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Interesting.

Lot of mainstream news people reporting that Cohen was going to say Trump had advanced knowledge of the Wikileaks email release. But Cohen said Trump was told in July, but the Wikileaks release was public knowledge in June.

HeadSet says

Lot of mainstream news people reporting that Cohen was going to say Trump had advanced knowledge of the Wikileaks email release. But Cohen said Trump was told in July, but the Wikileaks release was public knowledge in June.

And Assange teased it in March. Which is why I remembered knowing about it even earlier.

You should definitely try that Jazz.
None so blind as those who refuse to see.

jazz_music says

Take your own advice for once please.

Quigley says

None so blind as those who refuse to see.

Good advice FWM - try one's own advice. And on that vein...

How about responding with that dissertation on inventory from the other evening - the one that someone ran away from - remember ? I do

Still waiting to see what it is I do not understand or know about inventory

Well, if it is Polka music..........

I can haz rayscysm! Rezist! All about da feelz! Orange man baaaaaad! Pelieve mewtwoo! Npc transmission over.
#TDS

They have nothing on Russia so asswipe Cohen talked about da feelz only.

Cohen's final rip off was ripping off Muleface.

He's gonna get no time in return for basically nothing.

If y'all recognize me as the Grand Sanhedrin, I will expel Cohen from the Tribe and forbid anymore Holocaust bullshit from his mouth.

Holocaust, give me a fuckin' break.

"Ohs, yous Honor, I done dids robs da bank because of Slavery and Cotton an' shieeet"

jazz_music says

mell says

I can haz rayscysm! Rezist! All about da feelz! Orange man baaaaaad! Pelieve mewtwoo! Npc transmission over.
#TDS

Except there are 5 felonies that Trump is now implicated in.

But I get it, all the laughter is how Fox makes it go away.

Awesome.

There are exactly zero felonies because it's as good as someone with the lowest credibility accusing someone else of a felony with zero proof. Nothing will come out of it. But the hysteria is pumped up I'll give you that.

Dems thought of a new low.

It’s what happens to party that has no morals. Dems are trash.

Tenpoundbass says

I should be enthusiastically noted, that this is First.

It is the first time a convicted person lying to Congress, was ever brought back to testify before Congress as a Star Witness or any Witness for that matter. Not only that and is the Star Witness in a fraudulent Charge against the sitting President. That is just a rouge for a Treasonous Coup attempt cover up .

So many Ass Whooping too few hands.

jazz_music says

Except there are 5 felonies that Trump is now implicated in.

Which ones, and evidence, not accusation.

CNN and MSNBC are opening all their programs with the "Trump Indictment Dance" by the "Trump Indictment and Incitement Dancettes"!

Of course, they have been doing that every day from the day he announced his candidacy, and they have to be manic enough about it to please their puppet masters.

Cohen is just a bagman and he wishes to have his 15 minutes of fame on Donald Trump's back. So many others do this by writing books, e.g. Omarossa, etc.

The whole thing is total bullshit based on nonsense; the Russians are not responsible for emails getting into the hands of Wikileaks, although it's irrelevant. The emails were an embarrassment because they showed clearly how the DNC was screwing over crazy Bernie and helping its favorite, Hillary.

Nobody cares what that asshole Cohen says and it surely doesn't matter to a voter who just went off food stamps and found a job.

Even funnier than Cohen's one liners were the GOP politicians having the audacity to call him a pathological liar - a fucking politician calling a lawyer a liar and then ignoring the biggest liar in Washington that resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue right now

Talk about comedy, the GOP "elected officials" did it with straight faces and they pulled it off looking sincere (more or less) as well

jazz_music says

Bwahahababab, Jazz thinks he knows the truth. Bwahahabababa

jazz_music says

One laugh after the other or change the subject.

What were those 5 felonies again, and the evidence behind them?

jazz_music says

Except there are 5 felonies that Trump is now implicated in.

Also, what stage in the criminal justice process is "Implicated"?

Tim Aurora says

And Mueller and Rosenstein are Republicans. Why marginalize them when they are against Trump.

The Miami Heat and the Boston Celtics are both Basketball teams, what's your fucking point!?

Kakistocracy says

Even funnier than Cohen's one liners were the GOP politicians having the audacity to call him a pathological liar -

He IS a liar, and was convicted of it, some in this thread are blind to the truth.

....."He is lying in order to reduce his prison time.

Cohen, who was disbarred on Tuesday, is to report to prison on May 6 to begin serving a three-year prison sentence after pleading guilty to lying to Congress, tax evasion and campaign finance violations....."

Do facts matter????

Kakistocracy says

Talk about comedy,

Exactly... the TDS crowd have us rolling on the floor with their delusions..

If he has nothing about Russia, why is this even a thing?

Cohen’s claim that Trump was responsible for sinking the Lusitania was hard to debunk.

What happened between yesterday a broadcasted Freakshow on all networks to today. They decided it would be a closed door hearing?

I'll tell you what happened two things, Trump cut the Summit early and left. And Micheal Cohen made the Democrats especially that Jive Ass Shithead Cummings look like God Damned fools. By all accounts everyone called Cohen a Liar and he didn't have not one shred of credibility. That did not matter to Cummings he had his script handed to him by Lanny Davis, and he allowed Cohen to go through all of the TDS talking points. "If Trump loses there wont be a peaceful transition." What in the fuck has the last two years been? There hasn't been a peaceful transition only a Treasonous Coup attempt from the Left. I hope to GOD the Next Democrat President never sees one single second of peace. I will disown any friend or family that ever votes for those Baby Killing Democrats.
Then after Cohens pathetic closing two minutes where he squeezed in every TDS talking point. Cummings had the audacity to say he believed Cohen, he believes there was Collusion and Trump paid of Stormy Daniels. Even though Chohen himself disputed that.

So Cummings went home lastnight and watched the Kangaroo Court Witch hunt and realized what a lead paint chip eating moron Water Boy he sounded like.
Lanny Davis gave explicit instructions on how to phrase everything and Mark Meadows, and Jim Jordan destroyed the whole premise and most of the Democrats agreed.
That's why they closed the hearing now. So Cummings can say what ever he needs the narrative coming out of the next two days of Lie-Testimony to fit a narrative to Impeach Trump.

That Omar Hand Asswipper was talking about Over Throwing Trump today.

You people are so fucking stupid I hope like fuck you do create the next Civil War. Bring it on, I can't fucking wait when Trump sends in the Guard to mow your sorry asses down and seizes power and suspends the constitution until the Commies are ran out of America. It's his Fucking Duty!

I will not give any Democratic President one second of peace, but will return the favor any way I can.

Michael Cohen admits that Trump did not tell him to pay off Stormy Daniels

www.youtube.com/embed/chsIdvzBbL8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR29NcwV_U-lJzmg2O2v-NvHEcVheP3Oa6-cm48ztNm5ahU8DOuvRAvDPRc

Tim Aurora says

We do not expect anything less from Trumptards

Turnabout is fair play.

AD says

Michael Cohen admits that Trump did not tell him to pay off Stormy Daniels

YouTube took it down.
This is One company, I look forward to the FCC dismantling what is left of them after the mass Class action lawsuit that pretty much any registered republican who voted for Trump will get a share of. Break Google Up, Fecebook and Twatter, all of them after we sue the fuck out of them and put 80,000 useless SJW sacks of shit out of work and on the streets.

Tenpoundbass says

YouTube took it down.

Why did YouTube take down that video of Cohen testifying before Congress ? I watched the live testimony on C-Span and heard Cohen answer "no" to Congressman Massie's question if Trump told him to make the payments to Stormy Daniels. Cohen stated he made the payments even though Trump did not tell him to do so because he thought that is what Trump would want him to do.

Tenpoundbass says

YouTube took it down.

Try this link:
www.youtube.com/embed/chsIdvzBbL8

The above YouTube link worked for me a few minutes ago.

This basically disappeared from the trending social media headlines within 1 day. I wonder why.

Goran_K says

This basically disappeared from the trending social media headlines within 1 day. I wonder why.

Cohen is lying for Andrew Weismann (Mueller's assistant) about Trump telling him to lie about Stormy Daniels payment. Weismann is the criminal here, along with the rest of the Spygate players (i.e., Sally Yates, Bruce Ohr, Andrew McCabe, etc.), who illegally used the FISA process to spy on Trump.

Not even just fake news, but old news as well!

John Dean, the former attorney for President Richard M. Nixon who was dubbed the “master manipulator” of the Watergate scandal by the FBI, noticed one thing Republican lawmakers didn’t do on Wednesday.

As they questioned Michael Cohen, the disgraced former attorney for President Donald Trump, “they didn’t defend the president,” Dean told CNN’s Don Lemon.

“What they did is attack the witness,” Dean said. “That shows a certain weakness and it also showed a lot of concern by Republicans.”

Republicans questioning Cohen “had nothing to offer in defense of the president’s character,” Dean said.

Like Cohen, Dean was a member of the president’s inner circle. He also turned on his onetime boss and cooperated with prosecutors.

Last year, he noted another similarity between himself and Cohen.

“When I became a witness, there was a huge effort to discredit me,” Dean said at the time. “It was just my word against Nixon’s until the tape came out, and they worked mightily to try to discredit me.”

The real difference between Nixon and Trump is that Nixon got elected to the House in '46 , the US Senate in ' 50 , The VP in '52 where he served until '60 and the Presidency in '68 where he was re-elected in '72.

During his time in Office Nixon made a lot of powerful friends and political allies .

Trump doesn't have that political history

So when Trump's friends were asked to stand up for him , we discovered that he didn't have any

GOP members railed against DNC members and railed against Cohen. But I cannot recall words of defense for Trump. Not explicitly.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/watergate-master-manipulator-spots-republicans-100853055.html

Kakistocracy says

“they didn’t defend the president,”

That is because they can't stand him as much as the Dems, he isn't playing by thier rules. Like the dems most Republican scum want to keep making a quick buck exporting jobs, not doing anything about our immigration problems, and in general fucking over the middle class.

Seems General Flynn sure did, for one.

Of course, the McCarthyism of the Media makes sure anybody who supports Trump has their career ruined.

The GOP's Strange Hypocrisy With Know Liars - Trump, Cohen and the paradox of believing proven liars

Throughout Michael Cohen’s testimony this week before the House Oversight Committee, Republicans repeated what would seem to be a simple rule of human nature: Never trust a person who has been proven to be a liar.

“I want everyone in this room to think about this, the first announced witness for the 116th Congress is a guy who is going to prison in two months for lying to Congress,” Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said in his opening remarks.

But as more Republicans on the committee followed Jordan’s lead, that strategy quickly hit a wall.

You’re a pathological liar. You don’t know truth from falsehood,” Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz, scolded Cohen, who then swiftly turned the tables on his interrogators.

“Sir, I’m sorry, are you referring to me or the president?” Cohen asked with a boyish grin.

Therein lies a paradox for the Republican Party. They distrust the fixer who lied to protect the president, but trust the president who himself has been shown to have difficulties telling the truth

By the Washington Post’s count, as of Feb. 17, Trump has made 8,718 “false or misleading claims” while in office. One of the more glaring untruths was revealed by the New York Times on Thursday, showing that Trump had apparently misled the paper when asked directly whether he had intervened in any way to secure a top-level security clearance for his son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner.

“I was never involved in the security,” Trump told the paper just weeks ago when asked about his involvement.

That claim was laid bare after the Times learned about two contemporaneous memos written last May. One written by Trump’s former chief of staff, retired Gen. John Kelly, and the other by former White House counsel Don McGahn, detailed how Trump had personally ordered that Kushner be granted the security clearance despite objections by the CIA and others in government.

Whether it be Trump’s changing explanation for a meeting between members of his presidential campaign — including Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort and his son, Don Jr. — and a Russian lawyer, or his insistence to reporters on Air Force One that he never knew that Cohen had paid hush money to Daniels (checks presented this week by his former lawyer for the repayment of a debt undercut that notion), the president’s own claims would seem to merit more than a touch of skepticism.

But trust, it turns out, is a partisan sport. And the Democrats were caught in their own truth dilemma this week by choosing to believe that Cohen, who begins a three-year prison term in May, in part for lying to Congress, was finally coming clean when speaking ill of Trump.

“I believe he told the truth,” committee chairman Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., told reporters at the conclusion of Cohen’s marathon grilling.

While asking liars to tell the truth carries self-evident risks, in the matter of Robert Mueller’s investigation of the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, it would seem to be the only option. Mind you, for a skilled prosecutor, the truth is out there, and in this case it involves talking to a whole lot of liars to find it.

Manafort, for instance, was convicted of eight felonies, including multiple counts of tax and bank fraud. In addition, Robert Mueller laid out his case that Manafort breached his cooperation deal by lying about his interactions with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Ukrainian-Russian political consultant.

Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign adviser, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about searching in the 2016 presidential election for Russian “dirt” on Hillary Clinton that could aid Trump.

Roger Stone, a longtime Trump adviser, has been indicted by Mueller’s office on one count of obstruction, one count of witness tampering and five counts of making false statements.

That Trump has surrounded himself with this cast of characters may help explain why the president spends so much time decrying “fake news.” If no one can be trusted to tell the truth, after all, then why bother worrying about the coverage of Cohen’s testimony, the Mueller investigation or whether Trump intervened on behalf of his son-in-law obtaining a security clearance?

Though this week’s events on Capitol Hill confirmed that we may never solve what philosophers call the liar paradox, we can at least be sure that if it applies to one liar, it should apply to all.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cohen-paradox-believing-proven-liars-210518118.html