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2020 Aug 4, 10:47am   16,777 views  189 comments

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Teachers unions are the primary driver of systemic racism. Making sure kids don’t get an education and don’t get a choice of a different school. The poorer the kids are the worst they are affected and the less education they receive. This means that poor kids get poor educations and stay poor for their lives. If they don’t just drop out, join gangs, and wind up dead at a young age.

Now the teachers unions have managed to also fuck over working parents. People with jobs are expected to quit them to stay home with the kids and homeschool them. Regardless of their budgets of course. The only thing that matters to the teachers is that they get to stay home and still get paid.
Now the LA Unified School District has authorized free daycare for teachers who are parents, so they have someplace other than home (which is where they will be) to send their rug rats so they won’t have to care for them while “teaching online” everyone else’s kids who don’t get free day care.

In my neighborhood there are several gyms which have opened as daycare/schools able to provide daycare for school aged kids with staff who can help the kids with their online lessons. This costs $155-200/week and goes until 3PM same as a regular school day. Working parents who can’t be home with their kids to help them are expected to shell out $650-800/month per kid to “educate” their kids while public schools we all pay for are shuttered because teachers are scared of Covid. But NOT too scared to send their own kids to day cares as long as the school district pays for that!

Fuck teachers unions. Seriously.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/los-angeles-school-district-teachers-000213726.html

It’s in the article, buried:
“Teachers also will be provided with child care.”

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81   B.A.C.A.H.   2020 Sep 6, 2:56pm  

RC2006 says
teachers are not fleeing in droves from CA is because they are locked into a pention

Yes.

But then when they retire, they stampede out of here to Southern Oregon or Arizona or Carson City or other such places while we Losers and Suckers here in the state continue to backstop their pensions.
82   HeadSet   2020 Sep 6, 5:39pm  

But then when they retire, they stampede out of here to Southern Oregon or Arizona or Carson City or other such places while we Losers and Suckers here in the state continue to backstop their pensions.

I suppose they could pass a law In California that all California state and local government paid pensions will be taxed by California, regardless of where the pensioner resides. But I am sure a California judge would strike this down since it would affect the judge's pension. Therefore it may need to be a California constitutional amendment.
83   HeadSet   2020 Sep 8, 8:36am  

TrumpingTits says
HeadSet says
I suppose they could pass a law In California that all California state and local government paid pensions will be taxed by California, regardless of where the pensioner resides


Close. They did just that with all retirees fleeing Cali but Congress passed a law based on interstate commerce that banned it.


True, but a different concept. California wanted to tax all retirees based on how long they worked in California, and this tax pensions at a proportion to time in Ca. I can see how that would be disallowed, but hopefully they can make a case when California itself is supplying the pension.
86   Ceffer   2020 Sep 8, 11:10am  

FuckCCP89 says


That's easy. It's A. minus B. A little algebra goes a long way.
87   RC2006   2020 Sep 14, 7:01pm  

Week after I pull kids out ransomware attack takes down all online learning in their old school district and now all kids get zero education.
88   richwicks   2020 Sep 14, 7:36pm  

Ceffer says
FuckCCP89 says


That's easy. It's A. minus B. A little algebra goes a long way.


The answer, is D. Each of them have a bar line over them, labelled S. Why there's a block of "25" underneath C and D, I don't know, it might be an exercise to ignore data that isn't being included in the set?

The question is ambiguous, in that it's not clear if everything under S is included, or if only the first block is included. To add confusion, they call it a "diagram". That can be anything from a graph to a pictorial representation - they have to define what they mean by a "diagram".

Anyhow, this is what you get when you have a federal department of education and your last president got a 60 million dollar bribe for his "next book" they he never wrote after he gave $350 million dollars to Penguin Random House via Pearson Publishing.

https://www.vulture.com/2017/03/barack-and-michelle-obama-memoirs-bid-hits-usd60-million.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/12/obama_gave_commoncore_contract_to_publisher_got_65_million_book_deal_in_return.html
89   Shaman   2021 Feb 11, 8:27am  

Children of the wealthy are going to private schools or even public schools in person because their school boards opened them. Many districts which are wealthy around me are and have been open: Los Alamitos has been open all year, as has Irvine, Newport Beach, and now Huntington Beach. Meanwhile the poorer communities have had schools closed all year with no plans to reopen.
Most of the kids in these poor districts are failing, have problems logging in with substandard technology, have mental health issues and food insecurity, and are confined in small apartments trying to get educated while their parents have to go to their jobs in person. Being essential workers, their parents are being exposed to Covid, which drives up infection numbers for their zip codes, which gives their teacher’s union-dominated school boards justification to keep their local schools closed.
Which ensures that the kids(mostly minority) of the poor and lower middle class are NOT getting an education, or at least not much of one.

And who do we have to thank for this ongoing policy of SYSTEMIC RACISM? Why teachers unions and Democrats!
Thanks for keeping the brown people down you fucks!
I swear there’s nobody more racist than a Democrat.
90   WookieMan   2021 Feb 11, 9:23am  

Shaman says
I swear there’s nobody more racist than a Democrat.

Buying votes has a cost. The communities being bought need to wake the fuck up and understand they're being buggy whipped. It's not their fault, but they need to wake up and realize they're the pawn in the chess game. Won't change until that happens. Trump moved the needle, but if they can cheat, it needs to go next level. Not sure what that looks like.
91   RC2006   2021 Feb 11, 10:11am  

Month after lockdown many teachers started double dipping. Collecting public pay for half ass bullshit online education and teaching on the side in person to people who could afford it.
92   WookieMan   2021 Feb 11, 10:55am  

RC2006 says
Month after lockdown many teachers started double dipping. Collecting public pay for half ass bullshit online education and teaching on the side in person to people who could afford it.

This practice should be banned. If you file a W-2 or 1099, you should have your pension reduced an equal amount if collecting. Make $10k side gigging it, your pension payment drops $10k the next taxable year, or your pension is taxed for that $10k. We need to stop giving money away. It's sick as fuck.
93   RC2006   2021 Feb 11, 11:35am  

WookieMan says
RC2006 says
Month after lockdown many teachers started double dipping. Collecting public pay for half ass bullshit online education and teaching on the side in person to people who could afford it.

This practice should be banned. If you file a W-2 or 1099, you should have your pension reduced an equal amount if collecting. Make $10k side gigging it, your pension payment drops $10k the next taxable year, or your pension is taxed for that $10k. We need to stop giving money away. It's sick as fuck.


I'm talking about currently on the clock teachers, but ya same shit with the pension.
94   Misc   2021 Feb 12, 1:36am  

Cut the teachers some slack. First, most of them don't want to teach this "woke" shit that they are being forced to teach. They don't want to do actual work (yes, standing up in front of students and getting them to learn while babysitting a huge number of them is work), while the administrators play around with moving paper around especially when tons of the parents ain't working.

Also, they can read the info on their pensions 25% in stocks, 25% in private equity (ponzi schemes) and 50% in junk bonds (also ponzi schemes). They know their pensions simply don't exist.

There is simply no upward mobility available for the vast majority of their students and that's for the ones that can speak English. Added to that 20% of the school's budget is spent on kids with disabilities (don't get me wrong the kids are nice kids but a huge waste of resources).

It's hard to stay positive even without the prospects of job loss.
96   B.A.C.A.H.   2021 Feb 24, 7:37am  

Misc says
Cut the teachers some slack. First, most of them don't want to teach this "woke" shit that they are being forced to teach. They don't want to do actual work (yes, standing up in front of students and getting them to learn while babysitting a huge number of them is work), while the administrators play around with moving paper around especially when tons of the parents ain't working.


Please note that I write this as a TDS Left Coast Liberal.

The problem that I have with this argument is that they are not doing their streaming instruction from their classrooms. If they would do that, they would send a powerful message to the students about work ethic, the importance of school, etc. *IF*** you buy their argument that it's all about their safety from germs, - well, an empty classroom is going to be safer than much smaller, confined quarters at home with others. Instead too many of them are streaming from home, exploiting the situation to keep their commute costs down, solve their own daycare/childcare problems, and since no commute and no time spent grooming or dressing for the job or whatever, maybe sleeping a bit later.

Since the gyms are closed I've been getting my cardio by walking in neighborhoods all over San Jose, a city of over one million (probably more if you include the undocumented). I have walked past so many public schools K-12 in every corner of SJ with nearly empty parking lots... maybe five to ten cars, that's all.

Then I walked past Valley Christian High School, a private school in San Jose. Their HS instruction was also streaming only, classrooms closed to students. The faculty parking lot was packed with cars, even though no HS students on campus. It's obvious what is going on: those teachers have a professional work ethic.

What's the difference? Can you say, "Teacher Union?"
97   Shaman   2021 Feb 24, 10:23am  

My youngest has been going to school in person without masks all year. Private Christian school, FTW. Only Covid incident was when her teacher got the Covid from a house guest outside of school. She taught a couple days after exposure and possibly while sick, but none of the kids got sick at all. The teacher recovered after a couple weeks.
My son also went in person for a couple months, and his teacher also got Covid from a friend, outside of school. No kids were infected.

So much for the “danger” to kids from Covid at school! And NONE of the teachers at either school got sick from in school contact.
98   MisdemeanorRebel   2021 Feb 24, 9:31pm  

Misc says
There is simply no upward mobility available for the vast majority of their students and that's for the ones that can speak English. Added to that 20% of the school's budget is spent on kids with disabilities (don't get me wrong the kids are nice kids but a huge waste of resources).


Mainstreaming Kids who are older but can't speak a lick of English as well as Special Ed kids is a massive disaster.

Teachers and Schools are forced to spend far more time, resources on them by spreading them across every school rather than concentrating them in a single classroom or, if large enough, a single school.

This is done on purpose to create more teaching jobs and grow the EduAdmin Empire.
99   Patrick   2021 Feb 24, 10:23pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says
San Jose, a city of over one million (probably more if you include the undocumented)


Please, let's use the formally correct term "illegal aliens".

When we let them change our words, we also let them change our thoughts.

So it's Wuhan Virus as well, as it was in the beginning.
100   Misc   2021 Feb 25, 12:11am  

Patrick says
B.A.C.A.H. says
San Jose, a city of over one million (probably more if you include the undocumented)


Please, let's use the formally correct term "illegal aliens".

When we let them change our words, we also let them change our thoughts.

So it's Wuhan Virus as well, as it was in the beginning.


Hate to tell you this, but "illegal aliens" is a political correct term for them. Now New York fines people $10k for saying it.

I say we go back to the original term "wetbacks" --- at least you don't get fined for it.
101   B.A.C.A.H.   2021 Feb 25, 12:30pm  

Patrick says
Please, let's use the formally correct term "illegal aliens".


Sorry, I should have said "uncounted" because that's what I meant. Some, maybe many, of those uncounted in SJ are indeed illegal aliens. Many of them are also homeless American born haolies living on the streets, living under tarps and cardboard, the lucky ones living in old beater 1970's RV's. I see them every day as I walk through the city.

You can be snarkey and say they're all losers and their condition is all their fault, that's probably true for many of them. It wasn't my point. They have no residence, no address, and are uncounted in the census (as are, as your pointed out, the illegals).
102   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2021 Feb 25, 2:11pm  

Misc says
Hate to tell you this, but "illegal aliens" is a political correct term for them. Now New York fines people $10k for saying it.


NY can't fine you for speaking, the moment they fine you it'll be court ruled unconstitutional as there is a ton of precedent.
103   HeadSet   2021 Feb 26, 5:36am  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Misc says
Hate to tell you this, but "illegal aliens" is a political correct term for them. Now New York fines people $10k for saying it.


NY can't fine you for speaking, the moment they fine you it'll be court ruled unconstitutional as there is a ton of precedent.


True, but understand the State has unlimited resources to go after you. Even if the judge throws it out, you will be out some serious jack in legal costs. Speaking from experience. We had a militant blind old lady sue us because the cab driver made her use another of our company cabs when her service animal jumped into the front seat and licked the driver's face. No private attorney would take her case, but she was able to get a state government lawyer. We "won" with a dismissal, but the legal bill was about $100,000.
107   Shaman   2021 May 3, 7:31am  

There is no organization which is responsible for more systemic racism than the NFT. They literally took education away from millions of inner city children and then called reopening schools “racist.”
Why? Because they didn’t want to go to work. That’s literally it. They disenfranchised millions of poor at-risk minority kids who are now mostly gang members, just to make sure they could “work from home.”

A more despicable lot of brigands is not to be found in the USA.
108   WookieMan   2021 May 3, 7:51am  

Shaman says
Why? Because they didn’t want to go to work. That’s literally it. They disenfranchised millions of poor at-risk minority kids who are now mostly gang members, just to make sure they could “work from home.”

I usually keep a local affiliate from Chicago on in the background for news. Chicago is a war zone on pace to get above early 90's levels (worse than bad). There used to maybe be a monthly highway shooting. I hear stories damn near daily now. Nothing to go to Chicago for at this point anyway because not much is even open, but I might not go for a long while.

Before Covid I thought Lightfoot had promise, but she's been an unmitigated disaster for the city. No leadership skills. She lets her ilk run amok across the city with no consequence. There are still good parts of the city, but for the already bad parts to get worse is kind of mind boggling. I think I heard yesterday that a 2 year old was shot and killed... WTF?

Overall Chicago has a high crime rate. You get into specific neighborhoods though it's as dangerous as a war zone on the weekend. I'd rather chill with Muslims in Iraq or Syria. The kids need to be back and the schools normal. CTU (Chicago Teachers Union) is awful. Blacks are the most damaged from it, but even hispanic neighborhood are jumping in crime. You can't take kids out of the structure of school, even if the education is shit. They can't run the damn streets in a high crime city.
109   Shaman   2021 May 3, 7:58am  

“ As with the economic lockdowns, these blue-state school closures have disproportionately harmed poor and minority children. "The blunt fact is that it is Democrats—including those who run the West Coast, from California through Oregon to Washington State—who have presided over one of the worst blows to the education of disadvantaged Americans in history," wrote New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, nobody's idea of a conservative, on February 24. "The result: more dropouts, less literacy and numeracy, widening race gaps, and long-term harm to some of our most marginalized youth."

https://reason.com/2021/05/02/the-equity-mess/
110   B.A.C.A.H.   2021 May 3, 8:28am  

WookieMan says
I usually keep a local affiliate from Chicago on in the background for news


We take your word for it.

You live there, you've lived there for a long time. You know the zeitgeist of the place, you know what everyday people who don't holler for attention are like. We here in California, and the SF Bay Area, respect your insights, your views on the place. You know WTF you are talking about for your region.

But not for California, and not for the SF Bay Area.
111   WookieMan   2021 May 3, 9:03am  

B.A.C.A.H. says
But not for California, and not for the SF Bay Area.

I'm talking about big cities. Not just CA. Public sector unions shouldn't even be allowed to exist. I know you've mentioned in the past you've worked in/with schools I believe. My mom was a teacher. She was overpaid and now has a great pension. And yes, I could have taught and gotten the same benefits/pay. So it's not jealousy.

The issue most the public has with teachers anywhere is they always say it's for the kids. It's not and never has been. They have the classic narrative that they work X hours even though they have summers off and a bunch of other days off. Kids are literally roaming the streets of big cities right now because the teachers don't want to work. There's no other explanation. All this at the expense of the kids out of fear of a mundane virus.

And yes, administrators are awful too, more so than the teachers. They're just not part of the union generally and just answer to the school board for pay and hours.

Unions are bad for the good teachers and amazing for awful teachers. It's an extremely flawed system where ultimately taxpayers have to vote against their best interest just to get their kids to school. It shouldn't be that way.

Also, I think I'm pretty cordial with everyone here. You don't have to like my comments, and I'm not offended. My style is different. But I haven't appreciated the snarkiness lately. I'm free to make opinions about places on a forum like this. If I think CA is shit, I can think that. I don't, but I'm free to criticize my experiences and my understanding of CA, much of it from here. You have a bona fide recall attempt against your governor. That's no small feat and clearly shows CA is having some issues. Just because you live there doesn't mean it's attack against you or your choice to live there. Everyone has their reasons.
112   AmericanKulak   2021 May 5, 10:44pm  

The teachers Union must be destroyed.
113   Patrick   2021 May 13, 6:20pm  

https://blog.electkevinkiley.com/the-big-lie/

Here’s a line in the sand I’m ready to draw. I’ll never support any candidate for any office who propagated the Big Lie that opening schools was unsafe.

It’s been propagated in California like nowhere else. Biden’s Education Department just reported we have the fewest fourth graders in school full-time: 5 percent. Across all grades, we’ve lagged behind every state throughout the last year: 50th out of 50.

Who, specifically, is accountable for the Big Lie? Here’s who to start with:

Gavin Newsom. There may not be a person in the United States more culpable than Newsom, whose biggest campaign donor is teachers’ unions. Last Fall, he was one of only five governors to force schools to close; this Spring, he was the only West Coast governor not to make them open. All the while, Newsom had no problem “endangering” his own kids at a private school. He then added another lie, claiming they were in “Zoom school.”

Tony Thurmond. The State Superintendent, whom teachers’ unions spent $13 million installing, has peddled the Big Lie at every turn. When I cross-examined him last October, he tipped his hand that the plan was to keep schools closed the entire year or longer, breathlessly citing “new data” that “COVID could be with us well beyond 2021.”

The Legislature. It’s never questioned the Big Lie. After my “Killing our Kids for Nothing” speech in March, it rejected my Amendment to open schools immediately.

Education Committee Chairs. The Assembly Chair has refused to allow even a vote on my bills to reopen schools and fund students directly, has tried to mute my microphone, and has denied public comment. The Senate Education Chair just insanely proposed that distance learning continue “into the fall and possibly further.”

School Boards. After keeping schools closed this whole year, LA and SF Unified are now scamming the state for millions in extra funding with fake re-openings. SF will let two high schools offer in-person “supervision” once a week; LA has set up a Kafkaesque “Zoom in a Room” for 7 percent of students. It’s time to consider disbanding these farcically corrupt districts.

It’s also, of course, time to oust this historically corrupt Governor. Newsom recently tried to minimize the tragedy of learning loss by calling it “unfinished learning.” Perhaps he’s hoping we’ll refer to his Recall loss as an unfinished term.
116   AmericanKulak   2021 May 14, 10:21am  

‘She Sucked My D*ck’: Moms Go Thermonuclear Over NSFW Material In Class Reading Assignments

In a series of videos posted by Ian Prior on Twitter, parents read passages from books, including “Monday’s Not Coming” by Tiffany Jackson, which were apparently assigned to 9th grade students in Loudoun County Public Schools (LCPS). This is the same school board meeting where a mother blasted the school system’s use of critical race theory.

“She sucked my d*ck,” a parent read from a text.

Passages from Jackson’s book read by the furious parents included characters discussing oral sex, a female character being beaten and thrown into a closet and a sexual encounter in a classroom. The book “#MurderTrending” by Gretchen McNeil, was also quoted, where a female character discussed the size of a male friend’s genitalia.

“He had a big d*ck,” a parent read in the meeting.

“This is the definition of a hostile work environment,” one parent, holding up a poster featuring a list of LCPS policy violations, told the school board.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/13/loundoun-county-class-assignments-nsfw-virginia-school-board-meeting/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO7WNUbZmUQ

GoFundMe terminated a fundraiser for parents against CRT that was targeted by a Secret Woke EduAdmin Group:
https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/01/open-conspiracy-rights-gofundme-terminates-fundraiser-for-unwoke-parents-targeted-loudoun-county-critical-race-theory/

Keep attacking.

The Teacher's Union Must be Destroyed
118   Patrick   2021 May 14, 6:06pm  

Booger says
https://www.rightjournalism.com/morbidly-obese-teacher-yells-at-a-skinny-vaccinated-student-for-not-wearing-a-mask-and-calls-him-a-jerk-receive-instant-justice/



Morbidly Obese Teacher Yells At A Skinny Vaccinated Student For Not Wearing A Mask And Calls Him A Jerk – Receive Instant Justice
A video shared on social media that has been filmed at Poynette High School showed a teacher yelling at a student and saying the teen could still spread COVID-19 even though he was vaccinated. The teacher can be heard calling the student a “dink,” “jerk” and “dummy” throughout the video.

“I don’t care if you’re vaccinated, you little dink,” the teacher told the student in the video. “I don’t want to get sick and die. There’s other people you can infect just because you’re vaccinated. You know what? You’re not a special person around here.

“You should hear about how everyone talks about you around here. You’re a jerk. You’re a jerk. And you need to have respect for other people in your life. You’re not a big man on campus, quit walking around here like you have a stick up your butt.” ...

It seems that the teacher received instant karma, as soon as the video was shared on social media District Administrator Matthew Shappell decided to place her on leave.


Nice!
119   Ceffer   2021 May 14, 7:08pm  

Patrick says
District Administrator Matthew Shappell decided to place her on leave.

Probably with full pay and benefits. She'll be cramming fast food down her pie hole watching soap operas on the public dime, and go back to teaching later 100 pounds heavier.
120   Onvacation   2021 May 14, 9:58pm  

Here ya go

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