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My Sad Personal Experience With Deaths Due To Substance Abuse
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2021 Nov 18, 5:04am 378 views 10 comments
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WookieMan
2021 Nov 18, 5:22am
WookieMan
2021 Nov 18, 5:22am
ohomen171 says
Usually pancreas actually with alcohol. My BIL died about 10 days ago from alcoholism. Sure the liver isn't in good shape with most alcoholics, but it's a pretty hardy organ. Once the pancreas starts going you're toast. A billionaire with all the medical treatments in the world available to him died from a bum pancreas. I have my suspicions that Steve Jobs was a closet alcoholic. Especially given the rumors of his temper with employees.
It's the reason I don't and won't drink hard liquor. My BIL always had a water bottle with him. It was straight vodka. Handle a day the last 4-5 years, no joke. My grandma was an alcoholic and somehow made it to 93. I'm sure her liver was trash, but if I recall correctly it was issues with the pancreas that did her in.
I got the shocking news that Bill, and Tatiana had died from complications due to their alcohol addiction. (This usually has something to do with the liver.)
Usually pancreas actually with alcohol. My BIL died about 10 days ago from alcoholism. Sure the liver isn't in good shape with most alcoholics, but it's a pretty hardy organ. Once the pancreas starts going you're toast. A billionaire with all the medical treatments in the world available to him died from a bum pancreas. I have my suspicions that Steve Jobs was a closet alcoholic. Especially given the rumors of his temper with employees.
It's the reason I don't and won't drink hard liquor. My BIL always had a water bottle with him. It was straight vodka. Handle a day the last 4-5 years, no joke. My grandma was an alcoholic and somehow made it to 93. I'm sure her liver was trash, but if I recall correctly it was issues with the pancreas that did her in.
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Ceffer
2021 Nov 18, 12:19pm
Ceffer
2021 Nov 18, 12:19pm
Oddly enough, not all alcoholics suffer debilitating liver problems. It is a case by case thing. However, the liver isn't the only end organ challenged by alcohol.
Police in Santa Cruz recently arrested a dealer with a big weapons cache and amongst his wares was a quarter pound of fentanyl. That's enough to kill almost everybody in city of Santa Cruz from one single dealer. Overdose deaths are a common occurrence, and it seems like paramedics with wailing sirens stabbing homeless with narcan is so common it's a wonder they have time for anything else.
Strange, I envy their weapons caches and wouldn't mind one of their automatic weapons these days.
Police in Santa Cruz recently arrested a dealer with a big weapons cache and amongst his wares was a quarter pound of fentanyl. That's enough to kill almost everybody in city of Santa Cruz from one single dealer. Overdose deaths are a common occurrence, and it seems like paramedics with wailing sirens stabbing homeless with narcan is so common it's a wonder they have time for anything else.
Strange, I envy their weapons caches and wouldn't mind one of their automatic weapons these days.
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Tenpoundbass
2021 Nov 18, 1:55pm
This guys timeline of all of the professions he's had, and the places he's been, are all over the place. It's like he's Verbal being interrogated by Dave.
Tenpoundbass
2021 Nov 18, 1:55pm
Oh, gee, thanks, Dave. Bang-up job so far. Extortion, coercion. You'll pardon me if I ask you to kiss my pucker. The same fuckers that rounded us up and sank us into this mess are gonna bail me out? Fuck you. You think you can catch Keyser Soze? You think a guy like that comes this close to getting caught and sticks his head out? If he comes up for anything, it will be to get rid of me. After that... my guess is you'll never hear from him again.
This guys timeline of all of the professions he's had, and the places he's been, are all over the place. It's like he's Verbal being interrogated by Dave.
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Automan Empire
2021 Nov 18, 2:46pm
Automan Empire
2021 Nov 18, 2:46pm
One of my long term clients for decades was a lovely Hawaiian woman who was an elementary school teacher and housewife/mother. Somewhere along the line she hurt her back, and long story short ended up hooked on legal opioids. She ended up a hollow shell of her former self, basically drifting and ghosting through the day. Last 2 times she was in, it was like talking to a little kid whose parents set them up to "do the shopping" and interact with me, and she was accompanied by an older dour and annoyed looking caretaker who didn't utter a peep to me either time. Pretty sure she's still alive, but a case of a person who became a ghost long before she died.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Nov 18, 3:39pm
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Nov 18, 3:39pm
Psychedelic psilocybin cuts cravings and boosts key brain functions in rat models of alcohol use disorder
https://www.fiercebiotech.com/research/magic-mushrooms-might-be-next-treatment-tested-for-alcohol-addiction
https://www.fiercebiotech.com/research/magic-mushrooms-might-be-next-treatment-tested-for-alcohol-addiction
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Ceffer
2021 Nov 18, 4:51pm
Ceffer
2021 Nov 18, 4:51pm
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
Stoned sober. That comes up every ten years or so, never works. They're just marketing handles to sell shit with hopium.
Psychedelic psilocybin cuts cravings and boosts key brain functions in rat models of alcohol use disorder
https://www.fiercebiotech.com/research/magic-mushrooms-might-be-next-treatment-tested-for-alcohol-addiction
Stoned sober. That comes up every ten years or so, never works. They're just marketing handles to sell shit with hopium.
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clambo
2021 Nov 19, 7:15am
People who are habitual users of something, or addicted to something, are very annoyed if you notice and disapprove.
I’m pretty clean living so even in Mexico I don’t drink much, which surprises some people.
I am visiting a female friend who has been through a difficult time recently; her partner and her old friend both died recently and she was nervous and lonely. She asked me to stay with her instead of the hotel I usually stay in, but she was drinking and chain smoking.
I bought her an electronic cigarette to limit the foulness of her habit. She says she’s happy with it.
I also don’t stay around at all if she has a girlfriend over and they start to pound beers; I think she was jealous of me going to the beach, fun restaurants and etc, without her and arriving at night. So, recently they have not come over, but she still craves beer.
Alcohol becomes an aldehyde after you consume it; aldehydes are extremely toxic.
Anecdotally, my friend lived in the sketchy part of Santa Cruz; the street girls who drank are dead, the heroin users are sometimes alive having quit, and the crack girls who quit left town. Some of the crack girls ended up dying from a heart attack.
I’m pretty clean living so even in Mexico I don’t drink much, which surprises some people.
I am visiting a female friend who has been through a difficult time recently; her partner and her old friend both died recently and she was nervous and lonely. She asked me to stay with her instead of the hotel I usually stay in, but she was drinking and chain smoking.
I bought her an electronic cigarette to limit the foulness of her habit. She says she’s happy with it.
I also don’t stay around at all if she has a girlfriend over and they start to pound beers; I think she was jealous of me going to the beach, fun restaurants and etc, without her and arriving at night. So, recently they have not come over, but she still craves beer.
Alcohol becomes an aldehyde after you consume it; aldehydes are extremely toxic.
Anecdotally, my friend lived in the sketchy part of Santa Cruz; the street girls who drank are dead, the heroin users are sometimes alive having quit, and the crack girls who quit left town. Some of the crack girls ended up dying from a heart attack.
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Patrick
2021 Nov 20, 12:43am
Patrick
2021 Nov 20, 12:43am
I do find that if I do not have my evening beer, I sleep better.
Just one beer at 6pm, but somehow it still has an impact 8 hours later.
Just one beer at 6pm, but somehow it still has an impact 8 hours later.
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WookieMan
2021 Nov 20, 8:24am
WookieMan
2021 Nov 20, 8:24am
Patrick says
One beer? Haha. Responsible for sure. I’m in Nashville right now. All day drinking. Pissed at the wife for dropping $300 on a Garth Brooks show at Ryman 2 hours before the show started.
I go Tuesday for Opeth at Ryman 3rd row. #realmusicians
I do find that if I do not have my evening beer, I sleep better.
Just one beer at 6pm, but somehow it still has an impact 8 hours later.
One beer? Haha. Responsible for sure. I’m in Nashville right now. All day drinking. Pissed at the wife for dropping $300 on a Garth Brooks show at Ryman 2 hours before the show started.
I go Tuesday for Opeth at Ryman 3rd row. #realmusicians
"One death is a tragedy. Thousands or millions of deaths are just numbers on a piece of paper."
Yesterday morning I was out doing errands. I was listening to the news in my car. I heard the sad and shocking report that some 100,000 people had died of drug overdoses in this country last year. It was up from 78,000 the year before.
I have some touching and sad personal experience with deaths due to substance abuse. From 1979 to 1980, I had a second job while living in Los Angeles. I was employed by a non-profit-The Mary Lind Foundation. Its goal was to treat those addicted to alcohol and drugs. I had great luck to be assigned to the Beverly Hills chapter of Alcoholics Anonymous. I found myself in the midst of television actors, movie actors, the president of Beverly Hills Bank, and children of truly big-name movie stars.
Three people stand out in my memory as follows:
Bill aged 54: He was a highly accomplished stage manager doing big-time plays all over L.A. He got me into plays, the production of television series, and even movie sets. He was a recovering alcoholic.
Tatiana aged 54: She was a very talented lady estranged from her husband of many years who was a professor at my alma mater-Tulane University. She was also a recovering alcoholic.
Loraine aged 26: She was a beautiful young woman with aspirations to be an actress. Cocaine addiction overtook her life.
My three clients were making remarkable progress. I had great hopes for all these people. I resigned from the Mary Lind Foundation to move from Los Angeles to Johannesburg in March of 1990. I got the shocking news that Bill, and Tatiana had died from complications due to their alcohol addiction. (This usually has something to do with the liver.) Loraine had died of a drug overdose.
Please use alcohol responsibly. Stay away from highly addictive drugs. Marijuana is not included here.