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Fuck teachers unions

By Shaman follow Shaman   2020 Aug 4, 10:47am 2,823 views   136 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Teachers unions are the primary driver of systemic racism. Making sure kids don’t get an education and don’t get a choice of a different school. The poorer the kids are the worst they are affected and the less education they receive. This means that poor kids get poor educations and stay poor for their lives. If they don’t just drop out, join gangs, and wind up dead at a young age.

Now the teachers unions have managed to also fuck over working parents. People with jobs are expected to quit them to stay home with the kids and homeschool them. Regardless of their budgets of course. The only thing that matters to the teachers is that they get to stay home and still get paid.
Now the LA Unified School District has authorized free daycare for teachers who are parents, so they have someplace other than home (which is where they will be) to send their rug rats so they won’t have to care for them while “teaching online” everyone else’s kids who don’t get free day care.

In my neighborhood there are several gyms which have opened as daycare/schools able to provide daycare for school aged kids with staff who can help the kids with their online lessons. This costs $155-200/week and goes until 3PM same as a regular school day. Working parents who can’t be home with their kids to help them are expected to shell out $650-800/month per kid to “educate” their kids while public schools we all pay for are shuttered because teachers are scared of Covid. But NOT too scared to send their own kids to day cares as long as the school district pays for that!

Fuck teachers unions. Seriously.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/los-angeles-school-district-teachers-000213726.html

It’s in the article, buried:
“Teachers also will be provided with child care.”

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97   Misc   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 12, 1:36am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

Cut the teachers some slack. First, most of them don't want to teach this "woke" shit that they are being forced to teach. They don't want to do actual work (yes, standing up in front of students and getting them to learn while babysitting a huge number of them is work), while the administrators play around with moving paper around especially when tons of the parents ain't working.

Also, they can read the info on their pensions 25% in stocks, 25% in private equity (ponzi schemes) and 50% in junk bonds (also ponzi schemes). They know their pensions simply don't exist.

There is simply no upward mobility available for the vast majority of their students and that's for the ones that can speak English. Added to that 20% of the school's budget is spent on kids with disabilities (don't get me wrong the kids are nice kids but a huge waste of resources).

It's hard to stay positive even without the prospects of job loss.
99   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 24, 7:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Misc says
Cut the teachers some slack. First, most of them don't want to teach this "woke" shit that they are being forced to teach. They don't want to do actual work (yes, standing up in front of students and getting them to learn while babysitting a huge number of them is work), while the administrators play around with moving paper around especially when tons of the parents ain't working.


Please note that I write this as a TDS Left Coast Liberal.

The problem that I have with this argument is that they are not doing their streaming instruction from their classrooms. If they would do that, they would send a powerful message to the students about work ethic, the importance of school, etc. *IF*** you buy their argument that it's all about their safety from germs, - well, an empty classroom is going to be safer than much smaller, confined quarters at home with others. Instead too many of them are streaming from home, exploiting the situation to keep their commute costs down, solve their own daycare/childcare problems, and since no commute and no time spent grooming or dressing for the job or whatever, maybe sleeping a bit later.

Since the gyms are closed I've been getting my cardio by walking in neighborhoods all over San Jose, a city of over one million (probably more if you include the undocumented). I have walked past so many public schools K-12 in every corner of SJ with nearly empty parking lots... maybe five to ten cars, that's all.

Then I walked past Valley Christian High School, a private school in San Jose. Their HS instruction was also streaming only, classrooms closed to students. The faculty parking lot was packed with cars, even though no HS students on campus. It's obvious what is going on: those teachers have a professional work ethic.

What's the difference? Can you say, "Teacher Union?"
100   Shaman   ignore (2)   2021 Feb 24, 10:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

My youngest has been going to school in person without masks all year. Private Christian school, FTW. Only Covid incident was when her teacher got the Covid from a house guest outside of school. She taught a couple days after exposure and possibly while sick, but none of the kids got sick at all. The teacher recovered after a couple weeks.
My son also went in person for a couple months, and his teacher also got Covid from a friend, outside of school. No kids were infected.

So much for the “danger” to kids from Covid at school! And NONE of the teachers at either school got sick from in school contact.
101   MisdemeanorRebel   ignore (3)   2021 Feb 24, 9:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Misc says
There is simply no upward mobility available for the vast majority of their students and that's for the ones that can speak English. Added to that 20% of the school's budget is spent on kids with disabilities (don't get me wrong the kids are nice kids but a huge waste of resources).


Mainstreaming Kids who are older but can't speak a lick of English as well as Special Ed kids is a massive disaster.

Teachers and Schools are forced to spend far more time, resources on them by spreading them across every school rather than concentrating them in a single classroom or, if large enough, a single school.

This is done on purpose to create more teaching jobs and grow the EduAdmin Empire.
102   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Feb 24, 10:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
San Jose, a city of over one million (probably more if you include the undocumented)


Please, let's use the formally correct term "illegal aliens".

When we let them change our words, we also let them change our thoughts.

So it's Wuhan Virus as well, as it was in the beginning.
103   Misc   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 25, 12:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
B.A.C.A.H. says
San Jose, a city of over one million (probably more if you include the undocumented)


Please, let's use the formally correct term "illegal aliens".

When we let them change our words, we also let them change our thoughts.

So it's Wuhan Virus as well, as it was in the beginning.


Hate to tell you this, but "illegal aliens" is a political correct term for them. Now New York fines people $10k for saying it.

I say we go back to the original term "wetbacks" --- at least you don't get fined for it.
104   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2021 Feb 25, 12:30pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
Please, let's use the formally correct term "illegal aliens".


Sorry, I should have said "uncounted" because that's what I meant. Some, maybe many, of those uncounted in SJ are indeed illegal aliens. Many of them are also homeless American born haolies living on the streets, living under tarps and cardboard, the lucky ones living in old beater 1970's RV's. I see them every day as I walk through the city.

You can be snarkey and say they're all losers and their condition is all their fault, that's probably true for many of them. It wasn't my point. They have no residence, no address, and are uncounted in the census (as are, as your pointed out, the illegals).
105   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   ignore (4)   2021 Feb 25, 2:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Misc says
Hate to tell you this, but "illegal aliens" is a political correct term for them. Now New York fines people $10k for saying it.


NY can't fine you for speaking, the moment they fine you it'll be court ruled unconstitutional as there is a ton of precedent.
106   HeadSet   ignore (2)   2021 Feb 26, 5:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Misc says
Hate to tell you this, but "illegal aliens" is a political correct term for them. Now New York fines people $10k for saying it.


NY can't fine you for speaking, the moment they fine you it'll be court ruled unconstitutional as there is a ton of precedent.


True, but understand the State has unlimited resources to go after you. Even if the judge throws it out, you will be out some serious jack in legal costs. Speaking from experience. We had a militant blind old lady sue us because the cab driver made her use another of our company cabs when her service animal jumped into the front seat and licked the driver's face. No private attorney would take her case, but she was able to get a state government lawyer. We "won" with a dismissal, but the legal bill was about $100,000.
110   Shaman   ignore (2)   2021 May 3, 7:31am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

There is no organization which is responsible for more systemic racism than the NFT. They literally took education away from millions of inner city children and then called reopening schools “racist.”
Why? Because they didn’t want to go to work. That’s literally it. They disenfranchised millions of poor at-risk minority kids who are now mostly gang members, just to make sure they could “work from home.”

A more despicable lot of brigands is not to be found in the USA.
111   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2021 May 3, 7:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Shaman says
Why? Because they didn’t want to go to work. That’s literally it. They disenfranchised millions of poor at-risk minority kids who are now mostly gang members, just to make sure they could “work from home.”

I usually keep a local affiliate from Chicago on in the background for news. Chicago is a war zone on pace to get above early 90's levels (worse than bad). There used to maybe be a monthly highway shooting. I hear stories damn near daily now. Nothing to go to Chicago for at this point anyway because not much is even open, but I might not go for a long while.

Before Covid I thought Lightfoot had promise, but she's been an unmitigated disaster for the city. No leadership skills. She lets her ilk run amok across the city with no consequence. There are still good parts of the city, but for the already bad parts to get worse is kind of mind boggling. I think I heard yesterday that a 2 year old was shot and killed... WTF?

Overall Chicago has a high crime rate. You get into specific neighborhoods though it's as dangerous as a war zone on the weekend. I'd rather chill with Muslims in Iraq or Syria. The kids need to be back and the schools normal. CTU (Chicago Teachers Union) is awful. Blacks are the most damaged from it, but even hispanic neighborhood are jumping in crime. You can't take kids out of the structure of school, even if the education is shit. They can't run the damn streets in a high crime city.
112   Shaman   ignore (2)   2021 May 3, 7:58am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

“ As with the economic lockdowns, these blue-state school closures have disproportionately harmed poor and minority children. "The blunt fact is that it is Democrats—including those who run the West Coast, from California through Oregon to Washington State—who have presided over one of the worst blows to the education of disadvantaged Americans in history," wrote New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, nobody's idea of a conservative, on February 24. "The result: more dropouts, less literacy and numeracy, widening race gaps, and long-term harm to some of our most marginalized youth."

https://reason.com/2021/05/02/the-equity-mess/
113   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2021 May 3, 8:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
I usually keep a local affiliate from Chicago on in the background for news


We take your word for it.

You live there, you've lived there for a long time. You know the zeitgeist of the place, you know what everyday people who don't holler for attention are like. We here in California, and the SF Bay Area, respect your insights, your views on the place. You know WTF you are talking about for your region.

But not for California, and not for the SF Bay Area.
114   WookieMan   ignore (7)   2021 May 3, 9:03am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
But not for California, and not for the SF Bay Area.

I'm talking about big cities. Not just CA. Public sector unions shouldn't even be allowed to exist. I know you've mentioned in the past you've worked in/with schools I believe. My mom was a teacher. She was overpaid and now has a great pension. And yes, I could have taught and gotten the same benefits/pay. So it's not jealousy.

The issue most the public has with teachers anywhere is they always say it's for the kids. It's not and never has been. They have the classic narrative that they work X hours even though they have summers off and a bunch of other days off. Kids are literally roaming the streets of big cities right now because the teachers don't want to work. There's no other explanation. All this at the expense of the kids out of fear of a mundane virus.

And yes, administrators are awful too, more so than the teachers. They're just not part of the union generally and just answer to the school board for pay and hours.

Unions are bad for the good teachers and amazing for awful teachers. It's an extremely flawed system where ultimately taxpayers have to vote against their best interest just to get their kids to school. It shouldn't be that way.

Also, I think I'm pretty cordial with everyone here. You don't have to like my comments, and I'm not offended. My style is different. But I haven't appreciated the snarkiness lately. I'm free to make opinions about places on a forum like this. If I think CA is shit, I can think that. I don't, but I'm free to criticize my experiences and my understanding of CA, much of it from here. You have a bona fide recall attempt against your governor. That's no small feat and clearly shows CA is having some issues. Just because you live there doesn't mean it's attack against you or your choice to live there. Everyone has their reasons.
115   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 May 5, 7:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

WookieMan says
Unions are bad for the good teachers and amazing for awful teachers. It's an extremely flawed system where ultimately taxpayers have to vote against their best interest just to get their kids to school. It shouldn't be that way.


Which is why the entire Learning Pod movement is going to bite this racket in the ass, I hope.

https://learningpodshub.com/
https://thelearningpods.com/

Learning Pods are the next big thing beyond home schooling. Because they hire pro teachers...good teachers. Parents pay them directly. COVID has been a blessing for this movement, as it exploded with more teachers and parents suddenly becoming very interested.

Eventually, it would be nice if parents got vouchers they can pay either to schools or learning pods like this. Expect that to be the next big fight.
116   MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou   ignore (1)   2021 May 5, 10:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

The teachers Union must be destroyed.
117   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 May 13, 6:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

https://blog.electkevinkiley.com/the-big-lie/

Here’s a line in the sand I’m ready to draw. I’ll never support any candidate for any office who propagated the Big Lie that opening schools was unsafe.

It’s been propagated in California like nowhere else. Biden’s Education Department just reported we have the fewest fourth graders in school full-time: 5 percent. Across all grades, we’ve lagged behind every state throughout the last year: 50th out of 50.

Who, specifically, is accountable for the Big Lie? Here’s who to start with:

Gavin Newsom. There may not be a person in the United States more culpable than Newsom, whose biggest campaign donor is teachers’ unions. Last Fall, he was one of only five governors to force schools to close; this Spring, he was the only West Coast governor not to make them open. All the while, Newsom had no problem “endangering” his own kids at a private school. He then added another lie, claiming they were in “Zoom school.”

Tony Thurmond. The State Superintendent, whom teachers’ unions spent $13 million installing, has peddled the Big Lie at every turn. When I cross-examined him last October, he tipped his hand that the plan was to keep schools closed the entire year or longer, breathlessly citing “new data” that “COVID could be with us well beyond 2021.”

The Legislature. It’s never questioned the Big Lie. After my “Killing our Kids for Nothing” speech in March, it rejected my Amendment to open schools immediately.

Education Committee Chairs. The Assembly Chair has refused to allow even a vote on my bills to reopen schools and fund students directly, has tried to mute my microphone, and has denied public comment. The Senate Education Chair just insanely proposed that distance learning continue “into the fall and possibly further.”

School Boards. After keeping schools closed this whole year, LA and SF Unified are now scamming the state for millions in extra funding with fake re-openings. SF will let two high schools offer in-person “supervision” once a week; LA has set up a Kafkaesque “Zoom in a Room” for 7 percent of students. It’s time to consider disbanding these farcically corrupt districts.

It’s also, of course, time to oust this historically corrupt Governor. Newsom recently tried to minimize the tragedy of learning loss by calling it “unfinished learning.” Perhaps he’s hoping we’ll refer to his Recall loss as an unfinished term.
120   MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou   ignore (1)   2021 May 14, 10:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

‘She Sucked My D*ck’: Moms Go Thermonuclear Over NSFW Material In Class Reading Assignments

In a series of videos posted by Ian Prior on Twitter, parents read passages from books, including “Monday’s Not Coming” by Tiffany Jackson, which were apparently assigned to 9th grade students in Loudoun County Public Schools (LCPS). This is the same school board meeting where a mother blasted the school system’s use of critical race theory.

“She sucked my d*ck,” a parent read from a text.

Passages from Jackson’s book read by the furious parents included characters discussing oral sex, a female character being beaten and thrown into a closet and a sexual encounter in a classroom. The book “#MurderTrending” by Gretchen McNeil, was also quoted, where a female character discussed the size of a male friend’s genitalia.

“He had a big d*ck,” a parent read in the meeting.

“This is the definition of a hostile work environment,” one parent, holding up a poster featuring a list of LCPS policy violations, told the school board.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/13/loundoun-county-class-assignments-nsfw-virginia-school-board-meeting/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO7WNUbZmUQ

GoFundMe terminated a fundraiser for parents against CRT that was targeted by a Secret Woke EduAdmin Group:
https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/01/open-conspiracy-rights-gofundme-terminates-fundraiser-for-unwoke-parents-targeted-loudoun-county-critical-race-theory/

Keep attacking.

The Teacher's Union Must be Destroyed
122   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 May 14, 6:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Booger says
https://www.rightjournalism.com/morbidly-obese-teacher-yells-at-a-skinny-vaccinated-student-for-not-wearing-a-mask-and-calls-him-a-jerk-receive-instant-justice/



Morbidly Obese Teacher Yells At A Skinny Vaccinated Student For Not Wearing A Mask And Calls Him A Jerk – Receive Instant Justice
A video shared on social media that has been filmed at Poynette High School showed a teacher yelling at a student and saying the teen could still spread COVID-19 even though he was vaccinated. The teacher can be heard calling the student a “dink,” “jerk” and “dummy” throughout the video.

“I don’t care if you’re vaccinated, you little dink,” the teacher told the student in the video. “I don’t want to get sick and die. There’s other people you can infect just because you’re vaccinated. You know what? You’re not a special person around here.

“You should hear about how everyone talks about you around here. You’re a jerk. You’re a jerk. And you need to have respect for other people in your life. You’re not a big man on campus, quit walking around here like you have a stick up your butt.” ...

It seems that the teacher received instant karma, as soon as the video was shared on social media District Administrator Matthew Shappell decided to place her on leave.


Nice!
123   Ceffer   ignore (6)   2021 May 14, 7:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
District Administrator Matthew Shappell decided to place her on leave.

Probably with full pay and benefits. She'll be cramming fast food down her pie hole watching soap operas on the public dime, and go back to teaching later 100 pounds heavier.
124   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 May 14, 9:58pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Here ya go

125   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2021 May 14, 9:59pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

There are people that are truly terrified of Covid.
126   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 May 14, 10:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

She's fat enough that it may actually be a danger to her.
127   MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou   ignore (1)   2021 May 14, 11:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I'd put a five on it, that's it's a Biden Voter.
128   mell   ignore (6)   2021 May 15, 8:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Whale blubber!
129   just_passing_through   ignore (7)   2021 May 15, 10:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Those poor poor feetsies!
130   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 May 19, 10:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

The teachers union crafted CDC guidelines to keep schools closed longer.


https://nitter.database.red/DeAngelisCorey/status/1394997068570169344#m
131   BayArea   ignore (1)   2021 May 19, 10:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Fuck teacher unions

Travesty
132   MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou   ignore (1)   2021 May 20, 11:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      


Among the material associated with a Maryland public school's five-day social justice summer course is a slide that identifies the phrase "Make America Great Again" as a type of "Covert White Supremacy."


The slogan, often abbreviated "MAGA," has been a staple of Donald Trump's political career.

Judicial Watch obtained the slide and other materials related to Thomas Pyle Middle School's course titled "Reading and Taking Action for Social Justice."

"The enclosed materials were prepared to include in the class; however, many of the materials were not shared with students," according to the cover letter provided along with the course records. It also states that the class "took place July 13 through July 17, 2020 and met for 50 minutes each day. No grades were given and no actual work was due."

The middle school is connected with Montgomery County Public Schools in Maryland, a school district that awarded more than $454,000 for an "Anti-racist System Audit."

"The Board voted to award a contract to Mid-Atlantic Equity Consortium to conduct an Anti-racist System Audit for a total amount not to exceed $454,680 for Fiscal Year 2021," the public school district said in a November 2020 release. "The Anti-racist System Audit will provide an opportunity to examine the district's systems, practices, and policies that do not create access, opportunities, and equitable outcomes for every student's academic and social emotional well-being. Furthermore, the audit will provide the opportunity to examine not only the student experience; it presents the occasion to analyze policies and practices that impact staff, as well."
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/education/slide-social-justice-class-lists-make-america-great-again-covert-white
133   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 4, 5:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/second-circuit-rules-vermont-cant-exclude-religious-schools-from-tuition-program_3841255.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

Second Circuit Rules Vermont Can’t Exclude Religious Schools From Tuition Program

The U.S Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit has ruled that Vermont can’t exclude students attending religious schools from state-sponsored tuition programs, striking down the state’s long-standing prohibition on public funding for those institutions.

Vermont’s Town Tuition Program (TTP), one of the oldest of its kind in the United States, provides educational vouchers for students living in towns that don’t have public schools. The program allows a designated “tuition town” to directly pay tuition to the school of student’s choice, which can be public, secular private, or home school in or outside Vermont.

The case was brought last September by families who applied to their tuition towns for funding under the TTP, but their requests were denied because the schools they attend are deemed “too religious.” Their complaint alleged that Vermont Agency of Education and had engaged in discrimination by denying religious schools access to TTP funding.

“The government is constitutionally required to treat religious people equally,” said Ryan Tucker, senior counsel at Alliance Defending Freedom, a conservative legal group representing the plaintiffs in the case. “As the U.S. Supreme Court has held, denying public benefits because of religion violates the First Amendment’s Free Exercise Clause because it unconstitutionally forces families to choose between exercising their religion or enjoying a publicly available benefit.”

In its opinion released Wednesday, the appeals court sided with the suing students and parents, saying that Vermont’s education officials had maintained their discriminatory policy even after last year’s Supreme Court ruling.

“Last June, the Court clarified that this rule does not allow a state to apply a state constitutional prohibition on aid to religion that would bar religious schools from public benefits solely because of the religious character of the schools,” the opinion reads. “The officials who administer Vermont’s Town Tuition Program nevertheless continued to discriminate against religious schools and students in violation of the First Amendment.”

“The Supreme Court has made clear that the prevailing practice in Vermont—maintaining a policy of excluding religious schools from the TTP—is unconstitutional,” the judges wrote.

In June 2020, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Montana can create a tax-credit scholarship program for private schools, even if it would mean that most money goes to religious schools.

“A State need not subsidize private education,” wrote Chief Justice John Roberts in the 5-4 decision. “But once a State decides to do so, it cannot disqualify some private schools solely because they are religious.”
135   Patrick   ignore (1)   2021 Jun 4, 7:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
Another ADF lawsuit!


https://adflegal.org/

They seem like very good people.
136   HunterTits   ignore (4)   2021 Jun 4, 7:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Once again, for any fucktarded libs who don't know what the First Amendment is about:

The Establishment Clause
The first clause in the First Amendment—"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"—is generally referred to as the establishment clause. It is the establishment clause that grants "separation of church and state," preventing—for example—a government-funded Church of the United States from coming into being.

The Free Exercise Clause
The second clause in the First Amendment—"or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"—protects freedom of religion. Religious persecution was for all practical purposes universal during the 18th century, and in the already religiously diverse United States there was immense pressure to guarantee that the U.S. government would not require uniformity of belief.


I other words, the schools can not deny some kid from wearing a shirt that says, "Jesus Saved Me!" to school unless it is tied some form of state sanctioned church or temple or attempt to establish one.

Yet the fucktards in the courts going all the way to SCOTUS have ruled completely the opposite.

In fact, this only applied this to the Federal government until some more judicial idiots pulled out of their asses crap like the above AND somehow that the restrictions placed upon the Feds applied to the States as well, despite the Constitution being very clear otherwise.

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