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John Bailo says

“Money is like sex,” I said. “It seems much more important when you don’t have any…”

I'd say that it's like a juicy sirloin, after having eaten salad for a week.

Rin says

John Bailo says

“Money is like sex,” I said. “It seems much more important when you don’t have any…”

I'd say that it's like a juicy sirloin, after having eaten salad for a week.

It's funny hearing people that don't have money talking down money. What a bunch a manure. It's not just sirloin steak. It's like going to a Brazilian steak house and having all kinds of steak. So yummy....

E-man says

It's like going to a Brazilian steak house and having all kinds of steak. So yummy....

Oh man, I completely miss those Brazilian Churrasco houses in Rio. Talk about food heaven.

One of my great experiences in Rio was getting in a swim on Ipanema beach early morning, but then, getting out of the client site early (cancelled meetings, etc), going to a Thermas for a shag, but then, finishing the day at a barbecue.

Rin, that $3.6k is per year, not per month. I'd suspect your hobby costs about $3k/mo.

The $1k per month cost fir the Porsche includes depreciation too, on a 3-5 yr replacement cycle.

Reality says

I'd suspect your hobby costs

It's every 2 or 3 weeks, so it's not too costly. Sometimes, if I have an extremely annoying week, I may go up, just to unwind. The hotel is expensed, as there's always some conference/meeting up north.

Plus, dividends re-invest quarterly and our company's bonuses are twice a year.

Normally, a person in my shoes tends to get burned by women, a lot, for time/money/etc, expecting me to waste my bonuses on them instead of buying more equities.

This system of mine has isolated the problem.

I allow them to *friend zone* me and then, I can have those routine activities like going out canoeing, etc, w/o the overhead of an insipid relationship where ppl lie to each other about love, belonging issues, etc.

Since unlike the usual *friend zone* person, who's constantly pining for love or some action, I just simply don't care.

Reality says

Porsche

The Porsche does the same thing as my Accord, it gets me from point A to point B. The Accord is paid off and requires less than $1K per year of scheduled maintenance.

Rin says

I allow them to *friend zone* me and then, I can have those routine activities like going out canoeing, etc, w/o the overhead of an insipid relationship where ppl lie to each other about love, belonging issues, etc.

Since unlike the usual *friend zone* person, who's constantly pining for love or some action, I just simply don't care.

And if she's actually interested in me romantically, I walk away.

Rin, why do you waste time and money on the women at all if you are not even interested in their poon or reproductivity?

Rin, here are some of the things that you are missing:
1. Massive acceleration with dynamic torque distribution enhanced handling. Porsche and BMW charge an arm and leg for it, but Acura is offering it at reasonable price under the moniker SH-AWD. At least upgrade that Accord to a new TLX, which costs a small fraction of what you are blowing on the girls. Winter trips to Montreal is safer with AWD.

2. Unprotected sex with an exclusive partner.

3. Not being timed. A full weekend with one of your providers would probably cost much more. You are comparing timeshare to full ownership or lease. You can get a Porsche for a couple hundred for the day but it is not the same as even a 3 yr lease at $1k/mo.

4. Volunteer house cleaner, and gift shopper for other family members; I.e. A personal assistant.

Rin says

Reality says

Porsche

The Porsche does the same thing as my Accord, it gets me from point A to point B. The Accord is paid off and requires less than $1K per year of scheduled maintenance.

Sounds like the same arguments many have made to you of marriage vs esc*orts.

Rin says

Reality says

Porsche

The Porsche does the same thing as my Accord, it gets me from point A to point B. The Accord is paid off and requires less than $1K per year of scheduled maintenance.

Luxury cars tend to have more standard safety features and meaningful engine power.

Accord is a safe, fine car, but I find Honda's engines tend to lack low-end torque. It may have 300 HP, but you may have to rev it up a bit. I like to drive in the low rpm range even at highway speed.

I hope they will make an affordable sedan with a 5000 lb curb weight and a 600 lb/ft engine. Fuel efficiency does not matter.

Reality says

At least upgrade that Accord to a new TLX

Will do, after another 20K miles. But as you can probably guess, I don't care much for vehicles, aside from their utilitarian purposes.

Reality says

Rin, why do you waste time and money on the women at all if you are not even interested in their poon or reproductivity?

First of all, I'm a heterosexual male. As someone here said, "I bo*nk, therefore I am." I do not believe in the concept that those who aspire to conduct R&D, must be sexless drones.

For me, those relationships a.k.a so-called meaningful associations full of lies and half-truths ended a few years ago. After dating Alanis Morrisette, I was done.

Reality says

2. Unprotected sex with an exclusive partner.

At most, this person will be a '5' or a '6'. There is no way a '7' or an '8' is going with me without the Porsche, the country club membership, and all the other trappings of a young executive. And then, she'll be a high maintenance b*tch. This job has already driven me insane. Why do you think I'm on PatNet?

I don't want to have to deal with that high maint horseshit, after work on a regular basis.

New Renter says

Sounds like the same arguments many have made to you of marriage vs esc*orts.

The Accord is low maint, women are not.

4000lbs, 300hp, SH-AWD, dynamic cruise control with automatic following/braking and lane keeping during the 4-5 hours drive on I-91 to Montreal. I see Rin spending $40 - 60k on an Acura TLX or MDX (the latter has the best crash results among any car not requiring a commercial driver's license) before the year is over.

Edit: just saw your "will do" after posting. Haha. Engineering minds think alike.

I test drove a ZDX. It had 300 HP but it felt a bit slow.

Does the TLX have memory steering? It certainly looks like a very good car.

ZDX did not have the new direct ignition engine. The new direct ignition engine delivers much more lower end torque than previous Honda engines. I just bought a new MDX with SH-AWD. It drives like a sports car despite being an SUV. In fact turns faster than my previous BMW 5 series sedan without dynamic torque distribution. The X6 with dynamic torque distribution similarly equipped would cost close to $100k.

Reality says

Not being timed. A full weekend with one of your providers would probably cost much more.

Actually, I'd spent a weekend with one in Malaysia. No, that wasn't the Tia Carrerre look-a-like.

Here's the closest photo on the net, which bears a resemblance ...

Still, she's quite attractive despite not looking like an actress.

The point is that around the globe, where the dollar takes you further, getting temporary low maintenance arrangements is very doable. I know an account manager in Saigon/Ho Chi Minh city, who's got himself a full time translator/maid/lover esc*rt over there. I don't see him coming back to the UK anytime soon :-)

Rin,

I was not asking why you spend money and time on providers abroad, but why money and time on women with whom you are not planning on having sex or baby.

With more shacking abroad and "I don't give a shit, my way or highway," on top of your career success, you will soon be pulling 7 ' s and 8's.

Yes, that guy in Saigon is enjoying a lease, not paying for a time share or by the hour rental. Not only is she exclusive for him, I bet he could tell her to secure a 3 some for him if he wants to. Don't be afraid of woman. Just because women picked meat heads over you in college doesn't mean you are still at the lower rung now. Men's value increase over time if you make something of yourself.

Reality says

but why money and time on women with whom you are not planning on having sex or baby.

Are you talking about my platonic female acquaintances in New England/New York?

If so, then isn't that obvious? Can you take a male friend to a candlelit dinner and have a dance? Even the gay guys living in Boston's South End wouldn't do that in public, outside of Provincetown.

Why taking anyone to candlelight dinner or dance if you don't want to plough her? Why waste your time?

Reality says

Yes, that guy in Saigon

Come on, we all know that the British and American ex-pats in Southeast Asia are cleaning house with the ladies. That isn't news.

The thing is that on our continent, we have women with borderline and histrionic personality disorders, esp once they hit their late 20s, if they didn't have it earlier.

I don't say a word to anyone unless there's a chance of at least a BJ.

My days are pretty quiet.

Seriously, if a woman is handicapped, you know it's not going to happen, so just ignore her.

Reality says

Why taking anyone to candlelight dinner or dance if you don't want to plough her? Why waste your time?

That's the whole point, I enjoy the food, the atmosphere, the music, etc. That's the difference between being a book smart nerd and a worldly person.

But as for the bo*nk, I'd rather do that Geena Davis look-a-like up in Canada, but then, never have to deal with her again, esp if she's whacked in the head.

So you see, two halves of a coin, I get the general experience of living well and having a great bo*nk without the headaches and weirdness which follow.

Duh, obviously don't waste any time with any women past the late 20's, unless she has a meal ticket from you for having born a child for you.

Reality says

Duh, obviously don't waste any time with any women past the late 20's, unless she has a meal ticket from you for having born a child for you.

Yes, but she'll develop Alanis Morrisette-itis, on the way to that age of 29. It's a continuous, not a discrete function. The good women worth dating, are gone and married during or slightly after college.

Just because women wake up beside you after a date and a night of hard bonking, raging and regretting the insulting rape of their bodies, and demanding palimony, sexual harassment lawsuits, and perpetual mad, cringing guilt, doesn't mean they are bad people.

Ceffer says

Just because women wake up beside you after a date and a night of hard bonking, raging and regretting the insulting rape of their bodies, and demanding palimony, sexual harassment lawsuits, and perpetual mad, cringing guilt, doesn't mean they are bad people.

Thanks for this keen insight.

Rin says

I do not believe in the concept that those who aspire to conduct R&D, must be sexless drones.

There's a reason some people are in R&D...

Exactly. In a eusocial society, some are worker bees, some are reproductive bees.

New Renter says

Rin says

I do not believe in the concept that those who aspire to conduct R&D, must be sexless drones.

There's a reason some people are in R&D...

I'm looking at Tony Starks instead ...

or his father, Howard Hughes (the real Howard Starks) ...

Reality says

Exactly. In a eusocial society, some are worker bees, some are reproductive bees.

Oh they still have a choice. The two people I showed above might well be a happy couple with lots of kids.

As to what those kids look like I've seen plenty of examples of goofy looking offspring of uberhottie parents (assuming no straying) and some damn fine looking kids from seriously goofy looking parents.

Phenotypes are funny things.

Rin says

I'm looking at Tony Starks instead ...

What, no Elon Musk?

New Renter says

Rin says

I'm looking at Tony Starks instead ...

What, no Elon Musk?

Nah, another Larry Ellison type, big talker who thinks that he's clairvoyant.

But to give Larry some credit, he did envision the whole online streaming world, over 20 years ago. It's just that Oracle's platform mix wasn't what made it happen.

Rin,
Howard Hughes was married 2 or 3 times in his life. The last one lasted nearly a decade and half after dating the girl for a decade. The divorce resulted in the equivalent of about $2mil per year in alimony payment to her (70,000 per year in 1971 dollars)

Reality says

The divorce resulted in the equivalent of about $2mil per year in alimony payment to her (70,000 per year in 1971 dollars)

Well, Howie's a mega-billionaire (over $25 billion in today's dollars?) so what's a few million, here and there, for him.

So I guess keeping a call girl or Sugar Baby, in let's say Singapore or Rio, would be a lot cheaper.

As early as the 1930s, Hughes displayed signs of mental illness, primarily obsessive-compulsive disorder. Close friends reported that he was obsessed with the size of peas, one of his favorite foods, and used a spCD. He also had terrible pains in his later years due to injuries sustained in several plane crashes through his life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Hughes

How much of his engineering success was due to his extreme "attention to detail"?

New Renter says

He also had terrible pains in his later years due to injuries sustained in several plane crashes through his life

New Renter says

Hughes displayed signs of mental illness

Hey, this is familiar, I'm developing signs of mental illness, as a result of working in financial services.

Ppl are either born a game show host or not. I think when a former STEM person goes into BS artistry, part of him starts to discombobulate.

Rin says

New Renter says

He also had terrible pains in his later years due to injuries sustained in several plane crashes through his life

New Renter says

Hughes displayed signs of mental illness

Hey, this is familiar, I'm developing signs of mental illness, as a result of working in financial services.

Ppl are either born a game show host or not. I think when a former STEM person goes into BS artistry, part of him starts to discombobulate.

That would explain most professors and CEO's

Peter P says

I test drove a ZDX. It had 300 HP but it felt a bit slow.

Does the TLX have memory steering? It certainly looks like a very good car.

300 HP is"a bit slow". Peter P says

Luxury cars tend to have more standard safety features and meaningful engine power.

Jesus you guys are funny!

300 HP (same rating as a WWII Panzer TANK!) isn't enough? Standard safety ratings on even the cheapest econobox that make a 1970's Oldsmobile look like a deathtrap isn't enough?

Yes AWD is a fine idea but no, you don't need it.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/06/05/finnish-fantastic-1963-volvo-p1800-rally-car/

Real men get by with 100HP or less, live rear axle, and skinny tires.