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Why did Trump greet Islamic terrorist Ahmed Al-Sharaa (AKA Muhammad Al-Jawlani) in the White House?


               
2025 Nov 11, 11:36am   547 views  28 comments

by Patrick   follow (60)  

https://palexander.substack.com/p/i-myself-am-scratching-my-head-with


Platforming the former killer and maimer of U.S. Marines on the Marine Corps’s birthday likely generated some hard feelings amongst the parents and spouses of Marine veterans who were killed or horribly wounded in Iraq, given that these traumatic events of the past continue to affect them.

I understand that expediency and utilitarian considerations have always been a feature of politics. Al-Sharaa is now the CIA’s “Man in Damascus,” and will probably serve western banks and constructions companies well.

I also understand that the ruling classes have always regarded ordinary soldiers as expendable cannon fodder, worthy of zero consideration—that is, until the ruling class wants to call them up to kill and be killed.”

Point is I do trust POTUS Trump and his decision on this. There are things we as lay and even in government do not know relative to the POTUS. So, I have to trust but at a surface blush this is confusing, concerning, and raises questions. So many American troops died and have been brutally disfigured due to this man and similar.





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1   DeficitHawk   2025 Nov 11, 11:53am  

People say lots of bad things about Trump meeting with controversial foreign leaders. Actually it's one thing I like about him. He did it with North Korea and everyone said it was bad...and true it did not fix that situation .. but it's still ok to try. It costs nothing, and might help something.

I think it's ok to have dialog with foreign leaders even if they are controversial or even if they are clearly doing something bad. This guy did all sorts of bad stuff during the civil war, and killed lots of people... but now he is the leader of Syria, and unless we want to go invade/overthrow him, we'd better figure out a way to work with him to end the civil war and human rights abuses. Trump SHOULD meet with him.

The problem with Trump is not that he talks to controversial leaders. The problem is when he believes obvious lies at face value and gets taken advantage of and made a fool like with Putin and Ukraine. He should not adopt a trusting position with these people. He should require validated actions in exchange for deals made, not just words.
2   RWSGFY   2025 Nov 11, 12:02pm  

Same reason he greeted indicted war criminal and raging pedophile V. Pukin: the conviction he can shmooze that kind of people into some kind of decent "deal" by meeting with them, rolling out red carpets, holding hands, dancing to YMCA and dangling financial carrots in front of them. When the the only thing they understand and respect is big stick. He's going full Carter on them instead of going full Reagan.
3   Ceffer   2025 Nov 11, 12:12pm  

Trump will accede to temporary stability while more important matters can move forward? The Intels themselves are stateless states of states who tax the criminal networks of the world for their monies. They don't rely on mere taxation of working citizens and legal economies or governments.

They are international corporatocracies and they are the ones who manage and cause all of this shit. Whoever they prop up at the moment is today's media fashion. They rely on the risible tribal viciousness to generate the antipodes, different banners, different religions, different names, different times, different false flags etc. etc. A little Satanic slaughter pleases their demons.

This terrorist is probably dumb as a plank and lets the Brits and Americans continue to steal the oil in the vicinity and post troops and bases. He is a will o' the wisp who will probably be Gaddafi'd in time.

That truck bomb in Lebanon in 1983 under Reagan killing hundreds of Marines was also just another ho hum false flag, as it seems that most of the scheduled atrocities are. You never know who is 'killing our boys', 'us' or 'them'.
4   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 11, 12:45pm  

Why did FDR meet with Stalin?
Why did Nixon meet with Mao?
Why did Henry Ford build (then) cutting edge factories, plural, for the Soviets?
6   Patrick   2025 Nov 11, 1:35pm  

The real reason a terrorist was warmly greeted in the White House is that the US has no principles at all beyond expanding its power.

This guy helped get the Russians out of Syria. There were zero principles involved in that except increasing American power and limiting Russian power.

And not because Russia is our enemy. They are not.

Our enemies are all in DC.

This is exactly the same kind of shit that led to 9/11.
9   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 12, 12:14am  

Trump invited the freakin' Taliban to Camp David in his first term. Threatened to bomb them, their families, their favorite Bacca Bazi(sp) and their beloved nanny goat.

19 months of no casualties. Then Biden's NIAC Georgetown Retard State Department fucked it all up.
11   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 12, 12:24am  

At least Massie found something else to performatively complain about besides Epstein and spending bills that actually have a chance in hell of passing.
12   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 12, 12:26am  

Speaking of useless c-nuts, I found MTG's only self-written successful bill was renaming a Post Office.
13   SharkyP   2025 Nov 12, 7:07am  

I found his answer to the Abraham Accords to be telling. We shall see.
14   UveBeenNudged1   2025 Nov 12, 8:39am  

A couple of randoms I saw shared on X.




15   DeficitHawk   2025 Nov 12, 9:30am  

Patrick says


And not because Russia is our enemy. They are not.

Russia is an enemy of peace and stability because they have violated the principle of non aggression, and have invaded their neighbor who was not threatening them.

I still think it's ok for Trump to meet with Putin. Sometimes diplomacy will find a path. It costs nothing to talk, and sometimes something might come from it. Trump's mistake was not that he talked to Putin...

His mistake was to misjudge Putin's intentions, (trusting that Putin will work on a ceasefire instead of continuously advancing until stopped)... and give concessions without getting anything in return. He just got played for a fool. Now Trump is correctly trying to stop the oil sales... maybe he is starting to see the reality bit by bit.

It still doesn't mean that talking to controversial foreign leaders is wrong. Just don't get played for a fool. He SHOULD talk to the leader of Syria. He just shouldn't overextend trust, and should require demonstrated actions towards peace/stability in exchange for any benefit provided.
16   mell   2025 Nov 12, 9:45am  

DeficitHawk says

Russia is an enemy of peace and stability because they have violated the principle of non aggression, and have invaded their neighbor who was not threatening them.

Hogwash. Russians living in the now border areas were shelled for years. Pro-Russian citizens living in the Ukraine have been persecuted for years. Nord stream was blown up. Maidan color revolution. Nato troops. Nuff said. Europe should seek business relations with Russia and come to the table. Fuck this proxy war and its enablers.
17   mell   2025 Nov 12, 9:48am  

We have demonrats cheating in almost every election with dogs voting in CA, Europe canceling elections and parties they don't "like" but we claim Russian referendums are rigged. OK.
18   DeficitHawk   2025 Nov 12, 10:54am  

You can parrot all the Russian propaganda you want. Some people are susceptible to it, I understand.

I still think it's ok for Trump to meet with the presidents of both Syria and Russia. Not just OK, I think he should do it.

He just shouldn't be a fool and extend trust to someone who has not demonstrated good faith actions.
19   mell   2025 Nov 12, 11:01am  

DeficitHawk says


You can parrot all the Russian propaganda you want. Some people are susceptible to it, I understand.

I still think it's ok for Trump to meet with the presidents of both Syria and Russia. Not just OK, I think he should do it.

He just shouldn't be a fool and extend trust to someone who has not demonstrated good faith actions.

He isn't a fool, fools are those who think making concessions and peace in an already lost, stupidly provoked war is Russian propaganda. The citizens of every nation involved in aiding grifter zelninsky and all of his now amid bribery scandals retiring handlers are the ones who are suffering, personally and momentarily while the leftoid marxist West feigns moral superiority. Despicable.
20   Patrick   2025 Nov 12, 11:14am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/contentedness-wednesday-november


Jeff Childers is a glass half-full kind of guy which is appreciated, nobody likes a sad-sack Eeyore.

But we need to be clear-eyed about this, the MAGA agenda is in deep trouble.

The elections were a disaster and a wake-up call. Trump was roundly booed at a football game last weekend. He went on Laura Ingraham yesterday and said we had to admit 500,000 Chinese or half the universities would fail, and doing so was the MAGA agenda. He claimed the economy was great and he didn't know what people were talking about when saying it isn't.

Right now we have a coordinated effort from Conservative Inc to take out Tucker, JD Vance, and anyone else who isn't sufficiently a pro-Israel sycophant. They responded to Charlie Kirk's death not by demanding Antifa be destroyed, but by initiating a purity purge within the party. Defiantly non- Christians like Ben Shapiro are now telling us who we are, and who we aren't, allowed to listen to. Trump has said nothing. Antifa went violently nuts at a TPUSA event in Berkeley last night, we get radio silence from the White House.

As the base, we need to make clear we will not tolerate this. Trump is turning into a delusional Boomer (apparently soaking up Fox News slop 24/7) right before our eyes.

The man who nine months ago seemed to have learned so much from his first term, is now reverting to that form. This started with the Epstein cover up and has snowballed from there. Yes we love Trump but we do so because he stands for America (and Americans) first. This isn't a cult of personality, If he fails to put America first then that support stops.

That loss of support is already happening, which is why the elections were such a wipe-out. Young people can't buy homes and the Administration's response was a proposal for 50 year mortgages. Absolutely delusional and incredibly tone deaf. More debt? Insanity. Trump needs to course correct now or Republicans will lose the midterms in a landslide and the last two years of Trump will be nothing but lawfare and impeachments.

There have been a few positive signs after the election, but that Laura Ingraham interview yesterday was nuts and left me really concerned. Laura looked like she couldn't believe what she was hearing. pray he doesn't believe what he said because if he does he (and we) are cooked.

Make your voice heard. We love Trump because he puts us first, but it's not unconditional.


I agree. It's important to support MAGA principles and not just Trump the guy, no matter what he does.
21   Patrick   2025 Nov 12, 11:27am  

But Jeff Childers does remain optimistic and has some good reasons:


Last week, both Visa and Mastercard, which each process hundreds of billions of annual transactions, told investors they saw no sign of any consumer pullback, which they would expect if consumers really smelled a Great Depression coming...

In other words, while people tell pollsters they feel bad about the economy, mostly they are happily spending at or above prior-year levels.

Thus, economists have coined a new post-pandemic term to explain the disconnect. It’s not a recession, it is a “vibe-cession.” Meaning, people say they emotionally feel like they are in a 1930s Great Depression, but they are rationally acting like they’re in the Roaring Twenties.

What, pray tell, could explain this vibey disconnect? I wouldn’t call it a vibecession. I would call it a mediacession.

In an era of extreme political polarization,” the investment site Motley Fool recently explained, “it’s likely that politicians will attempt to sway voters based on a vibecession caused by a real or imaginary downturn.” Not just politicians. The media.

Last year, when the media was trying its best to convince voters that Biden’s economy was terrific, and fool everyone that there was no inflation, the media even threw themselves under the bus. Headline from the Atlantic, January 2024:

"Is Economic Pessimism the Media's Fault?"

Question asked! And that was even when they were actually trying to boost the economy, rather than destroy it, like now.

The San Francisco Federal Reserve compiles a “Daily News Sentiment Index,” which tallies negative words used in media headlines about the economy. Here’s the current chart, as of November 3rd. Notice anything?




Can the media do this? Does media hold the power to convince people that the economy is terrible even though the fundamentals are strong, or even great?

I don’t know, but some people (cough) have concluded the media terrified the entire world into believing an average flu season was a deadly pandemic, and tricked them into putting cut-up t-shirts on their faces, standing six feet apart in checkout lines, and following arrows on supermarket floors like trained hamsters. So.
22   The_Deplorable   2025 Nov 12, 2:22pm  

DeficitHawk says
"Russia is an enemy of peace and stability because they have violated the principle of non aggression, and have invaded their neighbor who was not threatening them."

No. It was the U.S.A. under Obama who overthrew the democratically elected government of the Ukraine in 2014 and installed the current Nazi regime. And it was these Nazis who started killing Ukraine's Russians for speaking Russian! And Ukraine is losing this war decisively - Their only option right now is unconditional surrender..
23   UveBeenNudged1   2025 Nov 15, 6:19am  

This leftist makes some well-designed memes, and uses pro software, unlike my own Paint.NET efforts.
https://x.com/MemeIndustrial






24   PeopleUnited   2025 Nov 16, 6:38am  

Patrick says

But Jeff Childers does remain optimistic and has some good reasons:

I don’t have enough data to feign a prediction about the future of the economy for 2026. But I do know the prices of most of the food, insurance, taxes etc that i need to buy have risen as fast or faster than income has increased in the past several years.

If the economy is strong, when will I see the benefits of this abundance?
25   KgK one   2025 Nov 16, 7:50am  

Bcs cia n mossad funds all these guys to dirty work. Then usa goes in n saves the people in oil n minerals rich areas. Once us takes over, all the bad things to people in that country disappear, atleast from media.
27   Patrick   2025 Nov 16, 12:59pm  

https://rudy.substack.com/p/that-permanency-of-value


Muhammad al-Jawlani

Rewards for Justice is offering a reward of up to $10 million for information on Muhammad al-Jawlani, also known as Abu Muhammad al-Golani and Muhammad al-Julani. Al-Jawlani leads the al-Nusrah Front (ANF), al-Qa'ida's (AQ) affiliate in Syria. In January 2017, ANF merged with several other hardline opposition groups to form Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). While al-Jawlani is not the leader of HTS, he remains the leader of AQ-affiliated ANF, which is at the core of HTS.

Under al-Jawlani's leadership, AF has carried out multiple terrorist attacks throughout Syria, often targeting civilians. In April 2015, ANF reportedly kidnapped, and later released, approximately 300 Kurdish civilians from a checkpoint in Syria. In June 2015, ANF claimed responsibility for the massacre of 20 residents in the Druze village of Qalb Lawzeh in idlib province, Syria.

In April 2013, al-Jawlani pledged allegiance to AQ and its leader Ayman al-Zawahiri. In July 2016, al-Jawlani praised AQ and al-Zawahiri in an online video and claimed the ANF was changing its name to Jabhat Fath Al Sham (*Conquest of the Levant Front").

On May 16, 2013, the U.S. Department of State designated al- Jawlani as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist pursuant to Executive Order 13224, as amended. As a result of this designation, among other consequences, all property and interests in property of al-Jawlani that are subject to U.S. jurisdiction are blocked, and U.S. persons are generally prohibited from engaging in any transactions with al-Jawlani.

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