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I never heard my parents, aunts, uncles or grandparents swear.
The epithet I remember my father saying was "that pinhead". I think he also said "god bless us" not "god dammit"

Unfortunately I swear too much. I should clean up my act; maybe it's too late.

There's a balance and a time and place for it.

Fuck it.

I started swearing with the Wuhan and the governments attempt to enslave us. Fuck them.

And fuck it.

Onvacation says

Fuck it.

I started swearing with the Wuhan and the governments attempt to enslave us. Fuck them.

And fuck it.

Yes. You mentioned that before. You didn't swear previously here. I honestly find it to be more effective to get the point and emotion to who it's being delivered to. I think it's good. Just wrapping my head around it with children and the recent fatherhood thread. They know the words by 8-10 years old for sure. I've seen 3 year olds drop the F bomb. I'd rather "train" them to not use them, but know they're not necessary. So far it's working.

clambo says

Unfortunately I swear too much. I should clean up my act; maybe it's too late.

I don't think it's a bad thing. If you don't swear awesome. If you do know how to use it in the right moment it's fine in my opinion. It's difficult in writing I guess is where I'm going and with kids.

What you get from Wookie here is real life if anyone meets me. It's just how we (I) talk. Both white collar and we do very well. Neither of us are religious though my wife wants to be but she cries every time she goes to church. We've had a lot of unexpected death compared to most people our ages at least. Churches bring up negative emotions. I'm fine with it since I'm not a believer. And not a dig to people that are religious either. I respect it. I frankly have no faith in anything and am fine with that.

WookieMan says

I'm realizing I swear a lot here. I don't care necessarily if it bothers anyone myself. But do people get offended by it? I guess what I'm asking is does the message get taken less seriously when someone swears? I personally feel it's more effective.

Just a couple of thoughts ...

When attempting to make a point, such as in a forum like this or in normal conversation, if you DON'T swear, you will offend no one. However, swearing may 'offend' some, or cause a detraction from the point that the swearer is attempting to make. Some people lose immediate respect for the message when it is laced with vulgarity.

I'll hang myself out to dry by my own personal experience with 'swearing.'

Many years ago, as a young man, I became an extremely vulgar person that swore A LOT. However, I was always very careful never to swear around girls that I dated, etc. Looking back, I think my swearing had to do with a lot of pent up anger, etc. which manifested itself in other ways as well, particularly on the football field. This is where the story changes (and will probably 'offend' some that are not 'religious').

A long time ago, out of the blue, I got a phone call from a friend from high school days. During our conversation, he began to tell me that he was reading the Bible and mentioned some of things that he had read. Initially, I honestly thought he was nuts, because this was out of character for this guy. However, after several more phone calls from him, being myself a reader of books, I decided to buy a Bible and see for myself what was in it. I began by reading the New Testament and was really surprised by its content. I read it slowly and would often ponder quite a bit as to what was being said, at times concentrating on just a particular verse or passage.

Long story short, purely by reading the Bible myself (while asking God to teach me), I became a believer in Jesus Christ and my life changed dramatically.

One day (without making any conscious decision) I no longer had the desire to swear and consequently quit swearing entirely. My attitudes also began to change. All of this was done by the grace of God, to whom I give all credit.

Just one more thing regarding swearing: Have you ever noticed that the name 'Jesus Christ' is often used when people are angry, similar to how they use swear words? Why do you think that is? Any thoughts?

What in the fuck you goin on about?

Sorry you were offended. I'm just posting my own personal experience.

RayAmerica says

Sorry you were offended. I'm just posting my own personal experience.

I wasn't offended sorry if my humorist response offended you.

LOL ... I wasn't offended by it. Often times reading a response as opposed to hearing it in person loses meaning and intent.

I eat swear for breakfast.

Swearing is the bumper grill of the mind.

I like the Chris Pratt "kid swearing rules: Swearing is ok if Mom's not around. (Generally expanded to all Women and Girls.)

Also, cussing helps get through pain. That's a fact.

As it pertains to kids, on the rare occasion I heard my dad swear, I knew I was in deep trouble. It's like salt: if you use it sparingly it can be effective. Use it liberally and it corrosive and damaging. (Perhaps that's why they call it "salty" language?)

I generally don't curse... even when hanging out with the guys. Part of it is at a young age I used to work with kids (camp counselor, religous ed instructor, etc.) and cursing them out was a no no, even back then. I learned to hold my tounge. Think it but don't say it.

Currently I curse, of all places, at work. Strange I know. Not so much in the office, but in the shop or the field, I regress a bit. Filter comes off and my inner monolgouge becomes audiable.

In any event, I'm not easily offended. I've heard it all. Curse away if that's your thing.

GreaterNYCDude says

In any event, I'm not easily offended. I've heard it all. Curse away if that's your thing.

Not that it's my thing. I feel like it's using words that were created and meant to be effective at getting a message across. Email our architect yesterday and just asked how the final plans are going, we just paid you $2k and are in a bit of urgency mode to get this moving. And maybe I read too much in his response, but I said I'm not pissed, but just wanted to communicate we're going on a trip for spring break and want this wrapped up.

I generally never swear AT people if that makes sense. I just use it in dialogue and writing. I use it frequently but words like hipster are more offensive to me when directed at me. There are others as well.

WookieMan says

But do people get offended by it?

The fuck? Fuck no!

rocketjoe79 says

Also, cussing helps get through pain. That's a fact.

There is more scientific evidence to back that up than there is for the covid jabs.

Phrases I liberally use are like the following:

"Eat a sack of shit" or sometimes the modified "Eat a bag of dicks" and "Fuck your mom"

But since I've moved out of CA back to TX I don't think I've had to say that even one time the past 5 months.

rocketjoe79 says

Also, cussing helps get through pain. That's a fact.

I wonder if that's why swearing became taboo. Because swearing when you weren't in any stress, is like a false alarm, or crying Wolf when there is no threat.
That would be the only reason I can think of. because there are reserved swear words in every culture. Even some cultures with pretty tame swear words compared to our pallet of salty words. Cubans call someone a variation of Egg, that can also be interpreted as one testicle. huevón. Though they use it like calling someone an asshole or a jerk.

Tenpoundbass says

I wonder if that's why swearing became taboo.

It the words were not taboo, one would not be swearing.

just_passing_through says

"Eat a bag of dicks"

I just got told by a friend that's a girl she's going to "kick on my dick" via text. Lol. Typo on her end.

Got in a mini argument over running. I'm like our ligaments are generally the same. She's 110 and I'm 220. Who the fuck do you think is going to be more sore after running? Playing sports? Just walking? I am. She didn't want to buy it. I told her to throw two 45lbs plates in a backpack for 20 years and get back to me. Just giving her shit, but I'm right.

doesn’t bother me man. who gives a fuck anyway?

i only don’t swear in front of others kids.

I am not offended by swearing

However, I assume the person to be 10-20 IQ points lower than if they would have made the same point without swearing.

BayArea says

I am not offended by swearing

However, I assume the person to be 10-20 IQ points lower than if they would have made the same point without swearing.

I totally disagree depending on the circumstance of the discussion. Just saying "you're a fucking idiot" is not intelligent, so I agree there. But if you're into comedy they do it the best. Bill Burr has been recent influence and is very much like me. He's a pretty intelligent dude and swears constantly. The biggest individual podcaster in history Joe Rogan always swears. You don't make $100M being a dummy. Hell, Elon Musk swears somewhat frequently and he's throwing rockets into space and legit competes with legacy car makers.

I'd agree though that white trash, ghetto blacks, aren't helping how people perceive them by swearing. They would benefit to cut it back.

I mean, the official Gen X handshake is basically the physical manifestation of a curse word…

WookieMan says

But if you're into comedy they do it the best.

Actually I consider Comedians that can do a side splitting comedy set without using cuss words, far superior to any potty-mouthed comedian. Now I'm not talking about tame lame Dad jokes here. The best clean comedians, are excellent story tellers, the humor is in the delivery of their story. Rather than just dry anecdotal humor. You would have a hard time finding a mainstream HBO comedy special staple that is consistently funnier than James Gregory.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

I mean, the official Gen X handshake is basically the physical manifestation of a curse word…

I'm an angry person, but it's weird, I never get in physical fights, I just swear a lot. I've deescalated multiple random fights between others in public settings. The only time in my adult life I put hands on someone it was tossing my SIL into a bookshelf on vacation. She was drunk and out of line. That's the nephew we took in and I let my emotions get the better of me. Being me, I knew she wasn't supposed to be out of state because of her probation so I chucked her. Basically she couldn't call the cops so I put her in her place.

Needless to say there's more respect now. She knows I can be just as crazy as she is. Plus I'm taking care of her kid. Show some fucking respect for christ sake. My wife is gone 60+ days a year. I'm this kids dad at this point. Do not mouth off at me. We're good now for the most part. She's just a binge drinker and those are the types that cause issues. If I'm in party mode it's two beers an hour if that. No shots. No mixed drinks. She should drink Michelob Ultra or some low calorie light beer. You get full and generally can't get drunk drunk if that makes sense.

Tangent aside, fuck her... lol. Not literally, though she is one of the two SIL's I'd fuck if I wasn't married to my wife.

Tenpoundbass says

WookieMan says

But if you're into comedy they do it the best.

Actually I consider Comedians that can do a side splitting comedy set without using cuss words, far superior to any potty-mouthed comedian. Now I'm not talking about tame lame Dad jokes here.

The reason I like it is because it makes people squirm. I don't think it's appropriate in front of kids, but I still do it. Remember I'm not religious or generally care about people's feelings. I don't want to purposely mess with people, but I will use words I know mess with their head. We're soft as a society if I'm being honest. Calling people out for their shit and swearing is effective in my opinion.

For example, dude you're being a fucking idiot, knock it off. (not you 10#) That's substantially more effective than, hey, you're not being a nice person. At least that's my experience. With comedians they're literally calling out and making fun of the audience they're entertaining. I think being offensive if awesome. Not hurtful, but swear words are effective with that. Some are thin skinned and that shows a weakness in my opinion.