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Schokolade says

Why is Zelenskyy a Jewish traitor and hates Ukraine??

He promised to implement the Minsk Accords, and end the civil war, and he didn't. Instead he escalated it, got Russia to finally attack Eastern Ukraine, and has dumped 300,000 or so Ukrainian into the meat grinder. He's destroyed Ukraine.

Schokolade says

Btw., all the personal comments and name callings don’t bother me in your case. I think it’s because I believe you just went too far down the rabbit hole.

HOW am I wrong? Maybe I am. When you think you have found an error in either my logic or knowledge, point it out. I'm human, I make errors, and I will accept it when I do, and correct. I've been doing this all my life.

I'm just disgusted with you. I know how this war will end, because it will end like EVERY American war. YOU SHOULD KNOW, and you don't. What? Can't learn the basics in 20 fucking years? This war will end with a lot of dead, and a destroyed nation, and if anybody gains, it will be US companies shipping LNG to Europe, and Russia. I almost think this war is really a war against Europe.

Russia will be fine after this, the US.... I don't know.

Trollhole says

Wow, Maui is really bad.

Oh wait, only a few million for US disasters.

@StillsearchingforagoodName - you asked me what I based my belief on Ukraine being overthrown by a CIA coup and I told you, that the intercepted phone call between Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt was not just evidence for the coup, but absolute proof.

Do you consider this to be erroneous?

You seem to think that Victoria Nuland deciding on the government that Ukraine was going to have (and got), is just some sort of coincidence. Are you really incapable of not believing in something until some taking head asshole says it?

For the first time in history, not only did we get evidence of a coup before it happened, we had a recorded conversation that Victoria Nuland admitted was accurate and correct, and simply because our asshole propagandists won't confirm it, you don't believe it? It's amazing to me how absolutely brainwashed people can be.

I want to be clear about my position. I think the US state department is out of control by maniacs, and I mean literal maniacs. They should all be fired if not imprisoned or executed. They purpose create problems, and they use the propaganda box to offer a solution. We didn't have to go to ANY WAR since 1991. I'm tired of this shit. Ukraine was corrupt in 2013, and it's corrupt now. It's not our problem, and more importantly, the US isn't solving that problem, they are exploiting it and I'm fucking paying for it, and so is everybody.

20 fucking years of war, of state sanctioned murder, ignore the immorality of it, how has ANY of these wars advantaged our nation? We either have incompetents running the state department, or traitors running it. They are destroying this nation. Stop being a puppet to them. You are helping to destroy this nation, by being loyal. Stop being a loyal puppet. I'm tired of it. We should have revolted decades ago.

iwog2 says

Schokolade says

Just because you call it facts doesn’t mean it’s a fact.

Then you write this:

Schokolade says

We can be happy we are not being attacked by a madman like Putin

You're just trolling this site. Go away.

How is that Trolling, seems like a low bar to me. People call Putin a madman all the time in their support for Ukraine.
If you're already triggered by their first defense for supporting Ukraine, then you have already lost the debate.

I support Putin over the EU and Global Domination NGO cabal, and their G20 enablers.
I can only go by logical optics for my opinion and support. He may be a bigger asshole than I give him credit for. But however the MSM's dishonest selective reporting. And those attacking him, if critical thinking prevails, Those that are attacked the most, are probably on the side of the Truth of what's going on. That being said, I don't or can't get bent out of shape over people calling him a madman, because that's their only defense for the NWO.
Otherwise they can't tell me how Putin is doing anything worse than the rest of Western World's influence and military enforced policy.

The Russo/Ukrainian war can best be described as a civil war between adjoining and neighboring states with a history of conflict.
Which civil war in history was NOT inflamed to greater body counts and longer duration with more destruction by the addition of foreign money and arms?

There’s a reason we lock up international arms dealers. They prolong such violence and cause thousands of needless deaths by arming the belligerent forces.

This all could have been over in April 2022, but Biden and the elites wanted to “hurt Russia” with their cat’s paw Ukraine.
It’s cost half a million lives, and those weren’t Sudanese Africans nobody cares about. Those are white Christians who are dying in droves for the vanity of the “Rich Men North of Richmond.”

Shaman says

It’s cost half a million lives, and those weren’t Sudanese Africans nobody cares about. Those are white Christians who are dying in droves for the vanity of the “Rich Men North of Richmond.”

This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.

Where is the evidence that the majority of Ukrainians want their government and military disbanded and to accept living under Russian occupation?

socal2 says

This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.

If the Ukrainians have so many volunteers, why do they recruit by press gang?

Onvacation says

socal2 says

This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.

If the Ukrainians have so many volunteers, why do they recruit by press gang?

FFS - virtually any country suffering a massive invasion from Russia like Ukraine is experiencing would have to institute Martial Law and set up a conscription system. There were loads of patriotic US volunteers after Pearl Harbor, but we still needed a draft.

Besides, if Russia is so successful in their invasion, why are they having to call up mobilizations and pathetically use criminals like Wagner to go next door and get killed?

socal2 says

FFS - virtually any country suffering a massive invasion from Russia like Ukraine is experiencing would have to institute Martial Law and set up a conscription system.

Drag them off the corner give them a rifle and send them into Russian mine fields is conscription?

Ukey Bullshit Counter-offensive Paid By You And Me.

We were promised that they would be at the Sea of Azov MONTHS ago.