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What Is Going On In Israel Now And What Happens Going Forward


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2023 Oct 11, 5:24am   10,396 views  115 comments

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#israelicrisis Two of our readers are in Israel and still safe. They have had to go down to the bomb shelter of their hotel a few times when enemy rockets came in. My prayers are with them.
Since early Saturday morning, the situation in Israel has had my undivided attention. My "go-to" person who seems to understand the situation better than anyone else and its implications is Chris Cuomo. His family is political royalty in New York State. His dad was governor of New York. His brother was governor of New York State. Chris has worked as a very accomplished television journalist for decades. He is now on the News Nation Network. His show is broadcast at 17:00 and 21:00 Pacific time.
Chris is currently in Israel. He has brought out some surprising facts. First, some 100,000 US citizens live in Israel. Please reflect on this. My reading of this number is that the US is going to get drawn into what happens in Israel during this crisis. President Biden is publicly taking a calm and conciliatory attitude about this crisis. In private I am sure that he acts and talks differently.
Israel has a vibrant and brilliant high-technology industry. 1/5 of Israel's GDP comes from technology earnings. There is a claim that Israel has more high-tech startups than we have in Silicon Valley.
With all this technical prowess, Israel built a wall to separate it from the Gaza Strip. It is a brilliant metal fence with all sorts of electronic sensors and constant drone surveillance. It is far more advanced than anything we have built or will build along the Mexican border.
Hamas defeated this wall. They flew over it with paragliders. They defeated the electronic sensors. They knocked big holes in this fence and drove vehicles through them. I suspect that they spent two years preparing for this incursion. I am also sure that they had help from both Iran and Russia to come up with a plan to defeat this wall.
Your morning newspaper has an excellent article on why Israeli security forces and advanced technology failed. It is a profound warning for the US.
This morning there are many reports of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip rushing to overwhelm the Egyptian border to flee to that country. The resources do not exist in Egypt to handle such a huge influx of refugees.
Israel has set out the goal of eradicating Hamas. The Hamas people hide in tunnels and among civilians in the Gaza Strip. There will be a huge loss of life to achieve this goal.
Thus far, Hezbollah on Israel's other borders has remained quiet. This will not be the case as the hostilities continue. We are heading toward a direct conflict between Israel and Iran.
My advice to Israel and US military planners is to bring in some excellent military advisors from Ukraine. Some unconventional tactics and weapons are going to have to be used. One hint is that Iran has a serious Achilles Heel. Four refineries refine all the oil that they sell for massive foreign exchange earnings. If those 4 oil refineries were taken offline permanently, Iran's economy would collapse. Let your imagination run wild. I was once involved in a high-level war gaming group that looked at an Israeli attack on Iran to destroy its nuclear weapons program.

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1   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 11, 6:36am  

The Comos are about as credible as the guy with a pillow leaning over an old lady in her slumber about to snuff her life out.
Ask the rat bastard what did he do with all of those respirators Trump sent him. Fuck both of those assholes.
2   Shaman   2023 Oct 11, 6:44am  

When the OP leads with a paragraph on the virtues of the Cuomo brothers, you know his opinion is going to be garbage.
3   Robert Sproul   2023 Oct 11, 7:35am  

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4   RayAmerica   2023 Oct 11, 8:00am  

ohomen171 says

My "go-to" person who seems to understand the situation better than anyone else and its implications is Chris Cuomo.

I'm sure he was your 'go to' guy on the COVID experimental 'vaccine' as well, right?
5   Misc   2023 Oct 11, 8:03am  

Hamas's stated goal is to kill every Jew. That will be reciprocated. I think that the IDF is going to hunt down and kill every single member of Hamas (maybe with the same zeal they hunted down Nazis).

Yep, there is going to be a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. The Israelis have turned off the power (which means no water too), cut off food imports and no more fuel.

I think that Hamas pushed Israel over the edge this time. There will be no quarter given.
6   NuttBoxer   2023 Oct 11, 9:08am  

Most people's perspective on this is incredibly one-sided, and lock-step with mainstream propaganda sources they've derided for years. Before you call for blood, watch some videos of what has already been done to the people living there, mostly children. This is an unspeakable evil, and our government is a direct supporter of it.

Shame on all of you calling for more bloodshed.
7   Patrick   2023 Oct 26, 10:28am  

ohomen171 says

The Hamas people hide in tunnels and among civilians in the Gaza Strip.


https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/low-tech-thursday-october-26-2023


Information is starting to trickle out about how Hamas outsmarted Israel’s crackerjack intelligence agencies. On Tuesday, the New York Post ran a story headlined, “Hamas used landline phones in Gaza tunnels to evade Israeli intelligence for 2 years while plotting attack: report.”




Hamas’ vast concrete and metal-reinforced tunnel network, dubbed the “Gaza metro” by Israeli Defense Forces, runs for over 300 combined miles underneath Gaza, allowing the terror group to hide, plot, store supplies, move fighters, weaponry and supplies undetected throughout the region, and carve their initials into the concrete walls. The tunnels are highly sophisticated, offering all the comforts of a terrorist’s home: power, air conditioning, cement roads, rail systems, and apparently, a completely-independent, secure, analog phone system that cannot be monitored by Israeli intelligence.



8   Ceffer   2023 Oct 26, 11:48am  

Can we be sure ohomen isn't the 'meme guy'? Can we be really, really sure?

9   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 26, 2:16pm  

Patrick says


Hamas’ vast concrete and metal-reinforced tunnel network, dubbed the “Gaza metro” by Israeli Defense Forces, runs for over 300 combined miles underneath Gaza


Wait, this must be a lie. As we all know Palis in Gaza have been starved of any means to build a better life for themselves and now you're saying the had means to build a fucking metro?

Also, how come civilians are not allowed to hide there from Zionist terror bombings?

Something doesn't add up.
10   Robber Baron Elite Scum   2023 Oct 26, 2:34pm  

I support Israel fully.

Hamas are the real terrorists.

Many Muslims live peacefully in Israel with nobody or any Jew bothering them for that matter.

Hamas is calling for genocide of Jews.

Anybody that supports Hamas are scum!
11   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 26, 2:37pm  

Robber Baron Elite Scum says

Many Muslims live peacefully in Israel with nobody or any Jew bothering them for that matter.


So much for the "apartheid state".
12   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 26, 3:00pm  

America is suffering from an identity crisis. We worry about every country in the world over Geopolitcal Shitstorms, that our installed Dictators creates around the world While just brushing aside our very own major problems and clash of invading cultures telling us we're racist if we don't put them first.

My position is we need to get the fuck out of those shitholes we created, tell them play nice or die angry. But you're on your own. Then hang every US employee that helped created the shit. Then make this chapter the preface to every American Highschool book just before Plymouth Rock, going forward.

When has a Palestinian ever said "Free the J6 persecuted Trump supporters"? Trick question, they never would. When has Isreal ever shown any concern over the communist creep taking over this nation? That's right and they never will! Ukriane can suck my DICK, it's a great country if Putin can keep it.
13   socal2   2023 Oct 26, 4:32pm  

Some people are finally getting smart - rightfully calling out major league sport's support of BLM who are also supportive of Hamas/ISIS.

Hamas' barbarity this month gives us a real chance to shine a bright light and roll back alot of the Woke fever (and "intersectionality") that took over this country after George Floyd.

https://twitter.com/cjvalues/status/1717561187485823470
14   Eric Holder   2023 Oct 26, 5:42pm  

Tenpoundbass says

J6 persecuted Trump supporters


About that... did The Donald chip in a single penny for their legal defense? Having a good lawyer makes a shitload of differense when being prosecuted and these people who fell on the sword for him need every bit of help they can get. The promise of pardon is nice and swell but by the time it's even possible it will be Jan 21, 2025.
15   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 26, 8:42pm  

Eric Holder says


did The Donald chip in a single penny for their legal defense?


He shouldn't have to, The blame lays solely on the Speaker of the house even allowing it. Especially McCrappy for not investigating it and suppressing exculpatory evidence.

Eric Holder says


Having a good lawyer makes a shitload of differense when being prosecuted


Yeah tell that to all of Trump's lawyers that had to cop a plea deal over a witch hunt trial. The J6 rally goers even though their hearts were in the right place, were foolish to even go. I seriously was thinking about going, until I considered that I could have my head blown off by a BLM or Antifa spook and nothing would come of it. I didn't expect Nancy Pelosi to employ the FBI and CIA to set everyone up to catch Marxist Persecution rap. That never even entered my mind.
16   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 26, 8:44pm  

Ans like said, Israel and Palestine can suck my dick, fuck them we got our own poblems to sort out. What wu wu did you think you're rant was going to sweeten the pot? Fuck them in their "Not my Problem" ass!
17   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 26, 9:17pm  

With attitude like that nobody will show up for him on Jan 6, 2025 if it comes to that. Because "they shouldn't have to".

I don't care whose fault it is or who should have done what, but a dude with a bunch of billions in his war chest could throw some cash to people rotting in jail because they stood up when he called.

I bet most of them relied on "public defenders" and we all know this is a shitty proposition.
18   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 26, 9:20pm  

Nancy Pelosi belongs in a prison along side Liz Cheney, for the ciminally insane awaiting execution by firing squad. McCrappy couldl have undone every last bit of what She and he cohort did.McCrappy did more to protect them from that fate, than to protect the American people and our constitution. He fought tooth and nail to prevent a sensible Speaker of the House that would consider righting that wrong. I'm sure to protect his hand in the treason as well.
You can't lawyer up against these Demons they'll chew them up and spit them out. You have to just keep fighting like hell and growing in numbers until they are outnumbered and done in. The day of reckoning is coming for these sorry rotten Bastards. Every last one of them! Legal defense would have been useless.
19   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 26, 9:24pm  

And by the way if History has the last word. Every persecuted J6'er and the the families of those they killed or deceased due to the legal woes. Will end up with hefty settlements. Their ship will come it. It may take a while but they will see millions each before a single Black Democrat voter ever sees one red cent of Reparation money.
20   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 26, 9:28pm  

RWSGFY says

I don't care whose fault it is or who should have done what, but a dude with a bunch of billions in his war chest could throw some cash to people rotting in jail because they stood up when he called.

Had he done that, he would caught every legal recourse that the Democrats didn't get for bailing out murders, looters and arsonists. It's just how they operate. Everything is a trap with Commie Mother Fuckers. The consequeces of their Deflect and Project is real.
21   AD   2023 Oct 26, 9:49pm  

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/eu-calls-humanitarian-pauses-gaza-aid-israel-raids-enclave-2023-10-26/

two American F-16's dropped precision guided bombs on "Iranian-backed" forces in Syria today

I would like to see them use the F-35 for an attack role as they marketed it as stealth and also joint fighter and attack aircraft

think of all that US taxpayer money for the F-35 program since it started around the late 1990s

I guess they are holding back use of the F-35 for more demanding missions .. they should at least have F-35s deployed on the aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean

..
22   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 27, 6:09am  

ad says

the F-35


The F-35 is nothing more than Air Show jet. When you see all of the grift today, it's not hard to realize why the F-35 plagued with nothing but problems in development. Then you can understand that there's no fucking way the clowns in charge, ever fixed it and made it right. Every cent to do so, was probably diverted to get Obama elected in 2008.
23   Onvacation   2023 Oct 27, 7:41am  

Eric Holder says

shitload of differense

Are you blaming Trump for the jailing of his supporters?
24   komputodo   2023 Oct 27, 8:17am  

ohomen171 says

My "go-to" person who seems to understand the situation better than anyone else and its implications is Chris Cuomo. His family is political royalty in New York State. His dad was governor of New York. His brother was governor of New York State.

yeah just like beyonce and rihanna are our Queens
25   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 27, 8:29am  

Onvacation says


Eric Holder says


shitload of differense

Are you blaming Trump for the jailing of his supporters?



This is a weird conclusion from the post you quoted. Obviosly, Trump is blamed for not helping people who stuck their necks out for him and now being persecuted. He definitely has the means to help with their legal expenses, at least partially. It would send a powerful message.
26   komputodo   2023 Oct 27, 8:29am  

Eric Holder says

Having a good lawyer makes a shitload of differense when being prosecuted and these people who fell on the sword for him need every bit of help they can get.

are there any good lawyers that would be willing to defend them knowing what they are up against with our "new" legal system and risk ruining their careers?
27   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 27, 8:30am  

komputodo says

Eric Holder says


Having a good lawyer makes a shitload of differense when being prosecuted and these people who fell on the sword for him need every bit of help they can get.

are there any good lawyers that would be willing to defend them knowing what they are up against with our "new" legal system and risk ruining their careers?


No idea, but you don't know until you try.
28   komputodo   2023 Oct 27, 8:40am  

NuttBoxer says

Shame on all of you calling for more bloodshed.

those that want more bloodshed are those that don't have the balls to actually fight themselves
29   komputodo   2023 Oct 27, 8:41am  

RWSGFY says

No idea, but you don't know until you try.

try what? hiring a big time legal firm? how do you know that they haven't?
30   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 27, 8:43am  

komputodo says


RWSGFY says


No idea, but you don't know until you try.

try what? hiring a big time legal firm? how do you know that they haven't?



Pay legal expenses of J6 people rotting in jail. If he did, why would keep something like that under wraps? As I said, doing so sends a powerful message. Not doing it also sends a powerful message. So which one is it? Looks like it's "thank you for showing up when I needed you, now you are on your own".
31   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 27, 8:45am  

RWSGFY says

This is a weird conclusion from the post you quoted. Obviosly, Trump is blamed for not helping people who stuck their necks out for him and now being persecuted. He definitely has the means to help with their legal expenses, at least partially. It would send a powerful message.


Can you name one single Obama Judge that would even give a high powered lawyer a fair shake without persecuting him and destroying his career?

I don't think you have been paying attention. We're past the legal state, there is no legitimate court system in our country at this point. We're in wait mode, for the rest of America to wake up. It's still a long road ahead, and even Trump's chances of making it past the Primaries without being incarcerated, and then some Judge arbitrarily siding with Perkie Coie to remove Trump from the Ballot is a 50% chance. Then if he makes it past that there's a 60% chance the election will be stolen with a magnitude of fraud 10X the 2020 election. The only thing that will save us from that fate is people in Blue Cities who are State Sanctioned head busters, to wake up and bust some fucking heads at the polling stations, chasing the Woke Election Fixers out, when they try to tape up the windows, and run the elections fairly. Because the chance of election integrity making it past our compromised Obama Marxist Judges is NILL.

You're dreaming if you think Trump could hire Lawyers. Just look at the long exhaustive list of Lawyers he's gone through. Giuliani has been ruined. If our courts were still functioning. Giuliani would have been Trump's lawyer at ever turn and won every case. He would be everything that Morgan and Morgan thinks they are.
32   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 27, 8:49am  

More over you do realize there were multiple Go Fund Me and other source funding sites that raised millions for all of their defense. But the J6 committee yes the Liz Cheney Persecution Committee seized all of that money and declared it illegal. There was a big uproar over how Kamala Harris could back ANTIFA and BLM thugs, but nobody could pay the legal bills of the J6 persecuted victims.
I think your News Retention memory only runs from Nightly News to Nightly News.
33   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 27, 8:53am  

Trump's lawyers at this point are nameless nobodies. Why would a guy of his power and stature hire un-notable lawyers?
34   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 27, 8:53am  

Tenpoundbass says

More over you do realize there were multiple Go Fund Me and other source funding sites that raised millions for all of their defense. But the J6 committee yes the Liz Cheney Persecution Committee seized all of that money and declared it illegal. There was a big uproar over how Kamala Harris could back ANTIFA and BLM thugs, but nobody could pay the legal bills of the J6 persecuted victims.
I think your News Retention memory only runs from Nightly News to Nightly News.


I don't give a fuck about gofundmes. It's not coming from Trump, it's coming from regular working stiffs. And if Trump was paying for legal defense of J6 people it would not be possible to "seize" anything, so more reasons for him to do it.

Facts are facts, you can retain your "news".
35   komputodo   2023 Oct 27, 8:55am  

Tenpoundbass says

I don't think you have been paying attention. We're past the legal state, there is no legitimate court system in our country at this point.

but paying attention is hard..even harder is accepting the truth of what is happening in the US. Especially what has happened to the legal system.
36   Tenpoundbass   2023 Oct 27, 8:55am  

Well there's a fact a foot here. You're not a victim of Nancy Pelosi's Persecution. What's missing with your gripe is NOT the same argument coming from any of the J6 victims. Why is that?
37   komputodo   2023 Oct 27, 9:03am  

ad says

wo American F-16's dropped precision guided bombs on "Iranian-backed" forces in Syria today

precision? A standard Mk 82 bomb body produces a lethal area of approximately 80 m (across) by 30 m (along), giving a lethal area of approximately 2,400 m2. The pre-fragmented version, known as the PFB-82, produces a similarly-shaped, but much larger lethal area of 240 m (across) by 80 m (along) high, giving a lethal area of 19,200 m2. Thats surgical LOL
38   komputodo   2023 Oct 27, 9:17am  

RSYGWF says


It would send a powerful message.

to whom? I think the message has already been sent. Our "democracy" now allows protestors to be locked in prison indefinitely without a fair trial if you protest against the wrong team.
39   komputodo   2023 Oct 27, 9:52am  

RWSGFY says

I don't give a fuck about gofundmes.

I'm sure that you don't but I would bet that those that are locked up do
40   Patrick   2023 Oct 27, 10:17am  

ohomen171 says


The Hamas people hide in tunnels and among civilians in the Gaza Strip.


https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/spongey-friday-october-27-2023-c


💣 A photo of a series of recently-collapsed tunnels in Kahn Yunis, Gaza, gives you an idea of what Hamas has been doing with all the aid money and construction materials it has received from the U.S. and other countries over the last decade.

In Gaza, there are cities above the ground, and there is a giant insectile tunnel city under the ground:



Question asked: NBC News ran a story yesterday headlined, “Gaza is plagued by poverty, but Hamas has no shortage of cash. Where does it come from?” The sub-headline explained, “Hamas has an investment portfolio of real estate and other assets worth $500 million, say experts, and an annual military budget of as much as $350 million.”



How about that? Qatar and Iran are Hamas’ largest funders. One suspects the U.S. is also somewhere on that list, paying U.S. tax dollars over for “humanitarian assistance” to a group worth half a billion. And that net worth is just what Hamas publicly admits to, the legal side of the operation.

So don’t worry. Financially, the terror group is doing very well.

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