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Patrick, you should consider reaching out to up and coming wineries and invite them to hold wine tasting contests, etc. at your bar.
It might net you some free inventory.
Nice idea.
Take the $1M and buy a 700sf shack. According to the NAR it will be worth $2M by Christmas.
Better Idea.
I'd rather be a hooker taster in Montreal. Rin has poisoned my mind.
Best idea.
How about a name? We will need a name.
We could even have our own brand of wines...."Patnet Cabernet" sounds delicious.
I like it.
If it works, open one in LA too. I'd be happy to get involved.
Last month BevMo had an 80% off sale. Would have been a good time to stock up.
Of course you can also buy a large volume of Bronco wines and relabel them with fancy (and expensive) labels. I'd bet 95% of your clientelle wouldn't know the difference.
How about a name? We will need a name.
We could even have our own brand of wines...."Patnet Cabernet" sounds delicious.
Would he pull a colbert and call it pat-nay caber-nay? Have I been mispronouncimg patnet all this time?
How about a name? We will need a name.
We could even have our own brand of wines...."Patnet Cabernet" sounds delicious.
Patnet Zombie Apocalypse Wine Tasting. Smells like Victory!
Patrick, you should consider reaching out to up and coming wineries and invite them to hold wine tasting contests, etc. at your bar.
It might net you some free inventory.
Definitely! Was already part of my secret plan. When people are guessing what they're drinking, the moment of revelation is a high-value advertising opp for wineries. As long as it's good stuff, this is what I want to do.
How about a name? We will need a name.
I'm thinking "Divine Wine Bar". Lots of reasons for that. To "divine" is to guess, wine is divine, and it has vine in it, and it's kind of fruity, which might sell well in SF.
starting a wine bar might actually undercut the app idea.
Perhaps. I've considered that the app could be far more valuable than the bar, but life is short, and I want to own a wine bar. And be the bartender now and then.
The same idea but with beer instead of wine. Right now the number of excellent small breweries in the US is huge. The beer could be paired with cheese (which tastes better with beer than wine.) Also, you could serve grilled cheese sandwiches which don't require a building with restaurant ventilation.
As for the app and the competition, I think it would be still be fun and a lot more accessible for most folks.
Of course, you probably love wine and not beer, so nevermind.
Edit: "Fantasy Draft Club"
I like beer, but I love wine.
I hope someone else does the beer thing. Maybe we can cooperate on the app.
Planning to have very little (but very good) food, just cheeses, olives, bread, some cured meats. No real cooking, so not much of a kitchen.
Here is the million dollar question that has caused countless battles and destruction on Patnet.......Do we buy, or do we rent a place?
almost certainly rent. at least at first.
just looking for a tiny place which can be fixed up to look elegant enough.
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
FACE!
It's what's for dinner.
smoked and cured face with rosemary and a side of Chianti
if Patrick got hookers at this place it would be a big hit Im sure. Aging Californian office workers pretending to be rich- not so much. If he got tranny hookers it would be huge with the middle-calss white set, just dont tell anyone they have penises.
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
FACE!
It's what's for dinner.
smoked and cured face with rosemary and a side of Chianti
Don't forget the fava beans.
If he got tranny hookers it would be huge with the middle-calss white set, just dont tell anyone they have penises.
Remember, Patrick s talking about setting up shop in SF.
also: I want to open a place like this http://www.youtube.com/embed/gxEPV4kolz0
Remember, Patrick s talking about setting up shop in SF.
i swear if he combined wine tasting with shemale tasting it would be huge. all you need to do is convince the yuppies that it's 'elite' and 'distinctive'. Modern Endocrinology is doing amazing things these days.
It would be very high class if the prosciutto was FACE and the cheese was fermented Cambodian breast milk.
We could make it a topless bar. Keep your hands to yourself, Rin.
Apocalypse can be in charge of security and park his tank out in the front.
We would need a banker.....Apocalypse, can you wait until we get a loan before you rip off his arms?
Ceffer, can you make sure Apocalypse does not get carried away.
Here's a sign we can use at the cash register " In God we trust, all others pay cash"
What about a logo?
We could make it a topless bar. Keep your hands to yourself, Rin.
its a formula that was worked for millenia. Cold Refreshing drinks and topless girls. Can't beat that monetization model.
every notice something?
Jerky - cheap tacky low class food
Bresaola - uber awesome epicurian treat
basically its the same shit, different name. You can get some really good jerky in AZ if you know where to get it.
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
You have to admit the steel cage angle is compelling.
why beat around the bush?
there's only one way youre gonna get ppl into that bar
its been proven that even 'straight' women like to watch strippers.
strippers can improve your health, theyre all-natural, helps the economy, and you're *buying local*.
seriously tell me one bad thing about strippers. you can't. it's all lies and propaganda from nasty old women.
seriously tell me one bad thing about strippers. you can't.
You can't touch them.
seriously tell me one bad thing about strippers. you can't.
You can't touch them.
those are HOOKERS. different story altogether.
seriously tell me one bad thing about strippers. you can't.
You can't touch them.
those are HOOKERS. different story altogether.
So you can touch strippers, or you can't? I'm confused.
So you can touch strippers, or you can't? I'm confused.
you can try, but then you have to contend with this guy:
So you can touch strippers, or you can't? I'm confused.
you can try, but then you have to contend with this guy:
I'm not confused anymore. :( :( :(
Is "competitive wine" anything like "competitive eating"?
seriously who wants to go to drink place to compete!? thats what youre doing at work. much less use your cell phone? wow this is a horrible idea!
Lomatta Prieatta Whine Bar, where all those 6.0 pantsshitters can go to 'shake the shakes'...
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
How about this:
Get three tastings right in a row - or five in an evening - and get tossed into the steel cage with three naked dancing girls and spend the rest of the evening pestorking...
A tired formula. Starbucks was there first. People want something different, beyond just the usual Bacchanale of writhing nubile bodies and prostate-draining multiple ecstasies.
The competitions you're talking about could be just one feature.
I think a wine bar that featured tasting sized pours of several excellent wines, but at not too much of a markup above a wholesale price, could be a successful place.
If it's combined with a wine store, you could do the bar as almost a loss leader in terms of pricing (still enough of a markup to cover overhead though). Sell the bottles of wines people have to have at closer to retail, but still a very fair price.
Probably tricky, because the key is getting really great wines at great prices, which probably requires amazing connections. You have to be good at buying them yourself, because all the big names that get great reviews aren't going to be available for good prices. Probably not available at all.
So you have to be able to identify and buy the good ones that haven't been so highly reviewed (yet).
I personally can't afford an expensive wine habit, but I could see splurging in a place like that every now and then.
Ceffer, can you make sure Apocalypse does not get carried away.
I'm much more interested in provoking him to new heights.
So you can touch strippers, or you can't? I'm confused.
Strippers can touch you, but not vice versa, so I am told. However, if you are also another stripper, maybe the bouncer beats both of you up. The bouncer doesn't care, he just wants to beat somebody up.
I'm not sure how the stripper bouncer syllogisms work, any philosophy majors?
In my best shark tank voice, bad idea.
I believe the phrase Mr Wonderful uses is - "You're dead to me"
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I filled out the Kickstarter.com forms to try to raise $1M to open a small competitive wine bar in San Francisco. See preview link here:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/401808007/1194278105?token=84fcb6b3
Scroll down on that link to see description. Won't really be live until Amazon verifies my bank account, in 5 to 7 days.
What do you all think?