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thenuttyneutron says

Would a pump action AR-15 be legal in California?

Yes, but what's the point? Just convert your regular AR-15 into "featureless" and keep it as semi-auto.

Patrick says

Yes, guns are good for telling liberals that you will not be beaten up for speaking the truth.

A couple of shots into the air should do it.

@Patrick

Never pull out that gun unless you need to use it to prevent bodily injury or death to you.

By shooting in the air, you are putting your life at risk because you don’t know who is in the crowd and what firearm(s) they have on them.

If you fire your weapon, the next sequence can get very unpredictable.

Thanks, you are right.

Good news! Gun shop called to say they have one Glock19 in stock that they are holding for me. Appointment made, woot!

BayArea says

If you fire your weapon, the next sequence can get very unpredictable.

Yeah, even in a home invasion situation being Rambo is how you get killed / kill the wrong people. If possible, block off your little area where you know the angles. Yell out that you'll blow their head off. Get your wife to call 911 while you cover and stay in place to wait. Kids rooms being separate can complicate things but try to move that into the same plan.

99% of the time they will leave and you won't even need it.

Those cheap alarms people recommend are great. I have basically the same thing from HomeDepot for ~$20. Doubles as a motion sensing night lights when the parents are visiting (turn the alarm part off) so they don't get hurt wandering around my place at night.

BayArea says

Glock19 in stock that they are holding for me.

They must have tiny hands!

Just kidding BayArea I couldn't help myself. I still do think long run you'd like the 17 better. My hands aren't all that big. None of my business, personal choice. It was a perfect setup though! haha

Ha!

The G17 is more comfortable to shoot, no question.

Just like the size of the G19. And with the slight extended magazine, pinky wraps around just fine.

Or maybe just fucking move out of blue states:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/11/police-seize-gun-from-st-louis-couple-threatened-by-mob-violence/

Seize for what??

HeadSet says

I qualified expert pistol at 17 during Plebe summer at Navy.

You are a Canoe U grad? You have my condolences. Anyway, the first Air Force side arm I qualified on was a .38 S&W revolver. Jesse James era tech for a modern military.

Yup. For the pampered and spoiled pets of Uncle Sam.

Know in California, the cops are instructed to ask leading questions in order to blame the victim whenever possible:

Did you SEE the perp's weapon?
Why didn't YOU run away?
Why couldn't YOU run to your second floor bedroom and lock the door?

Make sure you get your story straight before you call 911 and call your lawyer first.

Otherwise, poor Jamal, who was getting his life straight at 22 after an armed robbery and several robberies that are sealed due to being from adolescence, was just confused and thought he was visiting Grandma Jemima to deliver her Christmas Present 4 months early on the second floor of your house when your White/Asian/Jew/"White Hispanic" Cuban Ass took his life in Fascist Supremacy

Kenji says

Glocks are unreliable.

Really?

Kenji says

If you're serious about self-defense, get a revolver. Glocks are unreliable.

Don't listen to this advice. There is a reason glocks are used by most LEOs. All my military friends carry glock or sig. They say glocks are the most reliable handgun on the planet.

Glocks have their faults but they usually go bang.
A revolver is the essence of reliable by its design.
I would trust a Glock to fire when I pull the trigger.

NoCoupForYou says

Why couldn't YOU run to your second floor bedroom and lock the door?

In CA you 'get a small dog'. Then you register it as an emotional support animal.

Then when someone breaks in you shoot the fuck out them and keep shooting them until they are not recognizable.

When interviewed you say: He kicked my dog.

The registered support animal dog is as good as your kid here.

Not that I would personally do this. I just have a fish.

joshuatrio says

most reliable handgun on the planet.

You can drag em through the mud and they'll still fire just fine. I like revolvers too though. More sex appeal.

So when I was taking a crap earlier today I was dreaming about life after I move out of CA.

I was imagining myself in a nice car backing into my garage and closing the door. Then locking the door to my house when I went through the garage entry.

It's not too difficult to open someones automatic garage door and I thought what fun it would be to mount a controllable machine BB gun on the wall with a camera and speaker. If I catch someone in my garage I could light their ass up with BBs and say over the intercom: The other side of the door has REAL big bullets!

A guy can have dreams, right?

Not going to read through 125 posts, but what purpose will you be using this gun for?

If you don't plan on using it a whole bunch and just want to have a pistol 'just in case' I'd recommend a revolver, they are very reliable and don't need to be cleaned much at all.

BayArea says

Good news! Gun shop called to say they have one Glock19 in stock that they are holding for me. Appointment made, woot!

Nice. I am still waiting for my call. They told me it will be "August something".

Keep us posted.

I'm looking at purchasing a cabinet full of AR-15s.

Tenpoundbass says

I'm looking at purchasing a cabinet full of AR-15s.

Do ya really need more than one with a couple of large banana clips taped together? Or are you starting a small militia?

Barrels get hot.

Tenpoundbass says

I'm looking at purchasing a cabinet full of AR-15s.

Buy some Magpul D60 magaznines. You can stuff 60 rounds in each and store them long term without weakening the springs. These are also the ONLY AR-15 drum magazines that I have found to work reliably. Stay away from Pmag and Beta C.

thenuttyneutron says

Tenpoundbass says

I'm looking at purchasing a cabinet full of AR-15s.

Buy some Magpul D60 magaznines. You can stuff 60 rounds in each and store them long term without weakening the springs. These are also the ONLY AR-15 drum magazines that I have found to work reliably. Stay away from Pmag and Beta C.

I don't like mags over 20rd - they interfere when shooting from the prone position.

BayArea says

Good news! Gun shop called to say they have one Glock19 in stock that they are holding for me. Appointment made, woot!

Any updates on this?

Are there any delays with the background checks?

FuckCCP89 says

thenuttyneutron says

Tenpoundbass says

I'm looking at purchasing a cabinet full of AR-15s.

Buy some Magpul D60 magaznines. You can stuff 60 rounds in each and store them long term without weakening the springs. These are also the ONLY AR-15 drum magazines that I have found to work reliably. Stay away from Pmag and Beta C.

I don't like mags over 20rd - they interfere when shooting from the prone position.

Not the D60. They hang down below rifle about same as 20 rounder.

socal2 says

BayArea says

Good news! Gun shop called to say they have one Glock19 in stock that they are holding for me. Appointment made, woot!

Any updates on this?

Are there any delays with the background checks?

Yes, appointment tomorrow. Glad to report back then.

just_adhom_preaching says

In CA you 'get a small dog'. Then you register it as an emotional support animal.

Excellent idea.

I wish it were mine to take credit. Guy working at a gun store told me. Although you maybe have to say, "I feared for my life!" AND "He kicked my dog!". I mostly remember the dog part.

BayArea says

Yes, appointment tomorrow. Glad to report back then.

Anything to report?

Onvacation says

Do ya really need more than one with a couple of large banana clips taped together? Or are you starting a small militia?

When the shit hits the fan, you enlist your neighbors to come over and knock arrow slits in your walls, to keep watch on your six and nine.

socal2 says

BayArea says

Yes, appointment tomorrow. Glad to report back then.

Anything to report?

Yes, I was told to expect the background check to take 2x as long as usual... so expecting 20days or so.

If anyone ever tells you it’s easy to get a gun in CA, challenge them. So far it’s been a mega hassle. But that’s ok, I’m in no rush and in the end will have a legally purchased firearm.

BayArea says

Patrick says

Yes, guns are good for telling liberals that you will not be beaten up for speaking the truth.

A couple of shots into the air should do it.

@Patrick

Never pull out that gun unless you need to use it to prevent bodily injury or death to you.

By shooting in the air, you are putting your life at risk because you don’t know who is in the crowd and what firearm(s) they have on them.

If you fire your weapon, the next sequence can get very unpredictable.

Additionally, you could be charged with "negligent discharge" — an illegal act. The workaround here is to claim you were aiming to kill the person because you feared for your life, but you just happened to have very poor accuracy.

BayArea says

If anyone ever tells you it’s easy to get a gun in CA, challenge them. So far it’s been a mega hassle. But that’s ok, I’m in no rush and in the end will have a legally purchased firearm.

The left's ever-increasing hassles put on purchasing guns is causing some people to buy guns because they know if they ever need one in the future, they won't be able to get one in time.

And, for the record, the "mega hassle" is not OK for another reason too: Gun owners are presumably kept in an enormous government registry so that the future enforcers can go door to door demanding you turn over your guns. "I lost it in a fishing accident" won't cut it; off to the gulag!

California law requires individuals to report the loss or theft of a firearm to local law enforcement in the jurisdiction where the loss or theft occurred within five days of the time they discovered or reasonably should have discovered the loss or theft.

BayArea says

California law requires individuals to report the loss or theft of a firearm to local law enforcement in the jurisdiction where the loss or theft occurred within five days of the time they discovered or reasonably should have discovered the loss or theft.

Mine were lost in boating accident before that law was even voted on. :p

SunnyvaleCA says

"I lost it in a fishing accident" won't cut it; off to the gulag!

That's why I'm planning to GTFO of CA pretty much immediately if SHTF. All of my family have left already anyway. At least the smart ones.

Are air rifles legal and unregulated?
You can get 50 cal air rifles (made in USA) and I would think that you could shoot them in your back yard.

zzyzzx says

Are air rifles legal and unregulated?
You can get 50 cal air rifles (made in USA) and I would think that you could shoot them in your back yard.

There are ordinances against shooting air rifles within residential areas in some cities/counties. It's not a problem with small caliber air rifles because they tend to be fairly quiet (I shoot one in my backyard all the time and my neighbour does too), but 9mm or 50 cal would have a fairly substantial bark methinks.

Eric Holder says

There is ordinance against shooting air rifles within residential areas in some cities/counties. It's not a problem with small caliber air rifles because they tend to be fairly quiet (I shoot one in my backyard all the time and my neighbour does too), but 9mm or 50 cal would have a fairly substantial bark methinks.

In Carlsbad, CA you can shoot air-rifles in your back yard.

I was plinking rabbits all last summer that were coming in under my fence and tearing up my yard.

BayArea says

Yes, I was told to expect the background check to take 2x as long as usual... so expecting 20days or so.

So what was your appointment for? Just to fill out the paperwork for the background check?

My store told me they can't start the check until they have the gun in inventory so they can match up serial numbers.

Did you get to see or handle your gun? Did they have you take the Firearms Safety Certificate test?