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WineHorror1 says

If I get vaccinated, than I am immune, correct?

no, I don't think so. And these vaccines do decrease your chance of contracting corona. So this is arguing about semantics, better find something they are lying about and present that, like "masks should be work because they help"<----no they don't, or "corona is extremely deadly"<-----no it is not, CDC has numbers on its website, I referenced them a few weeks ago, corona is about as deadly as regular flu for people below 50.

Vaccine: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious disease

Rb6d says

And these vaccines do decrease your chance of contracting corona.

Holy shit, then stop calling them vaccines.

theoakman says

Nj right now has the worst numbers and everyone here is a die hard masker

Plan on going to the beach there this summer, maskless, just like last summer.

WineHorror1 says

It's better to help spread the good news that Covid isn't the killer everyone is scared of.

Yeah, quote the death rates by age.

WineHorror1 says

Holy shit, then stop calling them vaccines.

I don't think that vaccine medical definition includes 100% protection from the disease.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/vaccine

Booger says

WineHorror1 says

It's better to help spread the good news that Covid isn't the killer everyone is scared of.

Yeah, quote the death rates by age.

Even better: point out that CCP Virus extends life because the median age of a virus death is greater than the median age of all deaths.

Patrick says

Even better: point out that CCP Virus extends life because the median age of a virus death is greater than the median age of all deaths.

Excellent point! People have to die before the average life expectancy can go up.

Wuhan is a reaper; it takes out the sick. And yes, obesity is a severe comorbidity.

On a side note. Martinez seems to be open for business. My wife and I just went for a bike ride through town and there were 3 (THREE) live bands. They close some of the roads downtown and set up tables. All the restaurants have outdoor diners unmasked in the middle of main street. Mid 70's and sunny. It's MORE crowded than it was before the Wuhan! The dancing ladies are out and the microbrew is flowing.

There are still a lot of maskers, but fuck them if they don't want to breathe fresh air.

Onvacation says

There are still a lot of maskers, but fuck them if they don't want to breathe fresh air.

I went hiking here in SD and it was about 50:50. My condo complex was abuzz and had about the same ratio.

Beautiful day.

Funny.

As.

Shit.

This is what I sent for text #2...

"The median age of a Covid death (80 years old) is greater than the median age of all deaths (78 years old).

Since there are other effective treatments for Covid, there is no NEED to take the shot. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are proven, effective, cheap, safe and have been in use for many decades.

This is the top Dr. at Yale.
https://trialsitenews.com/top-yale-doctor-researcher-ivermectin-works-including-for-long-haul-covid/

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/two-weeks-after-reopening-and-dropping-mask-mandate-texas-covid-cases

This is what I decided to send for the final text...

https://mobile.twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1376627040367960064

Apparently SARS-Cov2 virus avoids Neanderthal hosts. I identify as a Neanderthal for purposes of COVID 19. It must be so, the Bidet said so.

ThreeBays says

I suggest spreading some q-anon fairy tales, together with some Alex Jones psychosis, topped with a serving of Tucker Carlson "nobody would literally believe it" bullshit.

Saying that "masks help" is BS worse than that by Alex Jones or Q-Anon. Please see below deaths by corona, comparison between CA which has strict lockdowns/mask requirements, TX which removed mask requirements and all lockdowns more than a month ago, and FL with little restrictions and mask requirements. Data are from official CDC website: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#compare-trends_newdeathsper100k

Follow the science, they said...except when it contradicts the fantasy world of corporate left-wingers.
@WineHorror: you may want to ask your client to browse around in CDC website, it is illuminating.

Rb6d says

ThreeBays says

I suggest spreading some q-anon fairy tales, together with some Alex Jones psychosis, topped with a serving of Tucker Carlson "nobody would literally believe it" bullshit.

Saying that "masks help" is BS worse than that by Alex Jones or Q-Anon. Please see below deaths by corona, comparison between CA which has strict lockdowns/mask requirements, TX which removed mask requirements and all lockdowns more than a month ago, and FL with little restrictions and mask requirements. Data are from official CDC website: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#compare-trends_newdeathsper100k

Follow the science, they said...except when it contradicts the fantasy world of corporate left-wingers.
@WineHorror: you may want to ask your client to browse around in CDC website...

I just sent the last of the 3 texts she was willing to look at. Not sure if it will make a difference or not. Some people seem to want to live scared. Amazing.

ThreeBays says

I suggest spreading some q-anon fairy tales, together with some Alex Jones psychosis, topped with a serving of Tucker Carlson "nobody would literally believe it" bullshit.

So you're following an anti science cult? Masks below N95 don't work, the science says so indisputably. And even N95 and above you have the issue if taking them on amd off and fitting them tightly otherwise you're back to square one. And even then N95 provides modest protection only. The studies are everywhere, if surgical or cloth masks would stop the spread of any airborne virus with statistical significance, they would be advertised as such and much more expensive.

mell says

if surgical or cloth masks would stop the spread of any airborne virus with statistical significance, they would be advertised as such and much more expensive.

Yes.

And on all of the surgical mask boxes it clearly states that it will not protect you from covid (the Wuhan) or any other virus.

Onvacation says

mell says

if surgical or cloth masks would stop the spread of any airborne virus with statistical significance, they would be advertised as such and much more expensive.

Yes.

And on all of the surgical mask boxes it clearly states that it will not protect you from covid (the Wuhan) or any other virus.

Also note that people wary of litigation never say wearing a mask protects you and others from covid-19 in their propaganda ads, they say "wearing a mask protects you and others from germs" which is obviously at least partially true, just not from covid.

ThreeBays says

I suggest spreading some q-anon fairy tales, together with some Alex Jones psychosis, topped with a serving of Tucker Carlson "nobody would literally believe it" bullshit.

People used to own other people as recently as 150 years ago. Lobotomies were fashionable at one point. Leeches would cure your illness. What is your point? If you don't want to question things that's your right. Masks have never been used to prevent viral infections. At least not the ones being promoted now. This is fact #science.

Post a link stating otherwise. Have fun looking.

WookieMan says

Lobotomies were fashionable at one point. Leeches would cure your illness.

Do not even have to go back that far. A buddy of mine at work was proscribed a Type II diabetes medication that turned out to have a 70% of causing Fortner gangrene in men over 50. He ended up with Fortner gangrene, and it cost him thousands in medical bills and a week off work.

HeadSet says

WookieMan says

Lobotomies were fashionable at one point. Leeches would cure your illness.

Do not even have to go back that far. A buddy of mine at work was proscribed a Type II diabetes medication that turned out to have a 70% of causing Fortner gangrene in men over 50. He ended up with Fortner gangrene, and it cost him thousands in medical bills and a week off work.

I was just going the hyperbolic route noting ridiculous treatments that "science" once said made sense and that yeah, there were slaves at one point too. Fauci will go down as a complete and utter joke once history reviews this supposed pandemic. Two cloth masks??? For fucks sake..

Sucks for you buddy though. Knock on wood I'm fortunate enough to have no ailments as of now. So I don't take anything. Didn't even take a OTC pain reliever with my recent fractured heel. I was close those first few days but resisted. Getting back to doing some longer walks of 3-5 miles and it's still painful. Couldn't imagine having diabetes where you HAVE to take medication. And you could switch doctors or meds and be fucked over. I hate big pharma and docs getting BJ's on the side from slutty saleswomen for pumping certain meds and also getting kickbacks.

I honestly don't think many docs care about the outcome of patients. Maybe 20% (80/20 rule). Sounds dark, but it's just been what I've observed. I think ER docs do, but once they've put you back together you're off to some specialist that books repeat visits for no reason or gives unnecessary treatment for the issue.

ThreeBays says

Anti-mask theories are spread by the same clowns that predicted covid wasn't more deadly than the flu. The same clowns that are now trying to argue that covid deaths are over-counted, despite the evidence that excess deaths are at least as high if not higher than official covid numbers.

Where are all the flu deaths?

You know that hundreds of studies have been done on masks vs. the Flu on a public heath level, and almost all have statistically insignificant results. And the handful that do are barely outside the MoE.

And yes,when you look at people under 65 without multiple chronic diseases, it's a very light flu season, but over the course of a year instead of 4-5 months.

10 people in NYC under 35 with no known chronic condition have died of COVID in a whole entire year.

ThreeBays says

Anti-mask theories are spread by the same clowns that predicted covid wasn't more deadly than the flu.

1. Why are death rates in CA nearly the same as in TX and FL, which do not have mask mandates?
2. Why are peer-reviewed studies, such as this one: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817, not showing efficiency of masks?
3. This is flu study: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article#r34 but it is quite telling: Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article#r34

Anti-science is strong with mask jesuits here. Seems it is similar to religion, where FACTS DON'T MATTER.

ThreeBays says

Anti-mask theories are spread by the same clowns that predicted covid wasn't more deadly than the flu. The same clowns that are now trying to argue that covid deaths are over-counted, despite the evidence that excess deaths are at least as high if not higher than official covid numbers.

Excess deaths : People not getting cancer screenings, blood pressure checks, calcium tests, MRIs, Mammograms, etc. dying from preventable or early treatable diseases due to the fear of empty hospitals, doc's office, and catching covid. This was predicted a year ago as well.

Within 10 years, if we don't become a Woke Fascist state, this will be common knowledge except for a handful of ardent Blue Anon members who will claim Trump unleashed COVID to prevent the Revolution in a complex 4D strategy to discredit Government Bureaucracies and the Enlightened Administrative State.

MisdemeanorRebel says

ardent Blue Anon members

It is telling that the collective Left is for science only when it supports their ideas. When it does not (like masks, or that there are only 2 genders/sexes), science goes out of window and they become carbon copies of Kansas school board 2005.

ThreeBays says

mandating masks at the state level (the horror, mah freedoms),

I don't take freedom lightly. They are called rights for a reason and under our constitution the government cannot abridge those freedoms (rights).

I for one want to live and am not afraid of a disease that almost exclusively kills those with comorbidities. If you are afraid of the Wuhan you have a right to mask up, get a jab of the experimental biologic agent, and hide in your basement until you die of "natural causes".

"Those that would give up essential liberty for safety will get nor deserve either".

ThreeBays says

several large counties require masks.

1. Counties can't enforce mask mandates in Texas. They can politely "ask" for masks, but they can not fine anyone.

2. ThreeBays says

Those two states have slightly higher death rates than CA

Last time FL had more covid deaths than CA (per 100K inhabitants) was Dec 20, and currently (last few days) there are less deaths per 100K in TX and FL than in CA.

3. ThreeBays says

people doing it out of good common sense

I have not seen convincing clinical studies that masks help. I have seen studies showing that masks do not matter (cited in previous post).

ThreeBays says

versus cities requiring it and people doing it out of good common sense.

My common sense tells me that most people wearing masks are idiots. Alone in the park, behind the wheel of a solo car, inside with people they are inside with every day, they are not avoiding any viruses. Is a mask really effective, when people are pulling them down to their chin, then up over their nose, then down then, then off and into the glovebox; only to wear them again?

Fascism for appearance sake is not common sense.

Rb6d says

ThreeBays says

Anti-mask theories are spread by the same clowns that predicted covid wasn't more deadly than the flu.

1. Why are death rates in CA nearly the same as in TX and FL, which do not have mask mandates?
2. Why are peer-reviewed studies, such as this one: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817, not showing efficiency of masks?
3. This is flu study: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article#r34 but it is quite telling: Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. https:/...

3 Bays is spreading fear, fear, FEAR!!

When a person/entity has to resort to lies, tricks, fraud, threats (threatening Dr's from doing what they were trained to do) and fear, FEAR FEAR!!! they lose all credibility and should be completely shunned. This is a fraudulent debacle.

ThreeBays says

Is that like spreading fear of insufficient oxygen if breathing through a mask? Or the fear of injecting biological agents if you get a vaccine?

No. There is a difference between spreading fear propaganda and pointing out the truth.

Do you not believe masks restrict breathing?

Do you have evidence that the experimental biologic agent is "safe and effective?

Not expecting a cogent answer from a fear propagandist.

ThreeBays says

WineHorror1 says

When a person/entity has to resort to lies, tricks, fraud, threats (threatening Dr's from doing what they were trained to do) and fear, FEAR FEAR!!! they lose all credibility and should be completely shunned. This is a fraudulent debacle.

Is that like spreading fear of insufficient oxygen if breathing through a mask? Or the fear of injecting biological agents if you get a vaccine?

You're way off base. It has to do with others trying to force you to do things you do not want to do. PERIOD. It's called tyranny. Get on board the FREEDOM TRAIN instead of the Soy Boi train.

ThreeBays says

WineHorror1 says

When a person/entity has to resort to lies, tricks, fraud, threats (threatening Dr's from doing what they were trained to do) and fear, FEAR FEAR!!! they lose all credibility and should be completely shunned. This is a fraudulent debacle.

Is that like spreading fear of insufficient oxygen if breathing through a mask? Or the fear of injecting biological agents if you get a vaccine?

The lack of oxygenation is proven as well, nobody in their right mind with good intentions would recommend wearing a mask for a prolonged time. Esp. damaging to kids if worn over a prolonged time frame. Do no harm instead of spreading dangerous half truths. Yes wearing a mask briefly will likely do no harm as long as you're not exercising with high intensity. Leave it on longer each day and you sure will suffer health consequences and hypoxia. Why do you think asthmatics (and others) are exempt from the mask rule? Wearing a mask may kill them.

Masks work from my experience... 37% drop in Rite Aid profits for cold medicine prove they atleast work for keeping people from getting regular colds and the flu.

My family have made it a full year without as much as a head cold. Sure social distancing played a role... my kid still does 15-20 hours of competitive sports a week since last summer so we do have exposure to people and groups consistently. Zero illnesses in a full year.. a record for my family for sure!

BoomAndBustCycle says

my kid still does 15-20 hours of competitive sports a week since last summer so we do have exposure to people and groups consistently. Zero illnesses in a full year.

And you attribute that to cold medicine? LMFAO. Why hasn't anyone ever thought of taking cold medicine before? Delusions.