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Patrick says

The truth is all flu deaths are being counted as CCP Virus deaths.

As well as strokes, heart attacks, COPD, cancer, car wrecks, motorcycle accidents, slips and falls, and random gunfire.

@WineHorror1
https://t.co/Du2pZk31fM?amp=1

You could also look at states that were fully locked down and the timing when mask mandates kicked in.

Numbers were dropping without masks and then the mandates kicked in and numbers steadily increases to our recent peak in December.

Hyper masking states with good weather and UV like CA kept increasing. I’m still convinced that droplets on surfaces and adjusting you mask constantly and then continually breathing in that viral load is worse than no mask.

And if they say science, just remind them about lobotomies and things like blood letting. Those were all science at one point. That’s the most frequent response from a masker that is willing to have an honest discussion.

Your missing an opportunity to double your prices to this client - "due to covid related expenses". Why try to disabuse this idiot (and one would have to be a complete idiot to buy the covid narrative) of his ignorance. Take advantage of it!

stfu says

Your missing an opportunity to double your prices to this client - "due to covid related expenses". Why try to disabuse this idiot (and one would have to be a complete idiot to buy the covid narrative) of his ignorance. Take advantage of it!

It's better to help spread the good news that Covid isn't the killer everyone is scared of.

So far I've sent this...

@Winehorror1

Check out this comment, you may find it useful.

https://patrick.net/post/1338601?offset=0#comment-1742217

I want to send this but maybe even this is too much to read?

"The Geneva Conventions are a group of legal doctrines which become the law of any nation ratifying it. Nearly every state has
done so. Which brings us back to the universal right of Informed Consent which allows each person to make, without pressure,
coercion, over reach or punishment, the decision to accept or reject any medical treatment.

The Covid "vaccine" is NOT a vaccine. It is a shot, a medical treatment. Calling it a vaccine is how the vaccine companies get
immunity from lawsuits from death and medical issues caused by the shot. And since there are other effective treatments for
Covid, there is no NEED to take the shot. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are proven, effective, cheap, safe and have been in use
for many decades.

https://trialsitenews.com/top-yale-doctor-researcher-ivermectin-works-including-for-long-haul-covid/"

WineHorror1 says

The Covid "vaccine" is NOT a vaccine. It is a shot, a medical treatment.

J&J vaccine is a vaccine by all definitions (it is old technology), the newer mRNA versions might or might not be, depending on definition, so this is a weakish argument.

Rb6d says

WineHorror1 says

The Covid "vaccine" is NOT a vaccine. It is a shot, a medical treatment.

J&J vaccine is a vaccine by all definitions (it is old technology), the newer mRNA versions might or might not be, depending on definition, so this is a weakish argument.

What is the definition of a vaccine? If I get vaccinated, than I am immune, correct? None of these "vaccines" give immunity, correct?

stfu says

double your prices to this client - "due to covid related expenses".

Best strategy yet.

The client will be coming to you with evidence that the masks are unnecessary and the Wuhan is not as dangerous as they say. If deadbeats weren't incentivized, government workers weren't earning full salary working from home, and the hospitals weren't getting a bonus every time they said the Wuhan killed someone, there never would have been a "pandemic".

If you want people to listen, hit them in the wallet.

WineHorror1 says

If I get vaccinated, than I am immune, correct?

no, I don't think so. And these vaccines do decrease your chance of contracting corona. So this is arguing about semantics, better find something they are lying about and present that, like "masks should be work because they help"<----no they don't, or "corona is extremely deadly"<-----no it is not, CDC has numbers on its website, I referenced them a few weeks ago, corona is about as deadly as regular flu for people below 50.

Vaccine: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious disease

Rb6d says

And these vaccines do decrease your chance of contracting corona.

Holy shit, then stop calling them vaccines.

theoakman says

Nj right now has the worst numbers and everyone here is a die hard masker

Plan on going to the beach there this summer, maskless, just like last summer.

WineHorror1 says

It's better to help spread the good news that Covid isn't the killer everyone is scared of.

Yeah, quote the death rates by age.

WineHorror1 says

Holy shit, then stop calling them vaccines.

I don't think that vaccine medical definition includes 100% protection from the disease.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/vaccine

Booger says

WineHorror1 says

It's better to help spread the good news that Covid isn't the killer everyone is scared of.

Yeah, quote the death rates by age.

Even better: point out that CCP Virus extends life because the median age of a virus death is greater than the median age of all deaths.

Patrick says

Even better: point out that CCP Virus extends life because the median age of a virus death is greater than the median age of all deaths.

Excellent point! People have to die before the average life expectancy can go up.

Wuhan is a reaper; it takes out the sick. And yes, obesity is a severe comorbidity.

On a side note. Martinez seems to be open for business. My wife and I just went for a bike ride through town and there were 3 (THREE) live bands. They close some of the roads downtown and set up tables. All the restaurants have outdoor diners unmasked in the middle of main street. Mid 70's and sunny. It's MORE crowded than it was before the Wuhan! The dancing ladies are out and the microbrew is flowing.

There are still a lot of maskers, but fuck them if they don't want to breathe fresh air.

Onvacation says

There are still a lot of maskers, but fuck them if they don't want to breathe fresh air.

I went hiking here in SD and it was about 50:50. My condo complex was abuzz and had about the same ratio.

Beautiful day.

Funny.

As.

Shit.

This is what I sent for text #2...

"The median age of a Covid death (80 years old) is greater than the median age of all deaths (78 years old).

Since there are other effective treatments for Covid, there is no NEED to take the shot. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are proven, effective, cheap, safe and have been in use for many decades.

This is the top Dr. at Yale.
https://trialsitenews.com/top-yale-doctor-researcher-ivermectin-works-including-for-long-haul-covid/

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/two-weeks-after-reopening-and-dropping-mask-mandate-texas-covid-cases

This is what I decided to send for the final text...

https://mobile.twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1376627040367960064

Apparently SARS-Cov2 virus avoids Neanderthal hosts. I identify as a Neanderthal for purposes of COVID 19. It must be so, the Bidet said so.

ThreeBays says

I suggest spreading some q-anon fairy tales, together with some Alex Jones psychosis, topped with a serving of Tucker Carlson "nobody would literally believe it" bullshit.

Saying that "masks help" is BS worse than that by Alex Jones or Q-Anon. Please see below deaths by corona, comparison between CA which has strict lockdowns/mask requirements, TX which removed mask requirements and all lockdowns more than a month ago, and FL with little restrictions and mask requirements. Data are from official CDC website: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#compare-trends_newdeathsper100k

Follow the science, they said...except when it contradicts the fantasy world of corporate left-wingers.
@WineHorror: you may want to ask your client to browse around in CDC website, it is illuminating.

Rb6d says

ThreeBays says

I suggest spreading some q-anon fairy tales, together with some Alex Jones psychosis, topped with a serving of Tucker Carlson "nobody would literally believe it" bullshit.

Saying that "masks help" is BS worse than that by Alex Jones or Q-Anon. Please see below deaths by corona, comparison between CA which has strict lockdowns/mask requirements, TX which removed mask requirements and all lockdowns more than a month ago, and FL with little restrictions and mask requirements. Data are from official CDC website: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#compare-trends_newdeathsper100k

Follow the science, they said...except when it contradicts the fantasy world of corporate left-wingers.
@WineHorror: you may want to ask your client to browse around in CDC website...

I just sent the last of the 3 texts she was willing to look at. Not sure if it will make a difference or not. Some people seem to want to live scared. Amazing.

ThreeBays says

I suggest spreading some q-anon fairy tales, together with some Alex Jones psychosis, topped with a serving of Tucker Carlson "nobody would literally believe it" bullshit.

So you're following an anti science cult? Masks below N95 don't work, the science says so indisputably. And even N95 and above you have the issue if taking them on amd off and fitting them tightly otherwise you're back to square one. And even then N95 provides modest protection only. The studies are everywhere, if surgical or cloth masks would stop the spread of any airborne virus with statistical significance, they would be advertised as such and much more expensive.

mell says

if surgical or cloth masks would stop the spread of any airborne virus with statistical significance, they would be advertised as such and much more expensive.

Yes.

And on all of the surgical mask boxes it clearly states that it will not protect you from covid (the Wuhan) or any other virus.

Onvacation says

mell says

if surgical or cloth masks would stop the spread of any airborne virus with statistical significance, they would be advertised as such and much more expensive.

Yes.

And on all of the surgical mask boxes it clearly states that it will not protect you from covid (the Wuhan) or any other virus.

Also note that people wary of litigation never say wearing a mask protects you and others from covid-19 in their propaganda ads, they say "wearing a mask protects you and others from germs" which is obviously at least partially true, just not from covid.

ThreeBays says

I suggest spreading some q-anon fairy tales, together with some Alex Jones psychosis, topped with a serving of Tucker Carlson "nobody would literally believe it" bullshit.

People used to own other people as recently as 150 years ago. Lobotomies were fashionable at one point. Leeches would cure your illness. What is your point? If you don't want to question things that's your right. Masks have never been used to prevent viral infections. At least not the ones being promoted now. This is fact #science.

Post a link stating otherwise. Have fun looking.

WookieMan says

Lobotomies were fashionable at one point. Leeches would cure your illness.

Do not even have to go back that far. A buddy of mine at work was proscribed a Type II diabetes medication that turned out to have a 70% of causing Fortner gangrene in men over 50. He ended up with Fortner gangrene, and it cost him thousands in medical bills and a week off work.

HeadSet says

WookieMan says

Lobotomies were fashionable at one point. Leeches would cure your illness.

Do not even have to go back that far. A buddy of mine at work was proscribed a Type II diabetes medication that turned out to have a 70% of causing Fortner gangrene in men over 50. He ended up with Fortner gangrene, and it cost him thousands in medical bills and a week off work.

I was just going the hyperbolic route noting ridiculous treatments that "science" once said made sense and that yeah, there were slaves at one point too. Fauci will go down as a complete and utter joke once history reviews this supposed pandemic. Two cloth masks??? For fucks sake..

Sucks for you buddy though. Knock on wood I'm fortunate enough to have no ailments as of now. So I don't take anything. Didn't even take a OTC pain reliever with my recent fractured heel. I was close those first few days but resisted. Getting back to doing some longer walks of 3-5 miles and it's still painful. Couldn't imagine having diabetes where you HAVE to take medication. And you could switch doctors or meds and be fucked over. I hate big pharma and docs getting BJ's on the side from slutty saleswomen for pumping certain meds and also getting kickbacks.

I honestly don't think many docs care about the outcome of patients. Maybe 20% (80/20 rule). Sounds dark, but it's just been what I've observed. I think ER docs do, but once they've put you back together you're off to some specialist that books repeat visits for no reason or gives unnecessary treatment for the issue.

ThreeBays says

Anti-mask theories are spread by the same clowns that predicted covid wasn't more deadly than the flu. The same clowns that are now trying to argue that covid deaths are over-counted, despite the evidence that excess deaths are at least as high if not higher than official covid numbers.

Where are all the flu deaths?

You know that hundreds of studies have been done on masks vs. the Flu on a public heath level, and almost all have statistically insignificant results. And the handful that do are barely outside the MoE.

And yes,when you look at people under 65 without multiple chronic diseases, it's a very light flu season, but over the course of a year instead of 4-5 months.

10 people in NYC under 35 with no known chronic condition have died of COVID in a whole entire year.

ThreeBays says

Anti-mask theories are spread by the same clowns that predicted covid wasn't more deadly than the flu.

1. Why are death rates in CA nearly the same as in TX and FL, which do not have mask mandates?
2. Why are peer-reviewed studies, such as this one: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817, not showing efficiency of masks?
3. This is flu study: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article#r34 but it is quite telling: Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article#r34

Anti-science is strong with mask jesuits here. Seems it is similar to religion, where FACTS DON'T MATTER.

ThreeBays says

Anti-mask theories are spread by the same clowns that predicted covid wasn't more deadly than the flu. The same clowns that are now trying to argue that covid deaths are over-counted, despite the evidence that excess deaths are at least as high if not higher than official covid numbers.

Excess deaths : People not getting cancer screenings, blood pressure checks, calcium tests, MRIs, Mammograms, etc. dying from preventable or early treatable diseases due to the fear of empty hospitals, doc's office, and catching covid. This was predicted a year ago as well.

Within 10 years, if we don't become a Woke Fascist state, this will be common knowledge except for a handful of ardent Blue Anon members who will claim Trump unleashed COVID to prevent the Revolution in a complex 4D strategy to discredit Government Bureaucracies and the Enlightened Administrative State.

MisdemeanorRebel says

ardent Blue Anon members

It is telling that the collective Left is for science only when it supports their ideas. When it does not (like masks, or that there are only 2 genders/sexes), science goes out of window and they become carbon copies of Kansas school board 2005.