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It’s Time to Stop Backing Ukraine


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2023 Sep 25, 2:04am   7,212 views  69 comments

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There is no victory in this war. There are only bad and worse outcomes.

https://public.substack.com/p/its-time-to-stop-backing-ukraine



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63   Shaman   2023 Sep 28, 9:39am  

The Russo/Ukrainian war can best be described as a civil war between adjoining and neighboring states with a history of conflict.
Which civil war in history was NOT inflamed to greater body counts and longer duration with more destruction by the addition of foreign money and arms?

There’s a reason we lock up international arms dealers. They prolong such violence and cause thousands of needless deaths by arming the belligerent forces.

This all could have been over in April 2022, but Biden and the elites wanted to “hurt Russia” with their cat’s paw Ukraine.
It’s cost half a million lives, and those weren’t Sudanese Africans nobody cares about. Those are white Christians who are dying in droves for the vanity of the “Rich Men North of Richmond.”
64   socal2   2023 Sep 28, 11:06am  

Shaman says

It’s cost half a million lives, and those weren’t Sudanese Africans nobody cares about. Those are white Christians who are dying in droves for the vanity of the “Rich Men North of Richmond.”


This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.

Where is the evidence that the majority of Ukrainians want their government and military disbanded and to accept living under Russian occupation?
65   Onvacation   2023 Sep 28, 11:14am  

socal2 says

This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.

If the Ukrainians have so many volunteers, why do they recruit by press gang?
66   socal2   2023 Sep 28, 11:56am  

Onvacation says

socal2 says


This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.

If the Ukrainians have so many volunteers, why do they recruit by press gang?


FFS - virtually any country suffering a massive invasion from Russia like Ukraine is experiencing would have to institute Martial Law and set up a conscription system. There were loads of patriotic US volunteers after Pearl Harbor, but we still needed a draft.

Besides, if Russia is so successful in their invasion, why are they having to call up mobilizations and pathetically use criminals like Wagner to go next door and get killed?
67   Onvacation   2023 Sep 28, 12:44pm  

socal2 says

FFS - virtually any country suffering a massive invasion from Russia like Ukraine is experiencing would have to institute Martial Law and set up a conscription system.

Drag them off the corner give them a rifle and send them into Russian mine fields is conscription?
68   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2023 Sep 28, 8:40pm  

Ukey Bullshit Counter-offensive Paid By You And Me.

We were promised that they would be at the Sea of Azov MONTHS ago.


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