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Who still thinks that AI (in the current colloquial sense) is NOT a Shell Game?
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2023 Feb 23, 4:26pm 3,725 views 47 comments
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just_passing_through
2023 Mar 12, 1:03pm
just_passing_through
2023 Mar 12, 1:03pm
For kicks someone I work with tried to get another AI platform to write bioinformatics code for us. The performance was so bad we figure our jobs are safe for a while. The joke is that bioinformaticians made our file formats so poorly that even advanced AI can't figure them out.
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just_passing_through
2023 Mar 12, 1:14pm
just_passing_through
2023 Mar 12, 1:14pm
Tenpoundbass says
Nope as I mentioned before we have had this disruptive tech for several years now without AI. We're getting a hellava performance boost using it now though that we otherwise wouldn't have.
The AI I'm speaking about is the standard: Build a model with training data then give it new inputs to collect output predictions. We just get numbers back, not pictures of shoes or a bratty chat bot. There are a lot of these being implemented in companies now that nobody discusses because just getting numbers back isn't sexy.
I also suspect you're throwing new technologies into the lot of generalized AI discussions.
Nope as I mentioned before we have had this disruptive tech for several years now without AI. We're getting a hellava performance boost using it now though that we otherwise wouldn't have.
The AI I'm speaking about is the standard: Build a model with training data then give it new inputs to collect output predictions. We just get numbers back, not pictures of shoes or a bratty chat bot. There are a lot of these being implemented in companies now that nobody discusses because just getting numbers back isn't sexy.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Mar 12, 2:23pm
Tenpoundbass
2023 Mar 12, 2:23pm
just_passing_through says
The funny thing about numbers. When the business principal wants a report. They already know the numbers they are looking for. And they will not accept the data, until you have given a list with the numbers they are thinking. There has been times the person was wrong, and the numbers I produced based on the filter required, was the right number. People like that will blindly accept a list of pure bogus values, as long as the count aligns with what they are expecting. I could appease those people by doing a top 21 query.
So how do you know those numbers aren't what you want, vs what you need?
There are a lot of these being implemented in companies now that nobody discusses because just getting numbers back isn't sexy.
The funny thing about numbers. When the business principal wants a report. They already know the numbers they are looking for. And they will not accept the data, until you have given a list with the numbers they are thinking. There has been times the person was wrong, and the numbers I produced based on the filter required, was the right number. People like that will blindly accept a list of pure bogus values, as long as the count aligns with what they are expecting. I could appease those people by doing a top 21 query.
So how do you know those numbers aren't what you want, vs what you need?
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just_passing_through
2023 Mar 12, 2:25pm
just_passing_through
2023 Mar 12, 2:25pm
Tenpoundbass says
I'm trying to stay anon so that's about all I'm going to say on the subject.
So how do you know those numbers aren't what you want, vs what you need?
I'm trying to stay anon so that's about all I'm going to say on the subject.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Mar 12, 3:13pm
Tenpoundbass
2023 Mar 12, 3:13pm
Self programming programs has been a goal for as long as I have been in software development. The only thing different between then and now, are better algorithms and processors.
There's a niche in software where the program or app is every bit of an Art as it is Science. By that I mean, takes a special talent to conceptualize, and create those programs.
While you certainly can boilerplate the mundane code through hundreds of different process, once you have established the programing pattern for those operations.
I can't see AI creating new programming patterns and concepts, with valid use cases, and working principles. It will only draw on what is available to it in that regard. As the Program flow for the AI engine would already determine it's design patterns and principles. Programmers will always be needed to update the code base to accommodate new standards and practices.
There's a niche in software where the program or app is every bit of an Art as it is Science. By that I mean, takes a special talent to conceptualize, and create those programs.
While you certainly can boilerplate the mundane code through hundreds of different process, once you have established the programing pattern for those operations.
I can't see AI creating new programming patterns and concepts, with valid use cases, and working principles. It will only draw on what is available to it in that regard. As the Program flow for the AI engine would already determine it's design patterns and principles. Programmers will always be needed to update the code base to accommodate new standards and practices.
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The plan here is to brainwash idiots into letting AI usurp our courts and legislators, and AI can dish out adhoc laws and set Truth Speak to fit the narrative in real time.