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Trash trucks and contractors in hazmat gear have descended on the camp and so far removed 250 tons of trash, 1,100 pounds of human waste and 5,000 hypodermic needles.
#ToddSpitzerScum
"there is no way we are going to allow Orange County land that is supposed to be used by residents to be occupied by the homeless"
"But I’m not going to intermingle this population with property owners, are you kidding?"
What a douche.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/26/los-angeles-burbs-crack-down-on-huge-homeless-camp-near-disneyland-fearing-new-skid-row.html
I can only surmise that you haven’t seen this homeless encampment that is just outside the Angel Stadium parking lot.
If you have a better solution, there are people listening.
CovfefeButDeadly saysIf you have a better solution, there are people listening.
The church in America needs to stop spending money on giant screens and worship bands, and start taking care of the poor and needy in their neighborhoods. I blame government a lot, but the church is really the first line of failure here. Of course getting rid of all government waste would stabilize the economy, and have kept many of these people from being homeless to start with. And lastly, legalize all drugs. Let the addicts OD and rid themselves of the life they so despise. And lastly, back to the community, engage these people, don't shun them. If you offer them help, you have a right to ask them to keep your community clean. I'm not saying enable them, but at least take the problem head on, instead of sweeping them into someone else's backyard(which is exactly what will happen here).
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Nobody even has demographics on these people. A lot of them are just the "one way ticket" to California vagabonds who are told they get sunshine and a welfare check out here. Of course, the drug pipelines are wide open, too. You can see them coming in with their backpacks along the boulevards.
I watched from by gym window as homeless people parked their junk on a couple of bus benches and simply took them by adverse possession. The people actually taking the bus had to stand a few feet away and run when the bus arrived. I saw at least eight different homeless milling about, and a stack of homeless shit abandoned across the street on the sidewalk next to a supermarket. If you make any kind of eye contact with any of them, they immediately start beelining toward you to panhandle.
The question was, do you remove the encampment and its various health and quality of life issues
CovfefeButDeadly saysThe question was, do you remove the encampment and its various health and quality of life issues
Some good points. I grew up in the Protestant church, my Dad was a youth pastor for many years. I remember a lot of fake people, and church leadership that just wanted to create a group of followers(of them, not God). Those churches might pay lip service to Christ's mandate, but nothing more. If the church was doing it's job, these encampments wouldn't exist, at least not in such a dirty state.
Your question quoted above is incorrectly stated. "The question was, do you move the encampment". Because, as you stated yourself, these people won't stop being homeless because you roust them out, they'll just do it somewhere else. And I for one, disagree with kicking the can down the road. Not to mention the criminalization of being poor.
The church in America needs to stop spending money on giant screens and worship bands, and start taking care of the poor and needy in their neighborhoods.
How much work must be done to care for people who won’t care for themselves? Because that’s the real issue. If you give these homeless their own apartments, they’ll become shit holes. If you give them jobs they won’t keep them and just walk away. If you clean them up they’ll get dirty again. And they’ll be a blight upon anywhere they settle.
A home owner in LA recently allowed mabybe a dozen homeless to make camp in his back yard. They quickly turned it dirty, cluttered, dangerous, and loud. His neighbors are absolutely fed up with the constant noise and disruption, the drug deals, and the casual stealing.
If you truly care about the homeless, invite a few to live with you. I promise you, you’ll change your mind fast.
How much work must be done to care for people who won’t care for themselves? Because that’s the real issue. If you give these homeless their own apartments, they’ll become shit holes. If you give them jobs they won’t keep them and just walk away. If you clean them up they’ll get dirty again. And they’ll be a blight upon anywhere they settle.
That's why they should have low-cost facilities, maybe trailer or tent parks, and everybody needs to work on them and participate and follow the rules, otherwise it's jail time
For all the people who yammer about legalizing drugs, offer the homeless a camp. They have to sign away their legal rights and freedoms, like soldiers do in the military, and subject themselves to different tribunals. If they agree to sterilization, provide them in the encampment with all the drugs, alcohol and cigarettes they want whenever they want provided by government dispensaries on site that are tightly monitored to otherwise prevent diversion. Shelter, food, but no extraordinary medical or emergency care if they overdose.
If they want broader freedom and re-entry, make them earn it through monitoring and meaningful participation in recovery and re-entry programs following at least a year of documented sobriety.
Drugs are in essence extremely cheap. Alcohol costs very little to make, alcohol and tobacco are only expensive because of taxation. Narcotics are not that expensive, and meth and speed are cheap to make. Give them what they want as much as they want...
anon_e0567 saysmell saysand everybody needs to work on them
Arbeit macht frei!
Fucking imbecile. You house the homeless on your street.
I marked it as such and yet it reappeared.
errc saysI marked it as such and yet it reappeared.
That's My Fault. I thought the poster was referring to Spitzer.
By the Power of White Privilege, I shall send it back to Niflheim for the Glory of Vril-Ya.
Except when I refer to Christians as Simpler than children, my post gets scrubbed because someone might take personal offense.
errc saysExcept when I refer to Christians as Simpler than children, my post gets scrubbed because someone might take personal offense.
That's literally never happened on this board and I challenge you show where a post like that was scrubbed because of unfavorable comments towards Christians.
errc saysExcept when I refer to Christians as Simpler than children, my post gets scrubbed because someone might take personal offense.
That's literally never happened on this board and I challenge you show where a post like that was scrubbed because of unfavorable comments towards Christians.
Patrick did it himself, so yea it’s literally happened before.
It was in a comment reply to FortWayne where I suggested that Christians Grow up already and stop acting like children. Patrick said it was a personal attack on Fort Wayne lmao.
CovfefeButDeadly saysIf you have a better solution, there are people listening.
The church in America needs to stop spending money on giant screens and worship bands, and start taking care of the poor and needy in their neighborhoods. I blame government a lot, but the church is really the first line of failure here.
I think you are underestimating how severely difficult it is to rehab the homeless. A local pastor who runs a couple of the programs at Weingart center in downtown LA http://weingart.org/ estimated that about 1 in 25 people who enter his program actually complete it to the point where they get a job and residence(and some still subsequently fail).
Some good points. I grew up in the Protestant church, my Dad was a youth pastor for many years. I remember a lot of fake people, and church leadership that just wanted to create a group of followers(of them, not God). Those churches might pay lip service to Christ's mandate, but nothing more. If the church was doing it's job, these encampments wouldn't exist, at least not in such a dirty state.
Your question quoted above is incorrectly stated. "The question was, do you move the encampment".
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"there is no way we are going to allow Orange County land that is supposed to be used by residents to be occupied by the homeless"
"But I’m not going to intermingle this population with property owners, are you kidding?"
What a douche.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/26/los-angeles-burbs-crack-down-on-huge-homeless-camp-near-disneyland-fearing-new-skid-row.html