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ThreeBays says

Your argument that Biden didn't win the election, or any number of other conspiracies, is just because you can't trust what you see.

Lol! This is amazing.

ThreeBays, how can you not trust what you see?

Didn't you watch the election? Trump was massively ahead in all those swing states when you went to bed, right?

Then what happened?

ThreeBays says

If you can't find evidence of fraud, fund a fraudit and create some fraud.

Dude, you saw blatant evidence of fraud. You, yourself.

So, somehow a massive number of votes arrived late in exactly the swing states, and a statistically impossible number of them were for Biden.

And you believe that's not an indication of fraud?

Like I said, only the willfully ignorant, shills, or trolls believe, BELIEVE that Trump got more votes than anyone in US presidential elections before, except Biden.

Same people that believe the Wuhan is the reason for mail in ballots.

ThreeBays says

So mail in ballots were processed late. Was it statistically impossible for Biden to close the gap? No, since states like Pennsylvania had 1.1M

That's quite gullible and violates election integrity of any sovereign country that doesn't want to be a banana republic. You have to count mail in ballots first after securing them with ID match etc., otherwise there is no accountability. The reason they were counted last was to "come up" with the massive numbers of ballots to defeat the early Trump crushing lead.

ThreeBays says

states like Pennsylvania had 1.1M more mail in votes from Democrats than Republicans

What is the probability of that?

There were (in theory) 6.9M votes cast in Pennsylvania.

How can you just accept many statistical outliers like this without even the slightest question?

No European country accepts unsecured mail-in ballots, they all have strict voter ID laws and if your vote is even a minute late it won't count. That's how they announce the results on election night.

ThreeBays says

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

It's pretty damn rare that POTUS elections run into the morning of the next day, unheard of that any candidate comes back from a 5-10% deficit at 11PM with most of the vote in, and never that it happens in multiple states. Then you add the fact that turnout from some cities like Philly, are not repeated in non-swing states in cities similar in composition.

It can't be a difference in local "Get out the Vote" Campaign efficiency, because COVID. No massive door knocking campaigns going on.

And all the outliers are IN swing states to begin with.

Let's also consider this: Counting went on under series of bizarre circumstances (ie telling press to go home as counting is stopping, but it didn't) for THREE DAYS, during which the Media urged the Public to be patient, reports of irregularities were ignored, 3AM vote drops in open boxes by strange cars when no one is around, no remarks about the unusual results trickling in re: Bellwethers, strange decreases in third party vote totals (Voting is additive, nothing should ever be subtracted during a live count), etc.

The moment Biden was outside the margin of mandatory recount Friday Morning, all of sudden it went from "Patience and Calm" to "WHELP! Voting's Over. No more questions. Anybody who has questions is a treasonous flat Earther. Biden is King!"

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

The moment Biden was outside the margin of mandatory recount Friday Morning, all of sudden it went from "Patience and Calm" to "WHELP! Voting's Over. No more questions. Anybody who has questions is a treasonous flat Earther. Biden is King!"

Right, and the almost tremulous panicky voice of Facebook, Twitter, and Google declaring that THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT ANY ELECTION FRAUD OCCURRED.

Over and over and over.

Hmmm.

ThreeBays says

Slight question yes.

Lol, slight. OK, better than 100% denial of screamingly obvious reality.

ThreeBays says

anger about incumbent Trump

Definite mass mental illness there, relentlessly promoted by the media to keep that half trillion in annual Chinese imports flowing.



https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays

ThreeBays says

Patrick says

Definite mass mental illness there, relentlessly promoted by the media to keep that half trillion in annual Chinese imports flowing.

Sure thing. There's also 50 million brain washed republicans that believe the election was stolen, primarily based on Trump's word, Fox News, Tucker Carlson, etc.

No, people are very skeptical based on observable statistical impossibilities.

You yourself had a little hint of enlightenment for a moment there.

I hope one day you'll escape your own mental prison of fear and hate. Trump is no danger to you or the country. He managed to do a lot of good in spite of hysterical opposition paid for by our owners.

ThreeBays says

What do more engaged voters that dislike trump do to the statistics?

There weren't 20 million plus that voted for Biden over Hillary 4 years prior AND an additional 10 million for Trump. Also the county and precinct level data is out of whack in certain areas it's obvious.

I'm in the youngish crowd and hang with people as young as 25- 30 frequently. No one liked Biden, especially younger men. I'm in a blue state. Anecdotal information matters at some point as much as you likely hate that. There's also math which can't be wrong unless is was fudged. It was fudged.

In your above post you're also making the assumption that however they polled or gathered the data was done honestly. Or was it part of a narrative to keep you believing? If Fox News lies (I don't watch) then sure as shit smelling NBC or some other network is. Question everything. But questioning the questioners won't get you anywhere. You need to open your eyes dude.

ThreeBays says

Take it to court if you have something.

I do have something.

Thousands of votes from colleges that were closed for residency for months. Students had not been assigned dorms, nor keys for their mailboxes. How did they register, request ballot, or mail ballots in from an address they never had?

They MIGHT have voted from home - perhaps in another state, town, county, nearby apartment - but there's no way they voted from their campus and no possible way these votes are valid. At a bare minimum, it demands an investigation.

Patrick says

Right, and the almost tremulous panicky voice of Facebook, Twitter, and Google declaring that THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT ANY ELECTION FRAUD OCCURRED.

Over and over and over.

Hmmm.

I don't recall the Press, or MySpace screaming "NO ELECTION FRAUD IS POSSIBLE" in 2004-2005 with all the Diebold claims.

If anything, the media entertained them with an open mind and did puff pieces on bipartisan efforts to return to paper ballots.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

ThreeBays says

Take it to court if you have something.

I do have something.

Thousands of votes from colleges that were closed for residency for months. Students had not been assigned dorms, nor keys for their mailboxes. How did they register, request ballot, or mail ballots in from an address they never had?

They MIGHT have voted from home - perhaps in another state, town, county, nearby apartment - but there's no way they voted from their campus and no possible way these votes are valid. At a bare minimum, it demands an investigation.

Another gullible argument is take it to court. The courts do not examine it, they are primed and preprogrammed, i.e. instructed to reject everything with "no standing" which is a fucking disgrace since they have enough "standing" to prosecute every fucking taxpayer for obstruction of their windshield, a blown out lightbulb or rolling a stop sign. The courts never said there was no fraud because they never took any cases, they dismissed almost all of them with "nada standing!"

ThreeBays says

Where did you find that thousands voted from their dorms? Students can choose where they want to vote from... I'd imagine they mostly would've voted from their home state.

Wow. Let me try this again.

The students HAD to have been at home, they COULDNT have voted from their college, because the College's dorms were closed and had been for months. They were closed before and after September. Students would have never been assigned a 2020-2021 school year dorm. And thus, no mailbox keys or addresses for mail ballots.

And if they weren't in their dorms, they were home several counties or states away.

Then how did thousands of votes come from the COLLEGE address, then?

ThreeBays says

I'd imagine they mostly would've voted from their home state.

They can vote in both states. There is no mechanism to track that. Voting is run by individual states. If I had 10 vacation homes in different states, I could vote in all and no one would know.

ThreeBays says

Anecdotally 9 out of 10 people I know dislike Trump, and 10 out of 10 got vaccinated. Anecdotes can only take us so far as far as arguing about other states or the whole country.

That's your bubble. You're discussing something with someone that knows a thousand people across 4-5 states in my region. This ain't 10 people. You're also not making a comparison. The lesser of two evils argument. 9 out of 10 disliked Trump, but 10 out of 10 wouldn't have voted for Biden because they hated him.

I don't like Trump and I'd say that in person. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over Biden. It's how he got elected in 2016. People talking trash and then voting for him. Caught Hillary off guard and she lost.

You have to understand that much of what you read is either half assed work or flat out lies. There's little to no actual journalism anymore. Probably never was. If you don't accept that, you'll continue to be brainwashed. Listen to the words. It's a coordinated effort. You think Isreal hitting an AP building was an accident? Media lies. When Jews do that you might want to start paying attention. They're not happy with the new puppet running things.

ThreeBays says

My question is where did you hear that? What's the evidence?

And you do realize that many colleges had open dorms right?

ALL colleges in PA were locked down and prohibited from opening by PA State law months before, still in effect on Voting Day.

Keep trying to dodge Occam's Razor.

ThreeBays says

WookieMan says

You're discussing something with someone that knows a thousand people across 4-5 states in my region.

Your anecdotal facts seem to change every time you put them forward. Lots of polls disagree with your 10/10 hate Biden assertion. I know you'll just say your anecdote is more accurate than multiple polls lol.

Illinois, like many other blue states, has blue metros surrounded by a lot of red counties.

You're not listening. 9 out of 10 can hate Trump. 10 out of 10 hated Hillary more and wouldn't vote for her. Do you not understand what I'm saying?

Trump won by being caught saying he grabs women by the pussy. Yeah, that guy won. Biden got his legs rubbed down by little boys and hiding in a basement for months. Maybe we're a country of pedophiles and I'm not noticing it. Biden is/was so unpopular that combined with the math, cheating was involved. The fact you can't have a nuanced view is rather strange given the circumstances.

ThreeBays says

The audit ninjas in Arizona walked back their claim today. "Oops, sorry the data wasn't deleted". Is it still unhinged to not believe it?

There is a big difference between the "... the data wasn't deleted", and "the data was deleted but we recovered it".

Why are you being disingenuous?

ThreeBays says

Illinois, like many other blue states, has blue metros surrounded by a lot of red counties.

I go to many states. My wife's territories are WI and IL. Company also has MO, IA, MN, AL and a couple other states we visit to assist other sales people. If you're just out in CA, you have zero clue how the rest of the country works and thinks. Shit, half of us have already done a days work before you guys even wake up.

You CA guys, especially those that don't travel, really have no clue. You live in a bubble. You then push that bubble on the rest of the country as the most populous state. We don't want it. We outnumber you. We have more land and resources. It's why the electoral college was brilliant.

Get out of CA and see what the rest of your country thinks. You'd be surprised.

Luckily, they didn't "bleachbit" it

ThreeBays says

Believing in coordinated mass fraud in 5 swing states to explain Trumps loss is precisely against Occam's Razor.

How many elections had this level of mail in voting, with rules altered months prior to the election by Executive Officers of various states?

How many elections had voting machines connected to the internet?

Why did some Black Cities like Detroit and Philly have massive turnout, but others did not, and the Black Vote overall was lower than 2008?

That there was the largest turnout in any election since 1900, in the middle of a pandemic?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/04/trump-polarization-mail-voting-drove-record-2020-turnout-column/6153959002/

But when you look at WHERE the turnout was, many places were average, swing or non-swing states. But key places, dark blue places totally dominated by a Blue machine, turnout was astronomical. Can't be get out the vote efforts - door knocking didn't happen in a Pandemic. Yet in equivalent deep dark blue urban areas in non-swing states, no such massive turnout increase was found.

All this aside, you still haven't explained how thousands of students voted from several shut down university campuses where residency was prohibited for months before during and after the election.

ThreeBays says

"the data is intact and they'd been looking the wrong way".

What does that mean? The data should be on an SSD that a 5th grader could open and analyze. This isn't complicated at all. Yet you quote government that's in charge of this stuff that cannot do something as simple as finding data? Looking the wrong way? The fuck?

ThreeBays says

You still haven't told us which campuses, and which votes were mailed from those closed campuses. Have a list? Where's this allegation from?

I posted the locations and # of votes in question already:
https://patrick.net/post/1339209/?comment_id=1753852

The source is the Pennsylvania Voting System itself.

ThreeBays says

First you said all colleges were ordered shut by the state. Now you say "several shut down university campuses".

The point is that the campuses were shut down, if the second time I failed to mention "on state authority" does not nullify their status as closed for residency the second time I mentioned it.

You're still not addressing how a shut down campus (by the state! in case you think that's relevant) with no residential students has a mechanism for students that aren't residing there to have an current address on campus to register, receive ballots, and vote from.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

You're still not addressing

Don't hold your breath.

ThreeBays says

There's a lot of Trump supporters around here so I'm sure my perspective will land on deaf ears, but I think the GOP is screwing themselves out of the next election by going all-in on Trump.

I think you're incorrect on that.

What do you think the GOP should push forward? Liz Cheney - that neocon warmonger whore? How about Jeb Bush, another neocon warmonger cunt?

The reason Trump was elected is that he criticized the Iraq War - he's the ONLY presidential candidate that has and George W. Bush fucking lied us into that war.

So, if the GOP is going to keep pushing these chickenhawk warmonger assholes - the party can just goddamned die as far as I'm concerned.

Furthermore, if Trump had run on the Democratic ticket, I would have voted for him, I would have supported him, and I would have been perfectly happy with him - although Fox and Newsmax would have been dumping on him the entire time and so would have most "conservative" sheeple.

First president in 40 goddamned fucking years that didn't start a new, fucking war and if the "liberal left" is too fucking stupid to appreciate that, they can go straight hell, and I hope they do.

richwicks says

First president in 40 goddamned fucking years that didn't start a new, fucking war

This is huge. So huge as to basically dwarf any mistakes made in other areas. Though his executive order on bumpstocks (which was overturned by the courts) was definitely a really bad mistake.

ThreeBays says

Believing in coordinated mass fraud in 5 swing states to explain Trumps loss is precisely against Occam's Razor.

@ThreeBays
Can you at least admit that there are some people trying to thwart America's audit?

You never did tell us why you voted for Biden.

Patrick says

Russia! Russia! Trump is a Stooge of Russia!

A few months into Presidency, Biden allows Nord Stream 2 that will bring Russia billions in hard currency, something Trump stopped.

Not a peep.

Everything out of their mouths is bullshit.

ThreeBays says

No dude, it's the partisan company doing the audit that fucked up, had trouble finding the data after they made a copy of the partition and blabbed that it was deleted, then the county office told them they're fucking lying... the database is right there and readable, and then the auditors were like "oh yeah never mind we found how to read it".

Link?

Or did you just make that up?

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

A few months into Presidency, Biden allows Nord Stream 2 that will bring Russia billions in hard currency, something Trump stopped.

Pipelines for thee but not for we. What?

ThreeBays says

Believing in coordinated mass fraud in 5 swing states to explain Trumps loss is precisely against Occam's Razor.

People often refer to Occam's Razor, not understanding what Occam's Razor actually states.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation with the least number of assumptions is most probably correct. It does not state the simplest explanation is probably correct.

If you have an explanation with no assumptions, that MUST be correct.

Here is your very representative list of the Working Group on Extremism.



I just realized this group is for the US. Based on the names, I thought it was for Dubai or Mumbai.

At least they are consistent. Every disgraced, misdirected extortion and shake down NGO combined with Deep (Shallow) State Gestapos. What more could the progressive heart desire?

Of course the November 3 election was stolen.
It not surprising that the people who are in government on many levels disliked Trump.
The FBI spied on his campaign in 2016.
States illegally changed to mail voting (although CDC said voting in person was safe).
Judges are generally more liberal than voters.

I voted in California; two Democrats had possession of my ballot before it was actually cast (if it was).
1. Mexican postman
2. Mexican in the County building. A Democrat decided if my ballot looked genuine.

The reason for mail voting was to facilitate fraud, not to protect the public health.

Ah yes, the Blue Wave Fantasy.

"If only those boomfucks* would die off already"
* includes, astoundingly, all 15-20 years of GenX and occasionally early 80s GenY

All youth generations lean Democrat. So did Boomfucks once upon time, now they are the #1 anti-Left demographic. Don't count your chickens until they hatch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAMbPJp9PAM

ThreeBays says

richwicks says

If you have an explanation with no assumptions, that MUST be correct.

Once again, assuming some big steal is why Trump lost is incorrect. Believing the big lie requires assuming that multiple state elections were rigged,

I live in a nation that I know:

1) lied us into a war in Iraq over a non existent weapons of mass destruction program
2) lied to us why they bombed Libya (Qaddafi was NOT about to cause a humanitarian crisis - but the US left Libya in one)
3) lied to us into a war in Syria (Assad isn't gassing his own people, Bana al-Abed is propaganda)
4) lied about Ukraine having a revolution (they had a US led coup)
5) lied for 4 years about "Russian Collusion"
6) had the intelligence agencies support ALL those lies.

We just had a "color revolution" in the United States.

This is why we have, supposedly, the most popular presidential candidate in history (by percentage of the population), and won the least number of counties ever (by percentage of the counties), who nobody respects, nobody listens to and everybody hates.

This it the White House's official youtube page:

https://www.youtube.com/user/whitehouse

Click around some videos and try to find any video of the most popular presidential candidate in history that has a net positive like/dislike ratio.

Of course we had a coup. It's no big deal, Biden is just a meat puppet president taking orders from the intelligence agencies and the MIC - that is what Obama and George W. Bush were doing - and what Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and John Kerry, and Al Gore would have done if they were elected - didn't matter to them which puppet was "president".

The only difference would have been would have been what lies they told you for why we were started a war - and the distractions produced to keep "duh left" and "duh right" at each other's throats. They don't give a shit about abortion rights, transgendered bathrooms, school prayer, or critical race theory - these are just distractions for the sheeple to fight over. They are only distractions.

You underestimate the difficulty in a coup d'état thinking "it could never happen here!" - the only reason it can happen here, is because you believe it's impossible for it to happen here. The people of Guatemala (Operation PBSuccess) and Iran (Operation Ajax) also thought "it couldn't possibly happen here". You've never read about how those were done, I have. This nation has obviously had a coup.

Before it just didn't matter who was elected because the candidates were essentially the same from the point of view of the power structures. If Al Gore were president in 2000, the US still would have gone to war with Iraq, but over humanitarian reasons, not weapons of mass destruction. When we have a democrat as president any war is started for "humanitarian reasons" - Bosnia, Syria, or Libya - but when we have a republican president it's to "protect the nation" - Desert Storm, Iraq War, and Afghanistan War.

And sometimes they don't even bother to make excuses at all, like Yemen and Somalia.

All that needed to be done to promote Biden to the presidency, is have a bunch of fake ballots created or machines incorrectly record votes. Poll workers don't have to know - and it doesn't matter if statistical deviation is blown out of the water, because most people don't even remember what a standard deviation is or what it means when you are more than 2 sigma out of the norm even if it happens multiple times.

We had a coup. It's obvious, but nothing to worry about. In 2024, if all goes well, a Neocon meat puppet republican will be the republican "nominee". It, and I'm using the pronoun purposely, will be essentially identical to Biden, because just like Biden, it's just a meat puppet - not a president - not even really human, it's a thinktank. I think our last president MAY have been Reagan, or maybe George H. Bush - I suspect George H. Bush set up this system to overthrow the Republic - after all Prescott Bush was rumored to have attempted to do that under FDR and George H. was former director of the CIA, the Cocaine Importation Agency.

It's been this way for 30 years, more than 1/2 my life. Republic has been dead for a good long time. Doesn't matter who you vote for unless you are really concerned about transgendered bathrooms more than you are about starting a new fucking, worthless, never-ending war that will leave your children in poverty and bankrupt everybody in the nation.

@ThreeBays

Join us and you'll be happier.

Conservatives are consistently happier than liberals.

All of the Trump supporters I've met have been good happy people.

Most of the liberals I meet are quite bitter about something or other.

Leave the dark side, come to the light side.

PS It's not necessary to personally like Trump, only to be pro-America and against cheap Chinese imports and cheap labor imports.