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E-man says

you sound a little self-centered

Can't say I care much for this comment.

Go around saying "people who don't have kids just don't understand" all you want. That's smug enough but, given what science tells us about hormonal effects of parenting, it's forgivable.

So, for example, after I hear, for the umpteenth time, that I must cover for a co-worker who has a parental conflict, I forgive them, even as I must listen to "People without kids just don't understand" in meetings.

But when you tell someone without kids that they're self-centered, you blow right through the border crossing into DoucheLand.

E-man says

If you can afford to help dad out or even your sister, you should consider it.

Ppl don't change, once they hit their 40s. Thus, getting a hypnotherapist isn't going to work, as neither of them have listened to me, for much of the past three decades. They refuse to do any counseling.

E-man says

Her name is Grettell Valdez.

Actually, I didn't know that. I had simply saved a photo, which was a doppelganger of that Nova Scotian gal.

HydroCabron says

But when you tell someone without kids that they're self-centered, you blow right through the border crossing into DoucheLand.

It's normal; these folks have elevated Oxytocin (as oppose to Oxycontin), levels which gives 'em a sense of bonding and belonging. The fact that other ppl don't need that, since we're able to function independently, is surprising to them.

Rin says

It's normal; these folks have elevated Oxytocin (as oppose to Oxycontin), levels which gives 'em a sense of bonding and belonging.

If only Rush Limbaugh got addicted to Oxytocin instead of Oxycontin maybe he wouldn't be such an asshole.

Dan8267 says

If only Rush Limbaugh got addicted to Oxytocin instead of Oxycontin maybe he wouldn't be such an asshole.

Marijuana is the best drug for a high strung person. I only wish that my sister was addicted to it, instead of alcohol.

Rin says

HydroCabron says

But when you tell someone without kids that they're self-centered, you blow right through the border crossing into DoucheLand.

It's normal; these folks have elevated Oxytocin (as oppose to Oxycontin), levels which gives 'em a sense of bonding and belonging. The fact that other ppl don't need that, since we're able to function independently, is surprising.

Rin,

The self-centered comment was regarding to the post about your dad and maybe your sister. HydroCabron took things out of context like some other posters on this site. I People judge you by what you say since most of us are strangers on Patnet.

As you can see, I didn't accuse you of lying about your avatar. You always have to give people the benefit of the doubts. As you explained above, both your dad and your sister have ignored your advice for the last three decades. Thus, it got to the point where you don't give a damn about them anymore, which is understandable.

Now going back to being a dad, I didn't know what I didn't know until I became a dad. That's how special it feels. Like you, I'm fortunate enough to be in a position where I control my own time. I get to spend as much time with my daughter as I want to. You get to go bang hoes at your own discretion. Isn't that what financial freedom is all about? You can tell anyone, like your boss or supervisor, who wants you to do something to go eff themselves. :0)

http://www.mymoneyblog.com/f-you-money-gambler-movie.html

Boo yeah. Welcome to the world of f-you money.

"A child's future is worth every sacrifice."
Signed "Melife".

I guess they mean "don't worry about paying 15K/yr for basic medical coverage".

E-man says

You get to go bang hoes at your own discretion. Isn't that what financial freedom is all about? You can tell anyone, like your boss or supervisor, who wants you to do something to go eff themselves. :0)

http://www.mymoneyblog.com/f-you-money-gambler-movie.html

Boo yeah. Welcome to the world of f-you money.

Not yet, they need to first buy out my equity stake, which is end of this year, hopefully. And then, yes, I'm in full f' you money. But it's not so much about the hoes, it's more about managing my time/resources.

When I'm done with this stint, after a long vacation, I'll be retaking the MCAT and applying for medical school. The reason for that is that I want to be an independent researcher, and one who's able to finance his own efforts.

For me, a so-called romantic relationship has no place in the busy lifestyle of a Renaissance man who does research, writes screenplays, practices martial arts, & other hobbies, while periodically, seeing hoes. Relationships for me are both a time and a personal space sink. This way, if I'm in Sydney, and I'm working hard on solving some complex problem, I'll take a break, go to a 5 star brothel, and be reset to get back to problem solving again. I don't have to give her a tour of Sydney, just to get some servicing.

awsome video eman

CIC says:"Being a parent is the absolutely toughest job in the world."

Bullshit!
Being a child of Democratic or Republican voters is the WORST.
.......

I so enjoy some parents wanting to be martyrs because they have to take responsibility for their decisions to breed like rabbits.
What kind of future has man left to his children & their children?
435 nuclear power plants & their waste,environmental degradation from industrial civilization,& on & on.
But your children are SPECIAL!

HEY YOU says

I so enjoy some parents wanting to be martyrs because they have to take responsibility for their decisions to breed like rabbits.

You're welcome, glad you enjoy it!

@Rin have you seen the 1971 film "Carnal Knowledge?" Aside from having Jack Nicholson in it, it's a poignant review of what happens to both The Romantic who places all his hopes on a woman who is supposed to complete him and The Sensualist (Jack) who is a womanizer of the first order who sees the act of love as merely an act to be enjoyed and discarded.

A dad is nothing more than a sanctimonious motherfucker suffering from genetic narcissism.

Call it Crazy says

Being a parent is the absolutely toughest job in the world. A 80 hour work week is a walk in the park in comparison. Those who aren't parents will never understand the total sacrifice and unselfish nature that goes into trying to provide for your kids.

That explains rightwing compassion for the single parent. I mean, shit, even a crackhead can be a parent, and since it is the hardest job in the world, you conservatives should gladly open your wallets and help the welfare people out, right?

The way I see it is that anyone with functioning genitalia can be a parent. Now, you may mean being a "good parent", but in that respect I see most biological parents fall far short of being "good", since most are self-serving pricks who justify their selfishness at least in part because they have "a family" to care for. They look out for themselves and their kin, and not much more, in the bets of cases. In the worst, they are absentee or devoid of any real responsibility.

CL says

They look out for themselves and their kin, and not much more, in the bets of cases. In the worst, they are absentee or devoid of any real responsibility.

Heck - it would be a major step forward if the majority simply took responsibility for their own family.

Instead we have a skyrocketing levels of single parents in America (despite abortion and birth control being widely available) and we we wonder why we are seeing an increase in income inequality.

Call it Crazy says

Awesome video!!! That's a great one!!

Being a parent is the absolutely toughest job in the world. A 80 hour work week is a walk in the park in comparison. Those who aren't parents will never understand the total sacrifice and unselfish nature that goes into trying to provide for your kids.

That's why young are liberals who quickly turn into conservatives once they become parents. Wisdom comes with age and experience.

FortWayne says

That's why young are liberals who quickly turn into conservatives once they become parents. Wisdom comes with age and experience.

Age does not lead to wisdom. There are plenty of old fools. It does lead to a condition where people are willing to cash out and fuck over society. This is a good reason to limit the voting age. If you don't have to live with the policies enacted today for 20 years, you shouldn't have a say in them.

If the old were so wise, they would be leading the advancement of humanity, rather than hindering it. Yet in every issue, they are consistently on the wrong side of history, from slavery to segregation to interracial marriage to same-sex marriages.

It sure would be nice if the elderly were truly wise and, having learned from history, were the ones at the forefront of advancing humanity and correcting the mistakes of the past. Unfortunately, history does not bear this out. The old are the most likely to cling to the mistakes of the past and prefer repeating them. The old are dominated by habit, not wisdom.

HydroCabron says

So, for example, after I hear, for the umpteenth time, that I must cover for a co-worker who has a parental conflict, I forgive them, even as I must listen to "People without kids just don't understand" in meetings.

But when you tell someone without kids that they're self-centered, you blow right through the border crossing into DoucheLand.

They are most certainly not self-centered, because they sacrifice time and money to raise the future workers who will be paying your (and their) SS benefits while you are spending your time and money on hoes in Montreal. So shut up and cover for them - it's the least you can do.

Your rant would be perfectly OK before SS was introduced, but not anymore. 8-P

sbh says

Kid crazy people will actually tell you that no one can be complete without kids. Barf. Then, just to reply with an equivalent platitude, you tell them that having kids is a mere vanity....and they get a case of the vapors and run screaming from the room.

I have a kid, and having kids is a personal choice. People should be paid not to have kids, or more than one of them.

FortWayne says

That's why young are liberals who quickly turn into conservatives once they become parents. Wisdom comes with age and experience.

Nonsense. Mark Twain became more left as he aged, as did many other great men. Whereas most dumb neocons were Revolutionary Jacobin Trotskyites as kids, only to become old violence loving Jacobin Neocons in their old age.

socal2 says

Heck - it would be a major step forward if the majority simply took responsibility for their own family.

It would be even better if assholes on Facebook and on TV minded their own goddamn business about other people's parenting. If the kid don't have bruises, shut the fuck up. (Not directed at you personally)

Why does CIC always sound like he's using the speech jammer app?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/BZtrfaNpUQo

FortWayne says

That's why young are liberals who quickly turn into conservatives once they become parents. Wisdom comes with age and experience.

I can't think of anyone I grew up with who flip-flopped like that.

I mean straight from LIBERAL HIPPY to Teahadist.

Not a one.

Sure I have relatives who THINK they were somewhat hippy when young but they weren't. Smoking some weed and riding a motorcycle didn't make them hippies, it just colors their memories. It's hilarious when one of them talks like this, I remind him how his favorite book series back then was THE SURVIVALIST and how he had a gas mask and MREs and plenty of guns and ammo for the coming nuclear winter.....

The lot of them couldn't have approved of gay marriage or race-mixing, back in those days. These days they seem OK with it, mostly.

Reconcile these to thoughts for me, CIC.

Call it Crazy says

Are you that fucking stupid?? Do you really think people "try" to be a BAD parent??

Call it Crazy says

Being a parent is the absolutely toughest job in the world. A 80 hour work week is a walk in the park in comparison.

If it is so fucking hard to be a parent, then wouldn't simply not trying be failure? And wouldn't not trying hard enough be failure as well?

If it's hard, it's easy to fail. That's the definition of hard, isn't it?

Most parenting in the world is failure, particularly on the effort side. They can engage in self-congratulatory drivel, but being a parent only requires that you impregnate someone or are yourself impregnated. And if that's hard, then any creature with offspring throughout history has worked just as hard.

Call it Crazy says

My first question to you, what is YOUR definition of being a parent and the responsibilities of a parent? Then, we can go from there..

I already defined it. M-W does too:

: a person who is a father or mother : a person who has a child

: an animal or plant that produces a young animal or plant

: something out of which another thing has developed

Now any other value or quality you want to imbue a parent with is your own projection. Simply doing the above is not difficult. By your own observation, you can see negligent parents, verbally abusive parents, physically abusive parents, drug-addled negligent parents, and so on. Are they not parents? And how hard are they working at this task?

So, can you really say that it is harder to be a parent than any 80hr/week job? That is simply factually incorrect.

Parenting is so rewarding, the parents say. If you've ever done say, concrete labor as I have, I'd rather raise a child any day than swing a sledge for 80/hrs a week. That is really difficult work, and barely rewarding.

Call it Crazy says

To be a GOOD parent is tougher than an 80hr/week job.

What percent of biological parents do you deem "good" then?

CL says

Most parenting in the world is failure, particularly on the effort side. They can engage in self-congratulatory drivel, but being a parent only requires that you impregnate someone or are yourself impregnated.

I think you are confusing that with single parenthood.

A dude impregnating a girl and not marrying the mother or sticking around to raise the kids is not a "parent".

Well meaning liberal policies by the State to support the children of single parents has only exacerbated the problem as can be clearly seen by the massive explosion in the growth of single parent families.........which is pretty much a guarantee to a life of poverty and government dependency.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/09/the-mysterious-and-alarming-rise-of-single-parenthood-in-america/279203/

Shitty people often have shitty kids, so i can see why certain people claim parenting to be so hard.

socal2 says

I think you are confusing that with single parenthood

Single parenthood is parenting. The root is right there! You can't exclude it because you don't like it, because a single parent is still a parent. It proves my point even better.

Dan8267 says

It does lead to a condition where people are willing to cash out and fuck over society. This is a good reason to limit the voting age. If you don't have to live with the policies enacted today for 20 years, you shouldn't have a say in them.

Great - can we extend that thinking to people living on government assistance and pay little taxes? No skin in the game - right?

Anyway, it's hilarious that you think the people that suffered through the Great Depression, fought in WWII, sent a man to the moon and built the infrastructure and wealth of this country shouldn't be allowed to vote because fucking whiny Millennials living in their parent's house think they are so smart cause they got Google.

The young and stupid of this generation couldn't fix a toaster or turn on a lawn mower, but they are down with gay marriage! Wisdom!

Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Newton, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln............got nothing in terms of wisdom compared to the 30's hipster working at a coffee shop watching podcasts of Comedy Central.

socal2 says

Great - can we extend that thinking to people living on government assistance and pay little taxes? No skin in the game - right?

Anyway, it's hilarious that you think the people that suffered through the Great Depression, fought in WWII, sent a man to the moon and built the infrastructure and wealth of this country shouldn't be allowed to vote because fucking whiny Millennials living in their parent's house think they are so smart cause they got Google.

The young and stupid of this generation couldn't fix a toaster or turn on a lawn mower, but they are down with gay marriage! Wisdom!

Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Newton, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln............got nothing in terms of wisdom compared to the 30's hipster working at a coffee shop watching podcasts of Comedy Central.

Well said.

CL says

ingle parenthood is parenting. The root is right there! You can't exclude it because you don't like it, because a single parent is still a parent. It proves my point even better.

I sure as shit can exclude an ABSENT parent from "parenthood". That was my point. Single parenthood is the genesis of most of our social, crime and poverty problems. Even with government assistance, it is very difficult for one parent to raise a family without major dysfunction down the road.

A single mother (or father) has to work twice as hard and loves their kids just the same, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are being a "great parent" (in terms of results) if they are absent most of the time working and shipping their kids off to daycare or school most of the day.

Dan8267 says

Age does not lead to wisdom. There are plenty of old fools. It does lead to a condition where people are willing to cash out and fuck over society. This is a good reason to limit the voting age. If you don't have to live with the policies enacted today for 20 years, you shouldn't have a say in them.

Interesting how liberals like to pretend they are all about rights, but quickly are willing to take them away.
Liberals are their attitude of a minor...Bobby got an ice cream so I should get one too.

Just remember Dan, before you go throwing old folks under the bus. One day you'll be old, and young people will treat you the same way that you treated others when they were old. If that realization never comes to fruition, no god or government will save you from the misery of old age.

FortWayne says

Interesting how liberals like to pretend they are all about rights, but quickly are willing to take them away.

Ah, but voting isn't a right in our country. Perhaps it should be, but it isn't. A right, by definition, cannot be taken away. If voting were a right, felons could vote. In our society, voting is a privilege. Since we are attaching conditions on that privilege, we might as well attached the condition that you only get to vote for policies that you will live with.

And since one of the conditions in our current system is that the mentally ill don't get to vote, we should enforce that condition universally. No religious exemptions. If you believe in a god, then you are delusional, and by definition, delusion is a form of mental illness. If someone has such a poor grasp on reality, that they think the universe was created by a sky daddy, that person is way too delusional to have the privilege of voting.

That's the face CIC makes when he's having quality time with the family dog.

Dan8267 says

If you believe in a god, then you are delusional, and by definition, delusion is a form of mental illness. If someone has such a poor grasp on reality, that they think the universe was created by a sky daddy, that person is way too delusional to have the privilege of voting.

Commie said what? Your authoritarian streak is showing again Dan.

This is exhibit A why we need to keep smug know-nothing Progs like you as far away as possible from the levers of government and control over our lives. The hatred you exhibit daily on this site for anything not Prog should scare the shit out of thinking people with your cock-sure ideology and desire to forfeit more control of our lives to a massive government bureaucracy.

You would be happily manning the guillotines with Robespierre if you lived in France during their revolution.

socal2 says

Commie said what? Your authoritarian streak is showing again Dan.

I'm not the one who made voting a privilege rather than a right. And I do not subscribe to communism any more than capitalism. In their extremes, they are essentially the same economic system. You're just too blinded by the religion of capitalism to understand that.

sbh says

Jesus! Another ten year old. Must be a CIC alt.

Yes, it's quite possible that socal2 and CIC are the same douchebag. Same exact lack of intelligence, knowledge, honesty, or decency.

Love hearing Dan the Hater and scat fetish SBH talking about decency.

sbh says

Jesus! Another ten year old. Must be a CIC alt.

Nah, just a PIG reader.

(Most Christians DID think the world had an edge, just not the handful of well educated ones. Your local village priest or typical monk or shoemaker or Knight would have thought the world flat in the 15th Century. Ordinary Sailors certainly did. Apologists again use the minority to represent an entire culture, just like they use bathing Spaniards but ignore that French, German, English, Dutch, etc generally didn't bathe more than a few times a year)

socal2 says

Love hearing Dan the Hater and scat fetish SBH talking about decency.

Hate is the appropriate response to evil fucks like you.

socal2 says

I sure as shit can exclude an ABSENT parent from "parenthood".

You can, but then you are altering the definition based on your own values. Are you saying a crackhead who spends time at home with her kid, or a prostitute with her brood, or an abusive parent are not still parents? Of course they are, and they are not all absent. In some cases, absenteeism would be preferable!

Because humanity has pigs. And those pigs often breed gross little children that resemble the PARENTAL pig. Unless you think smacking your kid, living in squalor and doing oxys is "hard" it is most definitely easy to be a parent. It is more difficult to be a good parent, and for that you have to try. Self-centered and selfish bastards, the types this country creates by the millions (and I include plenty of the "Greatest Generation"), don't really try but have convinced themselves that they're fucking martyrs because they gave up a fancy dinner one night or change a crappy diaper. Or have their nannies do it all.

The parenting you dream of requires that you teach your children to think for themselves, be responsible, have values of their own, and so on. That is an ideal, but is not a necessity. To be a parent you have to fuck and that's about it.

thunderlips11 says

(Most Christians DID think the world had an edge, just not the handful of well educated ones. Your local village priest or typical monk or shoemaker or Knight would have thought the world flat in the 15th Century. Ordinary Sailors certainly did. Apologists again use the minority to represent an entire culture, just like they use bathing Spaniards but ignore that French, German, English, Dutch, etc generally didn't bathe more than a few times a year)

We can all agree on the darkness of the dark ages, but how is this relevant today? Throughout history and for the lack of technology we had dark ages simply because it was very hard to prove and to believe otherwise. Also, early Christianity was actually a pioneer in caring for the sick, building hospitals and developing medicine based on research in nature. If you compare Christian (and Jewish) societies in recent decades/centuries to most other religions or atheistic/communist experiments, they actually advanced science more so than most other societies and are nowadays mostly on the receiving end of persecution because they are (too) peaceful and integrate well with other religions and/or atheists.

CL says

To be a parent you have to fuck and that's about it.

To be a "good" parent, you have to RAISE kids. Not simply procreate them.