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2023 Sep 11, 1:42pm   7,146 views  139 comments

by Bd6r   follow (2)  

I am in Poland now, they soon have elections. An interesting and true ad for one of their political parties and referendum:

https://nitter.cz/visegrad24/status/1700131283333009700#m

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132   Patrick   2025 Dec 2, 12:33pm  

Skepticism is valid, but the following is not an attitude conducive to peace: "I hate you no matter what you say or do."

The Poles sabotage themselves over and over this way.


Triple Alliance Talks (April–August 1939): Britain, France, and the USSR negotiated in Moscow to create a mutual defense pact. The Soviets demanded the right to station or transit troops through Poland in case of a German attack, viewing it as essential for effective defense. ...

Poland's intransigence contributed to the talks' collapse on August 21, 1939, as the Soviets saw no viable path to counter Germany without access to Polish soil.

This vacuum prompted Stalin to pivot to Nazi Germany, signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact on August 23, 1939—a non-aggression treaty with a secret protocol partitioning Poland between the two powers. ...

By shunning Soviet involvement, Poland underestimated Stalin's pragmatism, leading to Poland's rapid defeat and partition, with over 5 million deaths during the war. ...

Poland's choice reflected valid fears but ultimately facilitated its downfall.
135   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 19, 4:42pm  

Eric_Holder says

Polish President Karol Nawrocki has warned that there are no agreements with Russia, “only lies,” a verdict he said is repeatedly confirmed by the long history of Moscow violating the very treaties it signs.

Speaking on Saturday during a ceremony to mark the 195th anniversary of the 1830 Polish revolt against Russian rule, known as the November Uprising, Nawrocki said: “With the Muscovites, neither in the 19th century, nor in the 20th century, nor in the 21st century, there are no agreements.

“There are only lies there, a desire to take away the spirit, and a desire to destroy.”


Nawrocki added that the lesson applies as much to modern Poland as it did to past generations.

“This is a lesson we must all learn, having deep faith in Polish cadets, officers, and generals,” he said.



So what?

What does this have to do with Ukraine definitely losing this war?

Nothing.
136   Patrick   2025 Dec 19, 5:16pm  

Booger says






We have a big menorah set up in Fremont Park here in Menlo Park, and I have no idea why. Maybe in sympathy with Australian Jews?

But I've never seen a cross up in any public park here, so it seems wrong anyway.
137   Booger   2025 Dec 19, 5:30pm  

Patrick says

We have a big menorah set up in Fremont Park here in Menlo Park, and I have no idea why.


Have you considered taking it down and replacing it with a cross?
138   HeadSet   2025 Dec 20, 2:28pm  

MolotovCocktail says

What does this have to do with Ukraine definitely losing this war?

It is because Ukraine is losing the war. Some Europeans are banging the drum that after swallowing Ukraine the Russians will start annexing the rest of Europe. Therefore, better jump in now to fight for Ukraine now or get conquered later. In reality, this ruse is just to keep the war and the grift continuing.
139   Patrick   2025 Dec 21, 9:29am  

Poland officially proclaimed Jesus Christ as King of the nation in a ceremony held on November 19, 2016, at the Church of Divine Mercy in Kraków, attended by President Andrzej Duda and other high-ranking political and religious figures.




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