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The wealthy are not necessarily smart


               
2025 Dec 12, 6:48pm   422 views  20 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

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Howard Marks on Bubbles

One of the most interesting aspects of bubbles is their regularity, not in terms of timing, but rather the progression they follow. Something new and seemingly revolutionary appears and worms its way into people’s minds. It captures their imagination, and the excitement is overwhelming. The early participants enjoy huge gains. Those who merely look on feel incredible envy and regret and – motivated by the fear of continuing to miss out – pile in. They do this without knowledge of what the future will bring or concern about whether the price they’re paying can possibly be expected to produce a reasonable return with a tolerable amount of risk. The end result for investors is inevitably painful in the short to medium term, although it’s possible to end up ahead after enough years have passed.

Marks above reminds me of this passage from John Kenneth Galbraith’s, “A Short History of Financial Euphoria”:

Contributing to and supporting this euphoria are two further factors little noted in our time or in past times. The first is the extreme brevity of the financial memory. In consequence, financial disaster is quickly forgotten. In further consequence, when the same or closely similar circumstances occur again, sometimes in only a few years, they are hailed by a new, often youthful, and always supremely self-confident generation as a brilliantly innovative discovery in the financial and larger economic world. There can be few fields of human endeavor in which history counts for so little as in the world of finance. Past experience, to the extent that it is part of memory at all, is dismissed as the primitive refuge of those who do not have the insight to appreciate the incredible wonders of the present.

The second factor contributing to speculative euphoria and programmed collapse is the specious association of money and intelligence. Mention of this is not a formula for eliciting reputable applause, but, alas, it must be accepted, for acceptance is also highly useful, a major protection against personal or institutional disaster.

The basic situation is wonderfully clear. In all free-enterprise (once called capitalist) attitudes there is a strong tendency to believe that the more money, either as income or assets, of which an individual is possessed or with which he is associated, the deeper and more compelling his economic and social perception, the more astute and penetrating his mental processes. Money is the measure of capitalist achievement. The more money, the greater the achievement and the intelligence that supports it.

Further, in a world where for many the acquisition of money is difficult and the resulting sums palpably insufficient, the possession of it in large amount seems a miracle. Accordingly, possession must be associated with some special genius. This view is then reinforced by the air of self-confidence and self-approval that is commonly assumed by the affluent. On no matter is the mental inferiority of the ordinary layman so rudely and abruptly stated: “I’m afraid that you simply don’t understand financial matters.” In fact, such reverence for the possession of money again indicates the shortness of memory, the ignorance of history, and the consequent capacity for self- and popular delusion just mentioned. Having money may mean, as often in the past and frequently in the present, that the person is foolishly indifferent to legal constraints and may, in modern times, be a potential resident of a minimum-security prison. Or the money may have been inherited, and, notoriously, mental acuity does not pass in reliable fashion from parent to offspring. On all these matters, a more careful examination of the presumed financial genius, a sternly detailed interrogation to test his or her intelligence, would frequently and perhaps normally produce a different conclusion. Unfortunately the subject is rarely available for such scrutiny; that, too, wealth or seeming financial competence often excludes.

Finally and more specifically, we compulsively associate unusual intelligence with the leadership of the great financial institutions— the large banking, investment-banking, insurance, and brokerage houses. The larger the capital assets and income flow controlled, the deeper the presumed financial, economic, and social perception.

In practice, the individual or individuals at the top of these institutions are often there because, as happens regularly in great organizations, theirs was mentally the most predictable and, in consequence, bureaucratically the least inimical of the contending talent. He, she, or they are then endowed with the authority that encourages acquiescence from their subordinates and applause from their acolytes and that excludes adverse opinion or criticism. They are thus admirably protected in what may be a serious commitment to error.

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1   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Dec 12, 7:14pm  

Good point, just professional crooks.
2   HeadSet   2025 Dec 12, 7:27pm  

Patrick says

The wealthy are not necessarily smart

They were smart enough to marry and divorce the right guy.
3   Glock-n-Load   2025 Dec 12, 9:24pm  

It’s this air of superiority that people gravitate to that makes it all possible. That’s not to say that all people who have made great sums of money aren’t or haven’t made it honestly. IMO, it’s how the money was made that makes all the difference.
4   clambo   2025 Dec 12, 9:25pm  

My father said to me: "If you're so smart, how come you're not rich?"
5   Glock-n-Load   2025 Dec 12, 9:33pm  

clambo says

My father said to me: "If you're so smart, how come you're not rich?"

I knew a guy who sold drugs all through high school. Barely graduated. He ended up owning a printing company where most of his customers were over the internet. He couldn’t read or write but was taking home a million a year.
6   SharkyP   2025 Dec 13, 5:48am  

In consequence, financial disaster is quickly forgotten…
I don’t know about that. My parents and my grandparents that suffered through the great depression certainly never forgot. The future frugality, they were famous for never left them for the fear of a repeat! I remember my father remarking to me during the Dot.com bubble that I needed to be especially careful because it reminded him of the past.
7   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 13, 10:10am  

The coin of most of the top 1% in networking. Invites as early investors.

"Invest like Warren Buffet!" Warren began as the well connected, well of grandson of a Congressman and local politicians with a yuge network. Buffet gets offered all kinds of convertible equities, warrants, etc. that nobody with a Robin Hood account can access.
8   clambo   2025 Dec 13, 10:18am  

One doesn't need to be very smart to have money later in life; it takes 1. discipline 2. avoiding mistakes (all kinds) 3. investing in stocks domiciled in the USA (forget emerging markets, etc.)

You'd think this isn't so amazing, but people generally 1. lack discipline 2. embrace mistakes 3. don't like investing much.

I have many stories I could tell but don't want to bore everyone.
9   GNL   2025 Dec 13, 3:07pm  

clambo says

One doesn't need to be very smart to have money later in life; it takes 1. discipline 2. avoiding mistakes (all kinds) 3. investing in stocks domiciled in the USA (forget emerging markets, etc.)

You'd think this isn't so amazing, but people generally 1. lack discipline 2. embrace mistakes 3. don't like investing much.

I have many stories I could tell but don't want to bore everyone.

Lots of people like to live in the moment. There are extremes on both ends.
10   Misc   2025 Dec 13, 4:50pm  

People's views differ greatly depending on what part of the market cycle they are in along with what investment strategy worked out for that particular point in time.
11   Patrick   2025 Dec 13, 6:09pm  

clambo says

I have many stories I could tell but don't want to bore everyone.


@clambo I'd be interested in some of the stories.
12   AD   2025 Dec 13, 8:57pm  

Gordon Gecko from Wall Street said you are ultra rich
1) if you are lucky enough to be a moron trust fund baby,
2) if you start or operate a successful business,
3) or if you are like him as far as speculate on stocks.

If you can leverage and are good with managing and maintaining/repairing real estate, then one way is to invest in duplexes or triplexes for starters. Eventually you expand and scale up, and then hire people to do your property management and facilities engineering.
13   AD   2025 Dec 13, 9:04pm  

clambo says

One doesn't need to be very smart to have money later in life; it takes 1. discipline 2. avoiding mistakes (all kinds) 3. investing in stocks domiciled in the USA (forget emerging markets, etc.)


Yep, I know of people from western Europe like Germany and Italy that migrated to the USA in the 1930s-1950s and they were very careful with money as well as wisely invested it such as in rental properties that they managed, and in blue chip stocks and mutual funds like the Wellington Fund (8.4% annual return since inception in July 1929 versus average annual inflation rate of 2.6%).


14   AD   2025 Dec 13, 10:09pm  

clambo says

You'd think this isn't so amazing, but people generally 1. lack discipline 2. embrace mistakes 3. don't like investing much.


Two books to follow are Richest Man in Babylon and How to Make Money in Stocks: A Winning System in Good Times and Bad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Richest_Man_in_Babylon#Seven_Cures_For_a_Lean_Purse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN_SLIM
15   HeadSet   2025 Dec 14, 8:11am  

AD says

Richest Man in Babylon

"Richest Man in Babylon" is a sales tool to push mutual funds with dollar cost averaging. It is a favorite handout for sellers of loaded funds.
16   AD   2025 Dec 14, 9:30am  

HeadSet says

AD says


Richest Man in Babylon

"Richest Man in Babylon" is a sales tool to push mutual funds with dollar cost averaging. It is a favorite handout for sellers of loaded funds.


If anything just buying a Vanguard index fund like Total Stock Market Index ETF is a good investment.
17   AD   2025 Dec 14, 9:35am  

Article about the wealthy (maybe under advisement of their wealth managers/stock brokers)

The report notes that higher-income households are instead moving cash out of regular bank accounts and into higher-yield options, such as money market funds, brokerage accounts and certificates of deposit (CDs) (3).

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wealthy-americans-moving-cash-checking-124500548.html
18   mell   2025 Dec 14, 9:36am  

If enough resarch, grit and wits are put into it, trading of individual stocks after careful research leads to best results. If you don't have the time or means, stick with ETFs or large cap dividend stocks. Also swing trading around the core enhances profitability, esp. in volatile markets, but costs time. If you need to be online for your day job it can be done in parallel though.
19   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Dec 14, 12:54pm  

mell says


If enough resarch, grit and wits are put into it, trading of individual stocks after careful research leads to best results. If you don't have the time or means, stick with ETFs or large cap dividend stocks. Also swing trading around the core enhances profitability, esp. in volatile markets, but costs time. If you need to be online for your day job it can be done in parallel though.


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20   HeadSet   2025 Dec 14, 3:38pm  

mell says

trading of individual stocks after careful research leads to best results

Not necessarily. Luck is a big deal since no matter how much you research, you have no insider info. When I bought Playtika everything about it looked great. Then it plummeted soon after I bought it.

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