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2023 Jun 26, 12:58pm   2,683 views  44 comments

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I am thinking about starting a side hustle/business which I hope will grow and my mainstream work. So far, I established a LLC and funded it with 75k. But I don't know which business to start/buy. Patnetters, any ideas regarding which businesses are a good option AND which businesses are a bad option? I thought about a restaurant but I don't like this business.

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23   gabbar   2023 Jun 27, 5:10am  

GNL says


I think you tipped me but I do not see an email from you.

I sent you my contact information in the tipping form.
I will try it again. Let me know if it worked this time.
24   NuttBoxer   2023 Jun 27, 7:40am  

You'd think taking photos of a property are easy, but I've seen SO MANY rental advertisements with super close up, same room a million angles and no bedroom shots, photos out of order when it comes to layout of house, ridiculously bright where color looks off-world, or wide lens where you lose all perspective of space.

I think I'd like a job doing this, and I've lived in all kinds of neighborhoods, so I'd shoot anywhere. I'm very good a blending in.
25   GNL   2023 Jun 27, 7:45am  

gabbar says

GNL says



I think you tipped me but I do not see an email from you.

I sent you my contact information in the tipping form.
I will try it again. Let me know if it worked this time.

Oh, I guess I don't know how that works. @Patrick @gabbar

Patrick, will you give gabbar my email please so he can contact me directly? Thanks.
26   GNL   2023 Jun 27, 8:10am  

NuttBoxer says


You'd think taking photos of a property are easy, but I've seen SO MANY rental advertisements with super close up, same room a million angles and no bedroom shots, photos out of order when it comes to layout of house, ridiculously bright where color looks off-world, or wide lens where you lose all perspective of space.

I think I'd like a job doing this, and I've lived in all kinds of neighborhoods, so I'd shoot anywhere. I'm very good a blending in.

1. Taking the photos is the easy part IF you have the right equipment.
2. "Super close up" means they did not use a wide angle lens (a good wide angle lens is $1,000). No, they probably used an iphone.
3. "million angles of same room" means it is a small space/apt/house and the magic number of photos is 30. Agents generally want at least 30 photos. Some believe if they take less than 30 photos, their listings will not get as good of exposure. 30 is the magic number.
4. "photos out of order" could be 1 of a few things...a. the photographer delivered out of order. b. the slideshow does not have a way to reorder them or the agent was too lazy to do it. c. etc.
5. "no bedroom shots" could mean, yes they were missed OR maybe it is a rental and the room looks like shit OR even better, the renter (it could be a group house) is still sleeping. Going into other people's homes is a special kind of experience. Especially if it is anything other than a husband and wife selling their home and they are not in the middle of a divorce. In my career, I have photographed over 10,000 homes and I have almost 10,000 stories.
6. "color looks off-world" means bad editing (in this system, you do not edit. No, you send it overseas through the system) and/or a bad lens. Ask a serious photographer what the most important piece of equipment is and they will tell you...1. your vision. taking the right angles is important. and 2. a good lens. Every lens has color considerations. If you're going to spend a lot of money, spend it on glass as they say.
7. you MUST use a wide angle lens. We use 16mm on full frame cameras. That is considered ultra-wide. We lost a client because 16mm was not wide enough. We may soon require all of our photographers to have a 14mm.

14mm on a full frame camera is considered UFW (Ultra fucking wide).

If you're interested in running your own RE photography business and you do not mind going into dark areas, I would bet you can do very well. You will get a reputation of going into those dark areas and can charge a premium,
27   zzyzzx   2023 Jun 27, 8:13am  

Patrick says

GNL Do you ever have to go to bad neighborhoods where your equipment might get stolen?


People in bad neighborhoods aren't going to be using professional photographers to take pictures of their real estate.
28   GNL   2023 Jun 27, 8:17am  

zzyzzx says


Patrick says


GNL Do you ever have to go to bad neighborhoods where your equipment might get stolen?


People in bad neighborhoods aren't going to be using professional photographers to take pictures of their real estate.


A smart agent would. It just doesn't cost that much to get "professional" photos for a listing. Is $180 a lot of money to an agent whose commission is even as low as $1,000? I can show you some serious shitholes we have photographed. Here is my closing line when I am trying to sell a Realtor..."If you're not online, you're invisible."

Or I hit them with this line..."Every listing deserves the best photos you can provide." GOOD Realtors care about their reputation. If clients see the agent doing EVERYTHING they can for their clients, they end up getting a shit ton more referrals. GOOD Realtors are not shortsighted.
29   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2023 Jun 27, 8:39am  

If you like pets, here are a few suggestions.

Requiring minimal investment except, probably, insurance;

Dog walking business.

Pet sitting business. We’ve used these before when we traveled. Dog stays at home. Sitter can sleep in, or make periodic visits to walk dog, feed dog, play with dog, etc.

Requiring investment:

Dog boarding business. We use one, and she is always booked. She has about ten pens set up in her garage. Not cheap, either.
30   gabbar   2023 Jun 27, 12:07pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says


Dog boarding business. We use one, and she is always booked. She has about ten pens set up in her garage. Not cheap, either.

We pay 25/day to our dog boarders. They are a retired couple. Do it out of their home. They usually have about 5 to 10 days on most days. Most people pay in cash. They are popular in town. But this business is not for me.
31   WookieMan   2023 Jun 27, 12:36pm  

gabbar says

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Dog boarding business. We use one, and she is always booked. She has about ten pens set up in her garage. Not cheap, either.

We pay 25/day to our dog boarders. They are a retired couple. Do it out of their home. They usually have about 5 to 10 days on most days. Most people pay in cash. But this is not for me.

It's 7 days a week. Big commitment AND liability if a dog/pet dies under your handling.

Maybe it was weird timing but our boarders husband died when we put down our last dog. She closed down. We'd board at least 6-8 times a year over a decade with them. Sad for my dog, but you kind of get to know the owners. Hill Billy out in the country but good people. When you see someone 50-70 times between drop off and pick up conversation is started, you get to know them.
32   gabbar   2023 Jun 27, 12:44pm  

WookieMan says

Hill Billy out in the country but good people.

Sometimes, hillbillies get painted with a bad brush in our society. For example, there is a stereotype about people from Kentucky. There are good and bad people everywhere. I reckon one could find hillbilly type of people in any major city too. It just depends. We are good friends with out dog boarders. But the husband chews my ears out, he loves to talk about his good old days.
33   clambo   2023 Jun 27, 6:19pm  

Re: Pizza my Heart.
I didn't know the guys but it's true.
I arrived in Santa Cruz in 1982 and they had 2 locations; Capitola and Santa Cruz.
Previously, it was always just out of the oven.
They made 1. Plain 2. Random pizza with a topping (pepperoni, mushroom, pesto)
So you either got one just out of the oven that was plain or you could wait and see what came out in a few minutes.
Warmed up pizza; fogedaboudit!
Now it's all fucked up.
The best pizza today in Santa Cruz is Pizzeria la Bufala, it's outstanding.
I know about pizza; the first pizza I ate was made by two guys from Naples Italy with a pizzeria in Staten Island which is still open.
34   WookieMan   2023 Jun 27, 6:24pm  

You hear about NYC trying to ban wood fired and coal fired pizza ovens? Don't have the link handy. Another sign of going full retard on an American classic for "green."
35   clambo   2023 Jun 27, 6:40pm  

Re: coal and wood pizza oven ban in NYC:
This is how absurd dimwit politicians can get; there are likely fewer than 10 coal fired ovens in all of NYC.
Before the EPA, NYC apartment buildings burned their trash.
You can see the smoke in pictures of the NYC skyline from the 60's. Smoke is coming from the tops of tall apartment buildings.
36   gabbar   2023 Jun 28, 4:01am  

I have an interview scheduled with UPS to franchise one of their stores. I don't like this, it can be hard work (lifting packages of various weights). But I will participate in the interview.

One of our friends used to franchise a coffee shop. She said a lot of money went to the franchiser.
37   GNL   2023 Jun 28, 7:23am  

In my opinion, franchisers aren't entrepreneurs. They bought a job and many are very long hours and/or dealing with low pay work staff. But if it pays enough...
38   gabbar   2023 Jul 29, 10:47am  

So the LLC I started, I never filed taxes for it because I only bought a computer and a couple of domains through its bank account. Am I in trouble with the government tax departments for not filing taxes?
39   WookieMan   2023 Jul 29, 11:12am  

gabbar says

So the LLC I started, I never filed taxes for it because I only bought a computer and a couple of domains through its bank account. Am I in trouble with the government tax departments for not filing taxes?

Not tax advice at all. But you're probably totally fine. I let my LLC's lapse. It's government. A big nothing burger usually. If you made money then you might have problems if you didn't report. Otherwise they give no shits 9 out of 10 times. Lots of people start things and don't follow through. They're after the people that follow through and make a bunch of money. Not a knock. I have 2-3 LLC's and a bunch a websites. I don't even know WTF is going on in reality with my new job. I don't care. Neither does the government until you make a profit on it.
40   AmericanKulak   2023 Jul 29, 11:15am  

gabbar says

So the LLC I started, I never filed taxes for it because I only bought a computer and a couple of domains through its bank account. Am I in trouble with the government tax departments for not filing taxes?

If you made no profits, you have no problems.
42   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2023 Dec 12, 7:04am  

AmericanKulak says

gabbar says


So the LLC I started, I never filed taxes for it because I only bought a computer and a couple of domains through its bank account. Am I in trouble with the government tax departments for not filing taxes?

If you made no profits, you have no problems.

Not sure about LLC’s, and it may vary by state, but C Corp’s have to file with the state, and there is a minimum tax to be paid, even if no revenue and no profits.
43   HeadSet   2023 Dec 12, 11:55am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Not sure about LLC’s, and it may vary by state, but C Corp’s have to file with the state, and there is a minimum tax to be paid, even if no revenue and no profits.

And your locality.
44   GNL   2023 Dec 12, 1:02pm  

I met a "Santa" today. He charges $300 for the first hour and $150 for each additional hour. He doesn't do the mall thing. Only private parties, events and company event type stuff.

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