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Why taking anyone to candlelight dinner or dance if you don't want to plough her? Why waste your time?

Reality says

Yes, that guy in Saigon

Come on, we all know that the British and American ex-pats in Southeast Asia are cleaning house with the ladies. That isn't news.

The thing is that on our continent, we have women with borderline and histrionic personality disorders, esp once they hit their late 20s, if they didn't have it earlier.

I don't say a word to anyone unless there's a chance of at least a BJ.

My days are pretty quiet.

Seriously, if a woman is handicapped, you know it's not going to happen, so just ignore her.

Reality says

Why taking anyone to candlelight dinner or dance if you don't want to plough her? Why waste your time?

That's the whole point, I enjoy the food, the atmosphere, the music, etc. That's the difference between being a book smart nerd and a worldly person.

But as for the bo*nk, I'd rather do that Geena Davis look-a-like up in Canada, but then, never have to deal with her again, esp if she's whacked in the head.

So you see, two halves of a coin, I get the general experience of living well and having a great bo*nk without the headaches and weirdness which follow.

Duh, obviously don't waste any time with any women past the late 20's, unless she has a meal ticket from you for having born a child for you.

Reality says

Duh, obviously don't waste any time with any women past the late 20's, unless she has a meal ticket from you for having born a child for you.

Yes, but she'll develop Alanis Morrisette-itis, on the way to that age of 29. It's a continuous, not a discrete function. The good women worth dating, are gone and married during or slightly after college.

Just because women wake up beside you after a date and a night of hard bonking, raging and regretting the insulting rape of their bodies, and demanding palimony, sexual harassment lawsuits, and perpetual mad, cringing guilt, doesn't mean they are bad people.

Ceffer says

Just because women wake up beside you after a date and a night of hard bonking, raging and regretting the insulting rape of their bodies, and demanding palimony, sexual harassment lawsuits, and perpetual mad, cringing guilt, doesn't mean they are bad people.

Thanks for this keen insight.

Rin says

I do not believe in the concept that those who aspire to conduct R&D, must be sexless drones.

There's a reason some people are in R&D...

Exactly. In a eusocial society, some are worker bees, some are reproductive bees.

New Renter says

Rin says

I do not believe in the concept that those who aspire to conduct R&D, must be sexless drones.

There's a reason some people are in R&D...

I'm looking at Tony Starks instead ...

or his father, Howard Hughes (the real Howard Starks) ...

Reality says

Exactly. In a eusocial society, some are worker bees, some are reproductive bees.

Oh they still have a choice. The two people I showed above might well be a happy couple with lots of kids.

As to what those kids look like I've seen plenty of examples of goofy looking offspring of uberhottie parents (assuming no straying) and some damn fine looking kids from seriously goofy looking parents.

Phenotypes are funny things.

Rin says

I'm looking at Tony Starks instead ...

What, no Elon Musk?

New Renter says

Rin says

I'm looking at Tony Starks instead ...

What, no Elon Musk?

Nah, another Larry Ellison type, big talker who thinks that he's clairvoyant.

But to give Larry some credit, he did envision the whole online streaming world, over 20 years ago. It's just that Oracle's platform mix wasn't what made it happen.

Rin,
Howard Hughes was married 2 or 3 times in his life. The last one lasted nearly a decade and half after dating the girl for a decade. The divorce resulted in the equivalent of about $2mil per year in alimony payment to her (70,000 per year in 1971 dollars)

Reality says

The divorce resulted in the equivalent of about $2mil per year in alimony payment to her (70,000 per year in 1971 dollars)

Well, Howie's a mega-billionaire (over $25 billion in today's dollars?) so what's a few million, here and there, for him.

So I guess keeping a call girl or Sugar Baby, in let's say Singapore or Rio, would be a lot cheaper.

As early as the 1930s, Hughes displayed signs of mental illness, primarily obsessive-compulsive disorder. Close friends reported that he was obsessed with the size of peas, one of his favorite foods, and used a spCD. He also had terrible pains in his later years due to injuries sustained in several plane crashes through his life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Hughes

How much of his engineering success was due to his extreme "attention to detail"?

New Renter says

He also had terrible pains in his later years due to injuries sustained in several plane crashes through his life

New Renter says

Hughes displayed signs of mental illness

Hey, this is familiar, I'm developing signs of mental illness, as a result of working in financial services.

Ppl are either born a game show host or not. I think when a former STEM person goes into BS artistry, part of him starts to discombobulate.

Rin says

New Renter says

He also had terrible pains in his later years due to injuries sustained in several plane crashes through his life

New Renter says

Hughes displayed signs of mental illness

Hey, this is familiar, I'm developing signs of mental illness, as a result of working in financial services.

Ppl are either born a game show host or not. I think when a former STEM person goes into BS artistry, part of him starts to discombobulate.

That would explain most professors and CEO's

Peter P says

I test drove a ZDX. It had 300 HP but it felt a bit slow.

Does the TLX have memory steering? It certainly looks like a very good car.

300 HP is"a bit slow". Peter P says

Luxury cars tend to have more standard safety features and meaningful engine power.

Jesus you guys are funny!

300 HP (same rating as a WWII Panzer TANK!) isn't enough? Standard safety ratings on even the cheapest econobox that make a 1970's Oldsmobile look like a deathtrap isn't enough?

Yes AWD is a fine idea but no, you don't need it.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/06/05/finnish-fantastic-1963-volvo-p1800-rally-car/

Real men get by with 100HP or less, live rear axle, and skinny tires.

I don't care too much about horsepower but low-end torque is very important. I need good acceleration in the 30-70 mph range for the comfort factor.

Safety features like adaptive xenon headlights, auto-braking, blind spot monitor, and all-around cameras should be standard by now.

Besides, you cannot beat the law of physics. The safest car is still one with the heft.

Peter P says

I don't care too much about horsepower but low-end torque is very important. I need good acceleration in the 30-70 mph range for the comfort factor.

Fine, get a diesel. Or an electric.

Or a diesel-electric if and when they become available:

...it possesses supreme torque when a 2.4-liter diesel kicks in, with an additional 215 hp and 324 lb-ft of torque joining the 70 hp and 148 lb-ft already on tap, courtesy of the electric motor mounted between its rear wheels.

http://www.cartalk.com/blogs/jamie-lincoln-kitman/volvo-v60-diesel-hybrid-%E2%80%9Cit%E2%80%9D-car-isn%E2%80%99t

Overkill? Yes, but its a start.

Peter P says

Besides, you cannot beat the law of physics. The safest car is still one with the heft.

If that's all you care about, get a Hummer. Fuck everyone else on the road - your life is more important than of a Civic driver!

Heft also works aganst your ability to manuver and brake, you know, those things that keep you out of the collision in the first place.

Harsh? yes, but the arms race of bigger cars make everyone else LESS safe, not more.

Peter P says

I don't care too much about horsepower but low-end torque is very important. I need good acceleration in the 30-70 mph range for the comfort factor.

Safety features like adaptive xenon headlights, auto-braking, blind spot monitor, and all-around cameras should be standard by now.

Once self driving cars become common none of this will matter anyway. All the car will need is enough power to hit 80MPH with the A/C cranked, e.g. a 0.8L 50-40HP turbodiesel-electric drivetrain.

New Renter says

Hughes displayed signs of mental illness

Rin says

Hey, this is familiar, I'm developing signs of mental illness, as a result of working in financial services.

Ppl are either born a game show host or not. I think when a former STEM person goes into BS artistry, part of him starts to discombobulate.

New Renter says

That would explain most professors and CEO's

Aside from posting on PatNet & eating well, the only other relief that I get during the day, is to recall a pair of b**bs, smothering my face while listening to Metallica's "Fade to Black".

http://www.youtube.com/embed/WEQnzs8wl6E

Finding and marrying a good woman is a singular achievement after a certain age. It takes time and persistence to sort through the dross of average or below average females. Here are some things on my list of must-haves:
1)intelligence: this is an inheritable quality, and I wanted smart kids. Also dumb or even average int women bored me outside the bedroom.
2)educated: if she's not, she will rely on you for a meal ticket for life.
3)motivated/self driven: lazy women need not apply. This is also an inheritable quality, and I didn't want lazy or unmotivated children.
4)moral: overly selfish or malicious women are a pox on mankind. I wanted someone who'd be reliable, tell the truth, and make correct choices.
5)sense of humor intact: without this, the rest of those qualities make their personality too brittle to sustain the hard knocks life will dish out.
6) athletic: caring for ones health and body is a basic tenet of mental health. Who wants to be with the woman who gets married and lets herself go?
7)at least pretty. Beauty is also often inherited. And I like pretty girls.

I guess I got lucky. We've been married now almost ten years, and she's way better than just pretty.

New Renter says

Once self driving cars become common none of this will matter anyway. All the car will need is enough power to hit 80MPH with the A/C cranked, e.g. a 0.8L 50-40HP turbodiesel-electric drivetrain.

Can't wait for self-driving cars. I hate driving.

BTW, with automation, cars can form trains, which should help overcoming aerodynamic resistance. We may see speeds faster than 80 mph.

Perhaps each unit can even draw electricity from some third-rail along selected trunk routes.

Quigley says

1)intelligence: this is an inheritable quality, and I wanted smart kids. Also dumb or even average int women bored me outside the bedroom.

2)educated: if she's not, she will rely on you for a meal ticket for life.

3)motivated/self driven: lazy women need not apply. This is also an inheritable quality, and I didn't want lazy or unmotivated children.

4)moral: overly selfish or malicious women are a pox on mankind. I wanted someone who'd be reliable, tell the truth, and make correct choices.

5)sense of humor intact: without this, the rest of those qualities make their personality too brittle to sustain the hard knocks life will dish out.

6) athletic: caring for ones health and body is a basic tenet of mental health. Who wants to be with the woman who gets married and lets herself go?

7)at least pretty. Beauty is also often inherited. And I like pretty girls.

1. Intelligence is an arbitrary measure designed by "intelligent" people to make themselves feel better. Wisdom is more desirable.

2. Over-educated people are unbearable. A good balance of knowledge and epistemic humility is important.

3. Motivation is a good thing to have. I agree.

4. Morality is an arbitrary measure designed by "moral" people to make themselves feel better. A good understanding of meta-ethics is more useful.

5. A good sense of humor is the best quality a woman can possess. It is a true sign of "intelligence."

6. Health and fitness? Of course. When the future self-driving car has only 40 hp, a fat ass will render the primary mode of transportation useless.

7. Yes, an eye-candy is better than an eye-sore. :-)

Quigley says

We've been married now almost ten years, and she's way better than just pretty.

Sounds like you were married at a young age and for many guys, that's about all the time one has to find a decent spouse.

Peter P says

New Renter says

Once self driving cars become common none of this will matter anyway. All the car will need is enough power to hit 80MPH with the A/C cranked, e.g. a 0.8L 50-40HP turbodiesel-electric drivetrain.

Can't wait for self-driving cars. I hate driving.

BTW, with automation, cars can form trains, which should help overcoming aerodynamic resistance. We may see speeds faster than 80 mph.

I chose 80 MPH somewhat arbitrarily but yes faster is better if it can be done safely.

(I hate driving too, at least the commuting kind)

Peter P says

Perhaps each unit can even draw electricity from some third-rail along selected trunk routes.

Like this?

When the future self-driving car has only 40 hp, a fat ass will render the primary mode of transportation useless.

The original self driver gets along with just ONE horsepower, fat ass and all:

Rin says

Quigley says

We've been married now almost ten years, and she's way better than just pretty.

Sounds like you were married at a young age and for many guys, that's about all the time one has to find a decent spouse.

28, I guess that's young. Not real young tho.

We have three ridiculously great kids, all smart and beautiful. I'm sure we are lucky with the hand we were dealt, but I did stack the deck a fair bit.

I've never been to NYC, but I have to imagine the women there are not representative of the temperament of the average woman. Social climbers and grasping aging beauty queens alongside selfish careerists.
On the other hand, all the Canadian women I've known have seemed like real catches, well balanced and caring, sense of humor. Maybe you're onto something with your forays North of the border. Im sure their call girls are great, but maybe you could try meeting women there who aren't prostitutes?

Quigley says

Social climbers and grasping aging beauty queens alongside selfish careerists.

NYC may be the nerve center, ala 'Sex In The City' mecca, but it's kinda an all around phenomena in the northeast corridor. And the guys who're cued in, will marry the good ones, meaning ones who are sane and not into *bad boys*, long before they become toxic avengers.

Quigley says

Im sure their call girls are great, but maybe you could try meeting women there who aren't prostitutes?

Yes, this is a possibility, however, I'd ended up with an Alanis Morrisette type, instead. Since esc*rting is legal, my time is better spent simply enjoying an '8' than in dating a '5', looking for Ms Right.

I'm not sure why you'd waste time chasing a 5? Unless she was just the most awesome person ever. I've actually met that girl, and she was happily married. She's still the most sparkling personality I know. But a five, no more.
It's been a while, but I found the hotter chicks to be easier to approach. Yah they get hit on a lot, but it's mostly by guys who aren't what they are looking for. I'm always amazed at how many 8-9 guys are with 4-5 girls. I'd say it's somewhere between lack of confidence and unwillingness to get out there and take risks. Faint heart never won fair lady...

Here's the thing, after a certain age, many of the women, regardless of the 5 to 8 scale (whatever that is), are damaged goods and not worth getting involved with. The chances are, however, that a 5 or 6, will be willing to at least play 'normal', until the relationship crumbles.

Those esc*rts I'd listed, are basically all 8s or above. And thus, I'm not really concerned so much about whether or not Geena Davis is hotter than Jennifer Connelly or Tia Carrerre vs Kelly Hu. The point is that I'm a satisfied customer with a happy experience.

New Renter says

Heft also works aganst your ability to manuver and brake, you know, those things that keep you out of the collision in the first place.

Something like a BMW 760Li (~5000 lb curb weight, 550 lb/ft torque) will have the right balance of active and passive safety. They just need to something less luxury and more affordable. With a big engine, well-designed suspension, oversized tires, and good brakes a heavy car can still have good handling.

New Renter says

Fuck everyone else on the road - your life is more important than of a Civic driver!

Well, anyone who does not value his own life is delusional.

Peter P says

New Renter says

Heft also works aganst your ability to manuver and brake, you know, those things that keep you out of the collision in the first place.

Something like a BMW 760Li (~5000 lb curb weight, 550 lb/ft torquPoPe) will have the right balance of active and passive safety. They just need to something less luxury and more affordable. With a big engine, well-designed suspension, oversized tires, and good brakes a heavy car can still have good handling.

Sure if you have $141k to spend and don't mind sponsoring radial islamic terrorists and funding middle east conflicts with its 13/20 MPG.

Peter P says

New Renter says

Fuck everyone else on the road - your life is more important than of a Civic driver!

Well, anyone who does not value his own life is delusional.

Maybe you shouldn't drive at all then. Better yet don't even leave the house. The world is just too dangerous. Just stay in your basement, better yet a bomb shelter if you have one. You can get whatever you need off Amazon.

New Renter says

You can get whatever you need off Amazon.

I like Google Shopping Express better. Same day delivery. It even goes to Costco for you.

I am also switching my video streaming from Amazon to Google Play. Chromecast is just amazing.

Hopefully the Google Car will be ready soon. Humans cannot be trusted to drive.

Rin says

"here are the look-a-likes of famous women I'd done ....

Lauren Hutton

Stephanie Powers

Charlize Theron (larger bust than the real actress) --- this one was a perfect '10'

Jennifer Lopez

Tia Carrere

Geena Davis

Sofia Vergara

Kelly Hu

Jennifer Connelly

Karen Gillan

Olivia Newton John (w/ some baby fat)

I'm now searching for an Olivia Wilde."

Hey if you're up for suggestions I'll add one to the

Rin Challenge "To Do" list:

Markie Post, 1970-1990

I heard pole-dancing is going Olympic. (Or was that satirical?)