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Many try as hard as they can to operate exclusively through agents, lawyers, facades, foundations, trusts, cascades of corporate shells and puppets etc etc. A lot of the so-called billionaires are just puppets to perform executive heinousness for those even higher on the food chain of money and control.

Soros never was a 'self made' man like they flog. He was handed his currency exchange profits, and he is just an intelligence storefront for the City of London and MI6 et alia to do their hatchet jobs.

There are, of course, others, like Epstein, the most un-billionaire reputed billionaire ever. They like to bask in the patina of being a 'billionaire', which of course attracts endless pussy, hangers-on, and opens the doors to other wealthy as well as corridors of influence.

My ex-in-laws family have the saying, along with a lot of the wealthy, 'the whale that never surfaces never gets harpooned'. The harpoons are for the puppets and useful idiots.

I remember Armand Hammer, a medical doctor who became an important go between for Russia and USA during Cold War. They always said he was incredibly wealthy to the tune of over 500 million dollars. When he died and his estate settled, his worth was less than 50 million. A lot of money, but no 'billionaire'. The high worth thing was just baloney to make him seem more impressive, a publicity stunt.

Several of the billionaire front men could be divested rather quickly and imprisoned if they displease their true bosses.

Ceffer says

They like to bask in the patina of being a 'billionaire', which of course attracts endless pussy, hangers-on, and opens the doors to other wealthy.

That sure does sound like a president we know. Is Trump different?

From the annals of 'more will be revealed', of anointed billionaires, more than a few commentators say the Facebook from its inception was a DARPA project. ZuckFuck was handed the project because he is 'of the families', a lot like Bill Gates was handed the Microsoft thing because he is 'of the families'.

i always wondered, because colleges were crawling with bulletin boards. Also, it does not matter how precocious or smart you are, when you are in your first few years of college, you are pretty callow and unexperienced. Launching something like Facebook or Microsoft was something more than luck. The intelligence agencies could have been behind the media giants from the start when they realized the significance of a medium that could make people spy on themselves if perfused with the propaganda of altruistic baloney handles. Of course, who would they pick to anoint? Some kid from nowheresville and nobodysville? The intel agencies WANT them to be monopolies.

My nephews and his friends had a marketing startup. It made some money, but it was mostly about them getting together, touring, and having fun. I think he cleared 70K or so when it was sold.

There was that one picture from Silicon Valley where Obama was having lunch with virtually all of the big shots from tech. He looked like he owned them, and probably he did because he was an intelligence agency Manchurian himself.

Ceffer says

Many try as hard as they can to operate exclusively through agents, lawyers, facades, foundations, trusts, cascades of corporate shells and puppets etc etc. A lot of the so-called billionaires are just puppets to perform executive heinousness for those even higher on the food chain of money and control.

It has always seemed suspicious to me that the Rothschilds, and other families like maybe the Schiffs, who were there at the start of the Bank of England, the effective beginning of the Skim Scams that continue today, are mostly absent from lists of Richest in the World. I think they may have perfected anonymous ownership mechanisms, with deep government and media complicity.

Patrick says

You know, if I were super-rich and super-smart, the first and most important task would be to hide my identity from the public.

Could there be billionaires we've never heard of, because they managed to keep that much wealth hidden?

And could they exert an influence on US politics without being well-known?

I know it reeks of conspiracy theory, but it seems like anonymity is valuable if you want to be an evil mastermind.

From the public...100% yes. From everyone all the way up and past the Vatican...I doubt it. Wherever there are assets/$$, there is some way to keep an accounting of it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Vatican is the most high and secret/secure place for TPTB to hide their identities and wealth.

Ceffer says

I remember Armand Hammer

Surely that wasn't his birth name..

Karloff says

Surely that wasn't his birth name..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Hammer

"Hammer originally said that his father had named him after a character, Armand Duval, in La Dame aux Camélias, a novel by Alexandre Dumas, fils. According to other sources, it was later said that Hammer was named after the "arm and hammer" graphic symbol of the Socialist Labor Party of America (SLP), in which his father had a leadership role. (After the Russian Revolution, a part of the SLP under Julius's leadership split off to become a founding element of the Communist Party USA.) Late in his life, Hammer confirmed that this was indeed the origin of his given name."

He's got that record collector I remember 1925 look, but he spent some of the 20's in Russia where the 20's didn't roar very much. Just imagine being 59 in 1957, that's getting into Frederic March territory!

WineHorror1 says

I wouldn't be surprised if the Vatican is the most high and secret/secure place for TPTB to hide their identities and wealth.

I think the Catholic Church is still the wealthiest organization on earth. Not totally sure though.

A high school teacher once told me that the church owned 90% of the land in Vietnam before the war there.

Supposedly when Trump was still Pres. they had those blackouts across the world in Pakistan, City of London, the Vatican, and Ottawa, the USA helped itself to a few treasure troves. Don't know if it is apocryphal, but the Vatican has always had a reputation for extensive tunnel networks full of treasures plundered over the centuries. Since Emperor Constantine, almost the sole purpose of the Church franchise has been the acquisition of wealth by hook, crook or manipulated faith doctrines. I even heard about the treasure troves when I was a kid in parochial school.

The Vatican was blacked out for a couple of weeks. I checked it a couple of time a week when it was blinked out. When it first blacked out, there were gunshots and startled birds flapping away, it was on You Tube. Apparently, when the Vatican's role in the election fraud came to light, along with the Italian politicians, Rome embassy, CIA, Leonardo satellites etc., the behind the scenes settlements allowed the US military to scoop up as much Vatican wealth as they could in reparations, and they took dozens of military transports full amounting to trillions of dollars. Apparently, it was enough to establish a new commodities based currency rather than fiat money. Something similar was supposed to have happened in City of London. The Pakistan blackout was about stopping the Dem traitors and whores and Clinton Foundation from selling American military technology directly to CCP mediated by Pakistan. I don't know what they were up to in Ottawa, but I imagine they must have gotten some gold or something up there.

It's probably why the military can flip off Biden with Trump behind the scenes. They have their own 'treasury' now of recovered wealth. Maybe it is why Trump is so blase about the whole election thing, because they took back a lot of the wealth that has been drained off from our country. Trump did that thing where he committed the atrocity of walking in front of The Queen, which he did on purpose to show that there was a new sheriff in USA.

Ever since the 1871 'Corporation of US" was established, City of London and Vatican have been draining off the assets and tax revenues of our country through the foreign city state of Washington DC. Fort Knox has been empty for a while. During 9/11, gold reserves in vaults under NYC were also siphoned off somewhere.

Even so, the Church still has so much wealth on tap, it hasn't really affected them. They just have that much in the way of hoarded, stale assets.

Of course, they are all mad as hornets and it is why the Intel humps and their real constituencies have been after Trump. Trump also folded the Federal Reserve system back into the Treasury. Apparently, many Federal Reserve branches have stood empty ever since. No more international bankers setting American monetary policy from abroad.