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The rabbit hole is too deep and too ineffably horrible/psychotic/depraved for the public's Overton stretch. There is unlikely to be any forensically useful source evidence that has not been tampered with as booby traps by CIA/Mossad/MI6 etc. etc., and the operations have been shifted to ongoing operations anyway into other venues that don't have the publicity spotlight. In other words, business as usual and there is no reason for Trump to get stuck on the tar baby.

So, now the whole affair has been twisted into a MSM Mockingbird parody with a three ring circus of crazy liberals, professional media and legal extortionists, and raving Congressional hit men.

The Epstein publicity has turned into a great disinformation cover for all of the Intel assets still honey potting and pedovoring/blackmailing someplace else without the cynosures of press examination. It sounds the alarm so all the police go to the site while they have free reign to rob the jewelry stores. Nobody even thinks of Epstein as being the tip of the Intel iceberg, they think it is the whole game.

Jizzlaine Lite Actress demonstrates they will deconstruct it into tawdry, shallow soap opera, maybe to resurrected from time to time as a publicity zombie.

The Jewish mafia in the US was a big funder of Israel early on.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/gangsters-for-zion

Shortly thereafter, Siegel came in. He sat opposite Dafni and asked him to tell why he was in Los Angeles. As Dafni relates, “I told him my story, how the Haganah was raising money to buy weapons with which to fight. When I finished, Siegel asked, ‘You mean to tell me Jews are fighting?’ Yes, I replied. Then Siegel, who was sitting across the table, leaned forward till his nose was almost touching mine. ‘You mean fighting, as in killing?’ Yes, I answered. Siegel leaned back, looked at me for a moment and said, ‘OK, I’m with you.’ ”

“From then on,” recalled Dafni, “Every week I got a phone call to go to the restaurant. And every week I received a suitcase filled with $5 and $10 bills. The payments continued till I left Los Angeles.” Dafni estimates that Siegel gave him a total of $50,000.

Later that year, Dafni was in a hotel in San Francisco. He went down for breakfast and bought a newspaper. The headline declared that Bugsy Siegel had been killed in Virginia Hill’s mansion. Dafni mused, “Thank God I took cash and not a check.”

https://mintpressnews.cn/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

The report, titled “Shapiro Homicide Investigation: Analysis and Hypothesis,” names Leslie Wexner as linked “with associates reputed to be organized crime figures” ...

The report also noted that Arthur Shapiro’s law firm — Schwartz, Shapiro, Kelm & Warren — represented Wexner’s company, The Limited, and states that “prior to his death, Arthur Shapiro managed this account [The Limited] for the law firm.” It also noted that, at the time of his death, Shapiro “was the subject of an investigation by the Internal Revenue Service because he had failed to file income tax returns for some seven years prior to his death, and he had invested in some questionable tax shelters.” It also stated that his death prevented Shapiro from his planned testimony at a grand jury hearing about these “questionable tax shelters.”

Maybe Epstein was also killed so that he could not talk about tax evasion.

https://mintpressnews.cn/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

The “Mega” Mystery and the Mossad

In May 1997, the Washington Post broke an explosive story — long since forgotten — based on an intercepted phone call made between a Mossad official in the U.S. and his superior in Tel Aviv that discussed the Mossad’s efforts to obtain a secret U.S. government document. According to the Post, the Mossad official stated during the phone call that “Israeli Ambassador Eliahu Ben Elissar had asked him whether he could obtain a copy of the letter given to [Palestinian leader Yasser] Arafat by [then-Secretary of State Warren] Christopher on Jan. 16, the day after the Hebron accord was signed by Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu.”

The Post article continued:

According to a source who viewed a copy of the NSA transcript of the conversation, the intelligence officer, speaking in Hebrew, said, ‘The ambassador wants me to go to Mega to get a copy of this letter.’ The source said the supervisor in Tel Aviv rejected the request, saying, ‘This is not something we use Mega for.’”

The leaked communication led to an investigation that sought to identify an individual code-named “Mega” that the Post said “may be someone in the U.S. government who has provided information to the Israelis in the past,” a concern that subsequently spawned a fruitless FBI investigation. The Mossad later claimed that “Mega” was merely a codeword for the U.S.’ CIA, but the FBI and NSA were unconvinced by that claim ...

Almost one year to the day after the “Mega” spy scandal broke, the Wall Street Journal was the first outlet to report on the existence of a little-known organization of billionaires that was “informally” called the Mega Group and had been founded years prior in 1991. The report made no mention of the spy scandal that had spread concerns of Israeli espionage in the U.S. only a year prior. However, the group’s distinctive “informal” name and the connections of its members to the Mossad and to high-ranking Israeli politicians, including prime ministers, raise the possibility that “Mega” was not an individual, as the FBI and NSA had believed, but a group.

https://mintpressnews.cn/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

Around this time, Maxwell was approached by British intelligence outfit MI6 and offered a position that Maxwell ultimately declined. MI6 then classified him as “Zionist — loyal only to Israel” and made him a person of interest. He later became an agent of the Mossad, according to several books including Robert Maxwell: Israel’s Superspy by Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon. Furthermore, Seymour Hersh’s The Samson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy alleges ties between Maxwell and Israeli intelligence.

According to Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad case officer:

Mossad was financing many of its operations in Europe from money stolen from Maxwell’s newspaper pension fund. They got their hands on the funds almost as soon as Maxwell made the purchase of the Mirror Newspaper Group with money lent to him by Mossad.”

https://mintpressnews.cn/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

Whereas the Mossad’s past reliance on gathering intelligence had relied on the same tactics used by its equivalents in the U.S. and elsewhere, the widespread adoption of the Promis software, largely through the actions of Earl Brian and Robert Maxwell, gave the Mossad a way to gather not just troves of counterintelligence data, but also blackmail on other intelligence agencies and powerful figures.

Indeed, Promis’ backdoor and adoption by intelligence agencies all over the world essentially provided the Mossad with access to troves of blackmail that the CIA and FBI had acquired on their friends and foes for over half a century. Strangely, in recent years, the FBI has sought to hide information related to Robert Maxwell’s connection to the Promis scandal.

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/jun/28/sir-robert-maxwells-fbi-PROMIS/

https://mintpressnews.cn/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

Then there is the issue of Maxwell’s death, widely cited by mainstream and independent media alike as suspicious and a potential homicide. According to authors Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon, Maxwell had sealed his own fate when he attempted to threaten top Mossad officials with the exposure of certain operations if they did not help him rescue his media empire from crippling debt and financial difficulties. Many of Maxwell’s creditors, who had grown increasingly displeased with the media mogul, were Israeli and several of them were alleged to be Mossad-connected themselves.

Thomas and Dillon argue in their biography of Maxwell’s life that the Mossad felt that Maxwell had become more of a liability than an asset and killed him on his yacht three months after he demanded the bailout.

https://www.newspapers.com/article/st-louis-post-dispatch-donald-trump-and/9383143/

Patrick says

Almost one year to the day after the “Mega” spy scandal broke, the Wall Street Journal was the first outlet to report on the existence of a little-known organization of billionaires that was “informally” called the Mega Group and had been founded years prior in 1991.

The SPECTRE-plex of fake, coined 'billionaire' executives, given unlimited liquidity and credit by the Rothschilds and City of London to take over market segments and invade politics. The oligarchs aren't 'self made', they are political and financial constructs with marching orders.

Life amongst the gangsters. Maxwell double triple quadruple agencied himself to death, trying to outsmart his bosses. They could have bailed him out financially easily, because most of these 'kingdoms' are based on vapor, anyway, and are made to be unraveled with credit needs. Instead of going quietly, Maxwell plundered his employees' retirement funds.
Patrick says

Many of Maxwell’s creditors, who had grown increasingly displeased with the media mogul, were Israeli and several of them were alleged to be Mossad-connected themselves.

LOL!

"If you don't do what we say, we will release Auntie Lindsay on you in open ass chaps and a tutu."

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the elephant in the room or in this case in Epstein's cell block

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#Mossad_allegations;_Vanunu_case

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What's the Statute of Limitations on pimping out friends for $200 gift cards?

Don't we charge 16-17 year olds as adults for crimes?

Photo Op for the Left.

1 epstein victim sold her sister to him.

2 epstein victim sold her friends to him.

The sellers went to the press conference.

The actual victims did not.

Tells you everything you need to know.
https://x.com/0HOUR1__/status/1963321819538092173

Where was this energy during the Xiden Administration?

MASSIE: “Survivors at our press conference announced they are privately compiling their own Epstein list.
They would be sued into homelessness for naming names, but @RepMTG and I are willing to name names in the House of Representatives under Constitutional “speech or debate” immunity.”

Source: Thomas Massie (X) @RepThomasMassie

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

What's the Statute of Limitations on pimping out friends for $200 gift cards?

Don't we charge 16-17 year olds as adults for crimes?

Why isn't the DOJ jumping on the opportunity?

RWSGFY says

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

What's the Statute of Limitations on pimping out friends for $200 gift cards?

Don't we charge 16-17 year olds as adults for crimes?

Why isn't the DOJ jumping on the opportunity?

Because I don't think (me) there is an opportunity. There's data and evidence over 20 years on this. Stuff happened for sure, but we'll never get names besides flight logs.

Think about it, one door man, maintenance person, boat operator, etc. never assumed or saw anything? I'm talking the blue collar jobs. The cleaner. The IT guy for the supposed cameras. There are so many points of unintentional discovery and not one talked or saw anything?

I think everyone's dreams are going to be dashed by the promise of justice. Epstein is dead. Maxwell talked and said nothing basically. For those hoping for blood and names, I think the mission might be over.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

1 epstein victim sold her sister to him.

2 epstein victim sold her friends to him.

The sellers went to the press conference.

The actual victims did not.

Yes, from reading details in "Filthy Rich", it looks like most of the girls were recruited by other girls in a kind of pyramid scheme, with Ghislaine as top madam. There was a sliding payment scale depending on how much the girls allowed Epstein and the others to do. And they were generally poor girls from about 5 miles west of Palm Beach. And their fathers were generally absent or clueless.

But the customers are ultimately to blame for turning teen girls into prostitutes. And it was definitely not just Epstein.

It's still statutory rape.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

They would be sued into homelessness for naming names

It's all useless without the names.

One clever bit on Epstein's part was in targeting girls who were so young that they simply would not know who most of the guys were.

Patrick says

But the customers are ultimately to blame for turning teen girls into prostitutes. And it was definitely not just Epstein.

I disagree. This is the 19th Century Sentimentalism.

While we should and do hold Johns/Drug Addicts culpable, the Recruiters and Participants/Drug Lords are also culpable.

Patrick says

One clever bit on Epstein's part was in targeting girls who were so young that they simply would not know who most of the guys were.

Most of them were apparently over the age of consent, and there's some evidence the handful recruited younger than that were told by older girls to lie about their age.

Traci Lords

"Filthy Rich" documents that the large majority were under the age of consent.

This is why the Palm Beach police department did such an extensive investigation. Literally at least 450 under the age of consent, all very thoroughly documented because they want to build a very strong case.

The police department evidence was ignored by Kreischer the FL State Attorney, and Epstein was given a ridiculously light sentence which did not even require him to be present in prison during the day.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

I disagree. This is the 19th Century Sentimentalism.

While we should and do hold Johns/Drug Addicts culpable, the Recruiters and Participants/Drug Lords are also culpable.

No, the law is very clear that the culpability is entirely with the adults fucking minors.

And the age difference in all cases was truly vast, 50 to 70 year olds fucking 15 year olds.

WookieMan says

Think about it, one door man, maintenance person, boat operator, etc. never assumed or saw anything? I'm talking the blue collar jobs. The cleaner. The IT guy for the supposed cameras. There are so many points of unintentional discovery and not one talked or saw anything?

@WookieMan

They all saw and knew what was going on, including the cleaner, the IT guy, the maids, the cooks.

They just wanted to keep getting paid, except for one very Catholic Hispanic maid who couldn't take it and quit.

Again, it's well documented.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1963251546386259984

Incestuous, much? Satanic Ritual Abuse rape of daughters, so that such practices appear 'normal', seem to be a nom de plume of the 'elites'.

Patrick says

And their fathers were generally absent or clueless.

Not a knock, but you finally got to the crux of the whole thing. Fatherless kids and this doesn't happen.

This is going to be grotesque. I'm not a criminal. There's nothing stopping me from taking a girl, doing what I want in St. Thomas or St. John, leaving her and coming back home. They'll just stay.

I could fly Southwest and just because she's on the same flight wouldn't incriminate me. I wouldn't give my real name to her. Take her to the Westin on St. John, get her some booze and bang. Wake up at 4am and I'm out.

What Epstein got caught for was the transfer and got the fee. The island was just to keep the girls happy. It didn't happen there. As I've said it's not a nice island and there are way better spots in the USVI and BVI. Maxwell and Epstein just got them down there. House them in casitas (look at sat images) and then pawned/sold them off. Payment was made through his investment fund, so not traceable for sex. No passports. It's sick but probably the most perfect illegal scheme ever concocted. They got caught moving humans against their will. Some were likely better off in the long run, hence limited accusations for supposedly 1k girls.

https://youtu.be/TA8KsY5VRa4

Patrick says

No, the law is very clear that the culpability is entirely with the adults fucking minors.

No. 16 is the age of consent and prostitutes that age have routinely been charged until 3rd wave feminism.

16-19 year old girls KNOW it's criminal to pimp others out for pay and to get paid for sexual activity.

"Poor Girls" my ass. Palm Beach has plenty of Middle/Upper class people.

Check out Giuffre's earlier 90s police interactions, before she met Epstein/Maxwell. Pattern already

The_Deplorable says

This whole thing is mostly an op.

Desperate Dems and the Koch Bros Right are working together because they get traction to divide the right on this issue, and hopefully defame some big Donors that are going along with America First MAGA (the Trump original, not the Qatar version).

There's no Trump or Dersh connection, but they hopefully can smear some donors.

You want Tariffs, Border Security, and MAGA, or do you want Free Trade, Mass Migration, and a few Middle Aged Skanks getting a payday for being skanks who recruited other skanks in their teens?

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

You want Tariffs, Border Security, and MAGA, or do you want Free Trade, Mass Migration, and a few Middle Aged Skanks getting a payday for being skanks who recruited other skanks in their teens?

You're talking to walls. Trump did make a mistake with Epstein files, but I really don't think people understand everything. We have 3-5 victims out of thousands all a sudden. Single digits. No, they couldn't be looking to make a buck off this or their attorney from the estate? That's never happened before...

This isn't last year. This is 20+ years people. Epstein was in jail in the early 2000's. "Ah we got'em, no further investigation needed." Oh wait he was put back in prison in the late 2010's. 2019. That's already 6 years ago. I will admittedly eat shit if I'm wrong, But I don't think there is anything there so to speak. While disgusting, there are way worse crimes than sex with a 14 year old. I mean people kill other people, that should be a priority. Ultimately child sex abuse is on the parents at the end of the day. Watch and care for your kid.

Ceffer says

Incestuous, much? Satanic Ritual Abuse rape of daughters, so that such practices appear 'normal', seem to be a nom de plume of the 'elites'.

How did we jump from
"no shoes on my carpet"* to "incestous"?

*) no matter how do we feel about the whole carpeted yacht idea :barf:

WookieMan says

Ultimately child sex abuse is on the parents at the end of the day. Watch and care for your kid.

Yep. That Giuffre police report, people should read it.

In 2001, Giuffre was 18 years old. She ran away repeatedly in her early teens, years before Epstein, was caught in the backseat as early as 14 with local guys smoking weed, she also was an escort and lived with an Eppinger who ran "Perfect 10" model agency.

Like most dumb Girldads, her father helped get her a job at the Mar-A-Lago but wouldn't believe his little girl was probably well over 50 bodies by 18
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59974220

Females have NO problem trading sex for goodies, 100k years of evolution to trade nookie for coconuts or fresh pork, which is why it's dumb to buy the cow.

Heed the wisdom of the Steel Panther:
https://youtu.be/bkV0M1qbkcw?t=167

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

No. 16 is the age of consent and prostitutes that age have routinely been charged until 3rd wave feminism.

It's 18 for this case:

In Florida, the age of consent is 18 years old. This means that individuals under 18 are generally deemed incapable of giving valid consent to sexual activities.

However, there is a close-in-age exemption, also known as the "Romeo and Juliet law," which allows minors aged 16 or 17 to engage in sexual intercourse with a partner no older than 23.

But Epstein and all his clients were in their 50's at least.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

"Poor Girls" my ass. Palm Beach has plenty of Middle/Upper class people.

Yes, Palm Beach does have rich people, but almost all the girls were from high schools in poorer neighborhoods about 5 miles west of Palm Beach.