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What are the Positives coming out of Corona Virus


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2020 Apr 5, 6:27am   4,398 views  83 comments

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We are well versed in the negatives of Corona Virus. Are there any positives?

- As Warren Buffet so famously said, “Buy the dip, faggot”. It’s creating stock market buying opportunities.

- China is being even further exposed as a giant piece of shit. It’s forcing the globalists to rethink globalism. This mess will serve to bring back some fraction of jobs back home to the good ‘ol USA. It’s certainly forcing us to rethink the reliance on China for things like medication and surgical masks!

- I’m not spending 8-10hrs in my car commuting. I’m working from home and just about as productive as I was physically going in the office. Roll out of bed, go for a quick jog around the neighborhood, grab a coffee, and at my desk in no time.

- I’m seeing more of my immediate family. This is a positive or negative depending on how you see your family but I’m enjoying seeing my wife and kids more.

- A part of me is actually enjoying seeing life slow down a bit. We were moving so fast, so much traffic, congestion, events, etc etc etc. my calendar was always so constantly full that it was at times overwhelming.

- All the silly BS social stuff is cancelled... kids birthdays, silly holidays, etc.. you know, the stuff you are obligated to go to but go reluctantly lol. I fucking love that part LOL

- Roads are empty! I’ve rediscovered the thrill of driving. It’s amazing. I can go out for a spirited drive and not have to wait and wait and wait for the car in front of me.

I think what the pandemic is making me realize is that I may prefer the slower suburban life compared to the big city bustle at this stage of my life.

What are some unintended benefits of the pandemic that you’ve discovered?

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20   BayArea   2020 Apr 5, 11:54am  

Patrick says
Less handshaking. Never liked it anyway.


The history on this is it was a way for unknown people to mutually show each other “look, I have no weapon and I am meeting you with peaceful intentions”

I never liked it in modern society either and wish we would do away with. Who needs to shake a bacteria/virus hand these days anyway?
21   clambo   2020 Apr 5, 12:00pm  

The liberal hypocrites are not going to stop complaining and lying and doing dumb shit.

My older brother is a nurse practitioner in the NYC metro area, and he is in a high risk group.
1. Almost 70 2. Asthma 3. Overweight

I just suggested he ask for vacation or unpaid leave, and he said he would be terminated.

He is not sewing people up, so he can be away from work and people won’t die.

He actually values his cash flow more than his own health or life. I’m sorry for him almost.

He’s got plenty of money, he just wants to not be out of work for even a month.

His bosses obviously care more about foreign people and bums than about him.

My self preservation instinct is stronger, I would probably take a leave, get fired, and look for another job later.
22   BayArea   2020 Apr 5, 12:08pm  

Clambo...

If you quit your job now as a medical professional, that’s curtains on your medical career.

My wife is in the medical field, treating corona on the front lines, and coming home to her family after her shifts. It’s been very concerning for us but what choice do we have if she wants to maintain her career?

She’s being careful, taking all the precautions, and hoping for the best.
23   WookieMan   2020 Apr 5, 12:15pm  

BayArea says
Patrick says
Less handshaking. Never liked it anyway.


The history on this is it was a way for unknown people to mutually show each other “look, I have no weapon and I am meeting you with peaceful intentions”

I never liked it in modern society either and wish we would do away with. Who needs to shake a bacteria/virus hand these days anyway?

I'm not a germaphobe at all, really. Handshaking has always been fucked up for me being left handed as my right hand, even unwashed is likely cleaner than my left. The only thing I think about is that the vast majority of the population is right handed. Could this person have just jerked off? What else have they done with that hand? I have no fucking clue? If shaking a hand with a women, how hard do you go? Long list of bullshit with hand shaking.

I hope the handshake goes away. Fist bumps and elbow taps are also gay. Just don't fucking touch me in all honesty.
24   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Apr 5, 12:23pm  

Patrick says
media behave.


Jim Acosta on tv every day has been a god send.

I wonder if the morons realize how horrible they look with stupid gotcha question after gotcha question.

Fucking report. Do investigative journalism. If Trump is full of it, ask him a question that puts him on the record and then ask follow ups where he is forced to account for the bs.

Don’t ask loaded questions based on stupid premises. CNN sucks. Msm sucks.
25   Patrick   2020 Apr 5, 12:28pm  

CovfefeButDeadly says
CNN sucks. Msm sucks.


The MSM have an agenda:

- divide the public by race, sex so that they don't have time to think about the real enemy: globalization
- keep the shipments from China coming in to keep bleeding the US for profit (the Washington Post obviously has the motive to keep Chinese shit coming to the Wapo's owner: Bezos/Amazon)
- keep the illegals coming in to drive down wages for poor Americans
26   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2020 Apr 5, 1:05pm  

Wimps with good immune systems can kick sand in the face of immunosuppressed steroid juicers.
27   clambo   2020 Apr 5, 1:23pm  

For BayArea,

My brother is already getting a pension, his house is paid, he delayed social security, and he got an inheritance in 2017.

I don’t believe that he could not find work if he wanted it, but he may not have to if someone kills him.

My self preservation instinct supersedes everything else but that’s why I disagree with my brother.
28   just_passing_through   2020 Apr 5, 1:52pm  

BayArea says
My wife is in the medical field, treating corona on the front lines


She's a rock star!
29   just_passing_through   2020 Apr 5, 1:55pm  

clambo says
My self preservation instinct is stronger


Mine too. My baby sis is charge nurse in an emergency room. Some of the stories she tells me just floor me even before all of this happened. Unlike her, if some gang banger showed up all shot up with body fluids spurting out everywhere I'd just step aside and say something like, "You made some bad choices in life didn't ya?" and let him die.
30   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Apr 5, 4:13pm  

TEOTWAWKI says
SF has banned reusable grocery bags.


Justice!
31   BoomAndBustCycle   2020 Apr 5, 4:33pm  

Policy wise Trump hasn’t always been wrong, but his nepotism , narcissism, ego, and divider in chief mentality is not something that will lead to good things for this country. If the stock market doesn’t recover significantly by November and unemployment doesn’t improve you are delusional to think he gets re-elected. Only way he gets re-elected is if we get a V shaped recovery by November... and/or he postpones a free election via Marshall law, which is looking more and more likely.
32   mell   2020 Apr 5, 4:37pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
Policy wise Trump hasn’t always been wrong, but his nepotism , narcissism, ego, and divider in chief mentality is not something that will lead to good things for this country. If the stock market doesn’t recover significantly by November and unemployment doesn’t improve you are delusional to think he gets re-elected. Only way he gets re-elected is if we get a V shaped recovery by November... and/or he postpones a free election via Marshall law, which is looking more and more likely.


The US is peaking right now and Trump will likely get re-elected as we will open up soon again. No need for Marshall law at all.
33   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2020 Apr 5, 6:11pm  

ThreeBays says
mell says
The US is peaking right now


We'll see in a few weeks. It depends on how well we social distance.



Fucking idiots in California...CALIFORNIA!!! Of all places...

Went to Costco....no big deal BUT of all places for 80 year old people to be at 330 on a Sunday afternoon! And not just one.

The the local park was PACKED!!! At least it’s outdoors...but still....

And the the local chain...people old as dirt! What the living hell is wrong with these people. All these stores have designated senior hours. Honestly they are so reckless they may deserve to die.

So we will see. I think people are still openly pessimistic, but if the govt keeps this shutdown going more than a month or so, people are going to break it and the cops won’t be able to stop it.
34   Onvacation   2020 Apr 5, 6:16pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
he postpones a free election via Marshall law, which is looking more and more likely.

Paranoid much?
35   Tenpoundbass   2020 Apr 5, 6:19pm  

I bet Trump already has emails with a lot of very bad people out there, conspiring this whole massive global shutdown. With a road map to a reboot of the New World Order with China taking a lead central role. I bet Fauci's name comes up often. There's an invisible Enemy, Trump likes saying that every time before he calls Fauci up to answer a question.

It's probably going to take another investigation into Trump to beat it out of the Conspirators on Live Cable news. As they willingly brag about their crimes in an effort to take out Trump. And of course they didn't break any laws, because their intentions were to take out Trump, and Media and Congress fully approves.
36   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 5, 6:28pm  

Tim Aurora says
Actually it has exposed Trump who did not listen to his intelligence and for firing CDC pandemic division.


#FakeNews Debunked
The fact is that Trump was looking at Coronavirus during Nancy's Impeachment Hearings.

The Dem House did not take up any business related to the Coronavirus until the end of the first week of February, long after Trump formed the Coronavirus Task Force, and about three weeks since the first US case in Washington State.

37   mell   2020 Apr 5, 6:33pm  

ThreeBays says
mell says
The US is peaking right now


We'll see in a few weeks. It depends on how well we social distance.



No need to wait a few days, may have peaked today. If not next few days. 25k vs 34k new cases.


Tim Aurora says
Actually it has exposed Trump who did not listen to his intelligence and for firing CDC pandemic division.
He now has blood on his hand. MSM was complaining about COVID since February and Trump was listening to FOX who thought it was a HOAX.


Ridiculous. Every year approx. 50k due of the flu in the US alone. If we sheltered in place everybody we could save 90% of those. So is whoever is in charge and not shutting down responsible for the people dying each flu season? This is becoming absurd to blame the prez for a pandemic despite having some of the stricter lockdown rules.
38   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 5, 8:30pm  

ThreeBays says
mell says
The US is peaking right now


We'll see in a few weeks. It depends on how well we social distance.



Right, the famous Wuhan lockdown. The Chinese were on it like White on Rice. If you believe their numbers, I have a bridge to sell cheap.
39   BoomAndBustCycle   2020 Apr 5, 9:38pm  

Onvacation says
Paranoid much?


Paranoid?! No way... if this pandemic occurred in sept or October I would be damn accurate! You really think people would go to the voting booths in large numbers if Election Day were tomorrow?
40   mell   2020 Apr 5, 10:33pm  

ThreeBays says
mell says
No need to wait a few days, may have peaked today. If not next few days. 25k vs 34k new cases.


Would be good, though confirmed cases could just be affected by ebbs and flows in the testing process.


True, that's why I also try to monitor the backlog. Apparently it has shrunk to a size that would make crazy surges unlikely. We may need a week to solidify this assumption, but the market is liking the first good news.
41   WookieMan   2020 Apr 5, 10:47pm  

ThreeBays says
mell says
The US is peaking right now


We'll see in a few weeks. It depends on how well we social distance.


This is the problem with anyone trying to predict this. I swear that people forget that people die from this. It's statistically impossible, for the people it's killing, for the line drawn to EVER actually happen. As they die, the probability is lowered with each death. Less possible people to infect and kill. This can't go sideways for a long period of time as the amount of people it can kill are gone. They aren't zombies.

This isn't even basic math. It's common sense. If you're a dumbass that is old and weak that want's to go out, consider it a death wish. You'll be helping to flatten the curve once you're dead...
42   marcus   2020 Apr 5, 11:25pm  

:
ThreeBays says
Always going with your gut instead of math, and getting it wrong.


The positive would have been if they learned. They won't. No matter what.

NoCoupForYou says
If you believe their numbers, I have a bridge to sell cheap.


I don't. But then again who knows ? Maybe they are applying some of their traditional chinese medicine (herbal or whatever) in conjuction with wearing masks.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7098036/
43   WookieMan   2020 Apr 6, 9:20am  

ThreeBays says
Yes the graph couldn't go on forever, but we're not even close to running out of people

Actually yes, we will run out of people that could be easily killed by this sooner than later. The one statistic that has been the most consistent is elderly people with underlying conditions. Sure it will infect more people, but people that CAN die from it will eventually run out. That's most likely what is happening across the world as we speak. Confirmed cases aren't the problem as the whole world isn't getting tested and it's highly likely a majority of the population has been exposed to some level of CV-19. It's the deaths that are a problem.

This most certainly will become a common virus that most people won't even need a vaccine for. I've never gotten the flu vaccine in my life and have never tested positive for it even if I felt shitty enough to go to the doctor. I get not overwhelming the hospitals, that makes sense. But the politicization of this is nauseating.

You know what the next thing will be, right? Trump didn't do enough for the mental health sector when it comes out that 10's of thousands of people above the average killed themselves because of lost jobs and businesses. It's almost like there's a script for this...
44   WookieMan   2020 Apr 6, 9:24am  

ThreeBays says
Always going with your gut instead of math, and getting it wrong.

What math....??? Are you being sarcastic? We have estimates from "experts" that range from 20k to 2M death in the US, not the world.... How in the flying fuck are they experts or that is math? Clearly the point flew over the head.

Sick of people WANTING this to be a disaster for political reasons. Fucking fall off a cliff already. Jesus.
45   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2020 Apr 6, 10:11am  

Government busy now saving lives which is good.
Trump helping poor people which shows Republican Party is for every American.
Democrats tried to stop stimulus to fuck America over, shows they are owned by globohomo masters.
Families spending more time together.
Stupid businesses are out.
Fake news no one gives a fuck about
46   rocketjoe79   2020 Apr 6, 10:17am  

clambo says
The liberal hypocrites are not going to stop complaining and lying and doing dumb shit.

My older brother is a nurse practitioner in the NYC metro area, and he is in a high risk group.
1. Almost 70 2. Asthma 3. Overweight

I just suggested he ask for vacation or unpaid leave, and he said he would be terminated.

He is not sewing people up, so he can be away from work and people won’t die.

He actually values his cash flow more than his own health or life. I’m sorry for him almost.

He’s got plenty of money, he just wants to not be out of work for even a month.

His bosses obviously care more about foreign people and bums than about him.

My self preservation instinct is stronger, I would probably take a leave, get fired, and look for another job later.


I can't believe he would be terminated - that's likely his own view of what "might" happen - because he's afraid to ask for leave. For example, Home Depot is taking care of all their at-risk people, paying for all medical co-pays and giving older part-timers 40 hours paid and full-timers 80 hours. paid.

This guy could probably get a MUCH better job working for a nicer company. Sounds like he's allowing himself to be bullied. Fear of change.
47   Onvacation   2020 Apr 6, 10:27am  

BoomAndBustCycle says
Paranoid?! No way... if this pandemic occurred in sept or October I would be damn accurate! You really think people would go to the voting booths in large numbers if Election Day were tomorrow?

Yep. And many of them would be wearing masks and gloves.
48   WookieMan   2020 Apr 6, 11:36am  

ThreeBays says
WookieMan says
What math....??? Are you being sarcastic? We have estimates from "experts" that range from 20k to 2M death in the US, not the world.... How in the flying fuck are they experts or that is math? Clearly the point flew over the head.


80k to 2M in US. Those are using exactly the same math, only different suppression. That's a factor in the math.
What's so difficult to understand?

It has nothing to do with suppression. That's all a guess with a new virus. We could still end up with 2M dead this year with current precautions. The best math we have on this is less than 30 days old, basically it's pretty shitty and guesswork. Not one person on this planet is an expert on this virus and the consequences. You're more than welcome to put blind faith into bullshit. I won't stop you. And no, I'm not saying this doesn't exist or kill people.

Let's all be honest. The largest US city is potentially starting to plateau. I know at the end of this you'll be able to grab some model and tell us all you were right. That's because everyone is throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks and you're buying all of it until you can be right. That's where we are at right now and you call it math. It's not math. Math may be involved, but be honest with yourself and understand that most of the "math" is complete bullshit guesswork. The fucking doctors and scientist admit as much...
49   clambo   2020 Apr 6, 11:40am  

Rocketjoe79 above is correct.
My brother is in the group who fears change and fears any interruption of income, although he is financially very secure.
He also likely fears his wife, so would I if she had my balls in a vice.
I can understand choosing money over fun, but not over my safety.
50   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 6, 12:27pm  

WookieMan says
You know what the next thing will be, right? Trump didn't do enough for the mental health sector when it comes out that 10's of thousands of people above the average killed themselves because of lost jobs and businesses. It's almost like there's a script for this...


YUP. You're correct to mention the Demmedia's handwaving going on about the mental health of unemployed/shut-in people. As soon as the crisis is over, it'll be Trumps fault for not spending billions on voluntary, non-forcible useless mental health programs to keep the kind of Social Justice Workers and New-age Book Writing Psychologists employed.

The kind of programs that will give pink-haired students exemptions from taking the first semester back's tests, and just passing them, or it's oppression of those damaged by the Coronavirus.

"As a left handed Lesbian M2F Trans, the Quarantine was exceptionally hard on me. I wish you privileged White Males would get that. I have to be auto passed in all my classes, especially Male Remedial Algebra which the Oppressive Old Stale White Male college makes me take the first 3 times I didn't pass it."

Just like when Cuomo and Newsome never named the Virus once in their "State of the State Speches" back in February, when Pelosi and Levitt and DeBlasio, along with he Media, was more upset about nomenclature and "Xenophobia" against Asians, encouraging people to Gather in Large Groups for Chinatown Festivities.
51   Ceffer   2020 Apr 6, 12:31pm  

The Sacred Panic Pandemic has represented a terrible loss of social programming and Progressive indoctrination of students. It's a terrible thing when students wind up being smarter because they didn't attend school.
52   WookieMan   2020 Apr 6, 12:41pm  

NoCoupForYou says
WookieMan says
You know what the next thing will be, right? Trump didn't do enough for the mental health sector when it comes out that 10's of thousands of people above the average killed themselves because of lost jobs and businesses. It's almost like there's a script for this...


YUP. You're correct to mention the Demmedia's handwaving going on about the mental health of unemployed/shut-in people.

Jumped the gun. Boris is in the ICU now. Maybe in 2 weeks I'll be right. Who the hell knows where the storyline goes now....
53   WookieMan   2020 Apr 6, 1:07pm  

ThreeBays says
There's a difference between saying models are just guesswork, and concluding they have no value.

What science is there behind a new virus where China has absolutely bull shitted their data? We're going off Europe, that has completely different demographics, that is two weeks ahead of NYC. This is all guesswork. You can apply math to it, but that still doesn't mean shit. I'm not saying there aren't virus experts out there, but they are experts on EXISTING virus'.

This could completely fizzle out in 2 weeks. It could roar back and kill 5M Americans. No one has a clue. The defense of people with no clue is staggering. We're generally in the period of the unknown, it's okay to admit that. We've likely overacted. I don't care about the politics. Just truth. We've haven't gotten that. Giving scientist and doctors carte blanche in stating fact and fiction in a brand new virus is pure stupidity. Question everything right now.
54   Bd6r   2020 Apr 6, 1:16pm  

I might be wrong, but R0 has dropped to about 1.5 a few days ago.
We also need to distinguish those who die with Coronavirus will inflate the CFR as opposed to those that died from Coronavirus, which will deflate the CFR.
This: https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_17_marzo-v2.pdf
is in Italian but what they say is that out of 300 dead with corona, only 3 did not have major health issues prior to catching corona (Tabella 1)
55   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 6, 1:19pm  

* Confused Fake News out of step with each other on the Narrative Push.

56   Ceffer   2020 Apr 6, 1:21pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Confused Fake News out of step with each other on the Narrative Push.


Fake News straining at stools and sharting itself.
57   WookieMan   2020 Apr 6, 1:25pm  

rd6B says
I might be wrong, but R0 has dropped to about 1.5 a few days ago.
We also need to distinguish those who die with Coronavirus will inflate the CFR as opposed to those that died from Coronavirus, which will deflate the CFR.
This: https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_17_marzo-v2.pdf
is in Italian but what they say is that out of 300 dead with corona, only 3 did not have major health issues prior to catching corona (Tabella 1)

Bingo. Math....
58   Bd6r   2020 Apr 6, 1:44pm  

If people are stuck on a cruise ship (worst case scenario) R0 is ca 2.3 - this is obviously too high of an estimate for real situations. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32097725

I can not find the graph I saw about 2 days ago - Sweden has R0 of 1.5 which is constant, and in US in nearly all states it was down to ca 1.5-1.7 after quarantines. I'll post it if/when I track it down.
59   Onvacation   2020 Apr 6, 3:24pm  

ThreeBays says
NoCoupForYou says
* Confused Fake News out of step with each other on the Narrative Push.



One is Mar 6 and the other March 30. The fake news is whoever made this side-by-side.

Or maybe Trump repeated Cuomo's statement from early March?

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