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Eric Holder says

richwicks says

Russia is better off today than they were a year ago.

Why didn't they do all this beneficial to them shit (minus the war) a year ago if it is sooo good for them? Or 10 years ago?

They were trying to cooperate and play nice with the West - they've been trying to do this for 2 decades. They wanted to expand markets, do manufacturing for Europe, etc. That window is now closed with this war, for a decade at least.

Russia just kept getting shit on over and over again. The Skripal's are a good example of that which was some of the most blatant stupid propaganda I've seen coming from the West, and I've seen a lot of it. Anything and everything has been done to vilify Russia, even "Russia hacked our election", because a blood soaked Neocon war whore wasn't elected, and despite how OBVIOUSLY false this was, our entire intelligence community went along with it, and an entire political party went along with it, and 1/2 of another political party.

Russia was trying to negotiate with terrorists for a long long time. I mean look at the people that run the United States. They just tried to force everybody in the country (and got a significant number of them to go along with it) to get an experimental injection that was useless against a MINOR disease which they claimed was a pandemic. They're just fucking criminals.

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There's no point in trying to work with or negotiate with these people. WE have to deal with them too.

Russia is just going to withdraw from the world stage as much as possible, and it will be the WEST setting up a new Iron Curtain. In the 1980's I saw what Pravda and Izvestia wrote, it was LAUGHABLE - my great aunt was fluent in Polish and she could tell us what was written. Our foolish propaganda is even more laughable. Russia won't have to shut off media from the West, but the West will have to shut off media from Russia - they're already doing it.

We're the new USSR. Clue in.

richwicks says

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

Russia is better off today than they were a year ago.

Why didn't they do all this beneficial to them shit (minus the war) a year ago if it is sooo good for them? Or 10 years ago?

They were trying to cooperate and play nice with the West - they've been trying to do this for 2 decades. They wanted to expand markets, do manufacturing for Europe, etc. That window is now closed with this war, for a decade at least.

Why do that if being closed and isolated makes them "better off than a year ago"? Makes no logical sense. Are you really an engineer or just stayed at Motel 6 once?

Eric Holder says

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Eric Holder says

Why do that if being closed and isolated makes them "better off than a year ago"?

I'm talking about the people of Russia - not the people who have the greatest influence in Russia - the oligarchy.

It's the same in this country. Our government doesn't start wars to advantage this nation, it starts wars to advantage a few corporations that control the government. IF we ever face a real existential threat that threatens these corporations and their owners, suddenly, they'll start promoting policies that protect this nation rather than exploits it. Russia is now in the position, where instead of expanding their power and influence, they are protecting what they have instead, even losing a bit to protect it.

This war does NOT favor the oligarchy of Russia, but they can't expand anyhow, it's pointless, it's obvious it's pointless.

Eric Holder says

Makes no logical sense. Are you really an engineer or just stayed at Motel 6 once?

I'm not a simpleton that thinks that governments represent the interests of the citizens of a country. You apparently are.

Why do you think the Southern border is open and we have illegal immigrants? Is this for the benefit of this nation? No, it's to make a new slave labor class - it's NOT just about how people vote. It's so corporations can avoid minimum wage laws because their illegal workers don't pay income tax and they don't pay social security tax. Does this help Americans? No - it helps corporations. Trump had a 2 year time frame in which the republicans controlled both houses of Congress, why wasn't there reform, why wasn't the wall built? Republican leadership just takes orders, they don't control policy, corporations do.

Every "stupid" thing our government does, magically seems to work in favor of some corporate interest. Gee, the 2 year lockdown, who did that advantage? Well, no large corporation was bothered by it. There was a 5 TRILLION dollar "covid relief bill", if every Americans got the full amount of $1,200 (woo!) that means 330 million * $1,200 = 0.396 trillion dollars - that is if EVERY American received the maximum amount, and most people received nothing. Where's the other $4.6 trillion gone off to? Think it went to corporations? Why do you think airlines weren't screaming about the bullshit that was this "pandemic", or Aramco wasn't, or Exxon, or Hollyweird, etc? They were all paid off.

HunterTits says

pudil says

If Trump had been in office he would have engaged militarily which is why Russia didn’t invade while he was in office.

When you elect oat meal for brains because you don’t like mean tweets, well… elections have consequences.

No he would not. Ukraine is not a US problem. The sanctions is all he would have done. Maybe made a few phone calls to Europe that would have been like, "You so worried now, then you fork up the $$$$ and send your kids to go fight."

that assumes our government cares about us. they don’t. they don’t represent us. global wars are wars for ultra wealthy, we are used like pawns in their games. 40 billion was no problem. while america crumbles.

The 40 billion dollar check has cleared, they don't need Ukraine anymore.

Tenpoundbass says

The 40 billion dollar check has cleared, they don't need Ukraine anymore.

Sure they do - in a few more months there will be another $40 billion (or more) to launder in "aid". Afghanistan went on for 20 years, even though there was no mission objective. Why do you think Bribem is urging Zelenskyy not to negotiate? The United States engages in war for profit, exclusively. Just stick taxpayers with the bill and morons cheer it on.

The criminals that run the United States will drag this war out for as long as possible. It's unfortunate that possibly every healthy man of fighting age in Ukraine will be killed, but and it will cost US taxpayers trillions of dollars, and it threatens World War III - but what are you going to do? Besides in 8 years you'll own nothing and be happy anyhow. Go to your slaughter sheep and bring your kids and grandchildren with you. You have your short remaining span of your life to worry about.