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Starmer reveals Plan to save Ukraine


               
2025 Mar 2, 9:50pm   242 views  12 comments

by TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   follow (9)  

BREAKING:

Starmer presents Europe’s 4 point plan:

1. More military aid for 🇺🇦 & sanctions on 🇷🇺
2. Lasting peace must ensure 🇺🇦’s sovereignty & security
3. After a peace deal, 🇪🇺 will continue boosting 🇺🇦’s defense capabilities
4. 🇪🇺 peacekeeping forces in 🇺🇦 with 🇺🇸 support

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1896286667075711412

Gee, #4 mentions a country not in Europe giving support to 'forces' So "Europe's Plan" requires US participation, huh.

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1   Ceffer   2025 Mar 2, 10:08pm  

Fuck that stupid plan. The Euros want the criminal enterprise value of Ukraine to remain as an intact infrastructure for the bloodlines and Royals, and the Dems as a ongoing laundering apparatus.
2   SharkyP   2025 Mar 3, 4:29am  

Seems to me it’s actually a plan to extend the war indefinitely. Putin will not settle for a plan with European troopsin Ukraine.
3   clambo   2025 Mar 3, 8:17am  

Haven't you guys been paying attention to Putin? He's the one asking to "make a deal to stop the war."

Russia has been getting its ass kicked; probably 840,000 casualties and growing, tens of thousands of tanks and trucks, and he is sending conscripts in as cannon fodder.

Russia no longer is a professional army; those guys are mostly dead or gone.

Norway and the USA could end this war very quickly; Norway can pay for a bunch of missiles and the USA can send them to Ukraine. Norway has 1.74 trillion (1trillion=1,000 billion) in its sovereign wealth fund.

The longer the war lasts, the more it hurts Putin, not Ukraine.
4   AD   2025 Mar 3, 9:10am  

SharkyP says

Seems to me it’s actually a plan to extend the war indefinitely. Putin will not settle for a plan with European troopsin Ukraine.


I realize this is Trump's deal making strategy (all part of his Art of the Deal paradigm). So what does Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov and Putin agree to, foreign troops from South America or other non NATO countries ? The Philippines, Australia and New Zealand are not NATO countries.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/24/us-news/trump-says-putin-agreed-to-european-peacekeeping-troops-in-ukraine-he-has-no-problem-with-it/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-russia-ukraine-macron-european-peacekeepers-kremlin-moscow-rcna193588

"Lavrov said that “the deployment of troops ... [from] NATO countries, but under a foreign flag, under the flag of the European Union or under national flags ... is, of course, unacceptable to us.”
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5   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Mar 3, 9:25am  

The entire POINT of Putin's invasion is to prevent NATO, EU, or other troops in Ukraine.

The HRE2 isn't stupid, they know this, so these recommendations are for increased tensions.

The end goal being, at the least, to keep the US entangled and paying for European defense to free up cash for the Deep State. Which is HQ'd in Europe (Club of Rome, WEF, etc.)
6   AD   2025 Mar 3, 10:24am  

AmericanKulak says

The end goal being, at the least, to keep the US entangled and paying for European defense to free up cash for the Deep State. Which is HQ'd in Europe (Club of Rome, WEF, etc.)


I see Trump saying essentially Fuck You and setting a precedence like no more Biden Admin transfer of $50 billion per year to Ukraine

Such as Trump would transfer $20 billion (instead of $50 billion) for 2025

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7   AD   2025 Mar 3, 11:21am  

AmericanKulak says

The entire POINT of Putin's invasion is to prevent NATO, EU, or other troops in Ukraine.


I thought Putin invaded to stop Ukraine from joining NATO and also because they wanted to stop Ukraine from attacking Donbas.

Putin never mentioned about foreign troops in Ukraine other than NATO troops.

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8   zzyzzx   2025 Mar 3, 11:32am  

Isn't this one of the goals of Trump, which is to get Europe to pay up?
9   Ceffer   2025 Mar 3, 11:41am  

AD says


Such as Trump would transfer $20 billion (instead of $50 billion) for 2025

Trump can't pay Ukraine without paying our domestic laundering treasonistas as well by wash back, unless he has scotched the laundering apparatus somehow. Ukraine is a hotbed of mercenaries and spy training as well. One of the foreign teams involved the Trump Pennsylvania assassination was Ukrainian.

Those billions wind up putting weapons in the hands of the cartels through black market graft, too, arming our enemies directly on the border.
10   AD   2025 Mar 3, 11:53am  

Ceffer says

Trump can't pay Ukraine without paying our domestic laundering treasonistas as well by wash back, unless he has scotched the laundering apparatus somehow. Ukraine is a hotbed of mercenaries and spy training as well. One of the foreign teams involved the Trump Pennsylvania assassination was Ukrainian.


Yep: https://nypost.com/2025/02/27/us-news/would-be-trump-assassin-thomas-matthew-crooks-may-have-had-accomplice-data-shows/

I understand such as the ~$38 billion in 2023 from USAID to Ukraine likely had a lot of "pass throughs" such as American based NGO's which funnel money to AntiFa and left wing militant groups like Bend the Arc and Act Blue

That is why Zelensky may have slipped when he said he had not seen a lot of the money that was appropriated for Ukraine from the US Congress.

Granted, a good amount of the money goes to Lockheed, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Northrop, etc as the USA may send "aging or surplus" weapons and equipment to Ukraine (and "accounts for that as an expense" as part of the $183 billion aid package since February 2022)
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12   Ceffer   2025 Sep 9, 11:16am  

The plot thickens. The partition map that was always the intention? Let the Russkies and the Ukey Nazis slaughter each other then occupy the vitiated high ground? More MI6/City of London shenanigans, with bones tossed to Paris and Poland/Hungary?

https://t.me/yourantifakenews/10477

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