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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   432,617 views  4,183 comments

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3657   socal2   2024 Mar 18, 4:09pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Jesus fucking christ!


Funny - as you appear to be the most emotionally Patneter invested in Russia "winning".

You have 3 years on this site CONFIDENTLY predicting the imminent collapse of Ukraine only to be proven spectacularly wrong year after year as evident of Russia having less Ukrainian land under their control today than 3 years ago despite throwing hundreds of thousands of Russian conscripts into the meat grinder for no gain.

Not only were you guys spectacularly wrong about Russia succeeding, you guys were wrong about Ukraine and Europe running out energy, running out of food or Putin widening the war with nukes.

Whereas, guys like me have simply said we don't think Russia can "win" after failing their main war goals in the first month of the invasion failing to topple Kiev.

Regardless of what you think, there are still plenty of Ukrainians willing to defend their country from Russian invaders. How long do you think Putin can keep feeding the Russian meat grinder for a losing cause before his rule is at risk?
3658   richwicks   2024 Mar 18, 4:28pm  

socal2 says

richwicks says


Money and blood well spent, I guess.


You are talking about Russia - right?

All the Russia fluffers have been CONFIDENTALY predicting a total Russian victory since the start of the war.


I haven't. I was HOPING that Russia would do a decapitation and not go into a proxy war, but that was just hope.

See? I wrote this on Dec 29, 11:38pm, 2021 - Russia invaded on February 24, 2022

richwicks says

Who cares. The cabal that runs the United States is just killing all of us with these stupid wars. Russia will fight a war of attrition and just allow the US to continue to bankrupt the entire nation for something 99.99% of the US population has no stake in. The Middle East has been doing this for 2 decades now.

I bet if it came to war in Ukraine, Russia wouldn't even cut off their energy exports to Europe although the US might sabotage these pipelines and then attempt to blame Russia.

The United States is causing this conflict, not Russia. It's just another example of the insanity that runs this nation. The US has bombed 7 nations over the last 20 years - has this in any way benefited this nation?


This was ridiculously easy to predict. This war is to cut off Russian energy exports to put Europe under the thumb of the US which is in part what all these wars in the Middle East were about, because easier to steal their energy than to ship US energy across the ocean. If I know this, Russia does, and since the US did blow up their energy export ability, literally, and energy is a fungible commodity and China really needs energy as does India, they are just restructuring with India and China, and will ignore Europe as the cocksuckers that run this nation ruin Europe.

I never get credit for being right.
3659   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 18, 6:47pm  

socal2 says


Funny - as you appear to be the most emotionally Patneter invested in Russia "winning".


You post a lot of bullshit even when your previous chunks of posted bullshit has been exposed.

#troll
3660   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 18, 6:49pm  

socal2 says

Not only were you guys spectacularly wrong about Russia succeeding


Seems Russia is definitely succeeding.

Ukraine is totally fucked.
3662   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 18, 8:22pm  

socal2 says

there are still plenty of Ukrainians willing to defend their country from Russian invaders.




socal2 says

How long do you think Putin can keep feeding the Russian meat grinder for a losing cause before his rule is at risk?


Considering how that is all made up bullshit on your part, no risk.
3663   Patrick   2024 Mar 19, 8:31pm  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Nominally independent countries with Russian military bases in them to keep them in line, like Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslavakia in 1968.


It would be interesting to see if Germany and Japan are independent enough to close all US military bases in those countries.

I bet the US would not allow them to do that no matter what, proving that they are mere vassal states even now.
3664   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 19, 10:01pm  

Patrick says

I bet the US would not allow them to do that no matter what, proving that they are mere vassal states even now.


The Japanese want our bases. The Germans need them because of the $$$$ they infuse into the local economies around them (Okinawa depends on this moola also).
3665   Patrick   2024 Mar 19, 10:13pm  

I'm just asking whether Japan and Germany would be allowed to remove US bases.

I'm guessing they have no choice and are thus not really independent countries.
3666   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 20, 7:30am  

Patrick says

I'm just asking whether Japan and Germany would be allowed to remove US bases.

I'm guessing they have no choice and are thus not really independent countries.


They can. In the end those bases can only exist there with native support.
3667   richwicks   2024 Mar 20, 8:31am  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Patrick says


I'm just asking whether Japan and Germany would be allowed to remove US bases.

I'm guessing they have no choice and are thus not really independent countries.


They can. In the end those bases can only exist there with native support.


No they can't. There was a severe rape incident in Okinawa by US servicemen, and Japan wanted the base out, and Okinawans sure did. It's still there.

It's like Iraq is a dumbocrazy now. They voted for the US to get the fuck out, and the US is still there.

Japan and Germany are vassal states of the United States.
3669   RayAmerica   2024 Mar 20, 8:29pm  

It appears that the Ministry of Propaganda has grown tired of 'reporting' on the Ukraine/Russian war.

What America needs is an exciting new war with lots and lots of killing and action. That'll get the true patriots to fly the flag on their homes, along with the flag of the country that we are providing aid to fight an evil country like Russia.

I don't seem to see any more of those Ukraine flags flying everywhere, but maybe that's just in my area. What about where you live?
3670   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 20, 8:31pm  

RayAmerica says


It appears that the Ministry of Propaganda has grown tired of 'reporting' on the Ukraine/Russian war.


As the election draws near we'll probably hear less and less, too.

But don't worry! According to socal2, Ukeys have a kick ass army and the Russians are losing!
3671   richwicks   2024 Mar 20, 8:46pm  

RayAmerica says

It appears that the Ministry of Propaganda has grown tired of 'reporting' on the Ukraine/Russian war.


This is pattern.

The US starts a war or eggs one one, they lose the war, and once it's fucked, the propaganda machine stops reporting on it, so when the disaster is unveiled, nobody bothers to look up what happened.

Libya is a mess, Afghanistan is a mess, Syria is still ongoing but it will be a mess, Iraq is a mess, and Yemen and Somalia were always that way, but they will be worse off - now it's Ukraine's turn.
3672   richwicks   2024 Mar 20, 8:48pm  

RayAmerica says

I don't seem to see any more of those Ukraine flags flying everywhere,


This is stolen from this site, but this is precisely what happened, what always happens. Foreign nations are stupid to work with the United States.


3673   Patrick   2024 Mar 20, 10:11pm  

RayAmerica says

I don't seem to see any more of those Ukraine flags flying everywhere, but maybe that's just in my area. What about where you live?


@RayAmerica I don't see them in my area either, except maybe on a random house that still has its BLM decorations up too.
3674   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 20, 11:14pm  

Patrick says

RayAmerica says


I don't seem to see any more of those Ukraine flags flying everywhere, but maybe that's just in my area. What about where you live?


RayAmerica I don't see them in my area either, except maybe on a random house that still has its BLM decorations up too.


I see it ~twice a day.


3676   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 21, 1:05pm  

The Economist ran a screamer today - claiming, two years in, that the Russians are going to run out of artillery gun barrels any day now because of tube wear, because some idiot told them they only produce one new barrel per week - so let's run the numbers.

Artillery barrel wear is measured in "Effective Full Charges" - basically the amount of wear on the barrel that you can expect if you fire a standard round at full charge. Firing at a reduced charge would decrease it, while firing at a "super" charge will increase it. Cannon barrels are generally good for around 2000 EFCs before they wear out of spec.

Assuming that all rounds fired in theater are fired at full charge, and that the Russians fire 20,000 rounds per day on average, this breaks down to a requirement for ten new gun barrels daily. According to, uh... the Economist's own article, the Russians have at least two artillery barrel foundries, so meeting this requirement would seem to me to be trivial - although I know it might surprise some of my readers in the West to learn that a Soviet gigafactory can in fact produce multiple pieces of a given steel product daily.

Except the Economist's case actually gets worse because artillery barrels often don't need to be replaced completely, they just need to be bored out and relined - a process that's considerably less resource-intensive than manufacturing a new barrel.

There's this ridiculous analytical cottage industry of taking some production figure for Russian war materiel gleaned at the bottom of the 1990s, assuming it's unchanged under wartime conditions in 2024, and using it to say This Is How Ukraine Can Still Win.

For lack of a better term, it's cope.




https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1770901622899773570
3677   Patrick   2024 Mar 23, 9:49am  

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/a-heavy-price-to-be-paid


Russia have detained the terrorists.

They are singing like canaries. They claim they were recruited on Telegram to commit the attack in exchange for money.

Putin himself claims that Ukraine tried to assist the terrorists into Ukraine after the attack.

It’s clear some organized entity used patsies as proxy to carry out the attack. Textbook CIA behavior. Combined with Ukraine trying to assist the terrorist in their escape… the evidence would strongly suggest this attack was organized by Western Intelligence.

Whether that be Ukraine, CIA, MI6, Mossad, or some other Western entity, they all serve the same globalist masters, and share the same goal of defeating Russia by any means necessary.

Regardless of what the truth is, Putin is going to have a response. He claims Ukraine, and all those who assisted, will pay a heavy price.
3678   Ceffer   2024 Mar 23, 10:07am  

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

The Economist ran a screamer today

Another captured Globalist rag. I used to like reading it for the World coverage ignored by domestic magazines and papers, even though it has a decidedly smug Don perspective as opposed to Fleet Street aghast. Guess they have to keep writing shit from AI that only fools will read like all the other lie stacking screeds.
3679   richwicks   2024 Mar 23, 10:34am  

Patrick says

Regardless of what the truth is, Putin is going to have a response. He claims Ukraine, and all those who assisted, will pay a heavy price.


Could be a false flag. Not saying it is, but there's no strategic advantage in doing this. Ukraine has already lost, and this won't help them, it only gives Russia the ability to be more ruthless and to draw sympathy.

It's hard to say though, Neocons are so fucking stupid, it's possible the West did this. When I think about it, only the Neocons would be this fucking stupid, any other nation involved, I would call it a false flag.
3683   socal2   2024 Mar 25, 8:06am  

Patrick seems to be wobbling between believing that radical Islam is a fundamentalist retrograde force facing humanity that needs to be countered - then slides back to its all the work of the Jews and the CIA!
3684   richwicks   2024 Mar 25, 8:33am  

socal2 says

Patrick seems to be wobbling between believing that radical Islam is a fundamentalist retrograde force facing humanity that needs to be countered - then slides back to its all the work of the Jews and the CIA!


Why do you think this is a dichotomy, that it has to be one or the other?
3686   Patrick   2024 Mar 25, 9:31am  

richwicks says

Why do you think this is a dichotomy, that it has to be one or the other?


Yes, at this point, I think it was the CIA paying Muslims.

I do also think there is a lot of Jewish hatred for Russia, and this goes back a long way. For example, Jacob Schiff financed Japan in the Russo-Japanese war.
3687   richwicks   2024 Mar 25, 9:37am  

Patrick says

I do also think there is a lot of Jewish hatred for Russia, and this goes back a long way. For example, Jacob Schiff financed Japan in the Russo-Japanese war.


It might be long term hatred, but the immediate case is that Israel has been fighting Syria and wants to regime change that area, Russia is standing in the way and bombed ISIS directly, the US just pretended to do that, and Russia is allied with Iran.

Israel is filled with Jewish Russians as well, and not all of them work solely on behalf of Israel, lots of Russian spies there.

Patrick says

Jacob Schiff financed Japan in the Russo-Japanese war.


I didn't know that.
3688   Patrick   2024 Mar 25, 11:50am  

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/in-blob-we-trust


Whatever else you think about the Russians, they are not dumb bunnies. You can be sure they are carefully putting together the puzzle pieces, having already been careful to take the suspects alive. They were, incidentally, all in one car driving toward the Ukraine border when apprehended by Russian police. That is being considered “a clue” as to who their handlers are. But then, who is Ukraine’s handler? (Cue: thinking music.)

At least one of them — Fariduni — confessed that his gang received all their instructions over a Telegram social media channel. The gang, by the way, were all natives of Tajikistan, a former Soviet republic. Its population is 98 percent Muslim, around 97 percent of them Sunni and 3 percent Shia. Neighboring Iran is militantly Shia, for what it’s worth. The four Crocus perps were living as immigrant workers in Russia. How hard would it be to track who was the proprietor of the alleged Telegram messaging site that offered payment and sent orders to the perps? I’m guessing that would not be so difficult.
3695   HeadSet   2024 Mar 25, 12:21pm  

Patrick says





The lobsters still have the bands on their claws.
3696   The_Deplorable   2024 Mar 25, 5:54pm  

A vigil for the victims of the Crocus City Hall attack



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ynFj1tigI

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