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Think of the Poor Federal Workers


               
2025 Feb 16, 5:25pm   1,048 views  40 comments

by TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   follow (9)  

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1   clambo   2025 Feb 16, 5:57pm  

Hit the bricks baby, you are going OUT!
2   MolotovCocktail   2025 Feb 16, 10:33pm  

They all got packages, I bet. Not the ones those that took the buyout offer, but still.
3   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Feb 16, 11:24pm  

HOLY SHIT - THEY"RE NOT USAID WORKERS - 60 MINUTES LIED

They work for a general consulting company called "XLA" as communications 'experts'. In other words, PR assholes.







https://xla.com/

https://x.com/Hchdry976/status/1891388889731870936
4   WookieMan   2025 Feb 17, 4:02am  

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

They all got packages, I bet. Not the ones those that took the buyout offer, but still.

They can also get unemployment anyway. Just go get a job. They didn't quit so they qualify for UE. Very few people work a career job their whole life. Teachers, firefighters, some cops, etc. It's uncommon to be with one employer in the same location for 30-40 years before retirement age.

Gotta always be prepared.
5   stfu   2025 Feb 17, 5:22am  

Spend any time over at Bogleheads and you'll stumble across multiple retired 53 year old ass hats humble bragging about their Government Pensions aka "Can I afford this million dollar home?? (of course you can you fucking leech).

It was orgasm central when Biden signed the "SS Fairness act" last year which entitled these same remoras to receive SS benefits when they never paid into the system; AND around which the omission of SS from their fat pensions were designed. The got their cake and ate it too. Meanwhile I'm taxed on any SS benefit that would allow me to choose JIFF over Food Lion Brand.
6   clambo   2025 Feb 17, 9:16am  

The median income for people in the DC area is double the national median.

Fire those gold bricks, fuck them all.
7   zzyzzx   2025 Feb 17, 9:52am  

AmericanKulak says


HOLY SHIT - THEY"RE NOT USAID WORKERS - 60 MINUTES LIED

They work for a general consulting company called "XLA" as communications 'experts'. In other words, PR assholes.





In other words, little or no experience that the private sector is likely to be looking for.
8   Ceffer   2025 Feb 17, 10:05am  

Looks like the cost of sheet rockers and carpet installers in the Northeast is going to go down.
9   HeadSet   2025 Feb 17, 6:37pm  

Ceffer says

Looks like the cost of sheet rockers and carpet installers in the Northeast is going to go down.

Those jobs require skills these ex Fed workers do not have.
10   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Feb 17, 6:46pm  

Kristina Drye is a Far Leftist Millennial Chick. I'm telling you guys, late 80s-early 90s birth year liberal White women are the reason things sucked

https://archive.is/R4gQ2
https://archive.is/TIn0r
https://archive.is/ZmTVT

11   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Feb 17, 6:47pm  

zzyzzx says

In other words, little or no experience that the private sector is likely to be looking for.

She could be a DEI airline crash crisis apologist

"Shanaynay passed the pilot course."
12   Karloff   2025 Feb 17, 7:25pm  

Anyone tell them that they need to "learn to code"?
13   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Feb 17, 8:32pm  

Karloff says

Anyone tell them that they need to "learn to code"?


world doesn’t need more shitty programmers, we already got Indians for that
14   Ceffer   2025 Feb 17, 10:48pm  

IHLlary wasn't just going to destroy America. She was going to destroy the entire Northern Hemisphere in nuclear Armageddon for the insane Globalists in their fallout tunnels.
15   RWSGFY   2025 Feb 18, 8:25am  

HeadSet says

Ceffer says


Looks like the cost of sheet rockers and carpet installers in the Northeast is going to go down.

Those jobs require skills these ex Fed workers do not have.


We were told on this very site that picking up any trade and starting to make six figures in it is a matter of days. Couple of weeks, tops.
16   RWSGFY   2025 Feb 18, 8:30am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

Karloff says


Anyone tell them that they need to "learn to code"?


world doesn’t need more shitty programmers, we already got Indians for that


Well, Trump is gonna end H1B and off-shoring, right? Right?
17   Karloff   2025 Feb 18, 11:46am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

Karloff says


Anyone tell them that they need to "learn to code"?


world doesn’t need more shitty programmers, we already got Indians for that

Nobody expects them to actually do it, or even be capable of doing it. It's just a to throw their own statements back in their face after they did it to others that lost their legit jobs. A middle-finger to their smarmy arrogance. Not that they'd get understand the parallel, since they never do.
18   WookieMan   2025 Feb 18, 12:07pm  

AmericanKulak says

I'm telling you guys, late 80s-early 90s birth year liberal White women are the reason things sucked

I am a man obviously but early 80's was fine. I know a lot of late 80's early 90's chicks doing well. Have kids and a family.

It's being faithful in a relationship that's the problem. Millennial woman think a divorce is normal now even with kids. Rarely do dudes beat women anymore 40 and under. I guess that's a positive. But women specifically just throw away commitment to chase $$$. They're the bigger cheaters than guys now chasing money. It's the shift I noticed from boomers as a kid from the 80's. Men used to be the cheaters.

Women are sluts now which is why I'll never date again. Ever. If I get a $2-5M windfall if something happens with my wife, I'm officially out of the game. I'd probably still sleep with women, but literally (making this up) have them sign a pre-sexnuptual. Get a vasectomy, so no kids. Not going to be an anchor widower for some chick with baggage at my age. Already witness it. It sucks.
19   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Feb 27, 12:15am  

Y'all know that each one of these Federal Workers, at some point in the last ten years, said

"MER JOBS!"

in a snearing voice watching pipefitters or coal miners get laid off or people complain about illegals.

Which, by the way, 16 illegals fled ICE at a cement plant in Mississippi yesterday.
21   Glock-n-Load   2025 Feb 27, 4:04pm  

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says





Anyone retired with a pension such as a federal employee is a millionaire. Just think how much you’d have to save to generate that pension payout during your retirement.
22   Ceffer   2025 Feb 27, 4:35pm  

I know a veteran in Santa Cruz who retired at 38 after 20 years in the Navy, and has been collecting a pension (and medical benefits) now up to the age of 86. That's 48 years of pension vs. 20 years of service. I told him that is why the Deep State is trying to harvest him, he is a pain in their wallet and should just DIE, FUCKING DIE ALREADY.
23   clambo   2025 Feb 27, 4:36pm  

Almost all Federal employees are millionaires at retirement.
A rule of thumb: for every $50,000/year, the pension principal would be worth $1 million.
I'm pretty sure any Federal employee gets at least $50 grand per year at retirement.
24   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Feb 27, 4:46pm  

Glock-n-Load says

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says






Anyone retired with a pension such as a federal employee is a millionaire. Just think how much you’d have to save to generate that pension payout during your retirement.


15-20% of your income. it’s really doable. most don’t do it.
25   Reality   2025 Feb 27, 5:11pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


15-20% of your income. it’s really doable. most don’t do it.


At current tax level and medical insurance cost, that is hard to do for most people (those who can afford that likely already have retirement money secured). Let's also not forget, most people buy into bubbles instead of making timely value investments.
26   Reality   2025 Feb 27, 5:12pm  

Ceffer says


I know a veteran in Santa Cruz who retired at 38 after 20 years in the Navy, and has been collecting a pension now up to the age of 86. That's 48 years of pension vs. 20 years of service. I told him that is why the Deep State is trying to harvest him, he is a pain in their wallet and should just DIE, FUCKING DIE ALREADY.


LOL! Most of the cry-baby sheep haven't figured out that the dogs and the rancher are working together!
27   komputodo   2025 Feb 27, 7:48pm  

thought and prayers
28   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Feb 27, 8:37pm  

“Women are sluts now which is why I'll never date again. Ever. If I get a $2-5M windfall if something happens with my wife, I'm officially out of the game. I'd probably still sleep with women, but literally (making this up) have them sign a pre-sexnuptual. Get a vasectomy, so no kids. Not going to be an anchor widower for some chick with baggage at my age. Already witness it. It sucks.”

If my wife passed, zero chance I’d ever get married again, and unlikely I’d live with anyone,
29   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Feb 27, 8:39pm  

clambo says

Almost all Federal employees are millionaires at retirement.
A rule of thumb: for every $50,000/year, the pension principal would be worth $1 million.
I'm pretty sure any Federal employee gets at least $50 grand per year at retirement.


This is pretty close to truth.

However, at that point…33-35 years….the employee has paid in about $300k toward their retirement.

I’m not debating that it’s a good deal for the employee…just like most other things it’s not black and white as it first appears.
30   AD   2025 Feb 28, 12:12am  

clambo says

Almost all Federal employees are millionaires at retirement.
A rule of thumb: for every $50,000/year, the pension principal would be worth $1 million.
I'm pretty sure any Federal employee gets at least $50 grand per year at retirement.


For Federal Employee Retirement System its 1% a year for each year and I think if they retire at 60, then they get 1.1% for each year based on high 3 year salaries.

So someone with 20 years (a "late hire" who worked 20 years prior as a government contractor) then they would get for an average high 3 year salary of $120,000 as a GS-13

(1.1/100) x 20 x $120,000 = $26,400 per year

Based on a 4% annuity that is like having $26,400 / 0.04, or $660,000 in the bank for the annuity.

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31   MolotovCocktail   2025 Feb 28, 12:19am  

AD says

For Federal Employee Retirement System its 1% a year for each year and I think if they retire at 60, then they get 1.1% for each year based on high 3 year salaries.

So someone with 20 years (a "late hire" who worked 20 years prior as a government contractor) then they would get for an average high 3 year salary of $120,000 as a GS-13

(1.1/100) x 20 x $120,000 = $26,400 per year

Based on a 4% annuity that is like having $26,400 / 0.04, or $660,000 in the bank for the annuity.


Are you serious? They get a 401k type investment system that pretty good AND kick ass medical bennies. You are not counting the net present values of those.
32   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Feb 28, 7:18am  

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

AD says


For Federal Employee Retirement System its 1% a year for each year and I think if they retire at 60, then they get 1.1% for each year based on high 3 year salaries.

So someone with 20 years (a "late hire" who worked 20 years prior as a government contractor) then they would get for an average high 3 year salary of $120,000 as a GS-13

(1.1/100) x 20 x $120,000 = $26,400 per year

Based on a 4% annuity that is like having $26,400 / 0.04, or $660,000 in the bank for the annuity.


Are you serious? They get a 401k type investment system that pretty good AND kick ass medical bennies. You are not counting the net present values of those.


Do feds get full medical at 20 years? I know the entity I work for, we need 25 years to cover oneself and I believe 28 to cover self and spouse. Also at 65 we have to go on Medicare so the medical coverage is 10 years or less. If we live of course. For a late life starter, there may be little or no health care coverage. I have no idea about the fed 457 plan. Ours is entirely on our own.
33   Booger   2025 Feb 28, 5:22pm  

I want to see a federal worker purge that would make Joseph Stalin blush.
34   AD   2025 Feb 28, 9:32pm  

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

AD says

For Federal Employee Retirement System its 1% a year for each year and I think if they retire at 60, then they get 1.1% for each year based on high 3 year salaries.

So someone with 20 years (a "late hire" who worked 20 years prior as a government contractor) then they would get for an average high 3 year salary of $120,000 as a GS-13

(1.1/100) x 20 x $120,000 = $26,400 per year

Based on a 4% annuity that is like having $26,400 / 0.04, or $660,000 in the bank for the annuity.

Are you serious? They get a 401k type investment system that pretty good AND kick ass medical bennies. You are not counting the net present values of those.


The $26,400 per year is the amount they would receive if they retire today, so its equivalent to having a 4% annuity withdrawn from a $660,000 savings account.

In addition to Federal Employee Retirement System I think also the federal civil servants get a match of a maximum of 5% for their Thrift Savings Program (TSP), so if you contribute 5% of your pay to your 401K (aka: TSP) then the federal government matches 5%.

I am not sure about the medical insurance when one can retire at minimum retirement age (MRA) which I think is usually 57 years if you have at least 20 years of federal service.

If not, then I think the retirement age is 62 years.

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35   MolotovCocktail   2025 Feb 28, 9:49pm  

AD says

The $26,400 per year is the amount they would receive if they retire today, so its equivalent to having a 4% annuity withdrawn from a $660,000 savings account.


Context I am not sure your are keeping in mind:

Federal worker: I am going to lose my pension!

Private Sector Worker: What's a pension?
36   AD   2025 Feb 28, 9:53pm  

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says


AD says

The $26,400 per year is the amount they would receive if they retire today, so its equivalent to having a 4% annuity withdrawn from a $660,000 savings account.

Context I am not sure your are keeping in mind:

Federal worker: I am going to lose my pension!

Private Sector Worker: What's a pension?


Yes I appreciate context and yes, "context matters".

I think the argument back in the day (~1980's to 2010) was that a private sector worker received more pay so they could save more in their 401K's and IRA's.

Now from a buddy of mine who works as a "support contractor and naval engineer" at US Coast Guard headquarters, the civil servant counterparts make more money than the private sector.

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37   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Feb 28, 10:31pm  

AD says


OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says


AD says

The $26,400 per year is the amount they would receive if they retire today, so its equivalent to having a 4% annuity withdrawn from a $660,000 savings account.

Context I am not sure your are keeping in mind:

Federal worker: I am going to lose my pension!

Private Sector Worker: What's a pension?


Yes I appreciate context and yes, "context matters".

I think the argument back in the day (~1980's to 2010) was that a private sector worker received more pay so they could save more in their 401K's and IRA's.

Now from a buddy of mine who works as a "support contractor and naval engineer" at US Coast Guard headquarters, the civil servant counterparts make more money than the private sector.

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Depends on the job. For entry level, typically govt jobs pay less than private industry but as you promote in govt jobs or move up in steps or paygrade as service time increases, govt employers tend to surpass private industry.

Also depends on classification. I know one recent specialized job caps out in the place I work at just over $100k a year. I know a guy doing it in private industry on a direct apples to apples basis and making almost $200k. This is most frequent with blue collar semi skilled positions. The jobs that consistently pay more than private industry is clerical series jobs and the jobs that pay to little compared to private industry are STEM related jobs. Engineers and IT people in govt are quite underpaid.
38   Misc   2025 Mar 1, 12:56pm  

AD says

The $26,400 per year is the amount they would receive if they retire today, so its equivalent to having a 4% annuity withdrawn from a $660,000 savings account.


I think you are missing the inflation indexed component. Once you factor in the increase each year for the CPI increase, the dollar amount of the annuity needed is much, much higher.
39   AD   2025 Mar 1, 4:35pm  

Misc says

AD says

The $26,400 per year is the amount they would receive if they retire today, so its equivalent to having a 4% annuity withdrawn from a $660,000 savings account.

I think you are missing the inflation indexed component. Once you factor in the increase each year for the CPI increase, the dollar amount of the annuity needed is much, much higher.


Yes, that $26,400 annuity from Federal Employee Retirement System increases each year at the same rate as Social Security increases, so yes the equivalent of $660,000 is for the first year of the pension.

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40   AD   2025 Mar 2, 7:15pm  

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2025/02/28/6-percent-federal-employees-in-person-fact-check/80526282007/

Only 6% of federal employees report to an office for work? Not true | Fact check

This is still BS that only 54% of federal workers are showing up to the office for pre COVID conditions (Full Time onsite)


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