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theoakman
2020 Jun 13, 4:39pm
HEYYOU says
You don't need to run from the pandemic. Most people might get a cough. Most don't get anything at all. The only thing you need to run from is draconian lockdowns.
One can run from many things but not a pandemic that has no vaccine.One could describe it as : Goes around,comes around,goes around,comes around,goes arou...... No one should consider the effects of climate change on the habitat in a new area as compared with one's present possible future habitat.
You don't need to run from the pandemic. Most people might get a cough. Most don't get anything at all. The only thing you need to run from is draconian lockdowns.
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mell
2020 Jun 13, 4:48pm
Right it's imbecilic to fear this - you have to extremely unlucky like with any other catastrophe that could happen. My ~50 yr old cousin overseas had it and didn't have any symptoms except for loss of smell/taste. Not even cold symptoms, he kept working every day and because almost the whole family caught it he was tested and had high levels of antibodies rendering him immune.
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RC2006
2020 Jun 13, 4:51pm
RC2006
2020 Jun 13, 4:51pm
My wife is saying the same. We've looked at Oregon and TX. Now we are looking at Boise Idaho, taking a trip there next month to check it out.
Family been here for a hundred years it's almost unimaginable how bad liberals have destroyed it over the last 30-40 years.
Family been here for a hundred years it's almost unimaginable how bad liberals have destroyed it over the last 30-40 years.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Jun 13, 4:57pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Jun 13, 4:57pm
RC2006 says
The govt entity I work for...Idaho and Texas seem to be the most popular destinations. It’s actually like a flood leaving California.
My wife is saying the same. We've looked at Oregon and TX. No we are looking at Boise Idaho, taking a trip there next month to check it out.
Family been here for a hundred years it's almost unimaginable how bad liberals have destroyed it over the last 30-40 years.
The govt entity I work for...Idaho and Texas seem to be the most popular destinations. It’s actually like a flood leaving California.
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Booger
2020 Jun 13, 5:08pm
Booger
2020 Jun 13, 5:08pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
You are concerned about winter in Tennessee????? WTF???
Other places I’d look at are Tennessee and South Carolina, but jobs are a consideration in both places as are winters in Tennessee.
You are concerned about winter in Tennessee????? WTF???
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Onvacation
2020 Jun 13, 5:09pm
Onvacation
2020 Jun 13, 5:09pm
If you move, go somewhere and rent for at least a year.
I fell in love with Portland Oregon back in the mid 90s while on business in the spring and fall. Job ended in California so I started looking in Portland.
New job within a week.
I discovered ice storms and months on end with NO sun. Still like Portland but wouldn't want to live there.
Back in Cali within 20 miles of where I was born.
We consider leaving when we retire, but not sure where to go. I like Port Townsend WA area but not sure I could handle the weather. Want to be close to the water.
I fell in love with Portland Oregon back in the mid 90s while on business in the spring and fall. Job ended in California so I started looking in Portland.
New job within a week.
I discovered ice storms and months on end with NO sun. Still like Portland but wouldn't want to live there.
Back in Cali within 20 miles of where I was born.
We consider leaving when we retire, but not sure where to go. I like Port Townsend WA area but not sure I could handle the weather. Want to be close to the water.
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Dholliday126
2020 Jun 13, 5:12pm
Dholliday126
2020 Jun 13, 5:12pm
The problem is where are you going to go, once TX or FL go blue it's over.
They will dismantle our history, install the new history; dismantle religion and install their own religion. If you're white you're a racist, Christian a bigot. Its coming, there won't be too many place to hide. Just start to unplug from the system; live cheap, have assets so as they destroy the dollar you wont go broke, live out of the city where its white, have lots of kids and get to church. Just try to ride out the 4th turning while all these cultural marxists, moral relativists eat one another alive.
They will dismantle our history, install the new history; dismantle religion and install their own religion. If you're white you're a racist, Christian a bigot. Its coming, there won't be too many place to hide. Just start to unplug from the system; live cheap, have assets so as they destroy the dollar you wont go broke, live out of the city where its white, have lots of kids and get to church. Just try to ride out the 4th turning while all these cultural marxists, moral relativists eat one another alive.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 13, 5:24pm
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 13, 5:24pm
I think you are right Dholliday126. In 10 years there will be a new world dictator and only state sanctioned religion and politically correct speech and thought will be tolerated. The offenders who violate the new world government will be separated from their heads.
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Kepi
2020 Jun 13, 5:46pm
Kepi
2020 Jun 13, 5:46pm
Ceffer says
You are being quite generous with information. I wonder if you would expand on "air dropped the ghetto." Quite an image.
Then, it got crazier. They air dropped the ghetto across from our nice neighborhood, and the neighborhood itself started losing all resemblance to a Western paradigm.
You are being quite generous with information. I wonder if you would expand on "air dropped the ghetto." Quite an image.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Jun 13, 5:51pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Jun 13, 5:51pm
Booger says
I’m born and raised Los Angeles.
That’s Big Bear winter weather which means cold and snow.
Its cold to me...
FuckTheMainstreamMedia saysOther places I’d look at are Tennessee and South Carolina, but jobs are a consideration in both places as are winters in Tennessee.
You are concerned about winter in Tennessee????? WTF???
I’m born and raised Los Angeles.
That’s Big Bear winter weather which means cold and snow.
Its cold to me...
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clambo
2020 Jun 13, 6:06pm
By coincidence I am in Santa Cruz after a 5 year hiatus in the best area of Florida.
Florida was okay but I remember disliking the rainy summers and heat, it can be tiring.
Boating was great as was scuba diving if you do that. Surf was almost nonexistent.
Downtown Santa Cruz is a shock and crowds, traffic, politics all suck.
The crazies have taken over, and many foolish people feel sorry for them.
I feel the slight sensation of a target on my back as a white male.
I once lived in Oregon from summer until late October, the rain up there would kill me during the winter.
I liked Baja California Sur Mexico but I am bilingual and know the area well. I’m only worried about any medical problem not being treated in time, I have geezer thoughts after my time in Florida. In Mexico you aren’t minutes away from medical treatment.
Avoiding the Santa Cruz downtown area and going to beaches or even west cliff leaves bums and craziness behind.
I may return to Florida as a tax strategy someday.
What I miss when not in California is the weather and the views.
My neighbor is from Idaho and she thinks she will go back someday. I don’t know how high taxes are up there. It might be attractive if you could escape the winter for a warmer place.
Florida was okay but I remember disliking the rainy summers and heat, it can be tiring.
Boating was great as was scuba diving if you do that. Surf was almost nonexistent.
Downtown Santa Cruz is a shock and crowds, traffic, politics all suck.
The crazies have taken over, and many foolish people feel sorry for them.
I feel the slight sensation of a target on my back as a white male.
I once lived in Oregon from summer until late October, the rain up there would kill me during the winter.
I liked Baja California Sur Mexico but I am bilingual and know the area well. I’m only worried about any medical problem not being treated in time, I have geezer thoughts after my time in Florida. In Mexico you aren’t minutes away from medical treatment.
Avoiding the Santa Cruz downtown area and going to beaches or even west cliff leaves bums and craziness behind.
I may return to Florida as a tax strategy someday.
What I miss when not in California is the weather and the views.
My neighbor is from Idaho and she thinks she will go back someday. I don’t know how high taxes are up there. It might be attractive if you could escape the winter for a warmer place.
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Patrick
2020 Jun 13, 6:17pm
Patrick
2020 Jun 13, 6:17pm
mell says
Sadly, this is true. I use to think Portland was the place I wanted to be, but I visited and was disgusted and a bit worried for my physical safety.
Then I visited again, and it was even worse.
Portland going to shit long time ago already like SF.
Sadly, this is true. I use to think Portland was the place I wanted to be, but I visited and was disgusted and a bit worried for my physical safety.
Then I visited again, and it was even worse.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 13, 6:19pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 13, 6:19pm
Dholliday126 says
Be of good hope: Demographics says the Mormons, Amish, Evangelicals, and Calvinists will very soon dwarf the secular Liberals. And they start from a base much larger than Islamic Immigrants.
Leftist Harridans don't replace themselves: Birthrates below 1.5, 2.1 is replacement. Mormons, Hassidics, and "Quiverful" Protestants have 3 or more on average
You'd also be shocked at how rapidly fundamentalist Protestantism is sweeping Latin America and accounts for a huge percentage of Latin American immigrants, sometimes before they cross.
The Methodist Church was already rescued from Amherst Lesbians by African and Korean traditionalists. Nobody saw that coming; the Methodists were expected to be the first church that fully embraced LGBTQABC123, now they're the first mainline church to reject it. The Book of Discipline remains.
Mormons are more likely than Muslims to marry within the Faith, they are net neutral for conversions/abandonment, and have an average of 3.4 children. Mormons in GenX still had 2.54, way above replacement rate, and Mormonism is one of the few Faiths in the US where women want more kids than the men do (3.2 vs. 2.6)
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/05/22/mormons-more-likely-to-marry-have-more-children-than-other-u-s-religious-groups/
In 10-15 years the country is going to be a very, very different place.
One of the reasons the tide may be rushing in with maximum assistance from the Ultra Wealthy for Borderless Bureaucratic Corporate Socialism, is their cognizance of the situation.
They will dismantle our history, install the new history; dismantle religion and install their own religion. If you're white you're a racist, Christian a bigot. Its coming, there won't be too many place to hide. Just start to unplug from the system; live cheap, have assets so as they destroy the dollar you wont go broke, live out of the city where its white, have lots of kids and get to church. Just try to ride out the 4th turning while all these cultural marxists, moral relativists eat one another alive.PeopleUnited says
I think you are right Dholliday126. In 10 years there will be a new world dictator and only state sanctioned religion and politically correct speech and thought will be tolerated. The offenders who violate the new world government will be separated from their heads.
Be of good hope: Demographics says the Mormons, Amish, Evangelicals, and Calvinists will very soon dwarf the secular Liberals. And they start from a base much larger than Islamic Immigrants.
Leftist Harridans don't replace themselves: Birthrates below 1.5, 2.1 is replacement. Mormons, Hassidics, and "Quiverful" Protestants have 3 or more on average
You'd also be shocked at how rapidly fundamentalist Protestantism is sweeping Latin America and accounts for a huge percentage of Latin American immigrants, sometimes before they cross.
The Methodist Church was already rescued from Amherst Lesbians by African and Korean traditionalists. Nobody saw that coming; the Methodists were expected to be the first church that fully embraced LGBTQABC123, now they're the first mainline church to reject it. The Book of Discipline remains.
Mormons are more likely than Muslims to marry within the Faith, they are net neutral for conversions/abandonment, and have an average of 3.4 children. Mormons in GenX still had 2.54, way above replacement rate, and Mormonism is one of the few Faiths in the US where women want more kids than the men do (3.2 vs. 2.6)
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/05/22/mormons-more-likely-to-marry-have-more-children-than-other-u-s-religious-groups/
In 10-15 years the country is going to be a very, very different place.
One of the reasons the tide may be rushing in with maximum assistance from the Ultra Wealthy for Borderless Bureaucratic Corporate Socialism, is their cognizance of the situation.
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Patrick
2020 Jun 13, 6:26pm
Patrick
2020 Jun 13, 6:26pm
NoCoupForYou says
This is true and is cause for hope, but feminism/leftism is like an endemic disease which infects the brains of the mentally healthy young and renders them insane and sterile. It's usually transmitted at universities, and the real irony is that parents pay to have their children infected this way.
The feminist/leftist mental infection can go on forever, potentially, as long as it doesn't completely overtake the healthy population which has families and children and cut off its own source of victims. There's a reason that gays call people with normal sexuality "breeders".
Leftist Harridans don't replace themselves
This is true and is cause for hope, but feminism/leftism is like an endemic disease which infects the brains of the mentally healthy young and renders them insane and sterile. It's usually transmitted at universities, and the real irony is that parents pay to have their children infected this way.
The feminist/leftist mental infection can go on forever, potentially, as long as it doesn't completely overtake the healthy population which has families and children and cut off its own source of victims. There's a reason that gays call people with normal sexuality "breeders".
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Onvacation
2020 Jun 13, 6:28pm
Onvacation
2020 Jun 13, 6:28pm
I enjoyed my year in Portland 25 years ago. Fun blues scene, lots of nature nearby, and decent transportation. I loved Powell's bookstore and Rocco's pizza. Good microbrews. There was a weird tatted and pierced subculture but they seemed harmless. Anyone with any skills and experience could get a good paying IT job.
But the weather. If it didn't rain for a week in summer it started to smell. I went 70 days straight without sun. I got a better offer in San Diego before my year lease was up and moved on.
But the weather. If it didn't rain for a week in summer it started to smell. I went 70 days straight without sun. I got a better offer in San Diego before my year lease was up and moved on.
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Onvacation
2020 Jun 13, 6:30pm
Onvacation
2020 Jun 13, 6:30pm
Patrick says
Portland was pretty squalid when I last visited in 2010. I imagine antifa has not helped.
Then I visited again, and it was even worse.
Portland was pretty squalid when I last visited in 2010. I imagine antifa has not helped.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 13, 6:31pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Jun 13, 6:31pm
Patrick says
Right, this is a huge problem. However, an advantage is, parents that are traditional, having large families and often a stay-at-home or parttime mother, are going to be far, far more active in K-12 affairs.
I believe working mothers allowed Leftist Radicals to infiltrate the curriculum and schools simply by default in the 80s and 90s; there was nobody there to stop them. In the future, it won't be the case.
Another great advantage Fundamentalists have is that they often disavow wayward kids (that means leaving the Faith comes with costs, loss of friends/family & inheritance, unlike in mainline/secular society) AND, they build Parallel Institutions.
The best thing to push right now is for School Vouchers. Leftists hate it, and it's not just because of the Teacher's Union, but because if you could take your $10k/kid/year to the Catholic Church, the Jesus is Lord School, or the Classical Academy High School, there goes the propaganda imprisonment from Public School.
Somewhat off topic: Anybody else notice that general "religion news" websites are often the most Pozzed?
This is true and is cause for hope, but feminism/leftism is like an endemic disease which infects the brains of the mentally healthy young and renders them insane and sterile. It's usually transmitted at universities, and the real irony is that parents pay to have their children infected this way.
The feminist/leftist mental infection can go on forever, potentially, as long as it doesn't completely overtake the healthy population which has families and children and cut off its own source of victims. There's a reason that gays call people with normal sexuality "breeders".
Right, this is a huge problem. However, an advantage is, parents that are traditional, having large families and often a stay-at-home or parttime mother, are going to be far, far more active in K-12 affairs.
I believe working mothers allowed Leftist Radicals to infiltrate the curriculum and schools simply by default in the 80s and 90s; there was nobody there to stop them. In the future, it won't be the case.
Another great advantage Fundamentalists have is that they often disavow wayward kids (that means leaving the Faith comes with costs, loss of friends/family & inheritance, unlike in mainline/secular society) AND, they build Parallel Institutions.
The best thing to push right now is for School Vouchers. Leftists hate it, and it's not just because of the Teacher's Union, but because if you could take your $10k/kid/year to the Catholic Church, the Jesus is Lord School, or the Classical Academy High School, there goes the propaganda imprisonment from Public School.
Somewhat off topic: Anybody else notice that general "religion news" websites are often the most Pozzed?
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BayArea
2020 Jun 13, 6:34pm
BayArea
2020 Jun 13, 6:34pm
Patrick says
Everywhere I went was purple hair and Emo.
mell saysPortland going to shit long time ago already like SF.
Sadly, this is true. I use to think Portland was the place I wanted to be, but I visited and was disgusted and a bit worried for my physical safety.
Then I visited again, and it was even worse.
Everywhere I went was purple hair and Emo.
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Bd6r
2020 Jun 13, 6:40pm
Bd6r
2020 Jun 13, 6:40pm
Dholliday126 says
Talk to TX Hispanics outside big cities, you will regain hope. Corpus I mentioned above is ca. 50% Hispanic, and to be honest, I's rather live among TX Hispanics than among CA whites (bless heart of CA inhabitants here). Exception: new generation of yuppie Hispanics in large cities, they are just as insane as white yuppies.
The problem is where are you going to go, once TX or FL go blue it's over.
They will dismantle our history, install the new history; dismantle religion and install their own religion. If you're white you're a racist, Christian a bigot. Its coming, there won't be too many place to hide. Just start to unplug from the system; live cheap, have assets so as they destroy the dollar you wont go broke, live out of the city where its white, have lots of kids and get to church. Just try to ride out the 4th turning while all these cultural marxists, moral relativists eat one another alive.
Talk to TX Hispanics outside big cities, you will regain hope. Corpus I mentioned above is ca. 50% Hispanic, and to be honest, I's rather live among TX Hispanics than among CA whites (bless heart of CA inhabitants here). Exception: new generation of yuppie Hispanics in large cities, they are just as insane as white yuppies.
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theoakman
2020 Jun 13, 6:59pm
I'm getting jealous of my cousins that moved from Boston to Florida. They have been eating out in Florida for a month. Posting pictures on facebook. Now, they are on vacation. I saw them eating out at a picnic table in New Hampshire and now Maine. Meanwhile, in New Jersey, Murphy is marching with BLM and still has us banned from getting a haircut, sitting at a picnic table, or allowing our kids on a public playground.
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Shaman
2020 Jun 13, 7:22pm
Shaman
2020 Jun 13, 7:22pm
Santa Cruz might be your problem. Plenty of normal communities out there, but that one is not. Not even a little.
My suggestion: don’t be scared to live in a mixed neighborhood with blue collar people and a fairly good mix of Latinos. People are more real and more fun.
My suggestion: don’t be scared to live in a mixed neighborhood with blue collar people and a fairly good mix of Latinos. People are more real and more fun.
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AD
2020 Jun 13, 7:23pm
AD
2020 Jun 13, 7:23pm
Ceffer says
Florida panhandle from Pensacola to Panama City Beach.......
or Alabama Gulf Shores or Orange Beach or Florabama .....
Don't know how this will pan out, but we will be shopping for locales. I will miss surfing and the ocean, but they even shut that down for a while.
Florida panhandle from Pensacola to Panama City Beach.......
or Alabama Gulf Shores or Orange Beach or Florabama .....
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RC2006
2020 Jun 13, 7:45pm
RC2006
2020 Jun 13, 7:45pm
Taxes in Boise 40+% less, very mild winters, 350k buys nice house, very white, can own whatever gun I want, and lots of outdoor stuff.
I would consider Oregon but not in or near Portland.
TX seems ok but not my cup oh tea I had to work in Dallas for a month and didn't like the heat.
I would consider Oregon but not in or near Portland.
TX seems ok but not my cup oh tea I had to work in Dallas for a month and didn't like the heat.
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Ceffer
2020 Jun 13, 8:21pm
Ceffer
2020 Jun 13, 8:21pm
The areas from Bend Oregon on the eastern side of the Cascades up through Hood River and the Columbia River Gorge are reputedly conservative without the winter rain and overcast blues. However, I know one guy who spends eight months in Hood River and four months in Maui because he still doesn't like the winters in Hood River. Lots of wind surfing and paddle surfing in the Columbia River Gorge. Problem would be selling the wife on it.
I wouldn't mind Idaho. The further north you go, one would have to consider wintering in another area. Of course, other considerations are quality of health care, entertainments etc. I used to think I would like to be in some kind of college town, but with the progressives putting virtually every institution and its environs in the crapper, I'm not so sure now.
General problem is populations of dirtbags have increased all over the USA, and many areas that used to be OK to nice aren't any more, and they are all crowded, too.
I know one guy who retired in the Sierra Vista area of Arizona (high desert 4-5000 ft for milder climate) and liked it very much. He speaks Spanish, but the communities are very nice and mixed without gang bangers.
My wife is from New Orleans, and the areas from Bay St. Louis through to Pascagoula used to be very nice, but they get bowled by hurricanes quite often.
I would actually be OK with select areas of Utah, but my wife is nyet.
I wouldn't mind Idaho. The further north you go, one would have to consider wintering in another area. Of course, other considerations are quality of health care, entertainments etc. I used to think I would like to be in some kind of college town, but with the progressives putting virtually every institution and its environs in the crapper, I'm not so sure now.
General problem is populations of dirtbags have increased all over the USA, and many areas that used to be OK to nice aren't any more, and they are all crowded, too.
I know one guy who retired in the Sierra Vista area of Arizona (high desert 4-5000 ft for milder climate) and liked it very much. He speaks Spanish, but the communities are very nice and mixed without gang bangers.
My wife is from New Orleans, and the areas from Bay St. Louis through to Pascagoula used to be very nice, but they get bowled by hurricanes quite often.
I would actually be OK with select areas of Utah, but my wife is nyet.
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Patrick
2020 Jun 14, 10:13am
Patrick
2020 Jun 14, 10:13am
I want to live near family. One regret about California is that we don't have many relatives here. I hunted down a few in the Bay Area and that was fun, but I miss the experience I had as a kid in southwest suburban Chicago. It was objectively shit, as in train tracks and trucking, pollution and crime, but I could walk to relatives, and had tons more in easy driving distance. There was none of this alienation which is so common now.
So we think of places we have relatives nearby, but tbh none of them are very appealing. So that leads to inertia and we just stay here, where we have at least accumulated a lot of acquaintances and some friends.
Sometimes I dream about moving to Ireland. I've loved it every time I went, 6x now, but we know very few people there. One cousin married an Irish guy and moved there and is churning out kids. Then again, Dublin has gotten worse each time I've been there. The north side of the Liffey is not Irish at all anymore, and more than a little dangerous looking. And the poz is visible.
So we think of places we have relatives nearby, but tbh none of them are very appealing. So that leads to inertia and we just stay here, where we have at least accumulated a lot of acquaintances and some friends.
Sometimes I dream about moving to Ireland. I've loved it every time I went, 6x now, but we know very few people there. One cousin married an Irish guy and moved there and is churning out kids. Then again, Dublin has gotten worse each time I've been there. The north side of the Liffey is not Irish at all anymore, and more than a little dangerous looking. And the poz is visible.
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socal2
2020 Jun 14, 10:31am
There are still many pockets of sanity in Coastal California that haven't been totally ruined and worth sticking it out. I am so fortunate to live in Carlsbad and have access to world class surf all year round with sane communities, strong economic base and good local government. I can't imagine moving back to Chicago or Indianapolis where I grew up. Especially Chicago - no fucking way.
Don't abandon paradise to the Commies, race hustlers and weirdos, get involved and fight. This is a great cycle for local Conservative politicians to make the contrast to the train-wrecks of Seattle, LA, New York, Minneapolis and other cities dominated by Progressives.
Go after their main source of funding/corruption (Public Sector Unions) and hang it around their necks if they want to talk shit about defunding the police or some "re-imagining" of the police force. Same deal with Teachers Unions. The Pension crisis is blowing up in real time. Lots of people being red-pilled over the lockdowns and riots.
Perfect storm for Republicans (or at least some Moderate Dems) to sweep alot locals seats in California if we take advantage of this moment.
Don't abandon paradise to the Commies, race hustlers and weirdos, get involved and fight. This is a great cycle for local Conservative politicians to make the contrast to the train-wrecks of Seattle, LA, New York, Minneapolis and other cities dominated by Progressives.
Go after their main source of funding/corruption (Public Sector Unions) and hang it around their necks if they want to talk shit about defunding the police or some "re-imagining" of the police force. Same deal with Teachers Unions. The Pension crisis is blowing up in real time. Lots of people being red-pilled over the lockdowns and riots.
Perfect storm for Republicans (or at least some Moderate Dems) to sweep alot locals seats in California if we take advantage of this moment.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 14, 12:36pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 14, 12:36pm
rd6B says
No joke about it being boring I have family from there and visited a lot as a kid. Not only that people are very poor there. The cars are all rusted out, not just peeling paint like SD. The water is pretty nasty as well. Lots of clay in the sand and tar. When you leave the beach you will have tar stuck to your lower extremities. I think it gets worse as you head East towards Galveston? It gets pretty darn nice the closer you get to Mexico though. S. Padre has (had?) nice clean white sand beaches.
Corpus
No joke about it being boring I have family from there and visited a lot as a kid. Not only that people are very poor there. The cars are all rusted out, not just peeling paint like SD. The water is pretty nasty as well. Lots of clay in the sand and tar. When you leave the beach you will have tar stuck to your lower extremities. I think it gets worse as you head East towards Galveston? It gets pretty darn nice the closer you get to Mexico though. S. Padre has (had?) nice clean white sand beaches.
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Ceffer
2020 Jun 14, 1:15pm
Ceffer
2020 Jun 14, 1:15pm
Shock of shocks in Santa Cruz, an older friend who was born and raised here may be leaving. He introduced me years ago to paddle surfing, and just built a gorgeous home in a mobile park a couple of years ago. He got the 'California Treatment' from neighbors and bull dykes at power in the development, so he has capitulated to the terror.
He told me he is selling next month, but doesn't know where he is going, but he is going to miss the ocean.
In spite of being military retired, he has endorsed the coastal liberal view point. We have gotten along just fine, but I had to rub it in:
"You finally got the liberal government you always said you wanted. They tell you if you can or can’t go to the beach or surf or travel. They tell you if you can or cannot leave your house or contact any other person. They induce shortages so you waste your time waiting in line for commodities. They pit neighbor against neighbor, children against parents, and young against the old. They sanctify ridiculous ideals and concepts in order to tyrannically dominate. They endorse and enable criminals to prey on citizens. They keep the police from doing their job, or attack the police for doing their job, or now, disband the police. They tell you what you are allowed to say or not say, or think or not think, with punishment and retaliations if you don’t toe the party line. Free speech is a memory. I doubt anybody younger than 30 even remembers what free speech was really like."
He told me he is selling next month, but doesn't know where he is going, but he is going to miss the ocean.
In spite of being military retired, he has endorsed the coastal liberal view point. We have gotten along just fine, but I had to rub it in:
"You finally got the liberal government you always said you wanted. They tell you if you can or can’t go to the beach or surf or travel. They tell you if you can or cannot leave your house or contact any other person. They induce shortages so you waste your time waiting in line for commodities. They pit neighbor against neighbor, children against parents, and young against the old. They sanctify ridiculous ideals and concepts in order to tyrannically dominate. They endorse and enable criminals to prey on citizens. They keep the police from doing their job, or attack the police for doing their job, or now, disband the police. They tell you what you are allowed to say or not say, or think or not think, with punishment and retaliations if you don’t toe the party line. Free speech is a memory. I doubt anybody younger than 30 even remembers what free speech was really like."
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Bd6r
2020 Jun 15, 5:30pm
Bd6r
2020 Jun 15, 5:30pm
just_dregalicious says
Drive a little south and water becomes crystal clear turquoise color. But last time I was there, beach was littered with Portuguese-men(persons?)-of war.
Water does get nastier the closer you get to Galveston. It is Mississippi runoff that makes everything murky. Bolivar peninsula is even worse.
jazz_music says
And weather is quite nice as well.
No joke about it being boring I have family from there and visited a lot as a kid. Not only that people are very poor there. The cars are all rusted out, not just peeling paint like SD. The water is pretty nasty as well. Lots of clay in the sand and tar. When you leave the beach you will have tar stuck to your lower extremities. I think it gets worse as you head East towards Galveston? It gets pretty darn nice the closer you get to Mexico though. S. Padre has (had?) nice clean white sand beaches.
Drive a little south and water becomes crystal clear turquoise color. But last time I was there, beach was littered with Portuguese-men(persons?)-of war.
Water does get nastier the closer you get to Galveston. It is Mississippi runoff that makes everything murky. Bolivar peninsula is even worse.
jazz_music says
A lot of people are moving to the south of Spain and the area of Portugal adjacent to Gibralter.
The coast of Portugal features epic surfing
And weather is quite nice as well.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 8:03pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 8:03pm
rd6B says
Oh, I have. I used to go 4 wheeling with pals on Padre Island. Me in my jeep and them with their trucks. You had to caravan because you get stuck constantly and need each other to get out. It's about 70 miles if I recall, just barrier island, pack your gas etc., no people for the most part, coyotes though. Shit washed up everywhere. Chinese symbols on boxes and trash, medical waste, really depressing. Hard to reach so nobody cleans it up. There is a gap between N. Padre and S. Padre so you have to go all the way back up to Corpus, get on the highway and drive a few hours to get down there to the best areas. You're right though even N. Padre the water color gets better the further you drive South.
Also, Man-o-war, you got it! When I was 4 years old my 6 year old cousin told me, "Don't kick that.", so of course, I did and (Whaaaaa!), beach trip ruined for everyone haha... Yes, Portuguese...
Drive a little south and water becomes crystal clear turquoise color. But last time I was there, beach was littered with Portuguese-men(persons?)-of war.
Water does get nastier the closer you get to Galveston. It is Mississippi runoff that makes everything murky. Bolivar peninsula is even worse.
Oh, I have. I used to go 4 wheeling with pals on Padre Island. Me in my jeep and them with their trucks. You had to caravan because you get stuck constantly and need each other to get out. It's about 70 miles if I recall, just barrier island, pack your gas etc., no people for the most part, coyotes though. Shit washed up everywhere. Chinese symbols on boxes and trash, medical waste, really depressing. Hard to reach so nobody cleans it up. There is a gap between N. Padre and S. Padre so you have to go all the way back up to Corpus, get on the highway and drive a few hours to get down there to the best areas. You're right though even N. Padre the water color gets better the further you drive South.
Also, Man-o-war, you got it! When I was 4 years old my 6 year old cousin told me, "Don't kick that.", so of course, I did and (Whaaaaa!), beach trip ruined for everyone haha... Yes, Portuguese...
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ThatGuy
2020 Jun 15, 8:34pm
If you are ACTUALLY sick of the bullshit that CA is doing, come to NV. Otherwise fuck. the. fuck. off. Go to Austin or some other BS place where you can toe the line with your bullshit. But if you're gonna vote against this shit, We begrudgingly welcome you.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 8:36pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 8:36pm
ThatGuy says
Too close and will be corrupted too much too soon! I'm going to have to leap frog when I leave.
If you are ACTUALLY sick of the bullshit that CA is doing, come to NV.
Too close and will be corrupted too much too soon! I'm going to have to leap frog when I leave.
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ThatGuy
2020 Jun 15, 8:47pm
just_dregalicious says
My plan is to wait until NV prices match CA prices and bail, cash out on the funny money
ThatGuy saysIf you are ACTUALLY sick of the bullshit that CA is doing, come to NV.
Too close and will be corrupted too much too soon! I'm going to have to leap frog when I leave.
My plan is to wait until NV prices match CA prices and bail, cash out on the funny money
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 8:55pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 8:55pm
ThatGuy says
Not a bad plan at all. I think it will work. I recall how cheap the valley was outside to SF bay area up until 2008, then it crashed, then it came back harder.
My plan is to wait until NV prices match CA prices and bail, cash out on the funny money
Not a bad plan at all. I think it will work. I recall how cheap the valley was outside to SF bay area up until 2008, then it crashed, then it came back harder.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 9:03pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 9:03pm
RC2006 says
It's a huge state with lots of different terrains and types of people. I wouldn't discount it until you've experienced it. Great peeps.
I'd move back in a heart beat if it weren't for the fact that the Mountain Cedar doesn't play well with my a-typical CF. I tried Austin, Houston, San Antonio and that shit blows everywhere. It is literally one of the two worse places to live if you have allergies. The other being central Oregon where what do they have? Giant cedars!
Coast or West TX maybe isn't affected. No jobs though.
TX seems ok
It's a huge state with lots of different terrains and types of people. I wouldn't discount it until you've experienced it. Great peeps.
I'd move back in a heart beat if it weren't for the fact that the Mountain Cedar doesn't play well with my a-typical CF. I tried Austin, Houston, San Antonio and that shit blows everywhere. It is literally one of the two worse places to live if you have allergies. The other being central Oregon where what do they have? Giant cedars!
Coast or West TX maybe isn't affected. No jobs though.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 9:05pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 15, 9:05pm
rd6B says
Same here. About half my friends growing up were TexMex. Nothing at all like the Mexicans in CA.
I's rather live among TX Hispanics than among CA whites (bless heart of CA inhabitants here).
Same here. About half my friends growing up were TexMex. Nothing at all like the Mexicans in CA.
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Patrick
2020 Jun 15, 9:46pm
Patrick
2020 Jun 15, 9:46pm
socal2 says
I agree. We should not give up California.
Don't abandon paradise to the Commies, race hustlers and weirdos, get involved and fight.
I agree. We should not give up California.
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joshuatrio
2020 Jun 16, 6:02am
joshuatrio
2020 Jun 16, 6:02am
Ceffer says
We left about 5 years ago when CA started mandating vaccines and eliminated the religious exemption for children. We are "selective vaxxers" in that we feel that as parents, we should be able to pick and choose what's best for our child. The minute they started eliminating our rights, was when we pulled the plug.
We also got tired of the double standards that CA seemed to want to enforce, and while I was once left, I got tired of the constant barrage of LGBTQWXYZ/Tranny bullshit and people being so fucking PC, you couldn't have an HONEST conversation. Everything was surface level as everyone was afraid to offend everyone else.
We ended up in the Atlanta area. Believe it or not, we actually really enjoy it here and have thrived in the area. Whereas in CA it was much harder to make friends beyond the surface level and it seemed like everyone was always broke. Our cost of living is great, we paid cash for our house and run several businesses out of it. We've met a lot of very successful people down here, our kids have a lot of friends and owning a gun is considered norm. Good area, yes. Would I pick it again? Maybe, maybe not.
I personally miss the ocean and living within a 5 minute drive of solid hikes/mountain peaks. I bought a boat this year for our local lake thinking that would scratch the itch and it's really done nothing but drop my bank account balance $20k. I'm now thinking of selling it. I've considered parts of Florida, but have also considered Central America as I'm 100% remote work wise. We're considering renting our place out and sailing around the Caribbean for a year, but who knows.
I love the West Coast, but I would not move back. Content where we are, but am open to other options as well.
"You finally got the liberal government you always said you wanted. They tell you if you can or can’t go to the beach or surf or travel. They tell you if you can or cannot leave your house or contact any other person. They induce shortages so you waste your time waiting in line for commodities. They pit neighbor against neighbor, children against parents, and young against the old. They sanctify ridiculous ideals and concepts in order to tyrannically dominate. They endorse and enable criminals to prey on citizens. They keep the police from doing their job, or attack the police for doing their job, or now, disband the police. They tell you what you are allowed to say or not say, or think or not think, with punishment and retaliations if you don’t toe the party line. Free speech is a memory. I doubt anybody younger than 30 even remembers what free speech was really like."
We left about 5 years ago when CA started mandating vaccines and eliminated the religious exemption for children. We are "selective vaxxers" in that we feel that as parents, we should be able to pick and choose what's best for our child. The minute they started eliminating our rights, was when we pulled the plug.
We also got tired of the double standards that CA seemed to want to enforce, and while I was once left, I got tired of the constant barrage of LGBTQWXYZ/Tranny bullshit and people being so fucking PC, you couldn't have an HONEST conversation. Everything was surface level as everyone was afraid to offend everyone else.
We ended up in the Atlanta area. Believe it or not, we actually really enjoy it here and have thrived in the area. Whereas in CA it was much harder to make friends beyond the surface level and it seemed like everyone was always broke. Our cost of living is great, we paid cash for our house and run several businesses out of it. We've met a lot of very successful people down here, our kids have a lot of friends and owning a gun is considered norm. Good area, yes. Would I pick it again? Maybe, maybe not.
I personally miss the ocean and living within a 5 minute drive of solid hikes/mountain peaks. I bought a boat this year for our local lake thinking that would scratch the itch and it's really done nothing but drop my bank account balance $20k. I'm now thinking of selling it. I've considered parts of Florida, but have also considered Central America as I'm 100% remote work wise. We're considering renting our place out and sailing around the Caribbean for a year, but who knows.
I love the West Coast, but I would not move back. Content where we are, but am open to other options as well.
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She's sick of the stifling crowds, sanctuary crap, fires, the plain, daily crazy, ever encroaching crime and the endless blaring psychosis of one progressive shitburger after another. She wants to spend a year or two seriously looking to leave and move elsewhere. Covid and permissive riots with no interventions have driven people she knows over the edge in Santa Cruz who are all very seriously on the emigration bandwagon. Some have already moved in the last couple of months with their children, mostly to Oregon. She wants a place that is more immune from these self inflicted political disasters and has enough self governance to maintain civic order.
In the coming months, as the Kommie Python digests and exacerbates the economic disaster for working people and businesses, things will just get worse. I heard about one church (probably the first of many) that has has gone bankrupt from this. The Globalists have literally fucked everybody and everything with these disasters and madness for their narrow political purposes, and the fallout has fallen on America's most productive segments while elevating the scum. Leave it to the vandals and the swedo progressive crime families at the top?
We used to laugh just a few years ago, because you could drive into Santa Cruz and see something goofy every time. Now, when we take walks, even in neighborhoods, the people seem creepy and weird, and everybody is on edge, the druggies are everywhere.
Don't know how this will pan out, but we will be shopping for locales. I will miss surfing and the ocean, but they even shut that down for a while.
Used to be you came to California to pan for gold. Now, you come to California to pan for dregs.