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Either way it's for your own good.

I'm not sure either.

The evil has been so profound and pervasive that I'm sure there is nothing off limits for the vaxxers.

Depends what you thought of her personally.

If it's just informative and no card is necessary just say yes next time. Have her show you the vial before getting the shot. If you're very paranoid about this incident do an antibody at home test for like 40 bucks.

mell says

If it's just informative and no card is necessary just say yes next time. Have her show you the vial before getting the shot. If you're very paranoid about this incident do an antibody at home test for like 40 bucks.

I am going to do this. Will this test tell me, for sure, if I was given the vax or not? If she slipped me the vax, what can I do about it? I imagine she could lie and say I told her I wanted it?

Where do I get this antibody test? I assume it has to be a certain type of test.

Always insist on seeing the vial.

WineHorror1 says

mell says

If it's just informative and no card is necessary just say yes next time. Have her show you the vial before getting the shot. If you're very paranoid about this incident do an antibody at home test for like 40 bucks.

I am going to do this. Will this test tell me, for sure, if I was given the vax or not? If she slipped me the vax, what can I do about it? I imagine she could lie and say I told her I wanted it?

She could claim you have natural immunity and you may but it's unlikely if you never had strong covid symptoms that antibodies would still show up. I don't think she slipped you one since they all require two shots and it's a lot if risk if exposed. But it's useful to take that AB test anyways. There are websites of companies who sell it but it looks like for AB you need to go to a local labcorp or quest or so for blood draw but it's only $10
https://www.goodrx.com/treatment/coronavirus-test

You can also do the reverse and test for tetanus antibodies which should be nice and high now, if so, she only gave you one shot so it must be the right one:

https://www.labcorp.com/tests/163691/tetanus-antitoxoid-antibodies

I got a pretty bad cut on my finger at work three weeks ago. The doctor put three stitches in to keep it closed and asked me about the tetanus shot. I said it had been a while, so they got that ready. When it came time for the jab they showed me the vial and let me read it to confirm what it was. Maybe they have been having a lot of people ask about that?

I have read Covid antibody tests do not show vax antibodies because they are different (I know they’re much narrower in scope). I don’t think we have access to vax antibody tests—could see those being top-secret proprietary, as people would then gain knowledge about whether the vax works—I’m no doctor, though.

Maybe try searching for your name in your state Covid vax database, if your state has that. Though if a nurse snuck it into your arm, then she might not add your name to the compliance roll call.

Tetanus shots really make your arm sore. Much more than most others, so if your arm is really sore, it could be legit tetanus. Problem is, they are going to put the Covid kill shot mixed with every other shot eventually.

WineHorror1 says

She asked when the last time it was that I’d gotten a tetanus shot. I agreed to the tetanus shot because it has probably been 20+ years since I've had one and because I was concerned I had not done a very good job dressing and cleaning the wound myself. After my wound was redressed, she asked which arm I wanted the vax on. I said, hey!! I don’t want the vax. I wagged my finger and said very sternly…tetanus only!!

That's too bad, because you have about a 0 chance of getting tetanus. Unless you had your mandolin in cow shit or something.

And as far as I know - a mandolin is a type of a guitar. Who the fuck slices vegetables with a guitar?

Nobody gets tetanus today.

https://www.cdc.gov/tetanus/surveillance.html

Those are FARMERS, and maybe their kids, that stepped on a nail, in a field. If it was me, I would have been like:

"Tetanus? There's less than 10 cases a year in the United States, and when it does show up, it's in rural areas since tetanus tends to live in manure."

And then might have added

How can I know that, but you, a medical professional don't?

Which is the same was as saying:

"You stupid bitch! Don't give me a vaccine that you know damned well I don't need, unless you're incompetent"

If you see her again, I'd ask her point blank why she gave you a shot, and then point out the statistically likelihood of getting tetanus.

I did the same thing. The instant the mandolin blade goes dull, it becomes very dangerous. It's easier to use a sharp knife and work on your knife skills.

tetanus shot is not instant protection. antibodies can take weeks to develop.

pretty good~

I’ve never been concerned about evil intentions when getting shots but I have been concerned about carelessness.

Therefore, I always ask to see the container before I let anyone give me a shot.

WineHorror1 says

Now I’m all mindfucked over whether I received the vax or the tetanus shot.

When I got tetanus shot 15 yrs ago, my arm was hurting and shoulder was numb for a day.

Ceffer says

Tetanus shots really make your arm sore. Much more than most others, so if your arm is really sore, it could be legit tetanus

I agree. I work in the trades and have multiple pet cats, so getting cuts that bleed is a more than once a day occurrence in my life. Therefore, I get tetanus boosters every 5-10 years, while its been decades for all others now in my 50s. Think I got a DPT a few years back. Pain at the injection site is guaran-damn-teed with the Tetanus shot, and it can hurt a LOT and remain sensitive for days afterward. If this is your only side effect, you def got a tetanus booster.

It's funny how people including my Mom get all fussy if they see me get so much as a pinprick. "Oooooh! Go clean it and put Neosporin on, and bandage it up!" Jesus, I could not function like that. Plus, I think I've built up strong antibodies according to the dirty side of the Hygiene Hypothesis, or as I like to call it, Acquired Immune SUFFICIENCY Syndrome.

richwicks says

point out the statistically likelihood of getting tetanus.

The thing about this disease is, it's low-likelihood, but uncurable once contracted, and a slow, miserable, dramatic death is near certain. This is a jab whose risk/benefit I wholeheartedly embrace.

Automan Empire says

richwicks says

point out the statistically likelihood of getting tetanus.

The thing about this disease is, it's low-likelihood, but uncurable once contracted, and a slow, miserable, dramatic death is near certain. This is a jab whose risk/benefit I wholeheartedly embrace.

10% mortality rate, quite painful, is treatable with multiple methods once symptoms are presented.

I'd be curious what the mortality rate of Americans are once symptoms are presented. I bet it's been 0 since 1960.

I've lost count of how many times I've cut myself. I used to bike a lot, and I mean A LOT, I have scars from road rash. I should have gotten a tetanus shot each time according to a "medical professional". Go home, take a shower, scrub it down with soap and water to remove all the grit, then dump hydrogen peroxide all of it. I never dressed my wounds - so some blood shows up on my sheets and clothing, I'd have a good healthy set of scabs in 24 hours.

You can remove blood from clothing with hydrogen peroxide, but if you leave it on too long, you MIGHT bleach the garment, and you will weaken it.

I think people are far too paranoid of disease. That will probably kill me one day, or a car might.

richwicks says

And as far as I know - a mandolin is a type of a guitar. Who the fuck slices vegetables with a guitar?

Oh. That's a "mandoline knife". Not to pick on your spelling, because I've never heard of a mandoline knife or mandoline slicer.

I learned a new thing today.

Patrick says

The evil has been so profound and pervasive that I'm sure there is nothing off limits for the vaxxers.

Yep, I didn't even think about until my wife said something a few hours after I came home. I could see individuals on the vaxxer side possibly taking matters into their own hands. I really should find out what they gave me. But how could I prove it? She could simply say I said yes. Evil exists. Big time. Trust in society is gone.

WineHorror1 says

Ha. I got my mandolin out today and made a little cole slaw. The fucker terrifies me.

I rushed out to get a tetanus shot last year after stepping on a rusty nail. The nurse told me, "I haven't seen a case of tetanus in about 35 years." I did get the booster anyways.

Apparently I overreacted, because I was ignorant.

On the other hand, if you're not paranoid these days, you're not paying attention.

Automan Empire says

it's low-likelihood, but uncurable once contracted

Are you sure you're not thinking of rabies?

richwicks says

Automan Empire says

richwicks says

point out the statistically likelihood of getting tetanus.

The thing about this disease is, it's low-likelihood, but uncurable once contracted, and a slow, miserable, dramatic death is near certain. This is a jab whose risk/benefit I wholeheartedly embrace.

10% mortality rate, quite painful, is treatable with multiple methods once symptoms are presented.

I'd be curious what the mortality rate of Americans are once symptoms are presented. I bet it's been 0 since 1960.

I've lost count of how many times I've cut myself. I used to bike a lot, and I mean A LOT, I have scars from road rash. I should have gotten a tetanus shot each time according to a "medical professional". Go home, take a shower, scrub it down with soap and water to remove all the grit, then ...

Yep, also the shots last a long time, about 20-30 years. They "begin to decrease" after 10 years but likely give enough protection for 20-30 years. Of course to err on the side of caution and make a bit more money the recommendation is every 10-15 years. But yeah I'd take a tetanus shot over that mrna crap anytime. Tetanus, polio, diphtheria, tuberculosis all useful vaccines.

Karloff says

Are you sure you're not thinking of rabies?

I apparently was and appreciate the correction above.

mell says

Yep, also the shots last a long time, about 20-30 years.

I've always heard 5 years. I've gotten a tet booster about every 5-7 years of my adult life because of my risk factor. Never fuss over superficial wounds. The worst infections I've gotten were from getting bitten or deeply scratched by feral cats I was taming. The "rusty nail" tetanus danger has nothing to do with the nail or the rust, it's a bacterium that can invade any breach of the skin.

Not paranoid:
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-begins-study-mrna-flu-vaccine-2021-09-27/

WineHorror1 says

I cut off part of my thumb this past weekend while slicing veggies with a mandolin.

Either you were not paying attention or you tried to cut down the very small piece at the end. Either is a no no with a mandolin...But on the bright side, I bet it won't happen to you again.

Automan Empire says

Karloff says

Are you sure you're not thinking of rabies?

I apparently was and appreciate the correction above.

mell says

Yep, also the shots last a long time, about 20-30 years.

I've always heard 5 years. I've gotten a tet booster about every 5-7 years of my adult life because of my risk factor. Never fuss over superficial wounds. The worst infections I've gotten were from getting bitten or deeply scratched by feral cats I was taming. The "rusty nail" tetanus danger has nothing to do with the nail or the rust, it's a bacterium that can invade any breach of the skin.

I assume that for both you can get the vaccine right after exposure for sufficient protection. The rabies vaccine fades much quicker and I don't know anybody who gets a rabies shot every 2 years unless they work with (wild) animals. I have no problems with boosters for old fashioned vaccines that made and make sense, but - similar to the dentist who wants to take a panorama xray each year (= $$) but really only needs to/should do it every 2-5 years - the boosters are given probably at protection half-life or earlier. And at some point people do have to worry about getting too many shots, shingles, hpv and whatnot, you're not supposed to be jabbed every couple of months as each jab is a small trauma for the immune system and may cause innate changes.

WineHorror1 says

But how could I prove it

Antibody test.

mich says

tetanus shot is not instant protection. antibodies can take weeks to develop.

pretty good~

That's true but it may create enough in a short period of time as Tetanus may infect an open wound at a later stage and not right away. Also I agree the combo-only stuff is stupid and should not be done that way as default but as a choice, but at least all old fashioned vaccines simply contain dead/weakened strains of the virus/bacteria in question and should not really add any damage. Consider you want to maintain up to date protection for all 3 illnesses, then you would have to get 3 shots with 3 times the adjuvants for it which is not that great either.

4 yes old given death jab instead of flu shot:
https://archive.ph/BhaED

I called the Urgent Care and looked at my records...both confirm I was given a tetanus shot.