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LOL! No evidence a plane hit the Pentagon, just a few small pieces of something you could pick up in your hand.

They found a few intact patsy ID's, and perfectly preserved boxcutters, though.

Ceffer says

They found a few intact patsy ID's, and perfectly preserved boxcutters, though.

That didn't fucking happen.

It's a MYTH no plane parts were found.

Jesus, do you think they used CGI to fake the event? WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS, when they could just fly real planes into the goddamned buildings? What? Do you think they were squeamish about killing a bunch of innocent passengers on planes, when they killed 3000 people in the World Trade Centers?

These assholes are total sociopaths. They believe the ends justify the means, and they don't care about the ends being moral or justifiable at all. They're psychotics.

Ceffer, I'm not trying to call you out at all, I'm not an enemy, and I realize our government fucking lies, but you have to understand HOW OFTEN they lie, and most interestingly how they lie. They produce OUTLANDISH BULLSHIT THEORIES all the time to discredit people looking into how the government is actually lying.

You're repeating GOVERNMENT propaganda. Planes sure as fuck hit WTC 1&2 and the Pentagon. NO DOUBT. Did the planes ALONE take down WTC 1&2? Who knows. I don't. I know there was no effort made to prevent it. That much I know.

Some secret asshole in the CIA or FIB "secretly releases information" and suddenly, the fucking traitorous fuckers are magically credible. It's just another fucking lie from the intelligence agencies.

It's enough to know your government is lying. You don't have to know how finite element simulation works, or figure out how the buildings were brought down, or know what the logistics were, or know how people planted thermite (if it was?) in the building - that's beyond your and my knowledge. It would take YEARS to acquire that. All you need to know is the government lied, you don't need to repeat explanations. Stick to "the government lied to us about this", you can't know what they ACTUALLY did.

And when you present crackpot ideas of what you THINK they did, you discredit everybody else saying "the government lied about this, why?"

They were part of it, it's not in your ability of MINE to know exactly what they did. I'm not a demolition expert, neither are you, I don't think. I don't know what you do.

I won't preach to the research impoverished who won't look with their own eyes and common sense. At least people are coming around to the notion that 9/11 was a false flag inside job. That is usually enough these days. The means, motives and opportunities require deeper dive, which takes more time and attention. As usual, the issues are clouded by purposeful disinformations spread to disrupt the picture.

I’d like to see a re-enactment of driving a plane into a Pennsylvania field and see if it really leaves a crater like the one they told us was left by that united flight. Not saying it didn’t happen, just saying it looks like the ground just swallowed up the “plane”.

There is still a distinct transition between believing what you are told to believe and see and trusting your own senses. The psychopaths clearly benefit that people want things explained to them and will over ride what they actually see and hear in front of them rather than suffer cognitive dissonance.

Look at CNN. They get a bunch of intel agency stiffs who look like theatrical versions of eggheads. pretty, smart moms, honeytraps, and professors, all beautifully turned out in suits and high fashion truss outs, to lie and flog propaganda. "You all are stupider than us, poorer than us, we are better dressed than you and hang out with really important people, and we have your best interests at heart." CNN is Captain Kangaroo for adults.

Once you believe your own senses rather than the many layered propagandas, you shake your head that you were deceived by lies and theater again. Everybody wants to believe that official motives are benign and rational.

Of course, so many people have so many horses in the race, you have dozens of tails wagging the dog for their own agendas and points of view.

I am happy when people just dawn on the notion that 9/11 was false flag perpetrated by our own government, that's immense progress all by itself.

Lying Globalist Nazi invader of the Republic destroying from within Shrubbie Bush:

Ceffer says

I won't preach to the research impoverished who won't look with their own eyes and common sense.

I study propaganda as a hobby, all the time.

When our government kills its own people, it's quite common for them to produce a bunch of BULLSHIT LIES about what was done. That's what Judy Woods does, that's her job:

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/

If she was correct, she wouldn't have a job, you couldn't find her on Google, Youtube, or Facebook, she'd be deplatformed, like Dr Malone is, or she'd be dead like Kerry Mullis. You can say the most insane bullshit about 9/11, or sars-cov2-19, provided it's absolutely completely wrong. This discredits people who are right.

As long as you either, parrot government propaganda, or say something that is "crazy", you're allowed to say it. When you tell the truth though, and are correct, you will be deplaformed on youtube, facebook, and twitter. You can be very confident you're incorrect because the claim that "no planes existed in 9/11" can be discussed on these sites.

PeopleUnited says

I’d like to see a re-enactment of driving a plane into a Pennsylvania field and see if it really leaves a crater like the one they told us was left by that united flight. Not saying it didn’t happen, just saying it looks like the ground just swallowed up the “plane”.

I'd look up other plane crashes in a field, see if you find even one that looks like that. Guessing you won't...

Watching part three of Corbett's in depth series on 9/11. The "evidence" used to link Bin Laden was non-existent. Someone drew up this loose as fuck collection of suppositions, and that's what got passed around. NATO doc was a carbon copy of the one the US originated.

Part three starts with that fairly recent droning of a dude who was trying to immigrate to the US, and was a relief worker. Him and nine relatives were killed, including a 2 year old. Corbett correctly re-classified it, The War of Terror.