobs and they won't come back. There will be a defund school movement if they keep this up. Teachers are shooting themselves in the foot.

WookieMan says

They keep up this bull shit, they will lose their jobs and they won't come back. There will be a defund school movement if they keep this up. Teachers are shooting themselves in the foot.

This is exactly what I’ve been saying. Teachers are exposing their naked alliance with Democrats at the same time they are vastly increasing systemic racism by refusing to teach poor kids. I’m not the first to call this out, and I suspect that it will become a rallying cry in a month or two.

I hope the schools are still open where I'm moving next month so far that's the plan there. CA is asshole.

RC2006 says

I hope the schools are still open where I'm moving next month so far that's the plan there. CA is asshole.

They're going to open and close until 11/4. A kid will get Covid and they'll shut down for 2 weeks because Karen is worried her kid will literally get a virus that is of no harm to them. They need to just pull a Biden with the mask wearing for the next 3 months and just admit what the goal is. They're dumb enough to think it will work. Just let me know and I'll take the next 3 months off because of a retarded plan to take the White House with a disabled candidate and dick sucking, lying VP.

It sucks to have a kid with allergies

"He's coughing and sneezing"
"It's the pollen"
"Nooo, they're all gonna laugh at you! Get him out of here. OMG before we all DIE of COVID! How could you!"

www.youtube.com/embed/-jI93pA7Q28

https://summit.news/2020/08/25/teacher-complains-that-virtual-classrooms-will-allow-parents-to-witness-woke-brainwashing/

"But we're not doing anything, honest!"

ORLANDO, Fla. - Orange County teacher Kathryn Hammond is pleased a judge ruled in her favor.

She’s one of the teachers suing the Florida Department of Education for mandating school districts to resume in-person classes. The judge ruled the mandate is unconstitutional.

“It was a big fight and this is a big local win for teachers and local school boards,” Hammond said. “This gives us a bit of an opportunity to now focus on the local issues that we have and how to improve the school situation at the local level.”

“It was an absolute sign of respect for the profession, for what teachers do and caring for their safety and well-being and acknowledging that they have the right to safe and healthy working conditions,” said Wendy Doromal, president of the Orange County Classroom Teachers Association.

But the fight is far from over. The Florida Department of Education is appealing the ruling, which automatically puts a stay on the judge’s injunction. That means until the appeal process runs its course, the state’s order remains in effect.

We asked our local teachers union president: Why keep fighting if it could take months to get a final ruling?

“Let me tell you why the fight is worth it because lives are worth the fight, because people’s health are worth a fight, because health and lives should trump economics and political agendas,” Doromal said.

The state’s fight is being funded by taxpayers. The department of education confirms more than $600,000 in legal fees have already been spent. An attorney in the case says the appeals process could cost the state the same if not more.

“That money could have gone to schools; it could have gone to people who are suffering because they can’t get their unemployment benefits because of a terrible state system; it could have gone to people being evicted,” Doromal said.
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/orange-county-teacher-celebrates-win-after-mondays-unconstitutional-court-ruling

Public employees should not be allowed to unionize at all.

As a public employee myself--a public school teacher--I have the right to say that despite what many of my colleagues believe, we as public employees should not have the right to unionize. I also believe that public teachers should by law be prohibited from striking (actually, no public employee should be allowed to strike). No other than Franklin Delano Roosevelt himself said he didn't believe government employees should be permitted to unionize. He was right.

Some might say I'm hurting myself by daring to speak out against my own interests. Hogwash. I simply am smart enough and unselfish enough to realize that I hold a unique position as a taxpayer-paid employee. I am presently a member of a teacher's union and while in the business world was a member of several unions, from the CWA and IBEW to the Teamsters to the SEIU. (Only the Teamsters did I like or respect, FWIW.)

I'm sorry, fellow teachers, but our jobs are vastly different from private sector jobs. We are paid by the taxpayers, every day citizens. As such, we owe them a duty to perform our jobs, which aren't the same as private sector jobs. When we sluff off on the job, when we strike, we cause greater harm to the public than does a striking UPS plant or a striking Caterpillar plant or a striking UAW plant.

Every person in NYC who protested budget cuts--as if no one in the private sector is experiencing budget cuts, those NYC employee bastards--should be fired. Immediately. Fire every damn one of them and forever forbid them from holding a public sector job again.

https://www.dbstalk.com/community/index.php?threads/this-is-why-public-employees-should-not-be-allowed-to-unionize.178431/

In Germany school teachers are well paid and well pensioned, mostly tenured federal workers. But that comes at the price of not being able to unionize/strike. Federal employees are prohibited from going on strike.

My daughter is ahead in math n doing algebra 2 on her own knows algebra 1 and geometry 1 already. I asked school to place her from algebra 1 to geometry, they said no. Guidance counselor (pronoun she , her hers) , thats how she refers to self, said my daughter will be with older kids and that's not good.

I told them to test her so she doesn't waste whole year learning nothing. They said they can't test algebra 1.

I will talk to principal but teachers are crazy.

Patrick says

Public employees should not be allowed to unionize at all.

+10,000! I've been saying this forever. It makes zero sense. Just set a prevailing wage rate that is set up your state legislature. Allow elected officials to decide what is a fair rate. A local school district shouldn't have the ability to raise my taxes as much as they do and the goal of the union is to raise those taxes as high as possible to line their pockets in the process.

Also allow bad teachers to be fired. How often does a teacher leave a school outside of a spouse needing to relocate or they literally fucked a student? Once you're in, you're in for life if you so choose. A large chunk of people are not good at their jobs or just going through the motions and teachers aren't exempt from that.

Teachers also shouldn't be allowed to get full pensions until they hit social security age (63? can never remember). Also cap wages with COL increases that match previous years inflation. Why do you get paid double at 55 for the same thing you were doing at 30? Make it a living wage of course, but the last two years of my mom's career as a flipping art teacher she was pulling in about 105k. It's my mom, but let's be honest, that's a fucking expensive babysitter watching your 4th grade make shitty art. She should have been making 60-70k tops.

KgK one says

said my daughter will be with older kids and that's not good.

That's not entirely false. They should support her with extra advanced material, but skipping classes can have negative social effects on the kid. Still it should be the kid's and parent's choice after careful explanation and discussion if the kid is simply too good and would otherwise waste a year. Sometimes they have extra classes for the gifted without having to jump a class.

School called for me to pick up papers for youngest today and I told the teacher we are moving and don't need to. She asked where I'm moving to and said she understands why. She told me told me leadership at the top hates them, kind of caught me off guard.

RC2006 says

She asked where I'm moving to and said she understands why. She told me told me leadership at the top hates the

RC2006, as much or as little detail that you are comfortable sharing,

what school district (or community or county or region or whatever) moving from, and where to?