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richwicks says

"We do not have a government anymore, we have a mafia... We have a government so... corrupt, that it's threatening world wide nuclear war... Our nation is insane. What other nation has ever gone to war for the profit of a corporation? We do it all the... time, and by "we" I mean my government, I oppose this. Does that make me a traitor? That I won't support murder for profit?"

richwicks, that was an excellent post.

PeopleUnited says

You rail on propaganda, and yet all you post is propaganda.

What have I said that is false?

I am tired of people being oblivious and in denial about what this nation has become.

Our "president" wasn't even elected.

PeopleUnited says

You miss the big picture because you are so distracted by details from the propaganda machine that you don’t see that your neighbors and our Founding documents are our Republic. Everything else is propaganda and a distraction from the truth.

There is no republic. We have a tyranny.

The propaganda you are repeating, is we're a democratic republic, even when we CLEARLY are not. We are trapped in this nightmare because of people like you. You still claim we're a republic, so we're trapped in the tyrannical regime, because you don't recognize what this nation actually is, and you deny what it is. 90% of people are like this.

There are around 800 people who are political prisoners to intimidate the public, and it works, on MOST of the public. Not me.

Propaganda is not always blatant lies. Propaganda includes half truths, when you say things that are true but taken out of context and lacking balance and nuance.

You are completely out of balance, your statements lack context and nuance.

Furthermore blaming others rather than taking responsibility for your own action and inaction betrays the fact that you are in denial. You are not the victim, you are not the 10%. You are part of the 99%. Those who blame others but refuse to do your part. Instead you want to tear down the very means of your own prosperity, just like Ilhan Omar.

PeopleUnited says

Propaganda is not always blatant lies. Propaganda includes half truths, when you say things that are true but taken out of context and lacking balance and nuance.

Be specific. I cannot reassess my point of view if I cannot understand what is wrong with it.

PeopleUnited says

You are completely out of balance, your statements lack context and nuance.

General, meaningless criticism.

PeopleUnited says

Furthermore blaming others rather than taking responsibility for your own action and inaction betrays the fact that you are in denial.

What are you talking about? I'm blaming others for.... what? What actions of mine are you talking about specifically? Which actions?

PeopleUnited says

You are not the victim, you are not the 10%. You are part of the 99%.

No, I'm definitely in the 10%.

Approximately 1 out 10 people where I live, recognize we didn't have a pandemic, knows that Biden wasn't elected, realize that Ukraine was overthrown by the United States, that the US blew up the Nordstream pipeline, know that Assad didn't gave his own people, etc, etc, etc. Not not everybody knows these things, there's much I do not know, but 90% of the population has no clue.

PeopleUnited says

Those who blame others but refuse to do your part. Instead you want to tear down the very means of your own prosperity, just like Ilhan Omar.

This is not causing prosperity. It's causing enslavement.

The coming dictatorship, which you deny has been WELL on its way of being made, will be the most totalitarian regime ever in world history and 90% of the population is entirely unaware of it, despite it being obvious so they are ACTIVELY constructing it.

richwicks says

We are trapped in this nightmare because of people like you.

I think you got that backwards. You are trapped in a nightmare of your own making. You claim that 90% of the people are unaware that they are constructing a dictatorship.

Um, what are you doing to stop it then. Bitching on the internet?

Get out and build an alternative system. You can’t have liberty if you don’t build a system that protects liberty.

We have liberty now thanks to the work of our neighbors and founding documents. But we need to work to preserve it.

You focus on the propaganda of all that’s negative, all the lies, all the mistakes and fraud, but you forget about all the good things we have. And the best thing is the constitution. So don’t tear this country down, build on the constitution, because when you get what you want and the republic dies, that which rises up from the ashes will give new meaning to the word tyranny. It could be that when America falls the New World Order Great Reset begins.

PeopleUnited says

I think you got that backwards. You are trapped in a nightmare of your own making. You claim that 90% of the people are unaware that they are constructing a dictatorship.

Um, what are you doing to stop it then. Bitching on the internet?

I helped build the fucking Internet. I was at Cablelabs in 1995. I worked at RCA and Motorola on development of the products you use now. I worked at Pacific Broadband.

The WHOLE POINT OF THIS is to educate the public. It's not for entertainment, it's not for porn, it's for education. That's whole point of it.

Now, do you think 20 years ago, I thought it was even REMOTELY possible that Americans wouldn't even know what WARS we're in? That's how fucking dumb people are, how little they care.

PeopleUnited says

Get out and build an alternative system. You can’t have liberty if you don’t build a system that protects liberty.

Who would use it? Nobody fucking cares, maybe 10% of the population does.

PeopleUnited says

You focus on the propaganda of all that’s negative, all the lies, all the mistakes and fraud, but you forget about all the good things we have.

I concentrate on the lies to expose them. If you have correct information, you'll come to correct conclusions. If you have incorrect information, well you can be convinced to do anything. "Oh there's a pandemic, we have to close down churches, small businesses, you have to a experimental vaccine blah blah blah"

90% of the people just went along with this. For all we know, everybody that took the vaccine, is the walking dead. If our government wanted to exterminate millions of Americans, and say Europe did as well, and Russia did, and China did as well, that's what just happened.

The fallout has just begun. Consider this, we know for certain that the vaccine doesn't work. If this was just about making money, and the government was colluding in this, and they knew the vaccine didn't work, why didn't they just use something like saline, or a flu vaccine or something? It wasn't just about money, something else is afoot, and I'm just waiting to find out what that is.

If more people understood how absolutely evil the government is, they could have avoided it.

You can't fix a problem unless you're aware of a problem. I don't know, I have made the error of over-estimating people's intelligence, maybe I have done the same with their morality. Maybe they truly don't give a shit that our government murders people for money. Maybe even if they knew, they wouldn't care.

Ukraine is going to be filled with depleted uranium soon. Russia will very likely win this war. When they do, and if there is DU all over the damned place, it's going to cause horrific birth defects and disease. This flag:



may be seen in the EXACT SAME WAY as this flag is now viewed:



And it will not be unjustified. Our nation is dying, because of systemic corruption, pervasive evil, indifference, ignorance, apathy. We're goddamn transgendering CHILDREN now. There's states that allow abortion on month 9. It's complete insanity.

The PRINCIPLES of this nation are great, we are the best nation in the world, in stated principles. Look at what our nation has done, in the past. The Constitution is awesome, it's primarily based on the Iroquois nation, they had many tribes, they had to cooperate and work with the other tribes so they had rules they followed, freedom of religion and free speech was fundamental to that, THAT'S where our Constitution comes from. They are good principles. I'd just like us to follow them again.

richwicks says

I helped build the fucking Internet.

Congratulations, you have helped to build the dictatorship. The coming totalitarian system which will control people to the extent that they cannot buy or sell anything without the permission of the dictator could not have been implemented without the internet. You built that. Don’t blame anyone else.

I’m not blaming you. But when reality sets in, perhaps you will feel like Philo T Farnsworth or Alfred Nobel who later regretted the things they are famous for creating. If you don’t see the pattern now you probably never will. But every tool, every invention, every technology and strategy can be used for both good and evil. And because every human has the ability to choose evil, rest assured that every technology will be used for evil. Every single one. The internet has saved a few people, but it won’t save the world. And it most certainly will not save America.

America’s problem is not lack of truth. And your assertion that if only people knew the truth they would be saved is naive. Do you even know what it is that people need to be saved from? You’ve been told many times and you still don’t believe it. What are you afraid of? That’s the question you need to consider.

The reason people don’t do what is right even when they know the truth, is essentially fear and selfishness. That is why truth alone will never save anyone. They are enslaved by a spirit of fear and selfishness. Technology can’t change that. Even the truth can’t change that. Only a spirit of love and forgiveness can overcome a spirit of fear and selfishness.

Your tone is not loving, nor forgiving. You might want to rethink that. Moreover, you rely on truth and technology to save people, but those never have and never will, without love. Love is the ingredient you are missing. Do you know love?

PeopleUnited says

And because every human has the ability to choose evil, rest assured that every technology will be used for evil. Every single one.

Yep, even Og the caveman may have had misgivings about giving humanity fire.

Ah yes, Og the fire maker. Cooker of food, destroyer of forests and burner of witches. Haven’t read his autobiography, few have I suppose :) which cave are his glyphs on?

The US will probably be viewed in the same way as the Roman Empire.

Influential, sometimes brutal, great military, the rich preferring slavery to employment of the middling classes (our equivalent is H1Bs and outsourcing to the CCP), corruption of military and veteran spending to line pockets of the corrupt, fell to societal decadence as it eschewed the Patriarchy and Civic Virtues that allowed it to be strong in the first place.

The Anona - welfare - was established because Slavery and the turning of Latin Family Farms into Professionally Managed Sheep Folds with Slave-Shepards, and Small Craftsmen Shops replaced by large Slave Powered Factories - ruined the employment prospects of working Romans.

Because much of Italy was turned into Sheep Folds, Romans no longer wanted to join Legions as they didn't want to move to distant Gaul or Pannonia to take a land grant, and the Senate wasn't about to reconvert their converted sheepfolds (usually through predatory loans or fake Veteran nominees) back to Veteran Family Farms. Also raised the price of local grain, so dependency on Sicilian and Egyptian grain imports increased.

Then the Rich moved to their villas to avoid urban taxation and got Constantine to pass a low forbidding farm workers from moving Estates looking for the best wages and employers - the dawn of Serfdom.

The Optimates always want to extract the most resources without putting up with Uppity Native Born.

When people who don’t work vote, we have reached the end of prosperity. I’d say that most of the welfare queens were too lazy to vote for the past 30 years. But 2020 allowed vote harvesting and a bunch of welfare recipients who never stepped foot in a polling place, suddenly had knocks on their door to collect mail in ballots. It was enough to turn the election.

PeopleUnited says

When people who don’t work vote, we have reached the end of prosperity. I’d say that most of the welfare queens were too lazy to vote for the past 30 years. But 2020 allowed vote harvesting and a bunch of welfare recipients who never stepped foot in a polling place, suddenly had knocks on their door to collect mail in ballots. It was enough to turn the election.

Biden didn't win.

Trump picked up 11 million more votes from 2016, but Biden somehow picked up an extra 15 million compared to Hillary Clinton.

That means about 7% MORE of the population (entire population, not just voting population) showed up to vote.

PeopleUnited says

But 2020 allowed vote harvesting and a bunch of welfare recipients who never stepped foot in a polling place, suddenly had knocks on their door to collect mail in ballots. It was enough to turn the election.

Yes as Act Blue and Bend the Arc had their activists (part time AntiFa rioters) canvasing mail in ballots in key metro areas like Atlanta, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Las Vegas, and Milwaukee.

Biden barely won most of those 5 states, and Trump needed to win just three of them to win the election.

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richwicks says

That means about 7% MORE of the population (entire population, not just voting population) showed up to vote.

Not exactly. Most of that was mail in. Those people never would have voted if they didn’t get one handed to them at their home.

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

That means about 7% MORE of the population (entire population, not just voting population) showed up to vote.

Not exactly. Most of that was mail in. Those people never would have voted if they didn’t get one handed to them at their home.

They didn't vote at all.

This was massive ballot fraud. It's easily observable in the graphs of the tallies. The reason elections took days to count, is they were manufacturing the ballots in order to justify the theft.

Even if that’s true it was not necessary. There were enough mail in and ballot harvesting operations to swing the election

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PeopleUnited says

Even if that’s true it was not necessary. There were enough mail in and ballot harvesting operations to swing the election

No, the spikes in the counting reveal it was entirely fraudulent.

Do you really think 25 million new voters were signed up by an aggressive get out the vote campaign? No way.

It doesn't matter, the deed is done. 46% of the population, the entire population, supposedly voted. The largest turnout in American history.

"Sean Hannity's Ratings Plunge After Tucker Carlson’s Fox News Exit" https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sean-hannitys-ratings-plunge-after-tucker-carlsons-fox-news-exit

I am not surprised. Hannity is a neoCon Globalist tool and his high ratings were due to the fact that his show followed Tucker Carlson.

Hannity supported every useless war we fought and the useless Covid vaccines.

richwicks says

It doesn't matter, the deed is done.

It does matter how they did it because every form of fraud must be addressed in order to prevent further fraud. In person voting on Election Day with a double hand count at the precinct level is all it would take for a secure election. It doesn’t even require a single computer to add the votes up.

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

It doesn't matter, the deed is done.

It does matter how they did it because every form of fraud must be addressed in order to prevent further fraud. In person voting on Election Day with a double hand count at the precinct level is all it would take for a secure election. It doesn’t even require a single computer to add the votes up.

I'm pointing out that unless people recognize there was voter fraud, there is no chance of ending it.

You have to know the problem exists to fix the problem. How the fraud was specifically done, doesn't matter until people recognize it was a fraud.

The only reason Hannity's numbers weren't bad is that Tucker watchers left the TV on for background noise.

Wayyy back in the 2000s when I was a young fart I had to turn the show off (with Colmes) because it was just a lot of multiple people talking over each other and gave me a damn headache.

I suspect O'Reilly kept Hannity's numbers up back in the day.

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richwicks says

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

It doesn't matter, the deed is done.

It does matter how they did it because every form of fraud must be addressed in order to prevent further fraud. In person voting on Election Day with a double hand count at the precinct level is all it would take for a secure election. It doesn’t even require a single computer to add the votes up.

I'm pointing out that unless people recognize there was voter fraud, there is no chance of ending it.

You have to know the problem exists to fix the problem. How the fraud was specifically done, doesn't matter until people recognize it was a fraud.

If you can’t tell me what happened, don’t blow smoke up my ass.

PeopleUnited says

If you can’t tell me what happened, don’t blow smoke up my ass.

The vote was stolen. We had a 7% increase in voters in 2020 which is around 25 million new voters. This has never happened in history, and it happened when voter laws were changed illegally by judges and not legislature, and where we had mail in voting, which no democratic republic has.

I don't need to understand the exact mechanics, I just need to know this is absolutely unprecedented in our nation.

Sure, let's investigate it, but that isn't allowed - why do you think that is? I can tell you, we have a mafia as a government, and you don't realize this, you won't accept this.

It's like asking me "how was 9/11 done?" - who cares? Our government is with-holding information, that's the smoking gun. You don't understand the finite element simulation of the collapse of WTC7, and I barely do and probably I don't. It's very complex, but it's provable that what happened is not what the government claimed happened, but it would take months to educate you to the point to understand the physics at minimum. Just know the government lied.

All you need to identify is they are lying, not how they carried out whatever they did. To do that, you need to reconstruct the WORK of 100's of people. You got the spare time? No single person is smart enough to reconstruct it, in fact, it would take 1000's of people to reconstruct it, and even then, they could be wrong.

The burden isn't for us to prove they are lying, the burden is they need to prove they are telling the truth, and they never shoulder that burden.

Because they are lying.

If they didn't steal the election, prove it, assholes. But they can't because they stole the election.

No, let's not 'move on', let's 'move back' and hang every one of the motherfuckers.

Bitcoiner says

Let’s hope Trump wins in 2024.

He won in 2020.

Unless people recognize that, we're doomed.

What do you want me to do? To ignore this? There are 800 or so people in jail for protesting this election, framed by our FIB.

Intimidation tactics only work when you are in the minority, they don't work when you are in the majority.

More evidence Carlson is not your savior, and never was:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/tucker-carlson-biography-nicaragua-cia/279782/
https://911truth.org/tucker-carlsons-dirty-little-pnac-war-against-911-truth/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLz5KH5ba2w
https://twitter.com/AgoristN/status/1650713057121693697?ref_src=patrick.net

Bitcoiner says

richwicks says

The vote was stolen.

Who cares. What’s done is done. Move on. Nobody cares about the 9/11 conspiracy theories anymore either. Let’s hope Trump wins in 2024. And if not, we’ll survive. Any election is the so called “most important election in our lifetime”. Gets old quickly.

Your time is better spent on healthy hobbies and generating more passive income.

That's not true anymore unfortunately, I would have agreed with this before the globalist marxist left started their hard authoritarian push for control. Still one of the best countries to live in, but I advise to be prepared to leave if necessary within a year or two. Since 2020 you almost got forced injected with a deadly clot shot (or lost your job), your freedom to move was and assembled has been removed (over a cold) and criticizing the mentally ill left or the government may get you prison time, your kids are being constantly being indoctrinated with transfag and white hate shit. It's possible that it will normalize some as the oligarchy may be running out of servants quickly, but sometimes even the uber wealthy get caught by surprise and they cannot get rid quickly enough of the demons they summoned, happened many times in history. There is never full or total control and a country can destabilize quickly. Enjoy your life and hobbies it while the going is still good and maybe it will turn around (like it did under trump), but be prepared. Plenty of beautiful places to enjoy in this world.

mell says

Since 2020 you almost got forced injected with a deadly clot shot (or lost your job), your freedom to move was and assembled has been removed (over a cold)

Mell, you're describing California. Probably Western Oregon and Washington too. NYC has always been a freak show so that's not new. Most the country is not like that though. It's just these high population areas project this onto the country even though they're less than 1/3 of the population.

With covid I did whatever I wanted. Only wore a mask (kind of) in the airport or plane. No one ever asked me for a vaccine card. I worked for my school district. They didn't care. I traveled. I feel bad for some people's experience with covid with regards to their location, but you could of and should have moved. If I recall I think you did.

At some point let those people rot in hell. Get away from them. I haven't been to CA post covid. Late August I'm going to San Diego. I won't abide by any bull shit. I'll politely tell people to fuck off if they ask for any mask or vax card. By polite I mean fuck off.

Fact is they yelled fire in a crowded theater. No one is going to take another pandemic seriously in our lifetimes. Hopefully we don't have a real one.

Bitcoiner says

Waste of time. Won’t happen.

How's the crypto working out for you?

Bitcoin is just another symptom of these corrupt times. There are people out there that think bitcoin, valued in fiat currency, is more valuable than fiat currency.

WookieMan says

Mell, you're describing California. Probably Western Oregon and Washington too. NYC has always been a freak show so that's not new. Most the country is not like that though. It's just these high population areas project this onto the country even though they're less than 1/3 of the population.

With covid I did whatever I wanted. Only wore a mask (kind of) in the airport or plane. No one ever asked me for a vaccine card. I worked for my school district. They didn't ca (some text omitted to shorten quote...) and should have moved. If I recall I think you did.

At some point let those people rot in hell. Get away from them. I haven't been to CA post covid. Late August I'm going to San Diego. I won't abide by any bull shit. I'll politely tell people to fuck off if they ask for any mask or vax card. By polite I mean fuck off.

Fact is they yelled fire in a crowded theater. No one is going to take another pandemic seriously in our lifetimes. Hopefully we don't have a real one.

This is not CA specific. States would never be able to push a general population vaccine mandate, it has to be federal. That's why xiden tried to use osha which was struck down by SCOTUS, which is federal. Right now there is no reason for anybody to abide by any crazy measure as they have been defeated for now. Tyranny with teeth always comes federally, not from the states. Rural areas in CA are like rural areas anywhere else, and there is a pretty vast homeschooling network now. I'm not talking about what an idiot governor or assembly, in NY, CA, or IL may try to push. If tyranny comes it will be federally. CA is (still) way to beautiful to leave it now, aside from financial considerations. We'll be likely leaving in a few years, maybe 5. Depending on the state of the country, maybe Europe is a possibility too for a while, plenty of beautiful places with lots of bang for the buck. Looking at you, Sicily.

Bitcoiner says

Waste of time. Won’t happen.

It might, because:

mell says

but sometimes even the uber wealthy get caught by surprise and they cannot get rid quickly enough of the demons they summoned, happened many times in history

This.

Any chunk of history when the powerful make a grab for power, they find it's not so easy to get things back in the bottle after they unleashed them. And the whole mess ends up with pretty much the status quo being restored (and often officially or permanently codified rather than simply accepted) at a big price for everybody, others yes but including themselves. 30 Years War and the Hapsburgs is one example.

I can think of many things:
1. China just fucks over their Western Oligarchs who outsourced to them and survives the coming devaluation by sieizing their IP and offshore investments in China outright.
2. Islam in the West becomes harder to handle, Post Modern Western Society hates Men, Post Modern Western Women are awful... and fertile recruiting ground for frustrated Single Mom Sons, who are now the plurality/majority of Young Men. It also gives them a purpose and ideology, since most Western Churches are all "Law of Attraction"/Self-Help with a thin veneer of Christianity, and highly feminized right down to the music. Islam also has a strong element of racial equality; unlike PoMo Oligarch Pushed CRT
3. Crime makes commerce more and more difficult, huge new expenses for security and loss.
4. BRICs increasingly stand up to Oligarchs Based in the West, daring them to invade.

These are all hypothetical.

AmericanKulak says

This.

Any chunk of history when the powerful make a grab for power, they find it's not so easy to get things back in the bottle after they unleashed them. And the whole mess ends up with pretty much the status quo being restored (and often officially or permanently codified rather than simply accepted) at a big price for everybody, others yes but including themselves. 30 Years War and the Hapsburgs is one example.

I can think of many things:
1. China just fu (some text omitted to shorten quote...) lso gives them a purpose and ideology, since most Western Churches are all "Law of Attraction"/Self-Help with a thin veneer of Christianity, and highly feminized right down to the music. Islam also has a strong element of racial equality; unlike PoMo Oligarch Pushed CRT
3. Crime makes commerce more and more difficult, huge new expenses for security and loss.
4. BRICs increasingly stand up to Oligarchs Based in the West, daring them to invade.

These are all hypothetical.

Yep, it's even possible, unlikely but def possible, that the marxist movement turns onto their enablers if they aren't careful when they don't pay attention, and you could see large wealth taxes, seizures, even imprisonment and killings. They have been playing a dangerous game, as long as they can keep the focus of the hatred on the blue collar Americans that may work, but it could turn on a dime.

mell says

I advise to be prepared to leave if necessary within a year or two.

Where are you going to go to? Not like any place is better?

PeopleUnited says

mell says

I advise to be prepared to leave if necessary within a year or two.

Where are you going to go to? Not like any place is better?

This is entirely dynamic. Also, with all my love for the US, this is not true. Many European countries did not go as closed to forced vaccination as the US did, many European countries don't have the transfag movements like the US does, I think due to the US xiden admin fucking Europe in the ass with the Ukraine proxy war they kept their slight advantage, but if xiden and the left continue their path of destruction, and even if they will be stopped, I expect some European countries to gain an edge within the next 5-10 years, economically and socially (esp. if they reign in on the african and muslim migrations). Not thinking about abandoning ties and properties in the US necessarily, but you gotta be global these days as the globalists always continue their reaming in countries where they can gain a good foothold, and currently those include the US. The fact that the US is a superpower is not that important anymore, many countries have accomplished enough military destruction power to challenge the US, so that the future wars are mainly economical and informational (Alex Jones was very prescient on this btw). This is a fading empire, which may not be a bad thing, if they would use the opportunity to focus on domestic issue and make the US great again.

PeopleUnited says

Where are you going to go to? Not like any place is better?

Sounds like you've never looked into this, but many people have been planning for years. Uruguay is probably the best bet. Isolated, no five or seven eyes, or foreign military bases. Very libertarian views. Plenty of natural resources, very low population for it's size. But you should go now. You can't time a societal collapse anymore than you can time a market top. Establish yourself, build roots, build community before things get back, and Uruguay shuts their borders.

Although there are plenty of places with the US that would also work just fine. Any place that's remote, has a survivalist community, any place looking to separate and build their own economy/community. We are members of a place like that and more are cropping up all the time. Again, don't wait to join/move, do it now.

NuttBoxer says

Sounds like you've never looked into this,

Reminds me of this.

https://youtu.be/BiaRo2oLVjg

I’d love to relocate, and I support anyone who does. But honestly I’m not worried about it. When shit hits the fan, I’m going to laugh knowing that the victory is already won. I’ve read the final chapter and I know whom I have believed, and that He is able to keep that which I have committed to Him against that day.

mell says

Alex Jones was very prescient on this btw).

Something tells me Alex knows so much because he is on team globalists, controlled opposition. They know who reads his stuff, what they write, and are distracting people from the truth by mixing in so much BS that you can barely breathe.

richwicks says

All you need to identify is they are lying, not how they carried out whatever they did. To do that, you need to reconstruct the WORK of 100's of people.

No, as a scientist I need to know how they did it.

It’s important because it’s the only way to prevent the steal.

Also, we need to know how many people were in on it, because we need to mark them, interrogate them and of course replace them.

Also the skeptic in me needs to know why if there are hundreds of people who worked to steal the election how come no one got caught or spilled the beans? That doesn’t pass the sniff test in my book. Someone squeals and/or screws up, always. There are plenty of explanations for counting irregularities, but if the law was broken why did no one get caught? Why were there no whistleblowers? Sounds fishy doesn’t it? Being a confessed whistle blower yourself? This supposedly happened in several states, and no one saw anything with their own eyes and reported the crimes? No cameras or leaks like Snowden and that guy in the national Guard? Really nobody saw nuttin?