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The Ukraine Air Force Just Got Some Good News


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2022 Jul 27, 3:58am   939 views  34 comments

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#ukraineairforce The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you. Slovakia is just about ready to donate 11 Mig-29s to Ukraine. US defense officials have changed their minds and are ready to give US jet fighters and ground attack aircraft to the Ukraine Air Force. They have told Ukraine officials: "Tell us what planes you want and we will work out a deal."
I'm proud that one of our readers is a Ukraine pilot. Denys asked me what plane I would recommend for the Ukraine Air Force. I did not have to think about it long and hard. I told him the A-10 Warthog. For those of you curious, here is an excellent video on this aircraft that has been in service with the U.S. Air Force and Air National Guard units for 50 years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5us5ce56YHo

The A-10 is the kind of plane that I love. It is easy to fly. It is easy to maintain. It can operate out of rugged airfields. It is tough and can take a lot of punishment. It was designed as "a tank killer." Its only weakness is that it is an easy target for very advanced air defense systems like the SA-300, SA-400, and SA-500. This weakness can be overcome!

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2   WookieMan   2022 Jul 27, 5:33am  

ohomen171 says

The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you. Slovakia is just about ready to donate 11 Mig-29s to Ukraine. US defense officials have changed their minds and are ready to give US jet fighters and ground attack aircraft to the Ukraine Air Force. They have told Ukraine officials: "Tell us what planes you want and we will work out a deal."

Is this really good news? More war? I'm not some hippy type, but just sell the fucking land to Russia and move on. This is one of the dumbest conflicts I've seen in my lifetime and I've seen quite a few as a younger user here with the ME.
3   clambo   2022 Jul 27, 6:15am  

Good.
I hope Ukraine strikes back hard and kicks their ass.
Nobody wants to be ruled by the assholes in the Kremlin.
4   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 7:01am  

clambo says

Good.
I hope Ukraine strikes back hard and kicks their ass.
Nobody wants to be ruled by the assholes in the Kremlin.


The people in the Donbass do. They have twice petitioned Russia to absorb them. Russia declined realizing this would have lead to war, but since Ukraine kept appealing to join NATO, and NATO didn't flatly refuse, and was arming Ukraine, Russia finally pulled the trigger.

When Crimea petitioned to join the Russian Federation, Russia of course did accept because of their major military base there.
5   WookieMan   2022 Jul 27, 7:06am  

richwicks says

The people in the Donbass do.

Exactly. This was a real estate transaction or should have been. Not a war. I get the give an inch, they'll take a mile perspective, but all you had to do was give/sell a small swath of land and this wouldn't even happen. Of which most people in said region are aligned with Russia anyway.

Everything can be sold. This definitely seems like military equipment is what is being sold.
6   zzyzzx   2022 Jul 27, 7:18am  

WookieMan says

Everything can be sold.


And how much did Russia pay Ukraine for Crimea?
How much did Russia offer for Dombass?

Zero. They want it for free. How about every not Russia countries with Russians in it force the Russians back to Russia? It's not like Russia needs more land, they are already the largest country with vast open spaces.
7   zzyzzx   2022 Jul 27, 7:19am  

WookieMan says


but just sell the fucking land to Russia and move on.


Do you have an example of this happening? Russians are thieves who just want to steal it.

Russians make enemies of just about everyone, then wonders why everyone hates them.
8   clambo   2022 Jul 27, 7:23am  

So if the Mexicans in Arizona and New Mexico ask Mexico to take over, Mexico invades and annexes them right?
Of course after Mexico signs a treaty agreeing to not invade and respect USA sovereignty?
9   komputodo   2022 Jul 27, 7:40am  

WookieMan says

ohomen171 says


The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you. Slovakia is just about ready to donate 11 Mig-29s to Ukraine. US defense officials have changed their minds and are ready to give US jet fighters and ground attack aircraft to the Ukraine Air Force. They have told Ukraine officials: "Tell us what planes you want and we will work out a deal."

Is this really good news? More war? I'm not some hippy type, but just sell the fucking land to Russia and move on. This is one of the dumbest conflicts I've seen in my lifetime and I've seen quite a few as a younger user here with the ME.

RE: The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you: I'm sure the pilots are ecstatic that they have a new plane to die in. The OP forgot to add that several 1000's of deaths and all the destruction is worth it if they can save their "democracy".
10   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 8:13am  

zzyzzx says

WookieMan says


Everything can be sold.


And how much did Russia pay Ukraine for Crimea?
How much did Russia offer for Dombass?

Zero. They want it for free.


Russia didn't want the Donbass. Again, Donbass petitioned to join the Russian Federation shortly after the CIA coup of Ukraine. When Russia refused, they declared independence, this led to immediate civil war.

Self determination is part of the UN's declaration of human rights, not that the UN follows any of their stupid stated principles.

This all began with a CIA coup, and the US has exactly what they wanted, a new route to launder and spend tax payer money. Without Afghanistan, they were desperate for that. Do you think Eisenhower was talking bullshit?


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Even when a WWII General and president tells you PRECISELY what is going on and warned about it over 50 years ago, people refuse to believe it.

This conflict might serve NOMINAL US strategic goals, but that's ancillary. The main purpose of war for the US is now profit for the MIC. Wars are created, on the regular just as an excuse to spend money. It's out in the open. Why do you think THIS is our "military" today?



Doesn't matter what's in our military now, not to the MIC.
11   GNL   2022 Jul 27, 8:21am  

zzyzzx says


WookieMan says


Everything can be sold.


And how much did Russia pay Ukraine for Crimea?
How much did Russia offer for Dombass?

Zero. They want it for free. How about every not Russia countries with Russians in it force the Russians back to Russia? It's not like Russia needs more land, they are already the largest country with vast open spaces.


And how much did the US pay XXX for XXX?
How much did THE US offer for XXX?

Zero. They want it for free. How about every not US countries with XXX in it force the THE US back to THE US? It's not like THE US needs more land, they already CONTROL vast AREAS OF THE WORLD.
12   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 8:27am  

WineHorror1 says


And how much did the US pay XXX for XXX?
How much did THE US offer for XXX?


The Louisiana purchase was 15 million dollars, when gold was $20 an ounce (approximately, it was actually $19.9X something)
Alaska was 7.2 million.

Hawaii was stolen and was illegally forced into the Union.
Parts of California were forcibly taken from Mexico.
The Louisiana purchase really wasn't France's to sell.
13   GNL   2022 Jul 27, 8:30am  

What are the 2 most used excuses for the US to bomb other countries? Why did they fuck up Libya?

"It's in our national security interests"
And
"They are an existential threat"
And
"Muh terrorism"
And now
"White supremacist/Nazism".

No other countries are allowed to have the same concerns?

People, if you want the one world government the globalist are trying to create, continue supporting everything the US does while also vilifying everyone the US tells you to vilify.
14   Bd6r   2022 Jul 27, 8:53am  

richwicks says

The people in the Donbass do. They have twice petitioned Russia to absorb them.

Fake News.
15   Tenpoundbass   2022 Jul 27, 9:19am  

ohomen171 says

#ukraineairforce The Ukraine Air Force got some good news that I want to share with all of you. Slovakia is just about ready to donate 11 Mig-29s to Ukraine. US defense officials have changed their minds and are ready to give US jet fighters and ground attack aircraft to the Ukraine Air Force. They have told Ukraine officials: "Tell us what planes you want and we will work out a deal."
I'm proud that one of our readers is a Ukraine pilot. Denys asked me what plane I would recommend for the Ukraine Air Force. I did not have to think about it long and hard. I told him the A-10 Warthog. For those of you curious, here is an excellent video on this aircraft that has been in service with the U.S. Air Force and Air National Guard units for 50 years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5us5ce56YHo

The A-10 is the kind of plane that I love. It is easy to fly. It is easy to maintain. It can o...


Our military aircraft are made for various branches of our armed services. They are designed and built to fulfil a task, often to lay down support for one of the other vehicles. They aren't ala carte options, "Hey which ones do you want, and what color would you like it?".

Normally the military leaders on both sides would agree on the specific military goals they are trying to achieve, and will offer up planes accordingly.

For the most part they give out an aging general purpose fighter jets. But that wont do Ukraine much good, because Russia isn't running a sortie operation against Ukraine, they send in infantry and fire missles from Russia.(If you believe that Russia is responsible for every single civilian bombing casualty, which I do NOT!)

A-10 or Apache attack helicopters do seem more appropriate for what Ukraine needs, I don't see how a Hornet will help them. But I'm sure this administration will fuck those choices up to.

A wise articulate and clean black man, once told me...
"Never underestimate Biden's ability to fuck shit up!"
16   zzyzzx   2022 Jul 27, 10:07am  

The real problem here is that nobody really wants to live in Russia. Not even Russians. Because it fucking sucks. It always has, and probably always will. If you are a neighboring country, you end up with a bunch of Russians living in your country, then Vlad will want to annex you.
17   GNL   2022 Jul 27, 10:57am  

richwicks says

WineHorror1 says



And how much did the US pay XXX for XXX?
How much did THE US offer for XXX?


The Louisiana purchase was 15 million dollars, when gold was $20 an ounce (approximately, it was actually $19.9X something)
Alaska was 7.2 million.

Hawaii was stolen and was illegally forced into the Union.
Parts of California were forcibly taken from Mexico.
The Louisiana purchase really wasn't France's to sell.

That's my point.
18   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 11:14am  

Bd6r says


richwicks says


The people in the Donbass do. They have twice petitioned Russia to absorb them.

Fake News.



Whatever. If it's on American television and reported by the US government, and especially the US intelligence agencies, THEN you know you're listening to fake news.


original link

If it's on television, it's bullshit. This is the level of infantile propaganda we have today. Rachael Maddow is the highest paid "reporter" in the United States today. She's the most popular "news" reporter in the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Donbas&oldid=649659454#Separatism

Getting more difficult to cover up history. Before my generation is dead, it won't be the winners that write the history. They already don't record it.
19   Ceffer   2022 Jul 27, 11:35am  

More shit for the Russians to blow up. Migs are Russian jets with vacuum tubes in their control parts (so they still work through an EMP). Now we have Russians using American weapons and Ukes using Russian weapons. What a lovely carnival of blood.
20   WookieMan   2022 Jul 27, 12:58pm  

zzyzzx says

Do you have an example of this happening? Russians are thieves who just want to steal it.

Louisiana purchase comes to mind. There are others in our history where we did not kill people to get a tiny or big swath of land.

This is a classic machismo war that was totally unnecessary. Also, if you build a military you need to use it sometimes. That's really all this is. This could have been handled diplomatically before the first bullet or rocket was fired. It's a proxy war. Didn't need to happen.
21   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 1:06pm  

WookieMan says


This is a classic machismo war that was totally unnecessary. Also, if you build a military you need to use it sometimes.


I think the problem with the United States is that when all you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. The US doesn't have any competent diplomats, because it spends a trillion dollars a year on the military. The military is our hammer.

In the 1950's if some nation wanted something the US wanted, diplomacy was used, we'd scratch their back, they would scratch ours - mutual benefit, UNTIL the fucking CIA realized they could just overthrow the government, bribe or blackmail the assholes they installed, and get the same thing. We had a brief period of time of greatness, but perhaps may have been the greatest greatness of any nation ever.

I want us to be competitive, and fair, but extremely competitive.

Mutual benefit, OBVIOUSLY, benefits us all. Don't crush your partner, and your partner won't likely try to crush you. Cooperation is better than elimination. It's just game theory, and we understand game theory, but we don't practice it.
22   HeadSet   2022 Jul 27, 1:07pm  

WookieMan says

Also, if you build a military you need to use it sometimes.

Sweden and Switzerland. They never need to use their militaries, even during WWII when all nations around them were at war. The US should copy that practice.
23   Bd6r   2022 Jul 27, 4:37pm  

richwicks says

Whatever.

You did not provide any links which you constantly demand from others, and you have been very wrong about that part of world way too many times. Hence, one can not take your statements about E. Europe seriously.
24   Bd6r   2022 Jul 27, 4:41pm  

richwicks says

She's the most popular "news" reporter in the United States.

False as well.

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here-are-the-top-rated-cable-news-shows-for-may-22/508248/

Tucker Carlson Tonight remains the top cable news show among adults 25-54. In May, the program averaged 522,000 viewers from the demo and 3.23 million total viewers at 8 p.m., the latter of which is No. 2 in cable news.

The Rachel Maddow Show (known as MSNBC Prime Tuesdays-Fridays) was MSNBC’s most-watched show for May (1.95 million viewers at 9 p.m.), No. 8 overall.
25   Shaman   2022 Jul 27, 4:50pm  

Senator Seward bought Alaska from the Russians.
They called it “Seward’s Folly.” With this deal the USA bought Alaska (more than 3 times the size of texas) from Russia for the small sum of $7million.

Don’t tell me land can’t be sold between countries. It’s always just a matter of the currency being gold or blood.
26   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 4:56pm  

Bd6r says

You did not provide any links which you constantly demand from others


Yes I did, I provided this:


original link


Our "news media" is complete propaganda, childish propaganda at that. Why do you trust anything from our "authorities"? They are jokes.
27   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 5:00pm  

Bd6r says


Tucker Carlson Tonight remains the top cable news show among adults 25-54. In May, the program averaged 522,000 viewers from the demo and 3.23 million total viewers at 8 p.m., the latter of which is No. 2 in cable news.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/03/30/rachel-maddow-has-most-watched-show-in-first-quarter-cable-news-ratings/?sh=d97457750543

I just don't care about who is the most listened to propagandist. Let's see Tucker Carlson talk openly about the Ukraine conflict. It's called the "propaganda box" for a reason.

If you're on television it's for propaganda purposes, whether you realize it or not.
28   Bd6r   2022 Jul 27, 5:00pm  

richwicks says


Yes I did, I provided this:

Maddow is not a credible source as you mention in your rant above, so link with her talking nonsense does not count. Do better, find an original article/news report. Or you can't?
29   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 5:03pm  

Bd6r says

richwicks says



Yes I did, I provided this:

Maddow is not a credible source as you mention in your rant above


There is nobody allowed on television that isn't a propaganda vector at this point.

It's the propaganda box.
31   Bd6r   2022 Jul 27, 5:05pm  

richwicks says

There is nobody allowed on television that isn't a propaganda vector at this point.

It's the propaganda box.

Hence, your link is meaningless in supporting your claim.
32   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 5:11pm  

Bd6r says

Yes, lets start bringing up most watched news shows of 1954.


That would be interesting. I doubt you can provide it, but it would be fascinating if you could.
33   Bd6r   2022 Jul 27, 5:13pm  

richwicks says

That would be interesting. I doubt you can provide it, but it would be fascinating if you could.

I tried to find it and could not.
34   richwicks   2022 Jul 27, 5:15pm  

Bd6r says


richwicks says


There is nobody allowed on television that isn't a propaganda vector at this point.

It's the propaganda box.

Hence, your link is meaningless in supporting your claim.



I'm just pointing out that anything you point to on television is not to believed.

Philo Farnsworth invented the television. He thought his invention would bring education and art to the entire world, but he is reported to have said to his child, when he refused to allow it in his home:


There's nothing on it worthwhile, and we're not going to watch it in this household, and I don't want it in your intellectual diet.


I really have respect for that genius. He was really brilliant.

I expect that Farnsworth would have been disappointed with the Internet, but not entirely. It's just a slow fight, but over time, the right side will win, but it's a very slow fight. It's a real struggle for knowledge.

I didn't predict or expect government propagandists, after all, I live in the United States. I never expected them to be allowed into portals, publishers, like Google, or Facebook. How naive I was. They are a disease of disinformation, they prevent resolution and common goals. They are a cancer.

Provided we can communicate, I think we can find resolution. Government won't allow that. I should have known.


original link

I'm always kind of surprised I'm not cynical enough and that video is over 40 years old. How can I be so naive at this age?

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