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Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:22am
Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:22am
Someone posted this in a forum.
"My good friend is the father of the journalist who came up with this on the spot while she was interviewing the NASCAR race winner. The network praised her for her quick thinking. She is a highly regarded reporter who interviews for NASCAR and several Olympic games. She has received thousands of death threats. Please say a prayer for her."
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My comment on the situation:
Unlike MOST US PRESIDENTS, Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY. He went out of his way to mock and belittle and even dehumanize his political enemies, modelling this behavior and normalizing it to his admirers, and facilitating their shift to the type of extremism that results in THOUSANDS OF DEATH THREATS sent to a young woman reporter FOR THE MORTAL SIN OF NOT PARROTING THEIR EXACT SENTIMENTS.
I don't think it has sunk in for many, how BADLY Trump helped change the character of the political arena, and how deeply and long-term he tainted the "conservative" and "Republican" brands.
"My good friend is the father of the journalist who came up with this on the spot while she was interviewing the NASCAR race winner. The network praised her for her quick thinking. She is a highly regarded reporter who interviews for NASCAR and several Olympic games. She has received thousands of death threats. Please say a prayer for her."
______________________
My comment on the situation:
Unlike MOST US PRESIDENTS, Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY. He went out of his way to mock and belittle and even dehumanize his political enemies, modelling this behavior and normalizing it to his admirers, and facilitating their shift to the type of extremism that results in THOUSANDS OF DEATH THREATS sent to a young woman reporter FOR THE MORTAL SIN OF NOT PARROTING THEIR EXACT SENTIMENTS.
I don't think it has sunk in for many, how BADLY Trump helped change the character of the political arena, and how deeply and long-term he tainted the "conservative" and "Republican" brands.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Oct 17, 10:27am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Oct 17, 10:27am
Automan Empire says
My good friend is the father of the journalist who came up with this on the spot while she was interviewing the NASCAR race winner.That is not reporting or journalism. It is covering up, lying, obscufating.
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porkchopXpress
2021 Oct 17, 10:28am
porkchopXpress
2021 Oct 17, 10:28am
Automan Empire says
Having said that, death threats are uncalled for but happens on both sides. In fact, I'd argue actual threats and deaths happen more to people defending against the Left and communism. Killary is the queen. Trump never advocates for violence or physical harm. However, the Left does.
I don't think it has sunk in for many, how BADLY Trump helped change the character of the political arena, and how deeply and long-term he tainted the "conservative" and "Republican" brands.Gotta fight fire with fire. Nobody won a war by being a pussy.
Having said that, death threats are uncalled for but happens on both sides. In fact, I'd argue actual threats and deaths happen more to people defending against the Left and communism. Killary is the queen. Trump never advocates for violence or physical harm. However, the Left does.
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Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:31am
Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:31am
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
As I said in that conversation:
Do you realize the extent to which you just projected your own political biases and expectations upon her motivations and behavior, and ran with it as if it's confirmed fact?
She's a live TV journalist, working for an entity that can be heavily sanctioned for broadcasting "dirty words." If you attribute her actions to simply pivoting the broadcast from something awkward and unacceptable by broadcast standards to something palatable on-air, then what she did was a shrewd and clever pivot on the fly. Commendable within the scope of her immediate duties as a broadcaster.
That is not reporting or journalism. It is covering up, lying, obscufating.
As I said in that conversation:
Do you realize the extent to which you just projected your own political biases and expectations upon her motivations and behavior, and ran with it as if it's confirmed fact?
She's a live TV journalist, working for an entity that can be heavily sanctioned for broadcasting "dirty words." If you attribute her actions to simply pivoting the broadcast from something awkward and unacceptable by broadcast standards to something palatable on-air, then what she did was a shrewd and clever pivot on the fly. Commendable within the scope of her immediate duties as a broadcaster.
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mell
2021 Oct 17, 10:34am
Automan Empire says
Are you fucking kidding? Tell a bold faced lie for your handlers and face the consequences. This bullshit is trotted out each time, woe me! If you're a public figure and you lie chances are you are antagonizing. Death threats - if those happen - or threats of violence are never ok and should always be condemend, but they come from the left far more than from any other spectrum. The left is also far more violent when it comes to carrying out those threats, leftoid mob violence outnumbered right wing violence by 100-1 easily. Just stop lying for your handlers and you may do better. Just don't mention it at all if you don't want to talk about it. But a journalist is supposed to report on what's actually happening, not to tell fairy tales or be a tool for the ministry of truth. Also Trump never called for violence , this bullshit straw man is the typical leftoid playback where you can't make fun of political opponents cause you're responsible for the next riot. But it was OK to make fun, sometimes with aggressive threats- of Trump for 4 years. Please
Someone posted this in a forum.
"My good friend is the father of the journalist who came up with this on the spot while she was interviewing the NASCAR race winner. The network praised her for her quick thinking. She is a highly regarded reporter who interviews for NASCAR and several Olympic games. She has received thousands of death threats. Please say a prayer for her."
______________________
My comment on the situation:
Unlike MOST US PRESIDENTS, Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY. He went out of his way to mock and belittle and even dehumanize his political enemies, modelling this behavior and normalizing it to his admirers, and facilitating their shift to the type of extremism that results in THOUSANDS OF DEATH THREATS sent to a young woman reporter FOR THE MORTAL SIN OF NOT PARROTING THEIR EXACT SENTIMENTS.
I don't think it has sunk in for many, how BADLY Trump helped change the character of the political arena...
Are you fucking kidding? Tell a bold faced lie for your handlers and face the consequences. This bullshit is trotted out each time, woe me! If you're a public figure and you lie chances are you are antagonizing. Death threats - if those happen - or threats of violence are never ok and should always be condemend, but they come from the left far more than from any other spectrum. The left is also far more violent when it comes to carrying out those threats, leftoid mob violence outnumbered right wing violence by 100-1 easily. Just stop lying for your handlers and you may do better. Just don't mention it at all if you don't want to talk about it. But a journalist is supposed to report on what's actually happening, not to tell fairy tales or be a tool for the ministry of truth. Also Trump never called for violence , this bullshit straw man is the typical leftoid playback where you can't make fun of political opponents cause you're responsible for the next riot. But it was OK to make fun, sometimes with aggressive threats- of Trump for 4 years. Please
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Oct 17, 10:34am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2021 Oct 17, 10:34am
Automan Empire says
She's a live TV journalist, working for an entity that can be heavily sanctioned for broadcasting "dirty words."Curse words occassionaly make it through live brodacasts. Typically the reporters acknowledge it in a sheepish way, and may even apologize or comment on its inappropriateness. But misrepresenting reality is a poor solution for a reporter or journalist.
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Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:37am
Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:37am
porkchopexpress says
You just hand waved and dismissed thousands of specific recent right-wing examples, and as your counterargument invoked vague whataboutism blaming the left with zero actual examples.
Gotta fight fire with fire. Nobody won a war by being a pussy.
Having said that, death threats are uncalled for but happens on both sides. In fact, I'd argue actual threats and deaths happen more to people defending against the Left and communism.
You just hand waved and dismissed thousands of specific recent right-wing examples, and as your counterargument invoked vague whataboutism blaming the left with zero actual examples.
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mell
2021 Oct 17, 10:39am
And this is what integrity looks like (by a cnn journalist). Bet she has no problems with the public.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mkhammer/status/1449016964224061445
You can be on different sides without lying. Journalism is about telling the truth.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mkhammer/status/1449016964224061445
You can be on different sides without lying. Journalism is about telling the truth.
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Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:40am
Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:40am
mell says
Another for whom the cognitive dissonance burns deeply like hydrofluoric acid.
Death threats - if those happen - or threats of violence are never ok and should always be condemend, but they come from the left far more than from any other spectrum. The left is also
Another for whom the cognitive dissonance burns deeply like hydrofluoric acid.
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mell
2021 Oct 17, 10:50am
Automan Empire says
Maybe she made a mistake and really heard it wrong but it sure sounds she did this intentionally, you can always clarify later and show integrity. Or you can say, "they are now chanting expletives/dissatisfaction at the president", you can even follow by "which I don't condone" if that's truly how you feel, but you think it's ok to make a bold faced lie on TV for you handlers as a journalist? Def not ok, it's the same or worse to what they did to the Zimmerman tapes or Joe Rogan. You can spin a little, but you cannot lie. In all other professions a big lie will cost you your job pretty instantly.
mell saysDeath threats - if those happen - or threats of violence are never ok and should always be condemend, but they come from the left far more than from any other spectrum. The left is also
Another for whom the cognitive dissonance burns deeply like hydrofluoric acid.
Maybe she made a mistake and really heard it wrong but it sure sounds she did this intentionally, you can always clarify later and show integrity. Or you can say, "they are now chanting expletives/dissatisfaction at the president", you can even follow by "which I don't condone" if that's truly how you feel, but you think it's ok to make a bold faced lie on TV for you handlers as a journalist? Def not ok, it's the same or worse to what they did to the Zimmerman tapes or Joe Rogan. You can spin a little, but you cannot lie. In all other professions a big lie will cost you your job pretty instantly.
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Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:50am
Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 10:50am
mell says
She's interviewing a race car driver, not a fricking Head of State. It's entertainment, and she can be considered as acting in the capacity of ad hoc optics management for the sake of an entertainment broadcast.
Remember, I actually agree with the sentiment "Fuck Joe Biden!" and would enthusiastically join the crowd in shouting it as loud as I could, which is pretty damn loud. But, I also don't have to stay beholden to an elaborate anti-conservative conspiracy theory to explain the behavior of a chick reporter when "the forbidden seven words" break out during her live broadcast.
This is getting to be like the part of the McCarthy era where people finally openly confront the obvious bullshit with, "Have you no decency, Sir?"
You can be on different sides without lying. Journalism is about telling the truth.
She's interviewing a race car driver, not a fricking Head of State. It's entertainment, and she can be considered as acting in the capacity of ad hoc optics management for the sake of an entertainment broadcast.
Remember, I actually agree with the sentiment "Fuck Joe Biden!" and would enthusiastically join the crowd in shouting it as loud as I could, which is pretty damn loud. But, I also don't have to stay beholden to an elaborate anti-conservative conspiracy theory to explain the behavior of a chick reporter when "the forbidden seven words" break out during her live broadcast.
This is getting to be like the part of the McCarthy era where people finally openly confront the obvious bullshit with, "Have you no decency, Sir?"
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mell
2021 Oct 17, 10:54am
Automan Empire says
Then she should have not mentioned it at all or said "the crowd is chanting expletives", you can tell the truth without mentioning certain words. The politically polarized and charged climate existed long before Trump, when W lied- again bold faced - to Americans about Iraqs wmd, when Clinton lied, when Obummer lied about each black kid being shot before the investigation even had started. This has nothing to do with Trump, but he is being blamed for any and all polarization these days.
mell saysYou can be on different sides without lying. Journalism is about telling the truth.
She's interviewing a race car driver, not a fricking Head of State. It's entertainment, and she can be considered as acting in the capacity of ad hoc optics management for the sake of an entertainment broadcast.
Remember, I actually agree with the sentiment "Fuck Joe Biden!" and would enthusiastically join the crowd in shouting it as loud as I could, which is pretty damn loud. But, I also don't have to stay beholden to an elaborate anti-conservative conspiracy theory to explain the behavior of a chick reporter when "the forbidden seven words" break out during her live broadcast.
This is getting to be like the part of the McCarthy era where people finally openly confront the obvious bullshit with, "Have you no decency, Sir?"
Then she should have not mentioned it at all or said "the crowd is chanting expletives", you can tell the truth without mentioning certain words. The politically polarized and charged climate existed long before Trump, when W lied- again bold faced - to Americans about Iraqs wmd, when Clinton lied, when Obummer lied about each black kid being shot before the investigation even had started. This has nothing to do with Trump, but he is being blamed for any and all polarization these days.
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Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 11:07am
Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 11:07am
mell says
The reporter's Father reports thousands of death threats, and I believe him. The people doing this threatening are pretty much all Trump supporters. The situation is more complex than "Trump planned for/supports the people making these death threats" and it should be obvious that this doesn't infer "all Trump supporters agree with the death threats," but you're wasting time and burning overall credibility by trying to distance this actual current event from actual recent behavior of certain Trump supporters.
This has nothing to do with Trump, but he is being blamed for any and all polarization these days.
The reporter's Father reports thousands of death threats, and I believe him. The people doing this threatening are pretty much all Trump supporters. The situation is more complex than "Trump planned for/supports the people making these death threats" and it should be obvious that this doesn't infer "all Trump supporters agree with the death threats," but you're wasting time and burning overall credibility by trying to distance this actual current event from actual recent behavior of certain Trump supporters.
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porkchopXpress
2021 Oct 17, 11:10am
porkchopXpress
2021 Oct 17, 11:10am
Automan Empire says
porkchopexpress saysSeth RichGotta fight fire with fire. Nobody won a war by being a pussy.
Having said that, death threats are uncalled for but happens on both sides. In fact, I'd argue actual threats and deaths happen more to people defending against the Left and communism.
You just hand waved and dismissed thousands of specific recent right-wing examples, and as your counterargument invoked vague whataboutism blaming the left with zero actual examples.
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RWSGFY
2021 Oct 17, 11:14am
RWSGFY
2021 Oct 17, 11:14am
Automan Empire says
Why? How do you know who are these alleged callers really are (IF they exist)?
All of swastika/noose/"attack on Jucy" type of incidents have been proven to be false flags perpetuated by the left. If we go by the experience alone these "death threats" calls either completely made up or performed by pantifa/blm activists.
The reporter's Father reports thousands of death threats, and I believe him. The people doing this threatening are pretty much all Trump supporters.
Why? How do you know who are these alleged callers really are (IF they exist)?
All of swastika/noose/"attack on Jucy" type of incidents have been proven to be false flags perpetuated by the left. If we go by the experience alone these "death threats" calls either completely made up or performed by pantifa/blm activists.
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Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 12:02pm
Automan Empire
2021 Oct 17, 12:02pm
FuckCCP89 says
He's official laughing stock to everyone at this point. That dumb fuck. And if you mean that "Nascar Noose" even the people who got worked up about it accepted pictures that the "noose" was a door pull that had been there for over a year and moved on.
attack on Jucy"
He's official laughing stock to everyone at this point. That dumb fuck. And if you mean that "Nascar Noose" even the people who got worked up about it accepted pictures that the "noose" was a door pull that had been there for over a year and moved on.
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richwicks
2021 Oct 17, 3:25pm
richwicks
2021 Oct 17, 3:25pm
Automan Empire says
His political enemies have been bombing 7 nations over the last 20 years. With Syria, Libya, and Iraq - the justifications were entirely based on lies. There's slavery in Libya because of this, there's starvation in Syria as a result.
People who support this garbage - I have to question their humanity at worst, and their actual civic engagement and knowledge at best. Some fool telling me about how the bombing of Libya was unfortunate but ultimately worked out for the best, has never talked to a Libyan before.
Unlike MOST US PRESIDENTS, Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY. He went out of his way to mock and belittle and even dehumanize his political enemies
His political enemies have been bombing 7 nations over the last 20 years. With Syria, Libya, and Iraq - the justifications were entirely based on lies. There's slavery in Libya because of this, there's starvation in Syria as a result.
People who support this garbage - I have to question their humanity at worst, and their actual civic engagement and knowledge at best. Some fool telling me about how the bombing of Libya was unfortunate but ultimately worked out for the best, has never talked to a Libyan before.
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Onvacation
2021 Oct 17, 4:37pm
Onvacation
2021 Oct 17, 4:37pm
Automan Empire says
I heard him call some of his opponents deplorable!!
Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY.
I heard him call some of his opponents deplorable!!
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AmericanKulak
2021 Oct 17, 5:10pm
AmericanKulak
2021 Oct 17, 5:10pm
richwicks says
What happened to Ghaddafi was disgusting.
As dictators went, he was pretty mild, and he was helping go after crazed Muslims. Instead, the NWO Op Hillary engineered his undeserved execution.
The dirty secret is that Elder Assad did what Ghaddafi got blamed for. in the 80s and 90s, almost certainly with the help of Elder Bush, he got blamed for (not that he did himself any favors by not denying it).
People who support this garbage - I have to question their humanity at worst, and their actual civic engagement and knowledge at best. Some fool telling me about how the bombing of Libya was unfortunate but ultimately worked out for the best, has never talked to a Libyan before.
What happened to Ghaddafi was disgusting.
As dictators went, he was pretty mild, and he was helping go after crazed Muslims. Instead, the NWO Op Hillary engineered his undeserved execution.
The dirty secret is that Elder Assad did what Ghaddafi got blamed for. in the 80s and 90s, almost certainly with the help of Elder Bush, he got blamed for (not that he did himself any favors by not denying it).
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richwicks
2021 Oct 17, 5:56pm
richwicks
2021 Oct 17, 5:56pm
MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
Yeah, what Clinton did in Libya I think disqualifies her from free society. Unbelievable anybody would even consider voting for her.
MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
Really? Hafez al-Assad did the Lockerbie bombing? I hadn't heard that.
What happened to Ghaddafi was disgusting.
As dictators went, he was pretty mild, and he was helping go after crazed Muslims. Instead, the NWO Op Hillary engineered his undeserved execution.
Yeah, what Clinton did in Libya I think disqualifies her from free society. Unbelievable anybody would even consider voting for her.
MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
The dirty secret is that Elder Assad did what Ghaddafi got blamed for. in the 80s and 90s, almost certainly with the help of Elder Bush, he got blamed for (not that he did himself any favors by not denying it).
Really? Hafez al-Assad did the Lockerbie bombing? I hadn't heard that.
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HeadSet
2021 Oct 17, 6:04pm
HeadSet
2021 Oct 17, 6:04pm
Automan Empire says
Obama - "bitter clingers" to guns and religion
Hillary -"deplorables"
Automan Empire says
The Assassination of George W. Bush: A Love Story Paperback
NY Times publishes Trump assassination short story
Kathy Griffen and Trumps severed head
Maxine Waters calling to harass Trump supporters
Culpepper Va restaurant refusing service to Trump staff
I came up with these right away. Please name an example out of your "thousands" where right wingers have done the equivalent.
Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY.
Obama - "bitter clingers" to guns and religion
Hillary -"deplorables"
Automan Empire says
You just hand waved and dismissed thousands of specific recent right-wing examples,
The Assassination of George W. Bush: A Love Story Paperback
NY Times publishes Trump assassination short story
Kathy Griffen and Trumps severed head
Maxine Waters calling to harass Trump supporters
Culpepper Va restaurant refusing service to Trump staff
I came up with these right away. Please name an example out of your "thousands" where right wingers have done the equivalent.
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HeadSet
2021 Oct 17, 6:07pm
HeadSet
2021 Oct 17, 6:07pm
Automan Empire says
Only after an FBI investigation, and they only "moved on" after the lie was no longer feasible.
And if you mean that "Nascar Noose" even the people who got worked up about it accepted pictures that the "noose" was a door pull that had been there for over a year and moved on.
Only after an FBI investigation, and they only "moved on" after the lie was no longer feasible.
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AmericanKulak
2021 Oct 17, 6:13pm
AmericanKulak
2021 Oct 17, 6:13pm
richwicks says
This was Re: 80s DIsco Bombings.
It should sound familiar: France, West Germany, Israel, Italy, UK all shared their belief it was Assad, but the US Intel Agencies insisted it was Ghadaffi.
With Lockerbie, it was even weirder: John Major faced dissent from his own Party regarding the evidence it was Assad, not Libya.
There was another incident in the early 90s, but Elder Bush ignored evidence leading to Syria (again, everybody but his Admin concluding this) due to Gulf War I diplomatic efforts.
Really? Hafez al-Assad did the Lockerbie bombing? I hadn't heard that.
This was Re: 80s DIsco Bombings.
It should sound familiar: France, West Germany, Israel, Italy, UK all shared their belief it was Assad, but the US Intel Agencies insisted it was Ghadaffi.
With Lockerbie, it was even weirder: John Major faced dissent from his own Party regarding the evidence it was Assad, not Libya.
There was another incident in the early 90s, but Elder Bush ignored evidence leading to Syria (again, everybody but his Admin concluding this) due to Gulf War I diplomatic efforts.
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