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Another plus for manufactured homes is that once you have chosen your options, placed your order, arranged your financing and have your lot, they are put in very quickly and with maximum efficiency. You already have your stuff, so no contractors to tear stuff up half way then hold you hostage over and over.

Ceffer says

Another plus for manufactured homes is that once you have chosen your options, placed your order, arranged your financing and have your lot, they are put in very quickly and with maximum efficiency. You already have your stuff, so no contractors to tear stuff up half way then hold you hostage over and over.

Yep. And anchoring that shit in a concrete pad makes it pretty tough. They've apparently gotten better over the years. Also, you can just choose your flooring and other accessories once and be done. No dealing with upteen contractors, they do it all from fabrication to installation to delivery to anchoring it on the pad/foundation.

Steel Buildings have come a long way since Quonset Huts, too.

Plus, you're fucking over realwhores and developers by minimalizing their cut in the whole process. Lots of land is sold and financed by various companies without a Realtor being involved at all (in Florida, at least).

Patrick says

I was just looking at Texas real estate and the tax rate seems to be about 2.3%, though maybe that varies by county and city.

Seems pretty high to me, but then, there's no state income tax.

Depends on a county, I'd say 1.5 to 2.5% Catch though is that property prices are relatively low, so even if % tax is high, you end up paying much less than in CA or NJ.

clambo says

What's the difference in Texas between a divorce and a tornado?
None; either way you lose the trailer.

How is redneck different from everyone else? His house is on wheels, but car on cinder blocks.

What do you call a 350 pound woman in a trailer park? A tornado anchor.

It appears county enforcement and police are targeting people who attempt to subvert American mortgage slavery by purchasing the land and putting a trailer on it

They are threatening to charge endless fines with eventual repossession to pay those fines - to force land owners to remove trailers from their own property This is yet another example, in my humble opinion, of how you don't really "own" your property in America anymore.

A neighbor down the street spent $150,000 to buy a heavily wooded beach lot near my parents house in Florida several years ago. Even then for $150k it was "cheap". I know he didn't want to mortgage 500k-1Ml for a house. So he bought a nice trailer and cleared a super narrow driveway with a circle in the middle of the lot to hide his trailer. You could not really see his trailer from the road. Only a narrow driveway. I don't know how he got septic, water and electricity installed, or was "off the grid" but in any case one of the neighbors - a rich white women from upstate New York - reported him demanding it be removed. She said it was unsightly and was bringing down the value of her property. The bitch lived a mile down the road.He was forced to remove his trailer. The lot is for sale now.

These new homeowners from New York and California - all white - are flooding into my hometown in Florida and ruining it. They decry the lack of diversity compared to the place they moved away from - yet these hypocrites chose to move to one of the whitest cities in Florida.

They are now in the process of slowly turning my hometown into the place they ran away from.

Firstly - they were responsible for installing parking meters because they were upset the beach parking lots were first come first serve. The town depends on tourism and was known for its free parking. Now you have to pay to park between certain hours. They opposed a local hotel that provides more business for my hometown. They want to make certain public beaches private. They are responsible for a ban on beach vacation rentals on south beach end. There are rumors they want to limit driving on the beach. In other words they move to the town - say how nice it is - then proceed to ruin it.

These people are primarily older, very controlling, white - primarily from New York State fleeing COVID. They are driving Real Estate prices through the roof. Flipping houses buying up everything in sight. These people belong in Condo HOA meetings every week bickering about nonsense. They clog up the city council meetings. Money and idleness are not a good combination. It's only a matter of time before they push to section off the south end of the beach and push a closed vote to turn it into a HOA community.

I can't believe that women kicked that man out of his house. The county showed up with a 30 day letter demanding this man remove his trailer. He was forced to remove it at his expense. This is America now I guess .How dare he put a trailer on his own property to avoid rent and mortgage payments.

Michael Cooke says

They are now in the process of slowly turning my hometown into the place they ran away from.

This is happening to many unspoiled Red areas across the country.

Michael Cooke says

They are now in the process of slowly turning my hometown into the place they ran away from.

I am one of the ones trying to flee California, but at least I can boast that nearly every single item on every single ballot goes opposite of my vote. From here, those $1MM and $2MM houses look mighty nice... and cheap! No danger of me ruining Florida (other than driving prices and tax revenue up).

I'm an avid sailor, so looking at places in Cape Coral. Could someone tell me what they think of this place? https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5328-Coral-Ave-Cape-Coral-FL-33904/45436794_zpid/

I'm thinking the benefits are: nearly new with all the nice amenities that entails, more than large enough, direct sailboat access to the world. The profits from my shack in Sunnyvale, even after the real-estate cartel and the government, will pay for the thing outright.

SunnyvaleCA says

Michael Cooke says

They are now in the process of slowly turning my hometown into the place they ran away from.

I am one of the ones trying to flee California, but at least I can boast that nearly every single item on every single ballot goes opposite of my vote. From here, those $1MM and $2MM houses look mighty nice... and cheap! No danger of me ruining Florida (other than driving prices and tax revenue up).

I'm an avid sailor, so looking at places in Cape Coral. Could someone tell me what they think of this place? https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5328-Coral-Ave-Cape-Coral-FL-33904/45436794_zpid/

I'm thinking the benefits are: nearly new with all the nice amenities that entails, more than large enough, direct sailboat access to the world. The profits ...

That's the exact area where I took walks with my Grandpa until age 24. He owned a house on the canal. I'm not the best person for an opinion because I'm biased obviously. Grandpa purchased his house for $30,000. After he passed in 2005 Grandma sold it for over $800,000.00 and the guy who mortgaged it could not afford the property taxes. All the houses have canals with concrete siding. Be careful when your at the back edge of your yard . ha ha. You fall in there you have to swim to the dock to get out ha ha. You can fish off your canal but all you catch is Catfish. You will get a bite in 60 seconds or less. But it's always a Catfish. Ha ha.


There used to be a Yacht club bar down the street where all the boaters would get together. You can keep a sailboat on your canal and take it out the Gulf. But if you had to ask me if it was worth over 1 Mil to live there... honestly I would say no. That's an insane price and I can't imagine those houses appreciating simply because they are on the canal. Most of those houses were 1 level houses or with vaulted ceilings. Everyone has nice driveways. It feels "tropical". I haven't been there since 2006.

There was a man down the street who lived with his parents his entire life and nobody knew. When his parents died he had this awesome house on a canal but could not take care of himself and the rats started filling up the house. Neighbors called the police because of the stench. They carted him off to the nut house. The state took away his house and sold it. He got nothing. I always wondered who got that house because it was one of those house of horrors you see on the news yet it was the "biggest" one.

Other than that it was a peaceful area. Nice neighbors. It had a very flat yet peaceful feel to the place.

If your into Sailing it's ideal. No slip fees. But I remember them complaining because the had a canal tax or something. You would have to check that out yourself IDK if its included with the property taxes. There is no way I would pay over 1 million for it. Even if I could afford to. I was blown away my Grandma got $800,000.00 for a $30,000.00 house. Cannot imagine it being 1-2 million in that area now. Crazy. Honestly I would not pay 1 million plus to live there. We had relatives on a place nearby called Sanibel Island. That is where I would live for 1-2 million. Not Cape Coral. My Aunt sold an amazing house there for 400k back in the day and watched it skyrocket to over 1 million during the 2006 bubble. They had a bridge there where you had some kind of bridge pass. Or you had to pay money or something. I know they were talking about a HOA when my aunt sold her house there. Not sure if they have a HOA there now. But for 1-2 M I would look at Sanibel Island. That place was sweet.


















Last time I was there

Michael Cooke says

It appears county enforcement and police are targeting people who attempt to subvert American mortgage slavery by purchasing the land and putting a trailer on it

I'm developing the opinion that the West Coast is more buttinsky than the East Coast, esp around Tampa. Yeah South Florida is regulated, but most dense places are. Well off Minnesotans, the NPR Subscriber kind, are the absolute worst for Buttinskyism though. Sticking their nose in windows like Grumpy Old Men, particularly the Well Off Bureaucrat/Teacher kind. Not that snobby NY'er Karens are that much better.

Best bets for people to MYOB are the North and East Central parts of the Coast, and the Panhandle. It's more honky. Worst for nosey neighbors and regulators is Hillsborough and Miami-Dade, esp around the snobby parts. Broward throws the book in Fort Lauderdale and other NY Rich heavy areas, but of course lets the Negroes and Hispanics mostly be in the Western part of the county (but don't bank on it).

Never, ever drive in Aventura, esp around that mall - absolute worst drivers. Lots of NYC Drivers, + the advanced age and entitlement factor. Only Storrow Drive in Boston comes close. Also very bad is Sunny Isles - Mix of Russian Mafiosos who can't drive for shit, and Elderly Jews who can't see for shit.

Of course, the real culprits are Realwhores and Developers. Some guy said "You can't live in an RV while building. Rvs are for a campground." I said "Like Daniel Boone had to stay in the campground and build his log cabin down the road?" So Unamerican.

Sheriff of Brevard County responds to Trevor Noah, announces weekly anthem event in perpetuity for the Brevard Sheriff Office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKhj5BjAqYg

Michael Cooke says

I was blown away my Grandma got $800,000.00 for a $30,000.00 house. Cannot imagine it being 1-2 million in that area now. Crazy. Honestly I would not pay 1 million plus to live there. We had relatives on a place nearby called Sanibel Island. That is where I would live for 1-2 million. Not Cape Coral.

Thanks for so much thoughtful info. Yeah, Sanibel Island is nice. The key distinction with Cape Coral is being directly on the "river" (best), within short distance to the river with no bridges in the way (OK), merely on one of the canals with a long ride to get out and no hope with a sailboat mast (no thanks), and, finally, not even on the canal (at which point the land value is practically zero).

I don't know about the house you reference above, but in my area 60-year-old houses originally costing $26k are going for about $2MM now. The attraction is being walking or biking distance to Apple's Spaceship and Infinite Loop campuses. I pulled the plug just last week (yup I finally did it!) and so I could walk there but they won't let me in the door any more!

SunnyvaleCA says

Could someone tell me what they think of this place?

It seems similar to what my buddy just bought in Saint Petersburg just North of that but he paid 2.3M. His is bigger, the former owner apparently raised the foundation and 'drilled down and attached it to bedrock'.

He said he's going to 'flip yachts', in his back yard haha..

HeadSet says

Michael Cooke says

They are now in the process of slowly turning my hometown into the place they ran away from.

This is happening to many unspoiled Red areas across the country.

A possible upside:

If the liberal idiots move to a majority red state, they probably won't have the numbers to change, say, the electoral college votes.

But they will be draining liberal votes from their own states.

So you can be roottiest tootiest heehawing Gun toting Jesus preaching redneck insurrection deplorable who votes for America and freedom maga!!!

Patrick says

A possible upside:

If the liberal idiots move to a majority red state, they probably won't have the numbers to change, say, the electoral college votes.

But they will be draining liberal votes from their own states.

Yes, they will have the numbers to change local and statewide elections. Example - Virginia and Georgia. Next, North Carolina.

And they will not be effectively draining liberal votes away from the blue states. Those states have plenty of blue in reserve, and import more every day if the form of illegals.

It is like having a metastasized cancer. Having liver cancer does not mean your lung cancer has gone into remission.

The new neighbor is complaining people shouldn't be allowed to keep sailboats in driveways. It belongs tied to the dock, why does he have a dock and park it outside, it could slide off, its could hurt someone, it doesn't look right. it's normal to see sailboats in driveways. It is part of the scenery. You also see Jet-skis and Kayaks in the yard. I wish I was there to ask him if he noticed this before he moved here and why he is complaining about it. It starts with complaining, moves to city hall, and ends up becoming a city or county regulation.

Dammit they just keep coming to Florida. First they banned vacation rentals - now this. These people have money and way too much time on their hands.

Patrick says

HeadSet says

Michael Cooke says

They are now in the process of slowly turning my hometown into the place they ran away from.

This is happening to many unspoiled Red areas across the country.

A possible upside:

If the liberal idiots move to a majority red state, they probably won't have the numbers to change, say, the electoral college votes.

But they will be draining liberal votes from their own states.

In Florida they are primarily coming from New York and California. In the past it was not uncommon to see New York license plates; uncommon to see a California license plate. Now they are everywhere.

HeadSet says

Yes, they will have the numbers to change local and statewide elections. Example - Virginia and Georgia. Next, North Carolina.

Wisconsin is another one. The border towns still within driving range of Chicago are absolutely booming. Most are moving because they can't stand the high taxes of IL. I'd say it's a 50/50 split of R's and D's moving out, but it's skewing the overall ratio in WI to D's and really makes no impact on IL since it's so blue. At least Cook county.

So Wisconsin has been kind of purple, but I think it may swing to the consistent blue column over the next decade due to limousine liberals moving up there from IL. Madison and Milwaukee also have a lot of blue power too. Most of the state is redneck red though. And most the state is rural. There's just not enough of them to counter 200 home subdivisions at the border being filled with blue voters.

Sad really. Basically 2 WI cities dictate national elections and state wide elections. Cities are ass hoes.

Patrick says

But they will be draining liberal votes from their own states.

Find me an example of this, because I'm stumped. Have yet to see a blue state flip red due to out migration.

zzyzzx says

Patrick says

But they will be draining liberal votes from their own states.

Find me an example of this, because I'm stumped. Have yet to see a blue state flip red due to out migration.

I can't think of one. IL is not going red anytime soon, but they're heading into Wisconsin in droves and IL will stay blue because Chicago's large black and hispanic population. Much of the hispanic population is illegal as well.

I worked in housing for about 13 or so years and I'd guess that 80-90% of all hispanic laborers were all illegal. Might not be as high now as some younger guys born here from an illegal, might actually be naturalized citizens having been born here. ICE could walk up to any Chicago construction site and for sure hit 50% of Mexicans as illegal. No one wants to do anything about it. Chicago also has a huge Puerto Rican population (Humbolt Park) and you have to be careful accusing a light brown person of being a citizen or illegal as people from PR are citizens.

2nd biggest retail corridor in Chicago is Little Village on the Southwest side. 26th St is 2nd to the Magnificent mile (Michigan Ave) as far as retail goes. 90%+ hispanic Mexican and likely 1/4-1/2 illegal. That's why Chicago allows it. Huge revenue generator so they turn a blind eye to it. All about money and politics.

Nothing worse than being a Florida obstetrician giving birth to babies covered with swamp dirt clods: