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Does the Sour Kraut and Corned beef on a Ruben count as a proper St Patrick Day meal?


               
2025 Mar 17, 3:50pm   520 views  33 comments

by Tenpoundbass   follow (10)  

I Steamed the CB in a bamboo steamer, didn't dry out and oxidize after I sliced it the way it does when I boil it with cabbage. My new favorite way to cook it. I can eat boiled cabbage any day. But Rubens always a treat.
I did have a Guinness with it.

CB sliced thin
butter in the pan
Two slices of Rye bread in the pan after butter melts
Layer CB over one slice of bread, and Swiss cheese on the other,
A thin layer of Sour Kraut over the meat small dollop of Thousand Island dressing
Close the two breads together. Continue grilling each side until golden brown and the cheese is melted.

Surprisingly only one of the small kiddos wanted just mayo on Petridge Farm White Sandwich bread, and provolone, melted in the pan.
The other two kiddos enjoyed the full Monty Ruben as is. My older daughter thought she didn't like Rye, Sour Kraut, and Swiss. But I made a liar out of her.
Pain in the ass having to grill up 4 sandwiches before I can get to mine. But such is the life of a short order cook.

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1   Ceffer   2025 Mar 17, 11:00pm  

We'll have corned beef later in the week. Better late than never.
2   WookieMan   2025 Mar 18, 12:26am  

Don't know why, but corned beef is disgusting. It literally is making me want to puke a little bit. If you like it, fine. If it was good you'd eat it more than once a year. Swiss is good, but F sour kraut and rye. That's shit bread.

Thousand island can also die a thousand deaths. Irish and UK have shit taste in food. Nicer people than the French or Italians, but their food sucks. Spain and Greek win Europe food wise. I'm sure there are others, but UK and Irish are bottom of the totem pole.
3   AmenCorner_AntiPanican   2025 Mar 18, 1:59am  

Tenpoundbass says


CB sliced thin
butter in the pan
Two slices of Rye bread in the pan after butter melts
Layer CB over one slice of bread, and Swiss cheese on the other,
A thin layer of Sour Kraut over the meat small dollop of Thousand Island dressing
Close the two breads together. Continue grilling each side until golden brown and the cheese is melted.

Oh man, sounds great. Right on with the Small amount, too many people kill it with the dressing.
4   komputodo   2025 Mar 18, 8:40am  

Tenpoundbass says


But Rubens always a treat.

Reubens are my favorite sandwich. With some NY style dill spears on the side. That's high livin'

5   WookieMan   2025 Mar 18, 11:34am  

komputodo says

Reubens are my favorite sandwich.

Does that include sub sandwiches? An Italian sub is amazing if you go to the right place. Go to the places where the guys in there are fat as can be.

Is a gyro considered a sandwich technically? That would be my favorite.

I just don't like Reubens or rye bread. I'll have to give it a shot again at some point. Reputable restaurant in my area and I wanted to puke after eating it. It's been 2 decades probably.
6   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 18, 1:10pm  

Rubens are my favorite sandwich as well. When I went to New York in early 2000's I discovered that the South Florida Jewish community makes Deli favorites a lot different than New York Delis do. I like them like how I described.

I was taken back when I went to Katz's and Stage Deli, they are just pretty much a mountain of Corned Beef served over cold Rye Bread open face style. The sour kraut and dressing is on the side. It looked like 2 pounds of corned beef. but just 2 slices of rye bread.

I felt like getting it to go, buying a loaf of rye bread, and I could have made 4 huge sandwiches out of it back at the hotel room. I mean you get a hell of a lot more at those New York Delis, and honestly there's no way you could ever do a classic melt style with that much meat.

I think expectations got the better of me, or I would have appreciated those Rubens much more than I did at the time. Funny how ethic food changes from region to region.
7   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 18, 1:15pm  

WookieMan says


An Italian sub is amazing if you go to the right place.


Italian subs are all about the bread. Very few places has nice crusty Italian bread, with soft as a cloud bread on the inside. Once the bread is on par, I can begin to criticize the quality of the provisions inside. But the proper bread can forgive most of that. Nothing worse than rubbery chewy Sub Shop bread. Where you have to bite hard and pull away a bite, then chew like hell.

Or maybe Doris Italian meat market and Deli has me spoiled like that.
8   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 18, 1:19pm  

WookieMan says


I just don't like Reubens or rye bread. I'll have to give it a shot again at some point. Reputable restaurant in my area and I wanted to puke after eating it. It's been 2 decades probably.


You either make a Ruben at home, or go to a Deli known for Rubens. Nothing worse than a Diner Ruben, I have never gotten a good Ruben at a place that has Rubens on the menu, but aren't known for Rubens, and don't have any other Corned beef items on the menu. The Corned beef is always off, and most likely not good rye bread. These days you can expect to pay $25.00 for a decent Ruben at a decent place known for Rubens.

I like Gyros but only from Greek places that has the meat on the spindle and slice it as you order it. Gyroville is gross.
9   stereotomy   2025 Mar 18, 1:51pm  

WookieMan says

Don't know why, but corned beef is disgusting.

The regular "red" corned beef uses saltpeter, so it tastes mildly like chemical.

Home-made corned beef using salt, not saltpeter, tastes delicious. It's brownish, not reddish. Make it using 100% grass-fed beef brisket and it's a fuck ton of flavor.
10   HeadSet   2025 Mar 18, 7:01pm  

Tenpoundbass says

I like Gyros but only from Greek places that has the meat on the spindle and slice it as you order it.

I have never seen it any other way.
11   komputodo   2025 Mar 18, 10:26pm  

WookieMan says

Does that include sub sandwiches? An Italian sub is amazing if you go to the right place. Go to the places where the guys in there are fat as can be.

Is a gyro considered a sandwich technically? That would be my favorite.

A real GYRO made from meat on the spindle is awesome...It's a kick ass GREEK TACO. Better than a mexican taco.
An Italian panino made on crusty rustic italian bread with some capicola (gabagool), genoa salami, prosciutto, provolone, arugula and some pesto would be incredible. Better than a reuben.
12   komputodo   2025 Mar 18, 10:27pm  

Tenpoundbass says

You either make a Ruben at home, or go to a Deli known for Rubens.

Yeah the meat has to come from a real fresh cooked brisket, not a lunchmeat type of corned beef
13   komputodo   2025 Mar 18, 10:35pm  

Tenpoundbass says

I like Gyros but only from Greek places that has the meat on the spindle and slice it as you order it. Gyroville is gross.

do you pronounce it like YEE-ROW or the American way jAi-row?
14   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 19, 4:59am  

HeadSet says

I have never seen it any other way.


Some places have it already sliced, and just throw it on the grill to heat it up. Gyroville has the spindle but they slice it off ahead of time and store it in a warming drawer until you order.

komputodo says

Tenpoundbass says
I like Gyros but only from Greek places that has the meat on the spindle and slice it as you order it. Gyroville is gross.

do you pronounce it like YEE-ROW or the American way jAi-row?


My first job was working for Greeks at a diner, so I have always called it year row.
15   Patrick   2025 Mar 19, 7:44am  

I love Reubens, but could never figure out why Jewish delis would serve something obviously not kosher, because you're never supposed to mix milk and meat.
16   komputodo   2025 Mar 19, 7:54am  

Patrick says


I love Reubens, but could never figure out why Jewish delis would serve something obviously not kosher, because you're never supposed to mix milk and meat.

Because business $$$ trumps religion.
17   HeadSet   2025 Mar 19, 8:26am  

Tenpoundbass says

But Rubens always a treat.

How about the Monte Cristo with the raspberry jelly?
18   komputodo   2025 Mar 19, 8:31am  

HeadSet says

Tenpoundbass says


But Rubens always a treat.

How about the Monte Cristo with the raspberry jelly?

yeah if you are a woman
19   HeadSet   2025 Mar 19, 1:28pm  

komputodo says

yeah if you are a woman

What makes a Monte Cristo female food?
20   komputodo   2025 Mar 19, 1:40pm  

well because in my 68 years of life I have only ever heard my women friends talking about them...Never a man...If i go out to breakfast with a man, i never saw one ordering a strawberry waffle with whipped cream either.
21   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 19, 2:36pm  

HeadSet says

Tenpoundbass says
But Rubens always a treat.

How about the Monte Cristo with the raspberry jelly?


I remember Benagin's (remember them?) had a Monte Cristo on their menu. I tried it once. It was a slice of ham, turkey, and cheese(I don't recall jelly) between two slices of bread, then dipped in waffle batter and deep fried. I tried it once. I wasn't impressed because the waffle batter absorbed all of the grease and it partook the flavor of every onion ring and shrimp fried in it that week.

I tried making them one year with the left over Christmas ham and turkey, but I made in a melt style without the batter and deep frying it.
I think I preferred eating the left over holiday meat with the left over stuffing and old school macaroni and cheese casserole. And ladles and ladles of gravy, there must be gravy.
22   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 19, 2:38pm  

komputondo does mint jelly with lamb chops pass the manly smell test?
23   HeadSet   2025 Mar 19, 3:06pm  

Tenpoundbass says

mint jelly with lamb chops

When I was a kid, my mom would make that lamb with mint sauce, along with the steak and kidney pie.
24   HeadSet   2025 Mar 19, 3:08pm  

Tenpoundbass says

I remember Benagin's

They were best for their Eggs Benedict.
25   Glock-n-Load   2025 Mar 19, 6:30pm  

Wow, yessir, my top 2 favorite sandwiches…

Reubens and Monte Cristos. Done right, they are amazingly good.
26   komputodo   2025 Mar 19, 10:21pm  

Tenpoundbass says

komputondo does mint jelly with lamb chops pass the manly smell test?

I don't get the mint jelly with lamb thing..I would be more likely to have mine with horse radish or even some roasted and chopped jalapenos with salt and garlic. I also don't get the cucumber sandwich thing with the crusts cut off. Also I don't get the turkey paired with cranberry sauce thing. I would never order a chicken salad or egg salad or chopped olive sandwich either. I guess I have weird tastes in food.
27   goofus   2025 Mar 20, 5:37pm  

“ In processed meats, potassium nitrate [salpeter] reacts with hemoglobin and myoglobin generating a red color, becoming highly toxic and carcinogenic.[7]”


[7]Haldane, J. (1901). "The Red Colour of Salted Meat". The Journal of Hygiene. 1 (1): 115–122.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_nitrate

Corned beef does have uncanny reddish pink color. Had it anyway though.
28   stereotomy   2025 Mar 20, 6:24pm  

Best salt your own fresh brisket with regular salt. Less cancer, better flavor.
29   komputodo   2025 Mar 21, 8:41am  

goofus says

Corned beef does have uncanny reddish pink color. Had it anyway though.

so does ham, wieners, and most all cold cuts...
30   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2025 Mar 21, 8:48am  

goofus says

In processed meats, potassium nitrate [salpeter]

Nitrate-free processed meat products seem to be catching on. Even have some at Costco. But I think traditionally appeared jambon, prosciutto lack this carcinogen.
31   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 21, 8:54am  

But has anyone tried steaming the corned beef? That was one of the main things I wanted to hype in this thread. It was a game changer. My daughters bought me a bamboo steamer, I was worried it was going to take on a funky bamboo flavor but it didn't.
32   Tenpoundbass   2025 Mar 21, 8:55am  

I might try steaming a roast beef for cold cuts.
33   komputodo   2025 Mar 21, 9:19am  

stereotomy says


Best salt your own fresh brisket with regular salt. Less cancer, better flavor.

yeah and by all means don't cook it in aluminum or buy it if its wrapped in plastic.
If I turn a chunk of pork into ham, i use prague powder (curing salt)...If I just used salt, it would just taste like salted pork, not like ham, and also it would be brownish, grayish. To each his own.

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