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Another reason to avoid owning multiple homes unless you have somebody house-sitting or managing them weekly if not daily. This trend will only grow, if you're not there to defend your home it may go the way of squatters thanks to xiden and the leftoid loonies

What, you have something against Detroit?

mell says

if you're not there to defend your home it may go the way of squatters thanks to xiden and the leftoid loonies

What does Biden have to do with laws concerning squatter rights and (not mentioned here) adverse possession?

This is purely a state issue.

BTW, the safest places to squat are those owned by institutional holders like government and banks. This happened in a lot with repos back in 2009. You won't get kicked out usually and after several years of maintaining the property and paying property taxes, you can get the court to grant you title even.

California Squatters Rights – Everything you need to know!

Squatting is when someone occupies an uninhabited or abandoned residential property that they do not own, rent, or otherwise have permission to live in. Squatting is illegal in California, but squatters still have certain rights under California law. Here is what you need to know about squatter’s rights in California.

With the housing crisis ongoing, more and more homeless people are resorting to unlawful squatting in abandoned rental properties. It’s not unusual to find squatters taking up residence in foreclosed homes, buildings left vacant following evictions, or rentals where tenants have moved out but the owner fails to monitor the property. While sympathetic to their plight, property owners face headaches and financial burdens when their vacant rentals are illegally occupied.

Many rental properties and homeowners don’t realize the scope of the squatter problem until they find their vacant unit ransacked and damaged or unexpectedly occupied by strangers. To avoid the adverse possession claims squatters can make after living there undetected for years, owners must take preventative measures. Frequent inspections, alarm systems, security cameras, and fair housing-compliant screening processes are some of the tools owners utilize.

In California, it is illegal for someone to squat or trespass on a vacant property without the owner’s permission. A vacant property refers to any uninhabited residential building or land that is unused and unoccupied. Even if a property is vacant, squatters have no legal right to occupy the premises without authorization from the owner. Property owners have the right to take legal action to evict or remove squatters from any vacant building or land that they own. Squatters are trespassing if they move into a vacant property without the owner’s consent.

Squatting vs. Trespassing in California
Squatting and trespassing are different under California law. Trespassing is when someone enters the property without permission. Squatting involves occupying and living on the property without permission. Both are illegal, but squatting involves residing on the property while trespassing does not.

Squatting Laws in California
California has laws in place to protect property from squatters. These laws allow a property owner to quickly evict or remove squatters from their land or buildings. Squatters don’t have any legal right to occupy an uninhabited property without permission from the owner.

How Do Squatters Claim Adverse Possession in California?
In California, a squatter can try to make an “adverse possession” claim to gain legal ownership of the property they are occupying. This requires meeting specific continuous possession requirements over a 5-year period:

Hostile possession – occupying the property without permission
Actual possession – physically residing on the property
Exclusive possession – excluding all others from the property
Continuous possession – residing on the property for the entire 5-year period
Open and notorious possession – using the property openly without hiding occupancy
If these requirements are met, the squatter can file a lawsuit to claim legal ownership of the property.

https://www.jlegal.org/blog/california-squatters-rights-everything-you-need-to-know/

'safest' meaning least likely the owner will call the cops.

Among these abandoned spaces, publicly-owned buildings—particularly those which came into government possession because of the owner’s failure to pay taxes—often offer the best chance of a long-term living situation.

https://www.wikihow.com/Squat-in-Abandoned-Property

Yes, WikiHow has instructions on how to squat a property. Lovely.

UkraineIsFucked says

What does Biden have to do with laws concerning squatter rights and (not mentioned here) adverse possession?

The xiden eviction moratorium for example created a bunch of de facto squatters and encouraged leftoid states to go even further

UkraineIsFucked says

In California, a squatter can try to make an “adverse possession” claim to gain legal ownership of the property they are occupying. This requires meeting specific continuous possession requirements over a 5-year period:

Hostile possession – occupying the property without permission
Actual possession – physically residing on the property
Exclusive possession – excluding all others from the property
Continuous possession – residing on the property for the entire 5-year period
Open and notorious possession – using the property openly without hiding occupancy
If these requirements are met, the squatter can file a lawsuit to claim legal ownership of the property.

In some states, the squatter must also pay real estate taxes during that 5 years.

HeadSet says

In some states, the squatter must also pay real estate taxes during that 5 years.

That also applies to California.

Some states you have to be there for 21 years.

mell says

The xiden eviction moratorium for example created a bunch of de facto squatters

Those aren't squatters. Holdover tenants.

mell says

Another reason to avoid owning multiple homes unless you have somebody house-sitting or managing them weekly if not daily. This trend will only grow, if you're not there to defend your home it may go the way of squatters thanks to xiden and the leftoid loonies

Just wait until millennials inherit properties in blue states with squatter rights/excessive tenant rights from sick/dying boomers.

This house in DC has been occupied by squatters for over 3 years of organized crime.

In Yuma something like 2/3 of the housing is owned by snow birds. Don't have any problems with squatters I'm aware of. But we aren't a big city...

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/trading-down-wednesday-february-14

Last week, Fox ran a story headlined, “Squatter crisis hits Atlanta as property owners see homes morph into drug and prostitution dens.” This newest crisis has been quietly exploding around the country, as amoral illegals and their fellow travelers continue testing the U.S. legal system’s weaknesses. The best way to explain this one is this short but terrifyingly-realistic spoof video, published yesterday, although you could be forgiven for being fooled into thinking it is horrifyingly real. It is real. You could title the video, “How I Stole a House in Portland.”

CLIP: How I Stole a House in Portland video (1:27).

https://twitter.com/McClearyRE/status/1757533672796979678

As a lawyer, I can say everything in that video was accurate, and even more likely to happen in places like Portland where they have ridiculous “squatter’s rights” laws.

The good news is that, outside Portland (and the Blue States), legislators are already reacting. News 4 Jacksonville ran a story last week headlined, “Florida bill to address squatting approved by Senate committee but not without opposition.” (As it happens, I helped some with drafting this bill.) The bill would allow police to remove squatters even though they claim to have leases (with treble damages against landlords that lie).

Although hysterically opposed by shrieking leftwing activist groups, the squatters bill passed a Florida Senate committee last week 7-1.

Back in Georgia, the squatter situation in Atlanta is so bad that Local News WBTV-2 found a $500 Instagram “service” that said it would get you the keys and a fake lease for any rental house in Atlanta. They reported the illegal service last week in a story headlined, “‘This is stealing’ Channel 2 goes undercover as Instagram account lets you squat in metro homes.”

But, like Florida, Georgia already has a bill working its way through this year’s legislative session that would give cops tools to use against squatters, and would make falsifying a lease a separate criminal charge.

Blue States actually have laws going the other way: protecting the rights of people squatting in other folks’ houses. Fixing ‘squatters rights’ laws is going to take a lot longer and be much more difficult in those Blue States. In other words, the self-inflicted punishment of the Blue States is only getting started.

KommieKunt Konfiscation of private property. The squatters are deputies of the Kommisars.

Patrick says

CLIP: How I Stole a House in Portland video (1:27).

https://twitter.com/McClearyRE/status/1757533672796979678

Them squatters have taken over the Eccles Building.

I love the company that sells bogus leases and the keys. Talk about entrepreneurship!

Bet the firm is a Realtor who has access to the lock boxes to get the keys, too.

GAR probably won't push to yank the guy's RE license, either.

"Now Is A Good Time To Squat" means something totally different in Georgia than it does in Uttar Pradesh.

SSS

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/squat-on-this-thursday-march-28-2024

Florida’s new law, effective immediately, lets homeowners call the county sheriff for immediate squatter removal. It made squatting into a second-degree felony, along with intentionally damaging someone else’s home (more than $1,000 worth), and it’s now a first-degree felony to sell or lease someone else’s property. It made forging a fake lease into a first-degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to a year of jail. The bill also makes courts expedite any squatter-related civil proceedings, in case the sheriff can’t figure out who’s telling the truth or something.

The fact the anti-squatter bill passed unanimously revealed much about the country’s unhappy and increasingly implacable mood. I met with a local candidate this week who asked me if I thought the open border was a deliberate strategy cooked up by some secret cabal of our enemies. “Only if they are brain-damaged,” I answered.

If they are buying open-border votes, the political cost of this migrant invasion is already incalculably high and is just getting higher.

Blue state readers, while happy for Floridians, I’m sure, remain chagrined over their own poor prospects for fighting the squatting scourge. But take hope! WRE News ran a story late last week headlined, “Bill Introduced to Remove Squatter Rights in New York.” State Assemblyman Jake Blumencranz (R) filed a very simple bill re-defining the term “tenants” under New York law to specifically exclude “squatters.” That would let New York police act immediately against home invading squatters, who currently enjoy the vast protections of New York’s insanely generous tenant protection laws.

The simple way Assemblyman Blumencranz drafted his bill is pretty genius. It makes things very uncomplicated. New York democrats now must publicly choose whether or not house-stealing squatters are, indeed, “tenants” who deserve the same legal protections as people with valid leases.

If Florida is any indication, there may not be much argument. And if it can happen in New York, it can happen anywhere. Well. Maybe not California. Or Portland. Definitely not Portland.

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Colorado has one of the best anti squatting laws where you can get them removed by the police in 24 hours if they cannot provide a legal lease.

Florida also just signed into law a very tough anti squatting law.

I see California is being very clever now dealing with squatters.

The thing is , you should put an ADT or Simplisafe (or other 24/7 system) alarm system so that if a squatter gets in, the police will show up before the squatter starts to "settle in the home".

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https://www.newsweek.com/california-squatter-crisis-landlord-property-tenants-1883256#:~:text=Lando%20Thomas%2C%20one%20of%20the,illegal%20tenants%20from%20homeowners'%20properties.

Patrick says

State Assemblyman Jake Blumencranz (R) filed a very simple bill re-defining the term “tenants” under New York law to specifically exclude “squatters.”

I am not able to find the specific language that defines the difference between a tenant and a squatter. Jake's bill may not mean much unless tenants are defined such as "have a certified lease and cleared payments of a security deposit and first month lease." Otherwise, anyone occupying the property can be a "tenant" by a judge.

Patrick says

New York democrats now must publicly choose whether or not house-stealing squatters are, indeed, “tenants” who deserve the same legal protections as people with valid leases.

Not a problem with Dems. Remember, the Dems unanimously voted to fund Biden flying illegals into and around the country. Same attitude.

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Bet the firm is a Realtor who has access to the lock boxes to get the keys, too.

I've broken into probably 300 properties. The hacks are there. All were legal. Whether it be a lockbox or a front door. Never called a locksmith.

Chair under the door is the only way you'd stop me.... but that's just one door. I'll get in your house without noise or breaking glass. I have no interest in taking from anyone, but learned it in the foreclosure/REO market during the housing crash. We had legal authority to break in. If we saved the owner/bank $200 on a locksmith we did it and got more listings.

Needless to say we did well in the shittiest real estate market of anyone's lifetime.

AD says

Colorado has one of the best anti squatting laws where you can get them removed by the police in 24 hours if they cannot provide a legal lease.

That puts the police into the position of deciding what is a legal lease or not. And if they fuck up, which many will, the city can be sued up the ass.

This why many cities don't allow their cops to go anywhere near that. All it would take is one mistake and INSTA lawsuit.

AD says

The thing is , you should put an ADT or Simplisafe (or other 24/7 system) alarm system so that if a squatter gets in, the police will show up before the squatter starts to "settle in the home".

Many will have their fake leases on hand already.

https://notthebee.com/article/this-real-estate-agent-for-squatters-sketch-is-the-funniest-thing-youll-see-today