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Someone asked above.

The answer is Scottsdale over SD, no question

By the way, thanks for sharing your story.

My wife and I have tossed around the idea of leaving Silicon Valley for quite a while.

Unless you got into housing at the right time, why compete so hard for so little?

everything says

Retirement communities are expanding is my guess.

Rent before buying in a 55 and over place - a cautionary warning, I did not buy in one of them and glad I didn't.

Ceffer says

Some people just move because they are chronically agitated and annoyed where they already live and think that the 'adventure' of moving will change things, until they become agitated and annoyed in their new environment.

Also referred to as a "geographic" in 12 step programs. Doesn't work for most of those that try it since the underlying problems travel with them.

NuttBoxer says

but the 3 day trip to visit family in California was a deal breaker

That would seem to be an incentive in a lot of cases - actually a 4-5 hour plane trip removed is far better and you just can't put a price on a 12 hour plus plane trip, different day and time zone..

You can always return to SD to vote there. Even citizens of Mexico can vote in California.

willywonka says

You can always return to SD to vote there. Even citizens of Mexico can vote in California.

Or put voting in your Will. Dems like to "mine" the posthumous vote.

BayArea says

My wife and I have tossed around the idea of leaving Silicon Valley for quite a while.

Is the Bay Area your home town area? (ie, where you grew up?)

B.A.C.A.H. says

BayArea says

My wife and I have tossed around the idea of leaving Silicon Valley for quite a while.

Is the Bay Area your home town area? (ie, where you grew up?)

Yes, grew up in the East Bay

1 hour of Classic San Fran Freako rant

www.youtube.com/embed/B3BpkRa2Ubg

You got to do what makes financial sense for you. I feel like CA has gone from a family friendly place, to just a place everyone trashes. bums, needles, mentally ill parades (lgbt, trannies, and other horseshit), illegals, and problems such shortage of housing and other basic needs which probably stems from insane inflow of illegals that the system fails to keep up with.

I can't fault anyone for leaving CA, like I can't fault anyone for wanting to get the fuck out of Detroit.

California still has really incredible natural beauty in spite of everything.

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Patrick says

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Except, you still won't be able to escape "Something", even if you hide in the bathroom with the door shut.

www.youtube.com/embed/_G_cjOipwW8

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo. Ahora, nosotros tenemos los pollos luchar. Debito cuarenta dolares en "La Machina", el grande le aca.

BayArea says

Yes, grew up in the East Bay

Yep. This is sad. I know more homies who left than stayed. Many more.

Patrick says

after all the liberals have died out from feminism

Won't even be missed. Privileged grad-school graduates with H-1's backfilling the void with their own kids and value systems. We're becoming an extension of Shanghai and Bombay, with a population of illegals for them to exploit.

MisterLearnToCode says

Patrick says

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Except, you still won't be able to escape "Something", even if you hide in the bathroom with the door shut.

www.youtube.com/embed/_G_cjOipwW8

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo. Ahora, nosotros tenemos los pollos luchar. Debito cuarenta dolares en "La Machina", el grande le aca.

Damn, she's cute.

Mostly I don't mind the Mexicans as people. Good families, hard workers. I just want them to come here legally and in limited numbers, or not at all. And once here legally, they should strive to become American like previous waves of immigrants did.

Everything comes and goes. Left is obsessed with promoting fag shit and feminism.

4-8 years that fetish will pass. CA will be conservative again, it will not survive otherwise. And history teaches us that liberalism leads to shit, followed by conservatism.

Patrick says

California still has really incredible natural beauty in spite of everything.

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

MisterLearnToCode says

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo.

That has been my experience trying to camp anywhere near Austin or San Antonio. Day and Night. Every. Damn. Time.

Patrick says

Damn, she's cute.

Mostly I don't mind the Mexicans as people. Good families, hard workers. I just want them to come here legally and in limited numbers, or not at all. And once here legally, they should strive to become American like previous waves of immigrants did.

Agreed, especially on the first count. My post was facetious. It's the Left Wing crowd that is the danger.

Patrick says

Mostly I don't mind the Mexicans as people. Good families, hard workers

Heard the same lines in Conyersa few years back. Some of those "good ole boys" like on the Dukes of Hazard talking about their black co-workers.

They were a bit more specific though...

Wouldn't want one to marry into the family

Wouldn't marry one themselves

Wouldn't want to break bread with them or hang out with them after work

But other than that they were okay with "them", hell they might even share the lunch room with "them peoples".

just_dregalicious says

MisterLearnToCode says

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo.

That has been my experience trying to camp anywhere near Austin or San Antonio. Day and Night. Every. Damn. Time.

My last few camping trips in CA have included neighbors having all night fiestas.

BayArea says

My last few camping trips in CA have included neighbors having all night fiestas.

I’ve experienced that as well, but only at the State Parks campgrounds. Go to a private campground or KOA and you will have a much better experience. I know the State locked up the best locations, but there are some really nice ones in private hands!
Best experience hands down was Ventana in Big Sur. Shady grounds with large spaces plenty of room, nice bathrooms and showers, surrounded by massive redwoods, and you can have campfires. Very relaxing, and only 3 miles from Pfieffer Beach with the purple sand!

BayArea says

just_dregalicious says

MisterLearnToCode says

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo.

That has been my experience trying to camp anywhere near Austin or San Antonio. Day and Night. Every. Damn. Time.

My last few camping trips in CA have included neighbors having all night fiestas.

Don't forget the diapers, trash, and graffiti. Anything that is free or cheep, or near city gets trashed by them.

HonkpilledMaster says

it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo.

That's why there is a siesta. The night is there to party. You just need your afternoon nap. Same in Spain.

Patrick says

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Really? How many kids you have? It will be Mexican, and that's that.

Heraclitusstudent says

Patrick says

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Really? How many kids you have? It will be Mexican, and that's that.

Mexicans will def be more conservative than leftoids and reign back in the wildebeest feminazi womyn currently damaging society. In fact most other cultures are more conservative than the current white white west under the leftoid kybosh of tranny-feminazy-lgbtqq+-1234xyz freakism.

Celebrated the 4th with my family and parents who are in town. Cooked and ate outside with high around 105, sitting under a fan. Yes, in Phoenix an outside fan and covered porch are standard. Was a bit warm, but not too bad. I guess that's what they mean by dry heat. Also set off some fireworks which are legal in Arizona. They only allow fountains, but when the fountain is the size of your head, it packs a punch. Brought back memories of when we used to light m80's in Michigan. Good times!

So after the rent going up two years in a row a total of $270, we're leaving, again, this time for Yuma. Moving into the the biggest house we've ever rented, pool, nice yard, and yes, still renting. For anyone interested the rent will remain under 25% of my net income. We've done the day drive to Yuma, it's not bad at all, so unlike the Phoenix move, will be back more frequently, especially over the summer to get out to the beach and away from the heat. Also, with the school voucher's, we may be able to send our daughter to Catholic school for free.

Considered Florida as I have family there, but decided we may have missed our chance, at least until our daughter finishes high school. Although by that time, good chance we will take off for the South Pacific, the only perfect place on earth.

Move is almost here after a very strange journey through Yuma RE. We had three deposits returned because people never sent us the lease, and we kept finding better deals. Our final property is a 4bd 2.5bth, 2,300sqft, with good sized yard with grass, huge pool, for only $230 more than what we paid for a 2/2 apt in East San Diego. And it's at least two miles from any field, very important for protecting ourselves from pesticide drift, as Yuma is a very agricultural community.

NuttBoxer says

And it's at least two miles from any field, very important for protecting ourselves from pesticide drift, as Yuma is a very agricultural community.

Good luck with that. If you have neighbors they're probably spraying their lawns with all sorts of chemicals. Or is it generally desert landscaping with no grass? I haven't been to Yuma since I was a kid and just drove through. Realtor.com it looks like a mix of grass and desert.

Here in IL everyone treats their lawn with chemicals. I don't, but most do. My lawn looks just as good so I say fuck it. We have a top notch backyard setup since it's from 1963 with gardening, large trees, and tons of plants. I'm going to miss it. Starting the construction loan process today. Fingers crossed. Construction prices are still rough, but not as bad.

Have fun at the new place. I hate moving, but you're probably more experienced with it. Do you have to maintain the pool? Or have you done it? A lot of systems are automated so you don't have to do much or maybe your landlord pays a pool person to take care of it. If it's on you to manage and you haven't done it, either hire someone or research. It can be a pain in the ass if it gets out of hand or you don't know the system. My 2¢. Sun and high temps can make the water go south quick if something messes up.

The Nuttboxer 'Fled California Oscillation' has achieved another eccentric orbit.

I would leave if I were any of you or move to a nice rural pocket in state. And I mean rural. The outflow even if it's not rapid is going decimate use and income taxes. We all know government increases the budget even if they shouldn't. So they raise more taxes and fees which hit lower and middle class people hardest. More people being priced into homelessness.

When you get people making ten's of millions a year leaving it adds up quickly. Then factor in your doctors, nurses, teacher, etc, basically in demand type jobs, you could find a job anywhere in the country for a similar pay at a lower cost of living.

Wife and I just completed a multiweek western states road trip.

I’m over 50, wife is several years younger. While we are intending to move out of state when I retire, this trip prompted a few things. First if we were ever to have custody of our godchild, we nearly immediately would move, most likely to Utah. Wife liked Montana and Idaho better, but I can’t work at manual labor and I don’t think I can handle the winters. Second, we visited some truly rural family friends. Like miles and miles of roads to get to the dirt roads where it’s more miles to their residence. Wife for the first time gained real understanding of that lifestyle. Third, as I remember from childhood vacations, basically everyone is nice…really nice. It’s rather incredible the emotional and physical shields you develop living in a big city. One this trip I turned from a very introverted person into a borderline extrovert. Genuinely interested in what others say, I stopped a couple times for people broken down to make sure they had assistance on the way. I don’t initiate conversations in my normal life, but did multiple times on this trip if nothing more than to compliment someone’s business or residence. Fuck California. I’d move tommorow if I could.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

Wife for the first time gained real understanding of that lifestyle. Third, as I remember from childhood vacations, basically everyone is nice…really nice. It’s rather incredible the emotional and physical shields you develop living in a big city. One this trip I turned from a very introverted person into a borderline extrovert. Genuinely interested in what others say, I stopped a couple times for people broken down to make sure they had assistance on the way. I don’t initiate conversations in my normal life, but did multiple times on this trip if nothing more than to compliment someone’s business or residence. Fuck California. I’d move tommorow if I could.

I've always said that God lives in the country, not the city.

Jesus did spend a fair amount of time in the desert ;)