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goofus
2026 Jan 17, 12:12pm
The Swiss do this and it works well for them. Two years compulsory service at 18 or 3 years community service for conscientious objectors. They are, however, fairly homogenous compared with the US (though linguistically diverse). Late stage Rome, on the other hand, had compulsory service within a diverse population, and it didn’t go so well. Training and arming ethnic (and de facto cultural) aliens, what could go wrong?
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mell
2026 Jan 17, 12:49pm
It's a good idea, but preferably with the option of alternative service for those who aren't comfortable, like Germany has/had. It used to he 3 months longer than military ("punishment") but then was changed to 12 months as well. Anything from taking care of elderly and disabled people, cleaning and cooking, bus/taxi for elderly and people in wheelchairs etc. Or logistics, of course no spot guaranteed. That could also be an option for those mildly "disabled" who claim they cannot perform military service.
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Patrick
2026 Jan 17, 9:39pm
Patrick
2026 Jan 17, 9:39pm
There needs to be complete transparency and HUGE cash rewards for exposing grooming, especially grooming by faggots attracted to large numbers of 18 year olds. Faggotry ruins lives.
But aside from that, I think it's a pretty good idea.
https://patrick.net/post/1303173/2017-02-19-patrick-s-platform#301
But aside from that, I think it's a pretty good idea.
https://patrick.net/post/1303173/2017-02-19-patrick-s-platform#301
Mandate a year of national public service at age 18 with no exemptions. Mix all classes together for a year, 4th of July to 4th of July, at public service camps of 100 people, men and women separated. Selection into service camps must be provably random.
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RC2006
2026 Jan 17, 10:00pm
RC2006
2026 Jan 17, 10:00pm
I would be worried about some of the extreamly ghetto and culturally incompatible mixing with normal people especiallyof they are a majority in a location.
Better idea is do one year for the right to vote and maybe other perks.
Better idea is do one year for the right to vote and maybe other perks.
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yawaraf
2026 Jan 17, 11:01pm
Good idea in principle, but what if the government will order the enlisted youth to received objectionable injections? Along the same lines of thought, that is bodily autonomy, what if they put the offending substances in the food?
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Tenpoundbass
2026 Jan 18, 11:08am
Tenpoundbass
2026 Jan 18, 11:08am
There's a much easier way to accomplish this.
Reform every medium of our media in America. Shut down every anti America production company and networks that has shown that anti America content is the majority of the content they deliver. Reform the cable industry and streaming even the Internet and make it so hard by creating a financial burden it's not worth it. Fun fact since Obama repealed the Smith–Mundt Act, the unwatchable content that has polluted our youth's mind, is a direct result of that. Hardly any network or studio has turned a profit in over a decade. They have all been funded by dark grant money and squandered fraudulent earmarks meant for other programs.
How can the youth possibly have any optimism about the future when they have been bombard by media that produces 100% dystopian content, drilling into them futility and perversion of societal norms?
Now I know what you go along to get along panicans are thinking right about now. That's unconstitutional that's now how the 1st amendment works. yadah yadah.
But get this, nobody will be forced into doing anything. Create programs, that gives billions to producers, studios and networks, that produce Pro Patriotic American content, content that puts the Nuclear family first, shows that returns to classic story telling fundamentals. Make it so lucrative for producing classic narratives, that champions the human condition rather than disparages it in pointless dialog.
I mean truth be told that's what made Hollywood Golden age so great in the first place. As what I am describing is exactly what happened post WWII, that's what made the second Greatest Generation GenX.
Do this even Somalis will be figuring out ways to produce pro American patriotic content to get some of that money.
The rest will take care of itself.
Reform every medium of our media in America. Shut down every anti America production company and networks that has shown that anti America content is the majority of the content they deliver. Reform the cable industry and streaming even the Internet and make it so hard by creating a financial burden it's not worth it. Fun fact since Obama repealed the Smith–Mundt Act, the unwatchable content that has polluted our youth's mind, is a direct result of that. Hardly any network or studio has turned a profit in over a decade. They have all been funded by dark grant money and squandered fraudulent earmarks meant for other programs.
How can the youth possibly have any optimism about the future when they have been bombard by media that produces 100% dystopian content, drilling into them futility and perversion of societal norms?
Now I know what you go along to get along panicans are thinking right about now. That's unconstitutional that's now how the 1st amendment works. yadah yadah.
But get this, nobody will be forced into doing anything. Create programs, that gives billions to producers, studios and networks, that produce Pro Patriotic American content, content that puts the Nuclear family first, shows that returns to classic story telling fundamentals. Make it so lucrative for producing classic narratives, that champions the human condition rather than disparages it in pointless dialog.
I mean truth be told that's what made Hollywood Golden age so great in the first place. As what I am describing is exactly what happened post WWII, that's what made the second Greatest Generation GenX.
Do this even Somalis will be figuring out ways to produce pro American patriotic content to get some of that money.
The rest will take care of itself.
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WookieMan
2026 Jan 18, 12:09pm
WookieMan
2026 Jan 18, 12:09pm
RC2006 says
Exactly. Doesn't even have to be a majority. You think Chicago blacks are going to do the military? Hell no. There wouldn't be enough officers to stop them from outright not doing anything best case or worst case causing revolts and killing people. Last thing they're going to do is military for a country they believe owes them reparations for something none of us had a hand in.
While the internet has been a blessing for those that use it wisely, it has mostly dumbed down the American youths and entitled them. Toss in a bunch of fatherless blacks, good luck. Some drill sergeant isn't going to yell that out of them or some other threat. Most blacks have all spent time in jail/prison for pretty petty stuff and some dangerous. Some guy yelling at them at bootcamp won't do shit for them. Their own peers are looking to kill them already so a yelling drill sergeant is a joke to them.
I would be worried about some of the extreamly ghetto and culturally incompatible mixing with normal people especiallyof they are a majority in a location.
Exactly. Doesn't even have to be a majority. You think Chicago blacks are going to do the military? Hell no. There wouldn't be enough officers to stop them from outright not doing anything best case or worst case causing revolts and killing people. Last thing they're going to do is military for a country they believe owes them reparations for something none of us had a hand in.
While the internet has been a blessing for those that use it wisely, it has mostly dumbed down the American youths and entitled them. Toss in a bunch of fatherless blacks, good luck. Some drill sergeant isn't going to yell that out of them or some other threat. Most blacks have all spent time in jail/prison for pretty petty stuff and some dangerous. Some guy yelling at them at bootcamp won't do shit for them. Their own peers are looking to kill them already so a yelling drill sergeant is a joke to them.
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Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2026 Jan 18, 12:12pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2026 Jan 18, 12:12pm
WookieMan says
I'm not even sure if they are allowed to yell at them anymore. For sure some years back I learned that they couldn't yell naughty words anymore.
yelling drill sergeant
I'm not even sure if they are allowed to yell at them anymore. For sure some years back I learned that they couldn't yell naughty words anymore.
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WookieMan
2026 Jan 18, 1:12pm
WookieMan
2026 Jan 18, 1:12pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey says
Yeah, it's a non-starter then until you're allowed to yell and physically assault them. Not joking about the assault part either. Not just picking on blacks either, but they'd be the hardest to crack and break down into proper military men.
This is juveniles so leading up to military age:
Case in point... Young blacks have already dealt with more shit than most adults. A drill sergeant will have little influence on them.
WookieMan says
yelling drill sergeant
I'm not even sure if they are allowed to yell at them anymore. For sure some years back I learned that they couldn't yell naughty words anymore.
Yeah, it's a non-starter then until you're allowed to yell and physically assault them. Not joking about the assault part either. Not just picking on blacks either, but they'd be the hardest to crack and break down into proper military men.
This is juveniles so leading up to military age:
Case in point... Young blacks have already dealt with more shit than most adults. A drill sergeant will have little influence on them.
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Patrick
2026 Jan 18, 1:17pm
Patrick
2026 Jan 18, 1:17pm
RC2006 says
I see that as an advantage. All citizens can get to know each other.
I would be worried about some of the extreamly ghetto and culturally incompatible mixing with normal people especiallyof they are a majority in a location.
I see that as an advantage. All citizens can get to know each other.
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Patrick
2026 Jan 18, 1:17pm
Patrick
2026 Jan 18, 1:17pm
yawaraf says
Mandating injections or putting mRNA crap into food must be punished quickly with a mandatory death penalty every time it happens.
Good idea in principle, but what if the government will order the enlisted youth to received objectionable injections? Along the same lines of thought, that is bodily autonomy, what if they put the offending substances in the food?
Mandating injections or putting mRNA crap into food must be punished quickly with a mandatory death penalty every time it happens.
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floki
2026 Jan 18, 2:21pm
Yeah all great points. No easy solutions or trade offs but things on all sides gotta change for the better, the sooner the better. Maybe some or all of these ideas can be optimized and A/B tested at the very least. What do we got to loose beyond what's already costing us ?
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FortWayneHatesRealtors
2026 Jan 18, 7:50pm
floki says
I still don't want it. Because wars are just children of the poor dying for the money of the rich. Always been, always will be. I like Trump, but Trump Jr isn't going to hit front lines, Chelsea Clinton isn't going to be a Marine, Bill Gates kids aren't going to be in the trenches, nor will anyone who is wealthy.
Yeah all great points. No easy solutions or trade offs but things on all sides gotta change for the better, the sooner the better. Maybe some or all of these ideas can be optimized and A/B tested at the very least. What do we got to loose beyond what's already costing us ?
I still don't want it. Because wars are just children of the poor dying for the money of the rich. Always been, always will be. I like Trump, but Trump Jr isn't going to hit front lines, Chelsea Clinton isn't going to be a Marine, Bill Gates kids aren't going to be in the trenches, nor will anyone who is wealthy.
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Glock-n-Load
2026 Jan 18, 8:40pm
I don’t like the word compulsory.
The real problem is the fact that a man can’t simply go out and pick a plot of land and be left alone. Completely left alone. You must be in the system to survive. This is the square peg in a round hole problem.
America in the 1800s must have been pretty awesome. Yes I know, even poor Americans have it better now vs 1800s BUT they didn’t know about today’s conveniences.
Imagine all the businesses and companies started without any government intrusion. This has become a very real problem also.
It should be dead simple to start a company without dealing with government. At least until the company hits a certain financial threshold. This would be a great thing.
The real problem is the fact that a man can’t simply go out and pick a plot of land and be left alone. Completely left alone. You must be in the system to survive. This is the square peg in a round hole problem.
America in the 1800s must have been pretty awesome. Yes I know, even poor Americans have it better now vs 1800s BUT they didn’t know about today’s conveniences.
Imagine all the businesses and companies started without any government intrusion. This has become a very real problem also.
It should be dead simple to start a company without dealing with government. At least until the company hits a certain financial threshold. This would be a great thing.
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Glock-n-Load
2026 Jan 18, 8:46pm
clambo says
Education is compulsory. I think this sounds similar.
I would object to this violation of my rights by the government.
Education is compulsory. I think this sounds similar.
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RWSGFY
2026 Jan 19, 8:32am
RWSGFY
2026 Jan 19, 8:32am
"1 months of job training" is idiocy. You can't teach people to do any skilled job in one month.
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clambo
2026 Jan 19, 8:32am
But, home schooling is also legal in the USA; it's not required that you attend government schools.
Private schools are also legal; they're not government schools.
Private schools are also legal; they're not government schools.
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RWSGFY
2026 Jan 19, 8:37am
RWSGFY
2026 Jan 19, 8:37am
The number of people reaching the age of 18 in 2026 is about 4-4.2M.
What the fuck are we supposed to do with the army of this size in addition to current active duty force of ~2M?
It's 6M total. In peacetime.
Madness.
What the fuck are we supposed to do with the army of this size in addition to current active duty force of ~2M?
It's 6M total. In peacetime.
Madness.
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RWSGFY
2026 Jan 19, 8:40am
RWSGFY
2026 Jan 19, 8:40am
clambo says
Conscription is not a violation of any rights.
I would object to this violation of my rights by the government.
Conscription is not a violation of any rights.
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SharkyP
2026 Jan 19, 9:54am
SharkyP
2026 Jan 19, 9:54am
I like the idea. I was an Eagle Scout, which taught me well. I was from an all white area when I joined the USMC. Imagine my surprise when a ghetto black tried to slit my throat at night. Fortunately a Puerto Rican jumped from the top bunk and pulled his switch blade. Apparently they don’t understand sarcasm in the ghetto, hence the attack.
As an aside I would make the requirement 2 years. Helps solve the unemployment rate for young Americans.
As an aside I would make the requirement 2 years. Helps solve the unemployment rate for young Americans.
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Glock-n-Load
2026 Jan 19, 1:59pm
RWSGFY says
I think it’s just to expose them to occupational choices.
"1 months of job training" is idiocy. You can't teach people to do any skilled job in one month.
I think it’s just to expose them to occupational choices.
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Glock-n-Load
2026 Jan 19, 1:59pm
RWSGFY says
What?
clambo says
I would object to this violation of my rights by the government.
Conscription is not a violation of any rights.
What?
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Glock-n-Load
2026 Jan 19, 2:04pm
I don’t like the compulsory aspect but, certainly make it available. I’d be on board with making it compulsory for anyone on welfare and for anyone (depending on age and/or how many strikes and what severity) who breaks the law. I think that would be a good idea.
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floki
2026 Jan 19, 2:38pm
RWSGFY says
My reason for rule #1 I stated was along your argument. These youngsters are not to be deployed anywhere outside the main US soil, not even during a declared war. They would only be supporting in basic jobs. But you're right, they are military.
Is it too terrible to have 2% of the population in a standing military ?
How about opening up all other public services such as national guard, police, prison security, coast guard, border security, park rangers, fire, etc....
The number of people reaching the age of 18 in 2026 is about 4-4.2M.
What the fuck are we supposed to do with the army of this size in addition to current active duty force of ~2M?
It's 6M total. In peacetime.
Madness.
My reason for rule #1 I stated was along your argument. These youngsters are not to be deployed anywhere outside the main US soil, not even during a declared war. They would only be supporting in basic jobs. But you're right, they are military.
Is it too terrible to have 2% of the population in a standing military ?
How about opening up all other public services such as national guard, police, prison security, coast guard, border security, park rangers, fire, etc....
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floki
2026 Jan 19, 2:40pm
Glock-n-Load says
Yes, any public charge should certainly be required to serve.
I don’t like the compulsory aspect but, certainly make it available. I’d be on board with making it compulsory for anyone on welfare and for anyone (depending on age and/or how many strikes and what severity) who breaks the law. I think that would be a good idea.
Yes, any public charge should certainly be required to serve.
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floki
2026 Jan 19, 2:45pm
SharkyP says
Or make the 2nd year optional.
I like the idea. I was an Eagle Scout, which taught me well. I was from an all white area when I joined the USMC. Imagine my surprise when a ghetto black tried to slit my throat at night. Fortunately a Puerto Rican jumped from the top bunk and pulled his switch blade. Apparently they don’t understand sarcasm in the ghetto, hence the attack.
As an aside I would make the requirement 2 years. Helps solve the unemployment rate for young Americans.
Or make the 2nd year optional.
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mell
2026 Jan 19, 2:45pm
floki says
Or anyone who wants to serve a federal public office (and get paid).
Glock-n-Load says
I don’t like the compulsory aspect but, certainly make it available. I’d be on board with making it compulsory for anyone on welfare and for anyone (depending on age and/or how many strikes and what severity) who breaks the law. I think that would be a good idea.
Yes, any public charge should certainly be required to serve.
Or anyone who wants to serve a federal public office (and get paid).
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floki
2026 Jan 19, 2:46pm
Glock-n-Load says
Yes !
RWSGFY says
"1 months of job training" is idiocy. You can't teach people to do any skilled job in one month.
I think it’s just to expose them to occupational choices.
Yes !
Compulsory military trainig and serivce for 1 year at 18yo or after high school, whichever comes later.
Here are some details.
First, one very hard rule (among others that will need to be hashed out): Domestic functions ONLY. No service in any capacity in any foreign soil. Only on the main US soils. Not even during a declared war. There are already well trained career soldiers for that. This rule must be amended to the constitution clearly. No exceptions and no interpretations.
Both males and females. Extreme disabilities are to be evaluated for exemptions on a case by case.
3 months of boot camp, firearm, physical, mental, and camaraderie training.
1 month of basic classroom training on US constitution, history, law and order, leadership, critical thinking, world's affairs, and US visions.
1 month of basic job specific training. The kids will get a chance to try out all kinds of jobs in the militaries: chef, MP, security, firearm tester, IT, communications, interpreter, fitness coach, etc.... unlimited opportunities. The chosen job cannot be changed throughout the service.
The rest of the year serving in the chosen job.
A fixed annual stipen, a minimum of 200% of whatever prevailing federal minimum wage. Paid at the end of service. No federal or state taxes on this stipen.
Some of these kids and their parents already engage in some of these today, such as scouts, ROTC, certain team sports, etc.... but this will help all the kids. It does cost them 1 year of their early years but I believe the potential benefits both to them and to the country far exceed the costs. And those who may have wasted away their HS years and become even more lost after HS get another chance instead of aimlessly wondering around or worse. I would have liked to see kids in my family go through that. They will also be more mature and better prepared for their futures outside, with a bit of money earned.
That's all I can think of at the moment. Add your wishlist here.
And send this to Pete Hegseth !