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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   332,165 views  3,914 comments

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94   Patrick   2022 Feb 25, 1:23pm  

https://reclaimthenet.org/china-news-site-leaks-censorship-instructions-on-russias-ukraine-attack/?source=patrick.net


China news site accidentally leaks censorship instructions on Russia’s Ukraine attack
No news stories can be critical of Russia.

According to a translation done by the China Digital Times, Horizon News staff were instructed: “Do not post anything unfavorable to Russia or pro-Western.”

https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2022/02/minitrue-keep-weibo-posts-on-ukraine-favorable-to-russia-control-comments/

The team managing the outlet’s Weibo account was told to “carry out selection and control of comments.” They were also instructed to not use hashtags that were not approved by the state-run major news media.
95   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 25, 1:23pm  

Eric Holder says
Nothing is "claimed to be" - the one in the picture is not the one mentioned in Russian MOD press-release. Jeezus. Why would Russian MOD lie about losing a military transport aircraft? Makes no fucking sense.

I saw the same exact photo without the trident... on a Ukie Twitter account.

@richwicks is correct.
96   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 25, 1:27pm  

Eric, Patrick, FuckCCP:

Talk me out of this nightmare:

Putin's loss will give the Wokies their first ever foreign policy victory in 20 years, and take total control over America for years.

Biden defeats Putler! Trump the Russian Puppet was in cohoots with him! Glorious Obama holdovers guide Ukraine to victory with 4D chess move! Exterminate the Pro-Putin MAGATs! MAGA Deadender Putinites! Censor all media! Time to Ban Rumble Truth Putin's Puppet Social Patriots.win for National Security

The Media will dance like an Islamist with a head after a decapitation in pure glee and glory. A triumph for Biden! The wisdom of wise latinas and tranny health experts alike!

Biden and his Obama Woke Admin defeated intolerant Putler in Ukraine. Now let's defeat intolerance in K12 with a mandatory federal CRT curriculum. Only Putler lovers will oppose it

McConnell, McCarthy, etc. rush to sign the CRT Federal Mandate in all K12 or no federal funds lest they be called MAGAt Putin Lovers.


Biden or some other Obamaite wins a 2nd term in 2024. Dems don't lose the House in 2022 nor 2024 gliding on the wings of a Biden Victory and subsequent Presidential election overflowing to the House votes; Afghanistan, COVID, and School Indoctrination wiped away.

All the Normies currently waffling from inflation and COVID rules are swept back to blue, to vote for a Winner! No need to cheat. Even if gas goes to $6/gak with 10% inflation.

A Surrender by Ukraine, on the other hand, is a crushing blow for Wokies that even the greatest of Media Cheerleading can't prevent. The final nail in the coffin of Neoliberal Hyperinterventionism.

Honestly, I'm not being an asshole. Tell me how a Putin loss is going to help MAGA. There is no America without a massive MAGA landslide and soon, that I can see.
97   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 25, 1:37pm  

Liberator resting after Polka dance near Kharkiv:

https://t.me/Ugolok_Sitha/4457?source=patrick.net

A very long nap indeed (almost 2 days since the video above)
98   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 25, 1:45pm  

Are they outside Kiev or not?

CIA Ukie boosters say the Russians are held up everywhere, infer that they're stuck at the border or at the first major city on the way to Kiev.

But the Government of Ukraine is saying they surround Kiev.

Which narrative is correct?
99   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Feb 25, 1:50pm  

I tried to read RT.com today, since it's only news from overseas I know. Website won't load, says something about it being hacked. Whats going on out there, anyone got any info?
100   Patrick   2022 Feb 25, 1:52pm  

I still have relatives in Poland, so I asked how it is there and got this reply just now:


Hi, Patrick
Thank you for asking and worrying about us.We're all ok. I think that Putin won't attack Poland, because we're members of European Union and NATO. Right now in Poland there are lots of immigrants from Ukraine, the majority of them are women and children. It's very sad that whole families are separated and they aren't sure that they will reunite someday. Polish people are organizing some help for them, for example transport companies are transporting women and children from Ukraine to Poland. In Poland there are a lot of Ukraine people who are working here and they are trying to get them here. Also people are collecting things like medicines, clothes and food for them. We hope that the war will be stopped. For me Putin is a crazy dictator who only wants to write down on the pages of history. On the east board of Poland people heard some of the blows, because the bombs was only 30 kilometers from them. Polish people are scared that we will be out of petrol so they are buying enormous amount of petrol and there are huge lines in the petrol stations. If something important happen, I will let you know.
Best regards,
K.
101   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 25, 1:53pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
I tried to read RT.com today, since it's only news from overseas I know. Website won't load, says something about it being hacked. Whats going on out there, anyone got any info?


I honestly have no idea.

President of Ukraine says Russians on the outskirts, seems down but grim
Biden CIA funded twitter accounts says Russians are barely inside Ukraine and getting RED DAWNED PWND by the Ukrainian Army.

@Bd6r maybe hears things and @richwicks needs to chime in.
102   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Feb 25, 1:54pm  

Eric Holder says
Liberator resting after Polka dance near Kharkiv:

https://t.me/Ugolok_Sitha/4457?source=patrick.net


Video shows some tank blown up, some dead guy on the floor and broken truck. But I have no idea what that is. Are there some symbols or anything of that sort to look for? I'm guessing this is in Ukraine somewhere?
103   Ceffer   2022 Feb 25, 1:55pm  

It's not necessary to trust or like Putin or Russia. It's also not necessary to trust or like Trump. But if you trust and like the NWO, the WEF, the programmed genocide/democide, and the destruction of our country and our borders, then you are in serious trouble.

Thug or not, Putin is uprooting one of the major sources of supply of our present misery and the corruptocrats that support it. Ukraine is one of the major criminal supporting legs of the NWO and the WEF.
104   Patrick   2022 Feb 25, 1:57pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
I tried to read RT.com today, since it's only news from overseas I know. Website won't load, says something about it being hacked. Whats going on out there, anyone got any info?


I looked at it last night, and for the first time ever it made me pass an hCaptcha (better alternative to Google's spyware reCaptcha).

It did some extra Cloudflare "check of my browser" just now, but it worked. Here's their headlines:


China ‘respects’ Russia’s actions amid ‘crisis’ in Ukraine – Xi
NATO sending more weapons to Ukraine – Stoltenberg
Serbia reveals decision on Russia sanctions
Ukraine proposed talks, then ‘disappeared’ – Kremlin
Twelve thousand Chechens ready to deploy to Ukraine – Kadyrov
I, cyborg: How the UK wants to make its soldiers ‘superhuman’ INVESTIGATION
Ukraine’s president releases new video
Russia’s largest airline responds to UK suspension
Americans get more bad news on inflation
Russian military attack on Ukraine: How we got there
Biden reveals his SCOTUS pick
Fortunes of Russia’s richest decline dramatically
IOC calls for global ban on Russian flag and anthem at sports events
Counter-sanctions against West to hit its ‘weak spots’– Moscow
Council of Europe votes to suspend Russia
Drugmaker to pay record sum in opioid settlements
Britain rules out ‘active role’ in Ukraine
Ukraine needs more than ‘advice’ from West – Erdogan
Game footage being shared as ‘Ukraine videos’
Ukraine removes age restriction to join army
Russian tennis star Rublev demands ‘no war please’ in TV protest (VIDEO)
Panicked Ukrainians and Russians rush to ATMs
Ukraine-based game developers ‘hope for the best’
Russia comments on capture of Black Sea island
Peskov sees ‘positive’ signs in Zelensky’s remarks

Top stories
UK adds Putin and Lavrov to sanctions list
Russian regulator to restrict access to Facebook
German spy chief evacuated from Ukraine – reports
Putin tells Ukrainian military to ‘take power into their hands’
State of Chernobyl plant revealed after fighting


This one is odd: "Twelve thousand Chechens ready to deploy to Ukraine – Kadyrov"

Why would any Chechen ever fight for Russia after Russia pretty much flattened their country?
105   Patrick   2022 Feb 25, 1:58pm  

AmericanKulak says
Putin's loss


Is there a serious chance he will lose? It seems kind of like David and Goliath, and in spite of the story, these things don't usually work out for David.
106   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 25, 2:05pm  

Patrick says
Is there a serious chance he will lose? It seems kind of like David and Goliath, and in spite of the story, these things don't usually work out for David.


I have no information. By the numbers, I would think it's a slam dunk.

Our sources of info:

* We got the Ukranian Booster Tiktokers - many of whom are genuine patriots but many are indubitably Alphabet Boiler Room claiming RED DAWN style PWNAGE of Russia

* Then we have the President of the Ukraine sounding very dire and that Kiev is Surrounded.

* Russia seems to be putting out very little, at least in English to the World.

BUT:

* Putin doesn't want to get into Urban combat in Kiev that will definitely be bloody, maybe too bloody.
* The Russian Army is untested on this apparently massive scale, though the opening seemed clockwork and they have total air supremacy (not that that was in doubt unless the USAF intervened).

If they use Ray Epps and half the Whitmer kidnappers are FBI... they're CERTAINLY making fake news/video/photos about Ukraine.
107   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 25, 2:13pm  

Patrick says
This one is odd: "Twelve thousand Chechens ready to deploy to Ukraine – Kadyrov"

Why would any Chechen ever fight for Russia after Russia pretty much flattened their country?


Ramzan Kadyrov is a turncoat, just like his father - Akhmad: started on the side of Chechen patriots in the first war and then sold out in exchange of getting the position of Governor of Chechnia and started fighting on the side of the Russian Empire.
108   Misc   2022 Feb 25, 2:14pm  

No matter what. I hope for a short war.

It would be awful if Putin dragged out the conflict as long as Syria's. I don't need a you did it to my ally so I will destroy yours just to show what it looks like.

We don't need a completely devasted Ukraine torn down by years of conflict.
109   richwicks   2022 Feb 25, 2:16pm  

I bet the war lasts less than a week.

It's like Crimea, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, there's no way Russia can give up it's only warm water port.

In this, there's NO WAY, that Russia can allow NATO weaponry to be hosted in Ukraine.

This whole stupidity could have been avoided. A bunch of people killed, a bit of infrastructure destroyed, billions spent, and same fucking result Russia has been insisting on for the last 8 years anyhow.
110   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Feb 25, 2:20pm  

Patrick says
Is there a serious chance he will lose? It seems kind of like David and Goliath, and in spite of the story, these things don't usually work out for David.


Slightly off topic, but I thought about the story of Jesus. They crucified him for telling the truth, so was the same for Socrates. And now today in America our very own "Cancel Culture" that cancels people for telling the truth. I think the lesson is quite simple, when elites don't want to hear the truth, they murder truth bearers. Just your quote got me thinking about it.
111   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 25, 2:22pm  

The Ukrainians, at least the current leadership, is brave and worthy.

But Putin can't let Nuland and Pyatt and Yoganobitch and Chalupa-cabra and the rest of the Obama Holdovers get Ukraine into NATO.

I hope richwicks is right. By the numbers, and by hesitancy to commit anything from the West (except of course Poland and the Balts with ammo) beyond blankets and pillows, Putin should win.

I think he really doesn't want to get into street fighting in dense Kiev. There's no way to avoid massive casualties if there's any kind of resistance, solider and civilian.

Maybe that is what the pause is.

Or, the Twitter Bots aren't fibbing, and Russian Army is bogged down, due to Communication problems, hit and run attacks, ersatz barriers, etc.

Nothing reliable right now.

Edit: From the sounds of the Kiev webcams, the Russians are close, but using artillery sparing or waiting for it come up or trying to avoid using it except when very necessary for "Optics".
112   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 25, 2:29pm  

BRUSSELS, Feb 25 (Reuters) - NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said on Friday the alliance was deploying parts of its combat-ready response force and would continue to send weapons to Ukraine, including air defences, while saying that Russia was trying to topple the Ukrainian government.

"We see rhetoric, the messages, which is strongly indicating that the aim is to remove the democratically elected government in Kyiv," he told a news conference following a virtual meeting of NATO leaders.

Some of the 30 NATO allies announced the type of weapons that they would supply Ukraine, including air defences, he said, without giving details. "Allies are very committed to continue to provide support," he said.

Stoltenberg said NATO was deploying elements of its rapid response force, which is made up of land, air, maritime and special operations forces, on allied territory.
113   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 25, 2:30pm  

This seems genuine:

CNN Correspondent goes to Antonov Airport to interview Ukrainian soldiers after being told by Ukrainian Defense Ministry of a beaten back Russian attack there.

After arriving outside, and speaking for a few minutes to the Commander, he says "Where are the Russians now?"

The Commander says "WE are the Russians"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10549695/CNN-reporter-catches-firefight-Russian-forces-Ukrainian-defenders-outside-Kyiv-airport.html?source=patrick.net
114   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 25, 2:30pm  

30,000 AKs have been distributed in Kyiv so far. All one needs to do to get one is show a valid Ukrainian ID.

These would be handy for greeting liberators.

Ukie pretty much implementing 2A on the fly. In its pre-1934 form, no less.
115   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 25, 2:39pm  

AmericanKulak says
This seems genuine:

CNN Correspondent goes to Antonov Airport to interview Ukrainian soldiers after being told by Ukrainian Defense Ministry of a beaten back Russian attack there.

After arriving outside, and speaking for a few minutes to the Commander, he says "Where are the Russians now?"

The Commander says "WE are the Russians"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10549695/CNN-reporter-catches-firefight-Russian-forces-Ukrainian-defenders-outside-Kyiv-airport.html?source=patrick.net


Geniune but old.
116   richwicks   2022 Feb 25, 2:42pm  

AmericanKulak says
The Ukrainians, at least the current leadership, is brave and worthy.


I'd disagree, but after this war is over, they will remain in power.

Russia has done this repeatedly. When forced, they go into an area, beat the fuck out of it, and leave, with some very clear understandings about what that country has to do to avoid that again.

The war will be over within a week, and within a month, the Russians will be gone, and Ukraine will no longer be asking to join NATO or the EU. EU is a mistake anyhow, any country that has joined it ended up fucking over their own population after doing it.

Russia doesn't do 20 year wars with no mission objective. I have to respect Russia for at least having a GOAL for starting a war. War sucks, but when you do it, I appreciate it when there is a clear mission objective and a set of absolute demands.

If the US went into Iraq, found out there wasn't a weapons of mass destruction program, and left and perhaps helped rebuild, I would barely bitch about it but I'd still bitch about it to some extent.
117   AmericanKulak   2022 Feb 25, 3:17pm  

richwicks says

Russia has done this repeatedly. When forced, they go into an area, beat the fuck out of it, and leave, with some very clear understandings about what that country has to do to avoid that again.


As in Georgia, under Dubya - who also didn't do very much in response.

richwicks says
I'd disagree, but after this war is over, they will remain in power.


I think Zelenskiyy is of a different type than his predecessors, being an Actor rather than an Oligarch or lifelong Politician. I find TV/Movie actors to be excellent politicians. Reagan and Trump, and I think one of the Filipino Presidents, Duarte maybe? Or I'm thinking of South America.

richwicks says
The war will be over within a week, and within a month, the Russians will be gone, and Ukraine will no longer be asking to join NATO or the EU. EU is a mistake anyhow, any country that has joined it ended up fucking over their own population after doing it.


When I saw Putins modest demands, basically what he's been asking to talk about and being snubbed as Evil Russia instead, the aims are reasonable.

What a victory for Putin (and America) means isn't in doubt, but if all goes to shit by some disastrous chain of events, we'll be in rally bad shape, whatever reflexively Cold Warriors think about it. It'll be a HUGE victory for the Globalists, won't hurt the CCP one lick, and they'll leverage that positive news to impose a whole new stage or two for neolibcon globalist NWO whatever you call it with their wind in their sails, sweeping the 2022 elections "I wanna vote for Biden, victor over Putin! Who gives a fuck if gas is $7/gal!"

The NeverTrump Skunks will be even more unbearably arrogant and stupid than ever before.
118   richwicks   2022 Feb 25, 3:18pm  

Eric Holder says
30,000 AKs have been distributed in Kyiv so far. All one needs to do to get one is show a valid Ukrainian ID.

These would be handy for greeting liberators.


For Fucks Sake.

They never claimed to be liberators. Russia can't allow encroachment of the EU and NATO against their borders any further, and this is their only request and if that demand was met, this war wouldn't have happened.

Russia will have a decisive win in short order, I'd be surprised if it goes on for more than a few days, and they'll get what they wanted in the first place. Once that's been established, Russian military will leave, and Volodymyr Zelenskyy will be living in Miami in a million dollar mansion with a suitcase full of cash.

I'm doubtful the civilians give a shit which way it goes and I doubt they're willing to risk their lives to keep Hunter Biden "working" at Burisma. This is yet another stupid pointless war that could have been avoided if people were reasonable, instead of paid to be unreasonable.
119   Bd6r   2022 Feb 25, 3:49pm  

richwicks says
Russia can give up it's only warm water port.

Fake News

Novorossysk is also warm water port, some geography knowledge is helpful usually
120   Tenpoundbass   2022 Feb 25, 3:53pm  

I've looked at all of the roadside Propaganda attractions posted in this thread, and they all have the same common mark of Bullshit on them.

!)They aren't even on the road, intersection or any important piece of infrastructure that an invading tank would surely be traveling on. They are all conveniently off to the side of the road.
2)The lack of burnt human remains is also very suspect. As charred as those interiors are, there would be crispy black burnt human figures in those transports and tanks had people been in them when they were torched. Which leads me to point number 3
3)Armored vehicles like that are build to withstand Molotov cocktails and people trying to burn them from the outside. The exterior just doesn't catch on fire and burn those inside.
There aren't any bullets on those vehicles, no shrapnel holes, no deformation, no craters near the vehicles, so we know they were NOT taken out by incendiary or explosive devices while in commission with occupants inside.

They look like they were all parked on the side of the road, doused in Gasoline inside and out, and then set ablaze.
And those so called dead liberators, are all laying face down, with what appears to be blood on the tops of their heads. Either they are bad crisis actors, and the scene was set up by morons. Or they are capturing Russian sympathizers and executing them point blank on the top of the head. The way they are set up and their injuries do not look like Combat casualties. If they were executed opposition it would explain them being laid face down and called Russian invaders, so that they couldn't be Doxed and expose the lie.
121   Tenpoundbass   2022 Feb 25, 3:57pm  

Bd6r says
richwicks says
Russia can give up it's only warm water port.

Fake News

Novorossysk is also warm water port, some geography knowledge is helpful usually


Novorossysk could be taken out with just one Mother of all Bombs dropped in the center of the Bay. The way that port is inside a very narrow cove, does not exude Naval Supremacy.
122   richwicks   2022 Feb 25, 4:22pm  

Bd6r says
richwicks says
Russia can give up it's only warm water port.

Fake News

Novorossysk is also warm water port, some geography knowledge is helpful usually


Well my mistake. I'm going to have to spend some time looking at satellite pictures I guess.
123   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 25, 4:27pm  

richwicks says
Bd6r says
richwicks says
Russia can give up it's only warm water port.

Fake News

Novorossysk is also warm water port, some geography knowledge is helpful usually


Well my mistake. I'm going to have to spend some time looking at satellite pictures I guess.


Zero knowledge of European history. Zero knowledge of European geography. But lofty opinions about everything. What a fucking joke.
124   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 25, 4:29pm  

richwicks says
They never claimed to be liberators.


Oh, noes! A misunderstanding! Why aren't they say something instead of accepting all the greetings and Polka dances?
125   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 25, 4:33pm  

richwicks says
These would be handy for greeting liberators.


For Fucks Sake.

They never claimed to be liberators.


At this point I don't even expect you to know what TASS is. I'll tell you: it's the official USSR/Russia government press agency (TASS stands for Telegraph Agency of Soviet Union - they never bothered to even change the name).

So, this is what TASS reported yesterday:

MOSCOW, February 24. /TASS/. Denazification means that Ukraine should be liberated from neo-Nazis, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Thursday.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said earlier that in response to a request by the heads of the Donbass republics, he had made a decision to carry out a special military operation in order to protect the people who had been suffering from abuse and genocide by the Kiev regime.

"Ideally, Ukraine should be liberated, cleaned from neo-Nazis, from people sharing pro-Nazi sentiment and ideas," Peskov pointed out, when asked to explain remarks about the need to denazify Ukraine.


https://tass.com/politics/1409999?source=patrick.net

NOW, SIT THE FUCK DOWN AND SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU UNINFORMED FUCKING FUCK!
126   richwicks   2022 Feb 25, 4:34pm  

Eric Holder says
richwicks says
Bd6r says
richwicks says
Russia can give up it's only warm water port.

Fake News

Novorossysk is also warm water port, some geography knowledge is helpful usually


Well my mistake. I'm going to have to spend some time looking at satellite pictures I guess.


Zero knowledge of European history. Zero knowledge of European geography. But lofty opinions about everything. What a fucking joke.


Well educate me.
127   richwicks   2022 Feb 25, 4:38pm  

Eric Holder says
So, this is what TASS reported yesterday:

MOSCOW, February 24. /TASS/. Denazification means that Ukraine should be liberated from neo-Nazis, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Thursday.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said earlier that in response to a request by the heads of the Donbass republics, he had made a decision to carry out a special military operation in order to protect the people who had been suffering from abuse and genocide by the Kiev regime.

"Ideally, Ukraine should be liberated, cleaned from neo-Nazis, from people sharing pro-Nazi sentiment and ideas," Peskov pointed out, when asked to explain remarks about the need to denazify Ukraine.


https://tass.com/politics/1409999?source=patrick.net

NOW, SIT THE FUCK DOWN AND SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU UNINFORMED FUCKING FUCK!


What?

This is just another nothing burger. NATO isn't going to do anything, Ukraine will surrender in short order when they realize their supposed allies aren't, and after Russia makes terms and conditions and is very clear about these being kept, will withdraw.

NATO is bullshit. The UN is bullshit.

In 5 years time, this will be as well remembered as the Russian invasion of Georgia.

If there's any upside to all this stupid fuckery, it will end the civil war that has been going on in Ukraine for, what, a decade?
128   Eric Holder   2022 Feb 25, 4:51pm  

richwicks says

Eric Holder says
richwicks says
These would be handy for greeting liberators.


For Fucks Sake.

They never claimed to be liberators.


At this point I don't even expect you to know what TASS is. I'll tell you: it's the official USSR/Russia government press agency (TASS stands for Telegraph Agency of Soviet Union - they never bothered to even change the name).

So, this is what TASS reported yesterday: "MOSCOW, February 24. /TASS/. Denazification means that Ukraine should be liberated from neo-Nazis, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Thursday." ...

What?

This is just another nothing burger. NATO isn't going to do anything,
What is NATO has to do with the fact thay you were caugh lying about Russians "not claiming to be liberators"? Can you even have a cogent conversation without jumping around like a fucking flea on meth from one topic to another? Sheeesh. What a fucking joke.
129   Ceffer   2022 Feb 25, 4:52pm  

AmericanKulak says
If they use Ray Epps and half the Whitmer kidnappers are FBI... they're CERTAINLY making fake news/video/photos about Ukraine.

LOL!
130   Bd6r   2022 Feb 25, 5:03pm  

AmericanKulak says
Putin's loss will give the Wokies their first ever foreign policy victory in 20 years, and take total control over America for years.

@AmericanKulak,
This was not directed at me but I have had the same thoughts.

My considerations...
Let me preface by saying that US SHOULD NOT SEND ANY TROOPS TO UKRAINE. It is little if any of our business. Having said that,
Selling arms to Poland who can transfer those to UA is reasonable.
I don't like Russia/Putin and I genuinely hope Ukrainians kick their ass.
I am pleasantly surprised by Ukrainian resistance. Their army seems motivated.
If thdy win, you're right, Nulands of the world will have an orgasmic MUH DEMOCRACY GAY VALUES moment.
Do you think Ukrainian nationalists care about that?
As soon as Russian threat recedes, they will become more right wing than Poland or Orban, religious and all that. At this point they keep their mouths shut but tey are not soyboy types.
I don't think UA victory is anything but Pyrrhic victory for Nulands and Bidets. Another East European nationalists, similar to Poles.
131   richwicks   2022 Feb 25, 5:27pm  

AmericanKulak says
@Bd6r maybe hears things and @richwicks needs to chime in.


@AmericanKulak - I have to be very clear. I had a friend in Ukraine that was an expatriot, but I've not heard from him in years, and his skype account was hacked. He very well may be dead.

I'm just speculating with regard to what is going on. I expect that Russia will overwhelm Ukraine very quickly, make terms and conditions (the terms and conditions they had previous to this war), and leave.

The war was pointless. It could have been prevented. NATO is a paper tiger, Russia isn't a real threat, and mutual cooperation between Russia and Europe is mutually beneficial. NATO is pointless, and Russia isn't an enemy.

Russia will get what they wanted in the first place, the only difference is that a bunch of people got killed over it, there's been damage to infrastructure, but perhaps on the plus side it ends the civil war in Ukraine. I hope for the best, and I think I'm right to expect that, but time will tell. I hope I'm right.
132   Bd6r   2022 Feb 25, 5:42pm  

AmericanKulak says
President of Ukraine says Russians on the outskirts, seems down but grim
Biden CIA funded twitter accounts says Russians are barely inside Ukraine and getting RED DAWNED PWND by the Ukrainian Army.

@Bd6r maybe hears things

Nothing is clear as of yet. It was not a cakewalk with Ukrainians meeting them with flowers as Russians thought, but on other hand they have apparently broken through in South Ukraine. Ukrainians heavily bombed airport in Russia near Rostov. Poles transferred their AA rockets to Ukraine which also says that situation hangs in balance. Next few days will tell.
133   RC2006   2022 Feb 25, 5:46pm  

I'm hoping for the same Russia gets in and out of there quick. I am more worried they have planed this with China and China does a real grab.

It's irritating all the surprise with what Putin is doing, I think we have been expecting it after Crimea was taken during Obummer.

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