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richwicks says

I wondered why an all powerful, omnipotent GOOD God would decide to have his SON brutally tortured and killed, when he was omnipotent and therefore could make any condition He wanted to redeem mankind?

I think in the context of bronze/Iron Age religions, including Judaism, Jesus’ sacrifice fulfilled any further need for burnt offerings and effectively ended human sacrifice. From what I gather, sacrifices would come from a slave or low caste group, particularly their children. I suspect the widespread adoption of Christianity had something to do with avoiding this fate.

As an aside, I also suspect the Aztec practice of sacrificing ethnic outgroups had something to do with Cortez’s victory. A handful of ships and 200 men had no chance against 10’s of thousands — unless the underclass joined Cortez to overthrow their Aztec oppressors. Fun that now, descendants of Aztecs (and conquistadors) are granted special privileges to atone for white malfeasance.

goofus says

I think in the context of bronze/Iron Age religions, including Judaism, Jesus’ sacrifice fulfilled any further need for burnt offerings and effectively ended human sacrifice. From what I gather, sacrifices would come from a slave or low caste group, particularly their children. I suspect the widespread adoption of Christianity had something to do with avoiding this fate.

As an aside, I also suspect the Aztec practice of sacrificing ethnic outgroups had something to do with Cortez’s victory. A handful of ships and 200 men had no chance against 10’s of thousands — unless the underclass joined Cortez to overthrow their Aztec oppressors. Fun that now, descendants of Aztecs (and conquistadors) are granted special privileges to atone for white malfeasance.

I seriously don't want to argue religion anymore. I would have relished it 15 years ago.

I can pick the Christian religion apart, but it doesn't benefit anybody. It's like stealing a security blanket from a little kid. It's just mean to do. The religion has some decent aspects, at least they oppose transgendering little kids although that's not a direct aspect of the religion. They just put the breaks on a lot of "new" ideas and that's not often a bad thing.

More a wishful agnostic (sure would be nice to see loved ones again), but no, the historical context was just to understand why people then (in the first centuries AD) might have seen the sacrifice as the act of a loving god.

richwicks says

It's kind of perplexing they don't do this. Give a kid $100,000 - set them up financially, help them make good investments, and allow them to know what they are doing. It's weird they don't do this.

They don’t care about the kid. If they can get what they want from her for $2-$4k that is what they will do. It’s about using people, not helping them. And I don’t believe Prince Andrew could get the same thing in England, or he would have done it there. Present evidence of blackmail or it didn’t happen.richwicks says

John Birch Society

There were many authors producing books, pamphlets, running seminars, and even some politicians like Ron Paul throughout the 60’s even through today. The internet just made it easier to find them, but they have always been there. They predate the WWW. Truth didn’t magically appear out of nowhere.richwicks says

It may take months or years, it doesn't take decades anymore.

The point is it doesn’t matter. They still get what they want. By the time enough people know the truth, they are vilified like J6ers, Snowden, etc...richwicks says

I know it couldn't have happened just like it said in Genesis. I know Noah's ark couldn't be real if only because of the diversity of species we have, and pretty simple physics.

You’re funny. The God of the universe could not find a way to pack 2-7 of each kind (would not have needed adult animals just a baby male and female) into the arc. Don’t be ridiculous. That is barely even a miracle. The miracle is that they came to the arc for the rescue in the first place. It’s a picture of the rescue you need.richwicks says

My viewpoint is that if there is a religion, it's purposely shielded from us, and you don't have to become literate, and read a 1000 page book to attain something approaching divinity. IF it exists, it's innate within all of us and purposely hidden from us.

That doesn’t make sense. What does make sense is that God created Adam in His image. Body, Soul, Spirit. When Adam sinned, he died a spiritual death. All his descendants are born spiritually dead. But the Spirit of God can reach and awaken any person who is willing to listen to that Spirit. You don’t need to read to know God, but you do need to listen when He is striving with you. Reject Him, and you will remain dead in your sins. richwicks says

I did wonder what it was called The Tree of Knowledge.

It was the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Before they ate of it, they did not know what evil was. But now we do. Evil is simply anything that offends God. Put another way, if you cannot in good faith do it, it is sin. Even avoiding doing what is right, is sin. So sin is the problem, but the answer is not to be sinless, because that is impossible. The answer is forgiveness because that is freely given by the God who loved us even when we broke fellowship with Him.
richwicks says

the early Inquisition.

If you think Christianity has anything to do with the inquisition you misunderstood history and Christianity. Jesus set the pattern, if people are not following Him, they are NOT Christians.richwicks says

I wondered why an all powerful, omnipotent GOOD God would decide to have his SON brutally tortured and killed, when he was omnipotent and therefore could make any condition He wanted to redeem mankind?

God is consistent. He limits Himself to what He said. He is not omnipotent, because he cannot lie, cannot be unjust, and cannot make a way to reconcile man to himself without bearing the punishment instead of man. That is what sets God apart from all other gods, He was willing to sacrifice, to pay the penalty Himself. If He ignored the penalty of sin, He would not be righteous. But since He is righteous, He paid the penalty for us. richwicks says

My fear is pantheism

That is ridiculous. Essence of the human soul is intention. Animals might be meat puppets but humans are not. The ability to choose is what defines a soul. And a soul will reap the rewards or consequences of their choices. The soul that knows God, will receive the gifts of God. The soul that rejects God, will know the regret of eternal life without God. That is the choice, life with God, or eternal separation from God.

The latest interview of Col. Macgregor. IMO, a brilliant assessment of the true situation as it now stands in Ukraine.
Also covers what's happening economically in Germany, along with what's really happening in Russia, including the distinct possibility of 'total mobilization.' Macgregor states that the world is in the most dangerous situation since the Cuban Missile Crisis:

This was a trap that the Russians set for the Ukrainians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W_5pDZS46M

RayAmerica says

Macgregor states that the world is in the most dangerous situation since the Cuban Missile Crisis:

I take issue with this.

Our government has done everything it could do possible to keep us in a continual state of terror. Don't you remember covid is going to kill us all?

I remember when CNN was interviewing people who were (supposedly) buying gas masks because Saddam Hussein was going to gas the Eastern Seaboard back in 1991. I don't think WWIII can be fought now, although the Neocunts are pushing for it. For it to happen, the US would have to start it and although I think the Neocunts are allowed free reign to cause chaos across the world, I think they are much more restricted in the US, although plenty of Neocunts are allowing importation of illegal aliens.

I think the military DOES have a limit. We'll see.

I really think the US military would obliterate Israel before they would allow a nuclear war between the United States and Russia. At the end, they will pick their own survival over the survival of a foreign state.

richwicks says

I think the military DOES have a limit. We'll see.

I really think the US military would obliterate Israel before they would allow a nuclear war between the United States and Russia. At the end, they will pick their own survival over the survival of a foreign state.

I hope you are right, for all of our sakes. But have you seen the top brass, from the vacant, lying Austin to woke Milley? The rank and file would resist, but when have lower ranks set military policy.

Milley would probably think he was ending ‘white supremacy’ by overthrowing Putin, consequences be damned.

Here's the facts!


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According to Patrick Lancaster he says he never runs into any Mainstream Media when he's on the ground in conflict areas. And he says often the BBC and AP takes his footage and distorts it. He reports on a Ministry of Science building being bombed out by American made bombs, with proof to back it up. The Mainstream media takes his footage and edits it without sound and says, Russia bombed out a children's hospital.

I tend to have to believe him and until anyone can show me any footage or reporting on the ground from the conflict zone that debunks his reports, I'll continue to believe him, while calling those people useful idiots and full of shit..

Tenpoundbass says

According to Patrick Lancaster he says he never runs into any Mainstream Media when he's on the ground in conflict areas. And he says often the BBC and AP takes his footage and distorts it. He reports on a Ministry of Science building being bombed out by American made bombs, with proof to back it up. The Mainstream media takes his footage and edits it without sound and says, Russia bombed out a children's hospital.

I almost wonder whether the “children’s hospital” is a tell of bs. Not just any hospital, a children’s hospital; not just any school, a preschool, and so on, to tug at heart strings. There seemed a lot of that early in the war, especially. And meanwhile, at least in this case, it was the “Ukrainian” (US) side doing the bombing, and of a completely unrelated building.

goofus says

I almost wonder whether the “children’s hospital” is a tell of bs. Not just any hospital, a children’s hospital; not just any school, a preschool, and so on, to tug at heart strings. There seemed a lot of that early in the war, especially. And meanwhile, at least in this case, it was the “Ukrainian” (US) side doing the bombing, and of a completely unrelated building.

Warmongers have long used the supposed killing of children by their targeted 'enemy' for as long as there has been such a thing as war, and, it is a very effective propaganda technique. Back in WW I and prior to America's involvement 'over there,' artist renditions of the evil Hun soldiers with babies on their bayonets was common. It never happened, but it enraged the American public, which was being primed to accept getting involved in a war that had nothing to do with us. Similar propaganda was used to justify the first Gulf War because "babies were being removed from incubators and thrown on the floor" by Saddam's evil troops ... an event that never happened ... but was repeated over and over again by President George H. W. Bush along with the corporate media.

Not long after the conflict began in Ukraine, a broadcast news story showed a seemingly dead Ukraine boy in the arms of a weeping adult ... killed no doubt on the orders of the evil Putin. When I saw the broadcast, I was with a friend whose only grandson was about the same age as the victim. Suddenly, this man, who is ordinarily fairly stoic, became very emotional because he related the graphic tragedy to his own grandson. From that point on, he supported Ukraine and was convinced that Russia and that evil Putin needed to be destroyed, even if it led to Nuclear War!

What I find interesting is this; many of the same people that believe that the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccines' were meant to kill us and that the media lied to us, believe the media's reporting of the Ukraine war. Strange to say the least.

RayAmerica says

Not long after the conflict began in Ukraine, a broadcast news story showed a seemingly dead Ukraine boy in the arms of a weeping adult ... killed no doubt on the orders of the evil Putin. When I saw the broadcast, I was with a friend whose only grandson was about the same age as the victim. Suddenly, this man, who is ordinarily fairly stoic, became very emotional because he related the graphic tragedy to his own grandson. From that point on, he supported Ukraine and was convinced that Russia and that evil Putin needed to be destroyed, even if it led to Nuclear War!

What I find interesting is this; many of the same people that believe that the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccines' were meant to kill us and that the media lied to us, believe the media's reporting of the Ukraine war. Strange to say the least.

Yes, I saw the same thing with family members over the “Syrian refugee crisis” of 2015. Remember baby Aylan, a toddler clad in red shoes, who had drowned crossing the Mediterranean? Our son was of similar age, and I remember thinking this is tragic but yikes, propaganda. The emotional impact hit others in the family much harder. The change from resistance to mass immigration to passive acceptance was remarkable (and the family in question hails from Europe and has much to lose). The demographic changes since then to the home country have been staggering, from crime to graffiti, to the loss of casual outdoor gatherings.

There’s a name for that latter phenomenon. What is it called, where you know your field has been misrepresented but believe reporting for other fields uncritically?

RayAmerica says

What I find interesting is this; many of the same people that believe that the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccines' were meant to kill us and that the media lied to us, believe the media's reporting of the Ukraine war. Strange to say the least.

Finally remembered what this is called:

“Knoll’s law of media accuracy is the adage that ‘everything you read in the newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have firsthand knowledge.’ For example, Knoll’s law suggests that someone might watch a news story about an event that they were personally involved with, and notice that the story is full of errors, but then forget that these types of errors exist when watching news stories about other events, with which they’re not as familiar.“

https://effectiviology.com/knolls-law/

Latest video from Macgregor ... IMO, very interesting:

Col Macgregor and Prof Glenn Diesen on Russia's Growing Offensive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdQwBWqcJ_g

goofus says

For example, Knoll’s law suggests that someone might watch a news story about an event that they were personally involved with, and notice that the story is full of errors, but then forget that these types of errors exist when watching news stories about other events, with which they’re not as familiar.“

I just generally don't believe it if I or a trusted person didn't see it. For all we know there is no war in Ukraine. Has anyone you know been to Ukraine lately? Not talking 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon type information either. You know the person.

I don't know anyone. We're sending billions and yet I never see any reports from Kyiv from the 3 letter networks with a guy wearing a helmet and a vest reporting. Yes I know there's not active combat there, supposedly. For as many dead on either side are being claimed, it's probably the biggest war story since the Korean war or Vietnam. If 6 figure death toll reports are true, this is a major news story that should have reporters there.

I know American journalist are used to comfy cozy wars, but where are they? I've heard random reports that 100-200k are dead excluding civilian. In a little over a year. That's nuts. We killed a ton in the ME, but we technically lost little for 20 year wars.

WookieMan says

I don't know anyone. We're sending billions and yet I never see any reports from Kyiv from the 3 letter networks with a guy wearing a helmet and a vest reporting.

You don't see this from Yemen or Syria either.

They do feed us shit and keep us in the dark.

It would be funny if this war is much smaller than we're told. Wouldn't be the first time I was tricked by The Big Lie.

WookieMan says

I've heard random reports that 100-200k are dead excluding civilian.

I've heard 300,000 dead on the Ukrainian side and a little less than 50,000 for Russia - but who knows?

When are we going to see those F16's go up in magnificent Russian fireballs with the kids and old people piloting them? Oh, I forgot, they may have already been sold to Mexican cartels and the profits laundered back to Biden and select Congress critters.

https://t.me/greatreject/51300

Latest interview video with Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Dr. Ravassi & Col Macgregor: Disastrous attacks into Russian defenses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OSuhY12PpE

Recent interview of award winning journalist Seymour Hersh. Well worth the time to watch:

“Putin Has Got All He Wants…” Seymour Hersh On Russia-Ukraine War & What Could Happen Next

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2YWBZKF0Gk

MacGregor does a daily talk.

https://www.youtube.com/@DouglasMacgregorStraightCalls

PeopleUnited says

There were many authors producing books, pamphlets, running seminars, and even some politicians like Ron Paul throughout the 60’s even through today. The internet just made it easier to find them, but they have always been there. They predate the WWW. Truth didn’t magically appear out of nowhere

You don't understand. You don't have to be part of an "in group" anymore to know what is going on. That's the purpose of the internet, to break up insular groups.

PeopleUnited says

The point is it doesn’t matter. They still get what they want. By the time enough people know the truth, they are vilified like J6ers, Snowden, etc..

If this was 1990, Snowden would have been Jonathan Pollard and he would have received ZERO support or coverage. His leaks would have gone nowhere. There would be no Julian Assange. If Assange wrote a book (somehow - how would he have received his information) he would have been assassinated like Gary Webb was for ONE revelation, not 100's.

99% of the country would be January 6th WAS an insurrection, not 1/2 of the country.

We wouldn't be talking. Maybe you're just too old to appreciate what we have. I'm talking to a people in Turkey, Brazil, and China right and we're comparing notes. I'm the elder of the group (of course) and I can explain what they don't know. They're in their 20's. We compare notes across national borders.

Kicked one asshole off the group from San Francisco because "he disagreed", but couldn't explain why, or about what - he just didn't believe certain FACTS. You can get rid of trouble makers in a day. There's STILL people that argue to "win the argument" not to be right. That was EVERYBODY in 1990 but today, there's huge groups of people who know they don't know what is going on, and WANT to know what is going on.

We've never been in a place like this before. One guy I'm talking to is a fanatical Muslim, he knows I'm an atheist, and we can still talk. I don't know what religion the guy from Brazil or China has, if any. I don't consider it particularly important.

You just can't appreciate where we are. Government propaganda is dismantled in days, if not hours and that's a good thing.

I'm bored and need enterntainment.

Any fresh juicy predictions from that shoe size IQ McGregor cunt?

Eric Holder says

I'm bored and need enterntainment.

Any fresh juicy predictions from that shoe size IQ McGregor cunt?

Don't be stupid.

The latest news from the money hole known as Ukraine:

The Ukrainians got obliterated far from the Russian security line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QDEGipA_YU

The latest video from Col. McGregor:

1,000,000 Russian troops all the way around Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeKBsUNJLM

I was giving my propaganda brainwashed friend some background on Ukraine, and gave him a reference to The Duran for more balanced coverage from mainstream propaganda mills.

I have studied him closely, and I think he prefers the gruel of propaganda lies because it is easy to digest and keeps him in a calm state of denial. He doesn't want to undergo the grief therapy associated with recognizing the true, dismal state of things. He is a 'propaganda addict' having all of his thoughts, feelings, analysis and motives provided to him in a feedbag, and the withdrawal process is too painful.

He told me that I should just relax and accept the state of propaganda as less stressful mind dope. He knows something isn't right, but he wants to be cradled and suckled by the escapist propaganda rather than engaging the awakening requirements.

Ceffer says

He told me that I should just relax and accept the state of propaganda as less stressful mind dope. He knows something isn't right, but he wants to be cradled and suckled by the escapist propaganda rather than engaging the awakening requirements.

"Take the blue pill."

I'm going to watch "The Manchurian Candidate" tonight with my 14 yo son. Considering the state of our government, I think the film underestimated the extent our political system could be corrupted. I'm waiting until he's older until I suggest "1984," although that and "Animal Farm" are on my summer reading list for him.

All unfiltered truth in one place:

stereotomy says

I'm going to watch "The Manchurian Candidate" tonight with my 14 yo son. Considering the state of our government, I think the film underestimated the extent our political system could be corrupted. I'm waiting until he's older until I suggest "1984," although that and "Animal Farm" are on my summer reading list for him.

UPDATE: He loved it, and was on the edge of his seat for at least half of it. I had to promise that I wouldn't inject political commentary during the feature.

stereotomy,

Which version of the Manchurian Candidate did you watch?

stereotomy says

stereotomy says

I'm going to watch "The Manchurian Candidate" tonight with my 14 yo son. Considering the state of our government, I think the film underestimated the extent our political system could be corrupted. I'm waiting until he's older until I suggest "1984," although that and "Animal Farm" are on my summer reading list for him.

UPDATE: He loved it, and was on the edge of his seat for at least half of it. I had to promise that I wouldn't inject political commentary during the feature.

Did you watch the original 1962 film with Angela Lansbury, or the 2004 remake?

Angela Lansbury played a convincing Hillary Clinton in that film...

stereotomy says

I'm going to watch "The Manchurian Candidate" tonight with my 14 yo son.

Was this the old movie, or ObamaFuck's election?

richwicks says

Did you watch the original 1962 film with Angela Lansbury, or the 2004 remake?

Angela Lansbury played a convincing Hillary Clinton in that film...

Ceffer says

Was this the old movie, or ObamaFuck's election?

'Natch, it was the 1962 film. Since I had promised my son not to spout political commentary during the film, I didn't try to ascribe specific modern analogies to the characters. Now that richwicks mentions it - yeah it's fucked up how Angie nails the IHLlary. I wonder who Senator Jordan (the good guy, not the Iselin character) was supposed to represent - especially considering this was 1962 and JFK would be capped in the next year.

EDIT: Ha - https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-the-manchurian-candidate-1962

The film has become so linked with the Kennedy assassination that a legend has grown up around it. Frank Sinatra, the film's star, purchased the rights and kept it out of release from 1964 until 1988, and the story goes that he was inspired by remorse after Kennedy's death. In fact, the director John Frankenheimer told me, Sinatra had a dispute with United Artists about the profits, and decided it would earn no money for the studio or anyone else. The DVD includes a conversation by Sinatra, Frankenheimer and writer George Axelrod, taped when the movie was finally re-released. Sinatra says it was the high point of his acting career; nobody mentions why it was unseen for 24 years.

Over two hours long, but well worth the time. Don't miss this fantastic interview with Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Col. Douglas Macgregor | PBD Podcast

In this Episode, Col. Douglas Macgregor joins PBD and Tom. They discuss Russia, Ukraine, the woke military, the Trump Tape, China, and much more. Douglas Macgregor is a decorated combat veteran, the author of five books, graduate of West Point, a PhD, and a Defense and Foreign Policy consultant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o92oSgU17Lo

Another great interview with Col. Douglas Macgregor.

Explains, among other items, cluster bombs, and why he considers them to be so evil.

Douglas Macgregor & Kim Iversen: The Russians Have 750.000 Troops Ready to Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0rgUwpHX6M

Biden Says The US Is Low On Artillery Ammunition...

That is why he is sending cluster bombs to Ukraine until more munitions are produced!

Biden told CNN "This is a war relating to munitions. And they’re running out of that ammunition, and we’re low on it. And so... I took the recommendation of the Defense Department to allow... [the cluster bombs]"

A White House official said: "We are authorizing cluster munitions to ensure that Ukraine is not left defenseless while we wait for our own domestic production of ammunition to ramp up substantially..." https://nypost.com/2023/07/09/biden-lets-slip-during-interview-us-low-on-artillery-ammunition-rounds-as-it-tries-to-aid-ukraine/

Wow, we are waiting "for our own domestic production of ammunition to ramp up substantially!"

In other words the rape and plunder of the USA is so complete we don't have any artillery shells left to defend ourselves!

The_Deplorable says

A White House official said: "We are authorizing cluster munitions to ensure that Ukraine is not left defenseless while we wait for our own domestic production of ammunition to ramp up substantially..." https://nypost.com/2023/07/09/biden-lets-slip-during-interview-us-low-on-artillery-ammunition-rounds-as-it-tries-to-aid-ukraine/

Wow, we are waiting "for our own domestic production of ammunition to ramp up substantially!"

Somebody needs to get on www.alibaba.com...

Seriously - some parts of our military equipment is made in China. That's how clueless and incompetent our government is.

The_Deplorable says

In other words the rape and plunder of the USA is so complete we don't have any artillery shells left to defend ourselves!

Well, that's what Americans get for allowing their government to rape and pillage for 20 years a bunch of countries that we have no fucking business being in. This is what people deserve when they can't even be troubled to know what wars the United States is in.

This are the chickens coming home to roost.