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39   PeopleUnited   2022 Jul 8, 12:51am  

richwicks says

I could be wrong, but I'm 50, and nobody has actually gone through the effort to show I'm wrong.


I would try, but this is what I really think (since you said I could say whatever I want)

King James Version
Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/Proverbs/23/9richwicks says

When I was 20, I honestly questioned if the people I lived among, were sentient. Asking that question though leads to the next question - am I? Am I just a mechanism that is programmed to dig deeper? It's a conundrum.


Like I said:

King James Version
Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/Proverbs/23/9

Or here is how Cheers put it:

Quote from Diane in I'll Be Seeing You, Part 2
Diane: I want you to know something. Ever since we've known each other, I've said to myself, "One day, we are going to get down to the real you." Well, we did it. Do you know what the difference is between you and a fat, braying ass?
Sam: Nope.
Diane: The fat, braying ass would.

I say it with all due respect... I generally don’t discuss much with you because you are a know it all. And yet you know what I would consider nothing. That is, what you know is just not so.

But again I say it with all due respect. You are entitled to live in ignorance, under the guise of intellect and many here are impressed by your largesse and plethora of words. Congratulations!
40   richwicks   2022 Jul 8, 1:01am  

PeopleUnited says


I say it with all due respect... I generally don’t discuss much with you because you are a know it all.


Haha, I don't know fucking anything.

I present my thinking in an attempt to get pushback. I want pushback. I pushback as well though. I cannot determine if I'm incorrect unless I have enough information to form that opinion, if who I am talking with has different axioms, we end up with an impasse. This is why I push constantly for original sources of how people form their thinking.

PeopleUnited says


And yet you know what I would consider nothing. That is, what you know is just not so.


I've said it many times before, I envy your ability to have faith. That was stripped from me. You don't appreciate how people lose their religious faith, they don't lose it because they just want to dump it and be free of it, it's chipped away, I was given logical paths of thinking where I could see how life could form. I understand how evolutionary psychology works, how it works not just among people but among all social animals. I understand how animal models in animal research are useful in human biology. I know how an evolutionary algorithm and neural network works.

But the thread I hang by is we cannot duplicate consciousness. We can make a machine that is better at recognizing human writing than a human being is able to recognize it, but we don't understand creativity or awareness. We are no closer to understanding this than we were 30 years ago. We have no idea how to give a machine motivation or creativity. We can only make it recognize patterns at best, mostly we use it to do random trials to do something efficiently. No AI "thinks". It has a task, but we have absolutely no idea how to make it actually ponder, wonder, or anything like that. It's clearly a machine. They are not sentient.

PeopleUnited says


But again I say it with all due respect. You are entitled to live in ignorance, under the guise of intellect


Intellect? I just know a lot of bullshit and I'm not certain what I "know" is true either, I'm just convinced it is.

It's a real puzzle and no man has ever figured it out, and I accept I won't either, but it's a puzzle. We get more and more data, but are we 1% there? 5% there? 50%? OR is this a dead end of investigation? You, I think, would say it's a dead end. I hope you're right in that, honestly. Better that just I am damned than everything and everybody. For me, the end of my life is the existence I had 100 years ago, oblivion. I don't fear 1960 - 11 years before I was born, but 2060.. Frustrating my meat mind fears it. I feel a need to overcome my programming.
41   PeopleUnited   2022 Jul 8, 1:30am  

richwicks says


I present my thinking in an attempt to get pushback. I want pushback.

Most know it alls are also self absorbed narcissists.

richwicks says


I envy your ability to have faith. That was stripped from me.

I don’t believe you ever had faith, nor was the ability to exercise faith taken from you. You choose your own path.richwicks says


, I was given logical paths of thinking where I could see how life could form. I understand how evolutionary psychology works, how it works not just among people but among all social animals. I understand how animal models in animal research are useful in human biology. I know how an evolutionary algorithm and neural network works.

What you are describing is indoctrination. You have made yourself willingly ignorant of actual evidence, your own origin and purpose. And the more bs you absorb the more confused you have become.
richwicks says


But the thread I hang by is we cannot duplicate consciousness.

Well, that is a start isn’t it? Only a conscious being can exercise faith. It is why we will never have a true artificial human. And it might be why when people start to connect their mind to the computers (trans humanism) they risk losing their humanity (soul) as Revelation describes.richwicks says


It's a real puzzle and no man has ever figured it out, and I accept I won't either, but it's a puzzle. We get more and more data, but are we 1% there? 5% there? 50%? OR is this a dead end of investigation?


I think we have a pretty good understanding of the world around us, and yet it is only a fraction of what there is to know. We know almost nothing of the other dimensions. For example God is timeless, from His perspective everything He said would happen has already happened. And how can we relate to eternity? And yet, whether you know it or not you have an eternal soul. You have everything you need, except one thing, you don’t seem to want to know God.
42   PeopleUnited   2022 Jul 8, 4:54am  

AmericanKulak says

More people are afraid of DA's going after "Vigilantes" rather than the criminals

Well said. In other words in America only the criminals and cops can be violent.
43   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jul 8, 7:41am  

Why'd they blur out her teats?






44   Undoctored   2022 Jul 8, 9:51am  

It’s all fake. Even the details that align with your view of the way things should be, against the “narrative.” They’re just baiting you, messing with you. Nobody killed anybody. These are all actors and and manufactured identities created to waste your mental energy and
demoralize you. Think cock fight, arguing with a pig, playing chess with a pigeon, tar baby.
45   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2022 Jul 8, 10:44am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says


Why'd they blur out her teats?


THE COVER-UP!

46   PeopleUnited   2022 Jul 9, 10:47pm  

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/09/us/chicago-residents-holiday-weekend-shootings-reaj/index.html

Chicago's 4th of July weekend death toll surpassed the Highland Park shooting.

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